Embarrassing ordeal reveals ugly truths about U-M's Rich Rodriguez

[obie7661]

...He can charm the media, which is nice. But those who have attended his practices say Rodriguez’s staff uses some of the foulest, most degrading language imaginable. I know coaches curse, and I’m no prude, but this goes way beyond a few dirty words. He belittles his players. This is a big part of why offensive lineman (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080715/SPORTS06/307150017/1048/SPORTS#) Justin Boren left the team. He felt his dignity was at stake....

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080715/SPORTS06/307150017/1048/SPORTS

[Tiger 1]

I'm not sold on Rodriquez yet. I just find it odd that 1 player out of around 80said the "family values" were eroding at michigan. Why haven't the other players said the same thing?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

I saw and read that article. People need to leave Rich Rodriguez alone, especially his alma mater (West Virginia). This kind of arrogant, senseless, scary, freakish, awfukl, corrupt, embittered, dumb behavior is unacceptable! I have never known any other alma mater that have treated one of their own badly but West Virginia has taken that to the next level.

Most of these fans need to quit being horny (callous) and let Rodriguez get on with his life instead of attacking his family.

If Rodriguez was a native of Detroit and I was close to him, my name would be on a mugshot right about now :evil:! That's the truth! Quote me on that!

[austinsm11]

I saw and read that article. People need to leave Rich Rodriguez alone, especially his alma mater (West Virginia). This kind of arrogant, senseless, scary, freakish, awfukl, corrupt, embittered, dumb behavior is unacceptable! I have never known any other alma mater that have treated one of their own badly but West Virginia has taken that to the next level.

Most of these fans need to quit being horny (callous) and let Rodriguez get on with his life instead of attacking his family.

If Rodriguez was a native of Detroit and I was close to him, my name would be on a mugshot right about now :evil:! That's the truth! Quote me on that!

So you don't think RR should owe the money to WV? Why does he get to get out of the contract that he signed?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

austinsm11,

It should have never come to that. All you need to know is the last 30 words of my last post to tell you how I feel about the treatment that WVU fans have treated Mr. Rodriguez.

[austinsm11]

The article is from a Detroit paper, not WV fans. I completely agree that what SOME of the WV fans did was inappropriate and uncalled for. But what are the WV fans still doing to him?

And why shouldn't RR have had to pay the money back? I still find it interesting that he is complaining that the $4 million buyout was too much, but he has the same thing at Michigan.

[warren1st]

The article is from a Detroit newspaper who strongly are pro-MSU and, for the most part, anti UM. It's very apparent Rosenberg himself has never been to a RichRod practice. His article is all opinion and speculation.

It does amaze me that a "hometown" paper would write things like that! I can just see the Columbus Dispatch ripping any new Ohio State coach. Maybe that is what happens in a state with TWO big time schools.

[austinsm11]

It does amaze me that a "hometown" paper would write things like that! I can just see the Columbus Dispatch ripping any new Ohio State coach. Maybe that is what happens in a state with TWO big time schools.

I know you have metioned other writers who dislike Michigan. Perhaps it is because of MSU, but I can't imagine a writer in Columbus doing what these guys are doing.

[warren1st]

I know you have metioned other writers who dislike Michigan. Perhaps it is because of MSU, but I can't imagine a writer in Columbus doing what these guys are doing.

Most of us in Ohio have no idea of the rivalry and dislike for each other in this backyard rivalry. It's a lot like Massillon-McK.

[monte81]

RR goes about practice very very seriously and UM players currently needed a wake up call. Various coaches curse and dog players but build them up---it works great for the military, why not college football.

I give RR one year and UM will be a top 5 program again. UM is getting the recruits needed to run RR's system and will be a force in the BCS.

From what I heard from Crable, interview with Brylan Edwards, etc,... they love the workouts, conditioning, and practices and think this the boost the program needed!!

[obie7661]

Most of us in Ohio have no idea of the rivalry and dislike for each other in this backyard rivalry. It's a lot like Massillon-McK.

Apparently you never played in a Massillon-McKinley game.

[ReineyKicker15]

Who cares. All that matters is come the last week of the season Ohio State is going to beat Michigan yet again.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

RR goes about practice very very seriously and UM players currently needed a wake up call. Various coaches curse and dog players but build them up---it works great for the military, why not college football.

I give RR one year and UM will be a top 5 program again. UM is getting the recruits needed to run RR's system and will be a force in the BCS.

From what I heard from Crable, interview with Brylan Edwards, etc,... they love the workouts, conditioning, and practices and think this the boost the program needed!!

monte81,

GREAT POST! You couldn't have said that any better!! Coaches do swear and who hasn't!

By the way, with Rodriguez calling the shots, Michigan will not be a tired team like they have in the past against Ohio State the last four years in the second half and you can count on that!

I'm sure you did your share of cussing and dogging others. I can see you now.........

"What the ---- kind of a block is that? Let me tell you something! You will NEVER play on this ---- field with that kind of block! You hear me! Get your --- out of my drift!" Give me another player! Tired of this ----ing around and lally-gagging ----!"

There are five others but I'll mention them later.

[warren1st]

Apparently you never played in a Massillon-McKinley game.

Ding....ding....ding - We have a winner! You are correct sir!

[CarlE]

I give RR one year and UM will be a top 5 program again.

Let me know what you are willing to bet on that. God I freaking HATE Rodriquez.

[warren1st]

Let me know what you are willing to bet on that. God I freaking HATE Rodriquez.

You must be worried! :2thumbsup:

[CarlE]

You must be worried! :2thumbsup:

So worried I asked him to name the bet. That doesn't sound worried to me.

[warren1st]

So worried I asked him to name the bet. That doesn't sound worried to me.
Ah, you know deep down in your heart this could be OSU's last run on whuppin' Michigan! lol!!

[CarlE]

Ah, you know deep down in your heart this could be OSU's last run on whuppin' Michigan! lol!!

No, what I do know is that one of my best friend's family is alumni, boosters, and MASSIVE financial supporters of WVa. In fact, the wife's family still lives in the Morgantown area. Believe me there are no sour grapes here, but the stories they tell about this clown are just unbelievable. The guy has NO morals or ethics, no class, and come this season you will all see that when he starts getting his ass whipped on Saturdays.

[Paul Brown]

Ah, you know deep down in your heart this could be OSU's last run on whuppin' Michigan! lol!!

Aww, I love the hope the Michigan faithful show.. it's so cute.

[warren1st]

No, what I do know is that one of my best friend's family is alumni, boosters, and MASSIVE financial supporters of WVa. In fact, the wife's family still lives in the Morgantown area. Believe me there are no sour grapes here, but the stories they tell about this clown are just unbelievable. The guy has NO morals or ethics, no class, and come this season you will all see that when he starts getting his ass whipped on Saturdays.

It sounds exactly like sour grapes. Why was everyone so upset when he left? Why didn't they just can him if he was such a bad human being and coach????? C'mon Carl you can do better than that!!

[monte81]

Let me know what you are willing to bet on that. God I freaking HATE Rodriquez.

I am willing to bet CarlE--drinks, money, etc,... I am not afraid to back up my prediction! I know football and have watched the recruits last signing date and the signees thus far this upcoming year and those kids are fast and built for his style of offense.

[CarlE]

I am willing to bet CarlE--drinks, money, etc,... I am not afraid to back up my prediction! I know football and have watched the recruits last signing date and the signees thus far this upcoming year and those kids are fast and built for his style of offense.

Monte, you know half of what you think you do.

Warren1st, believe me when I tell you the people I'm talking about have WAY bigger things to deal with than some washed up Mexican. I'm giving you all I can. If you choose to live in the bubble, so be it. I know what I know, and you know what you BELIEVE. Major difference. I have NO dog in this hunt.

[warren1st]

Warren1st, believe me when I tell you the people I'm talking about have WAY bigger things to deal with than some washed up Mexican. I'm giving you all I can. If you choose to live in the bubble, so be it. I know what I know, and you know what you BELIEVE. Major difference. I have NO dog in this hunt.

I know you have no dog in this hunt but why can't you answer my questions? I guess as long as he won, WVU fans turned their collective heads on this terrible guy, RichRod.

What I'm willing to do to everyone is give them the benefit of doubt until he proves otherwise. Can't you?

[warren1st]

Aww, I love the hope the Michigan faithful show.. it's so cute.

Let's not get mean-spirited. Weren't you a mod at one time?

[CarlE]

It sounds exactly like sour grapes. Why was everyone so upset when he left? Why didn't they just can him if he was such a bad human being and coach????? C'mon Carl you can do better than that!!

I'll answer what I know. First, I hear he was recruiting for Michigan before he ever LEFT Morgantown. Second, he took half of the official records of his office WITH him. Illegal? Perhaps not. Low-class? Definitely. After the debacle with Pitt and his little crying act afterwards, they SHOULD have canned his ass. The answers as I know them. Oh, and let's not forget the $4 million he tried to steal.

[monte81]

Monte, you know half of what you think you do.

Warren1st, believe me when I tell you the people I'm talking about have WAY bigger things to deal with than some washed up Mexican. I'm giving you all I can. If you choose to live in the bubble, so be it. I know what I know, and you know what you BELIEVE. Major difference. I have NO dog in this hunt.

If that's what you think CarlE. I know what I see and can judge talent pretty well over the years. Take the bet---- drinks, cash, etc,... UM will not be out the BCS picture beyond this season and RR may surprise some of you this year! You calling or hiding????

What dog do I have in the hunt? Just know how coaches and schemes can change rather quickly. Purdue gives Big Ten teams problems with the spread with 25% of the talent RR is getting at UM but the offense will not work?? Seems to do pretty good for Arburn, Oregon, and Florida. How many games did WVU lose the last 3 years running the offense?

[CarlE]

If that's what you think CarlE. I know what I see and can judge talent pretty well over the years. Take the bet---- drinks, cash, etc,... UM will not be out the BCS picture beyond this season and RR may surprise some of you this year! You calling or hiding????

What dog do I have in the hunt? Just know how coaches and schemes can change rather quickly. Purdue gives Big Ten teams problems with the spread with 25% of the talent RR is getting at UM but the offense will not work?? Seems to do pretty good for Arburn, Oregon, and Florida. How many games did WVU lose the last 3 years running the offense?

Michigan ain't Florida my friend. The last two BCS games should have taught someone with your vast football knowledge THAT if nothing else.

[hexumjunkie]

Damn straight.....Michigan kicked Florida's behind last year something your buckeyes have failed to do...

[CarlE]

Damn straight.....Michigan kicked Florida's behind last year something your buckeyes have failed to do...

Uh huh. Not a good Florida team. PLEASE don't make me go into the SEC vs. Big Ten discussion again. I make you guys look stupid everytime you head down that path.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Uh huh. Not a good Florida team. PLEASE don't make me go into the SEC vs. Big Ten discussion again. I make you guys look stupid everytime you head down that path.

CarlE,

Seems like you have established your battleground. You have a lot of intangibles that set you aside from others.

[warren1st]

Damn straight.....Michigan kicked Florida's behind last year something your buckeyes have failed to do...

Touche'!!

CarlE - Michigan is 23-5-1 all-time against the SEC and 7-3 in bowl games. Granted, the rest of the B10 has not fared too well.

[CarlE]

Touche'!!

CarlE - Michigan is 23-5-1 all-time against the SEC and 7-3 in bowl games. Granted, the rest of the B10 has not fared too well.

Michigan plays 2nd tier SEC teams in 2nd tier bowl games. INCLUDING Florida last year. Why don't you yokels just give up? You're NOT going to win this one.

[monte81]

Michigan ain't Florida my friend. The last two BCS games should have taught someone with your vast football knowledge THAT if nothing else.

Taught me what?? That OSU has speed issues on the oline and dline that could not match up with Florida or LSU. Like in 2007 everyone east of the Mississippi blamed Troy Smith but the oline just didn't match up well and cost them valuable seconds in running the offense. Smith's fault---HELL NO!!! On UM---RR recruits speed and has some of top players in the Midwest going to UM. Just like he re-built WVU into a BCS contender he will do the same at UM. However, he already has made enough moves to play in the Big Ten.
RR stole the most versitile RB in Ohio(Michael Shaw) who showed his game well in the All-American game and a WR(Roundtree) that can line up with any DB in the Big Ten right from Ohio. Not to mention Um got the best DB/WR/RB in Ohio this year in Mr. Justin Turner.
However, I do agree that the SEC is the best conference in college football right now top to bottom.

Are we betting???

[CarlE]

Taught me what?? That OSU has speed issues on the oline and dline that could not match up with Florida or LSU. Like in 2007 everyone east of the Mississippi blamed Troy Smith but the oline just didn't match up well and cost them valuable seconds in running the offense. Smith's fault---HELL NO!!! On UM---RR recruits speed and has some of top players in the Midwest going to UM. Just like he re-built WVU into a BCS contender he will do the same at UM. However, he already has made enough moves to play in the Big Ten.
RR stole the most versitile RB in Ohio(Michael Shaw) who showed his game well in the All-American game and a WR(Roundtree) that can line up with any DB in the Big Ten right from Ohio. Not to mention Um got the best DB/WR/RB in Ohio this year in Mr. Justin Turner.
However, I do agree that the SEC is the best conference in college football right now top to bottom.

Are we betting???

If you think that OSU only lost the speed battles on the line my friend we weren't watching the same game. EVERYWHERE.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

If you think that OSU only lost the speed battles on the line my friend we weren't watching the same game. EVERYWHERE.

No kidding.
I like to think of myself as an OSU fan, but they just plain got their butts kicked.

And it wasn't just speed.
It was also Tressel's uncanny resemblence to Stacy, even if for that one game.

[CarlE]

No kidding.
I like to think of myself as an OSU fan, but they just plain got their butts kicked.

And it wasn't just speed.
It was also Tressel's uncanny resemblence to Stacy, even if for that one game.

I would say two years in a row for the last comparison.

[warren1st]

I would say two years in a row for the last comparison.

Well, if you OSU fans are unhappy with Tress, I know a school "Up North" ........oh well, it ain't ever gonna happen.

You have the best coach in the country and you don't even realize it.

[CarlE]

Well, if you OSU fans are unhappy with Tress, I know a school "Up North" ........oh well, it ain't ever gonna happen.

You have the best coach in the country and you don't even realize it.

Of COURSE I realize it. That doesn't mean he coaches perfect games everytime out. Come on, quit trying to pit OSU fans against each other. It's WAY too transparent.

[warren1st]

Of COURSE I realize it. That doesn't mean he coaches perfect games everytime out. Come on, quit trying to pit OSU fans against each other. It's WAY too transparent.
I know in your mind you're always right but in this case you're wrong. I was simply stating you have the best coach in the country but you still criticize him. Simple as that.

[TigerCoach]

No kidding.
I like to think of myself as an OSU fan, but they just plain got their butts kicked.

And it wasn't just speed.
It was also Tressel's uncanny resemblence to Stacy, even if for that one game.

I think Ohio State does have speed at the skilled positions, including LB. Like Monte said, the OSU offensive line wasn't used to the athleticism that LSU and Florida have at the D-Line positions. The Big Ten D-lines are traditional, big, strong and not real athletic for the most part. The SEC takes high school running backs, QB's and LB's and makes them awesome Defensive Ends with athleticism.

With that being said, I don't think OSU lost because of speed to LSU. They just had a bad game. Florida, on the other hand, just kicked our ass with team speed and a long, long layoff from the Michigan game.

[monte81]

I think Ohio State does have speed at the skilled positions, including LB. Like Monte said, the OSU offensive line wasn't used to the athleticism that LSU and Florida have at the D-Line positions. The Big Ten D-lines are traditional, big, strong and not real athletic for the most part. The SEC takes high school running backs, QB's and LB's and makes them awesome Defensive Ends with athleticism.

With that being said, I don't think OSU lost because of speed to LSU. They just had a bad game. Florida, on the other hand, just kicked our ass with team speed and a long, long layoff from the Michigan game.

I agree TC! You see NOWHERE in college football can 350lb. tackles block 265 D Ends/Power Forwards. Stunts, twists, etc,... always bottle up big slow lineman. Osu has to get more athletic on the Oline. OSU lost the FLorida game up front which caused no plays by the skill positions. LSU had overall better team speed as well and OSu did have a bad game----wrong time for that 2 years in a row!

[monte81]

If you think that OSU only lost the speed battles on the line my friend we weren't watching the same game. EVERYWHERE.

Tyhe oline is where the money is made CarlE--anyone who knows football would agree with that. If you lose the majority of the battles up front---other aspects will dwindle during a game.

Speed Kills and OSU must get more athletic but looking at the 2008 signing class I see the same Big Ten prototype olinemen.

However, I just left the Woody Hayes complex and see big things going on in the C-bus.

[massillon catholic]

However, I just left the Woody Hayes complex and see big things going on in the C-bus.

What were you doing cleaning the floors? Just kidding , Monte, havent heard much from you lately. MC

[DE#53]

Damn straight.....Michigan kicked Florida's behind last year something your buckeyes have failed to do...
Didn't O.S.U. smack scUM right before playing Florida? And do I have to mention APPALACHIAN STATE?

[DE#53]

Tyhe oline is where the money is made CarlE--anyone who knows football would agree with that. If you lose the majority of the battles up front---other aspects will dwindle during a game.

Speed Kills and OSU must get more athletic but looking at the 2008 signing class I see the same Big Ten prototype olinemen.

However, I just left the Woody Hayes complex and see big things going on in the C-bus.
For the record in the Florida game Boone (Left Tackle) was playing with a partial knee tear and could not move laterally to pass block. Tressel did panic and abandon the run in that game too early. When he went for it on 4th and one before the half on his own 35 yard line, didn't make it, then Gators scored to make it a 14 pt. lead that was the game.

Lsu game the defense was the problem. Bucks couldn't get off the field on third down. Was up 10-0, missed a field goal, Robiskie had ball knocked out of his hands in endzone, had a penalty after they bocked a punt. Yeah that probably was the fastest team they played and I don't know why with that huge O-Line why they didn't eliminate the speed factor, slow the game down and go a lot of double tight and pound Beanie between the tackles about 35 times. Especially after they were up 10-0.

I think Tressel did learn from all this. He did get 3 of the top ten National O-line recruits in this last class. With Pryor waiting in the wings and Brandon Saine on deck, this Buckeye offense is going to be fun to watch the next 3-4 years. Hey all you scUM fans... talk up Dick Rod all you want because the hits will just keep on coming every saturday before Thanksgiving! Remember Cooper isn't in Columbus anymore. If that school up north wanted a good coach they should have got one that was born in Ohio. That's where all their good coaches and players come from. God I love watching the expressions on their faces like the crew of the Hindenburg when they loose to the Bucks!

[monte81]

What were you doing cleaning the floors? Just kidding , Monte, havent heard much from you lately. MC

I had a meeting with some coaches and hung out in the weight room. The new additions to the complex is incredible. check your PM's!

[warren1st]

This is for CarlE - Please take the time and watch; possibly you will feel differently about RichRod.

http://www.bigtennetwork.com/videos/football.asp?bcpid=1463312976&bclid=1460943230&bctid=1688292352

Seriously, please watch it. I was impressed.

[warren1st]

Hey, CarlE, I'm still waiting for your thoughts AFTER watching RichRod! Now don't tell me you didn't see the prior post!

[CarlE]

Hey, CarlE, I'm still waiting for your thoughts AFTER watching RichRod! Now don't tell me you didn't see the prior post!

I watched about 8 minutes of it and got naseous from listening to his lying ass. I couldn't bear to watch any more. Plus I was heading out last night. The only time I've ever heard a Mexican named Rodriguez with a freaking southern drawl saying y'all. What a joke.

[warren1st]

I watched about 8 minutes of it and got naseous from listening to his lying ass. I couldn't bear to watch any more. Plus I was heading out last night. The only time I've ever heard a Mexican named Rodriguez with a freaking southern drawl saying y'all. What a joke.

That's exactly the reply I expected from you.

You won't think it's a joke when he beats "y'all" in a year or two!:heee:

[CarlE]

That's exactly the reply I expected from you.

You won't think it's a joke when he beats "y'all" in a year or two!:heee:

Well, according to Monte they're going to be in the top 5 next year. God, my free beer ALREADY tastes good.

[monte81]

Well, according to Monte they're going to be in the top 5 next year. God, my free beer ALREADY tastes good.

We will see! CarlE-- the athletes and SPEED that RR recruits will not take long to make an impact. The defensive players adjustments are minimal from the 3/4 to the 3/3/5 and the offensive personell will improve with each recruiting class. I follow HS football throughout the country and see and realize who and can make impacts at the next level. UM will be at the top again really soon. Was not the Wolverines just ranked #2 in the nation in 2006 before losing to the bucks? Not much to improve but winning a couple games against the buckeyes. This year---ahhhhhhhhh a major upset MHO-- I dont think so but anything can happen. WHo thought Illinois would go from 3-9 to 10-3 in one year with a talented recruiting class and an BIG win in Columbus.

Hail to the Victors! Go Bucks!!!! I just root for the kids I know and talk to regardless of the team they play for in college. I know ans see buckeyes frequently and wish them the best of luck. However when BG or (JT in the future) line up against AZNYBODY, I want multiple TD's, hits, big plays, etc,... because that is my TEAM!!!

[CarlE]

I heard you the first time, bro!!! LOL.

[monte81]

I heard you the first time, bro!!! LOL.

My laptops at hoke are doing crazy things---running slow, knocking me offline, etc,... Sorry for the duplicat post. however, I will be right on this one. One of the BCS games for sure in 2010!