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obie7661
07-16-2008, 07:07 AM
STATE OF THE [MASSILLON] SCHOOL DISTRICT: 'Stay the course'
Blosser, two weeks from retirement, still has faith in city’s schools
http://www.indeonline.com/local_news/x518438997/STATE-OF-THE-SCHOOL-DISTRICT-Stay-the-course
TigerCoach
07-16-2008, 07:13 AM
Even though he was only here for a short time, he may be the best Superintendent in the last 30 years. MCS will miss his leadership.
Indiana95
07-16-2008, 10:57 AM
STATE OF THE [MASSILLON] SCHOOL DISTRICT: 'Stay the course'
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"Stay the course?" Is Dubya the new Superintendent....LOL:hyper:
DE#53
07-16-2008, 01:07 PM
Not so sure about him being the best Super in the last 30 years. He's brought to o many "friends" over from Canton which has been a failing school district for the last several years. Did anyone know that the top 4 administrators at Massillon don't even live in our city? How's that look when they want to put a renewal on the ballot in the fall. Not sure how popular that will be when the top brass don't even pay taxes in this town.
TigerCoach
07-16-2008, 02:32 PM
I don't live in the same city where I work either, not even in the same county for that matter. How about you? I don't think that reasoning makes any difference.
austinsm11
07-16-2008, 03:07 PM
I don't live in the same city where I work either, not even in the same county for that matter. How about you? I don't think that reasoning makes any difference.
It is a little different. I doubt you go around asking people who live around your place of employment for money to keep the business going. Even if you did, I don't think that they (neighbors of the business) would be too impressed that they are giving money to keep the business going while the owners or supervisors are getting pay raises.
Many other states actually require the super and other top admin. to live in the district.
Indiana95
07-16-2008, 03:41 PM
I don't live in the same city where I work either, not even in the same county for that matter. How about you? I don't think that reasoning makes any difference.
You probably do not work in public service either. Beyond contributing to the tax base, there is something intangibly important in knowing that public sector employees really "care" about the services they are providing because they also reside in that community. The perception of an "outsider" deciding how to spend tax money for a community in which they do not reside is usually negatively viewed.
Pizaninlaw
07-16-2008, 05:04 PM
I don't live in the same city where I work either, not even in the same county for that matter. How about you? I don't think that reasoning makes any difference.
I think it makes a huge difference. When you live out of the area as an admin (or teacher for that matter):
You don't see students walking to their job at 9:00PM on a school night.
You don't see them researching at the public library for their term paper.
You don't see them trying to sneak into the bar with a fake ID.
You don't see them walking their 3 younger siblings to the park until mom gets home.
You don't see them up to no good on a street corner
There is a lot that you know by living in the district. Being out of the area allows you to make reality go away until Monday morning.
Example:
You may label a kid as a stoner because he/she misses a lot of school and sleeps when he/she is there.
However, if you lived in the area and happened to see him starting the graveyard shift at the burger joint on Tuesday night, you may find out that this kid HAS to work to help his/her family. This explains the sleeping/missing school. A local person would approach this situation very differently than a commuter. This may sound dramatic, but situations like this happen all of the time in this town.
TigerCoach
07-17-2008, 10:15 AM
I think it makes a huge difference. When you live out of the area as an admin (or teacher for that matter):
You don't see students walking to their job at 9:00PM on a school night.
You don't see them researching at the public library for their term paper.
You don't see them trying to sneak into the bar with a fake ID.
You don't see them walking their 3 younger siblings to the park until mom gets home.
You don't see them up to no good on a street corner
There is a lot that you know by living in the district. Being out of the area allows you to make reality go away until Monday morning.
Example:
You may label a kid as a stoner because he/she misses a lot of school and sleeps when he/she is there.
However, if you lived in the area and happened to see him starting the graveyard shift at the burger joint on Tuesday night, you may find out that this kid HAS to work to help his/her family. This explains the sleeping/missing school. A local person would approach this situation very differently than a commuter. This may sound dramatic, but situations like this happen all of the time in this town.
I respectfully disagree. I doubt many teachers that do live in Massillon ever see these things either. There may be exceptions to that, but for the most part, how does that affect the overall operation of the school district? It doesn't.
By the way, Indiana, I do serve many public people from many geographic locations. I also work for a foreign company here in the Stark County area. I have never been turned down for business because I work for a foreign company and/or live personally in a different county.
austinsm11
07-17-2008, 10:49 AM
I respectfully disagree. I doubt many teachers that do live in Massillon ever see these things either.
Have to agree with TC on this. Teachers in the district don't see much of it because they are at home and in bed when many of these things happen. They can still find out much (not all) of these types of things, however, through other students, parents, teachers, guidance counselors, etc. regardless of where they live.
Pizaninlaw
07-17-2008, 11:33 AM
I have many teacher friends that tell me weekly of things that they see their students doing. I've seen former teachers talk to dropouts working a dead end job (or no job at all) and GIVE them their number to call them to help them get their GED....many times I have seen this. I have seen rough looking kids that anyone else would be afraid to even look at stop and say Hi to a teacher out at the park with his three kids in tow.
This goes both ways too. If a troubled student sees a teacher out with their family and they stop to talk about how their summer is going, they see that teacher as a person with a real life, not just the jerk teacher that is always on their case. They are more of a role model. The school as a whole becomes more community oriented.
I stand by my opinion that admin and teachers should be in the area. I do not think that it should be mandatory, but I would hire a local person before an out-of-towner in a heartbeat if the qualifications were close. All I am saying is that teachers can be a better role model if they teach in the town that they live in.
Red50Go
07-17-2008, 01:02 PM
There are always exceptions but as a general rule I would MUCH rather hedge my bets on someone who lives in the community and sends their kids to where he/she works. Apples & oranges to compare our schools to the business sector.
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