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ajhodel
07-12-2008, 02:08 PM
Press release at
http://www.massillon.sparcc.org/

Coach Hall Audio Comments at
http://athleticscholarshipcorp.com/index.php?p=testimonial

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When people think of the city of Massillon or Washington High School, they think football, and with good reason. Massillonians eat and sleep high school football. After Paul Brown was a student and then a coach here, he went on to revolutionize professional football. Washington High has produced more than 20 pro players and 14 All-Americans, and it’s been the country’s top-rated high school football program nine times.

Thanks to the program’s prestige and winning ways, Tiger football players are on the radar of coaches around the country more than the average American high school players. But now, thanks to a new partnership with Athletic Scholarship Corporation (ASC), a company that helps showcase top high school athletes to coaches around the country, not only will more Washington football players get exposure to more colleges, but so will other top Tiger baseball, basketball and soccer players, and perhaps even wrestlers, swimmers and other athletes.

ASC will work with Washington High’s staff to select and promote its standout athletes to colleges offering scholarships. For each selected athlete, biographical information is gathered, as well as video footage which ASC edits frame by frame to draw attention to specific talents.

ASC founder and CEO AJ Hodel and his staff will consult with the coaches, as well as the athlete’s family, to determine the appropriate divisions and schools for the athletes. ASC then notifies selected college coaches and athletic directors across the country, who can access an online profile page for each student athlete that includes highlight reels, photos, biographical info, athletic achievements, and links to highlight videos that clearly showcase the athlete’s abilities. Statistics and other pertinent facts are regularly updated on the page.

Washington High Athletic Director Tim Ridgely is excited about working with ASC. “Along with winning, every coach’s goal is to get kids into college programs," he said. "We knew that ASC had helped students at other schools get full rides at colleges, including kids who weren’t as much on the radar as the standout athletes."

ASC’s Hodel is an athlete himself, with a coaching background and proven instincts for seeing the potential in student athletes. In fact, more than a few times he has spotted college potential that even the coaches hadn’t fully recognized. “We can certainly spot talent," Ridgley said, "but AJ specializes in knowing what these coaches are looking for; he’s great at discerning whether an athlete is a Division I, Division II or Division III level player."

Washington High School and the city of Massillon take pleasure in being renowned for football, and now even more Tiger footballers will get their shot at a scholarship. But just as significantly, ASC will help bring the school’s other athletic programs out of the football program’s shadow and into their own limelight.

TigerCoach
07-13-2008, 11:00 AM
Thanks AJ, for the willingness to assist all student athletes in their pursuit of college athletics. The Tiger community looks forward to working with you.

monte81
07-13-2008, 11:06 AM
A program like this is needed in tigertown to help ALL student/athletes get the best shot at an free education!

LLRose
07-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Can anyone name a Massillon Player that "slipped through the cracks" and didn't receive a D I, I-AA or Div II scholarship that was academically eligible and conducted them off the field with the leadership required to earn a Division 1 scholarship worth $100,000?

If you can play, they will find you at Massillon.

These outside "marketing" firms are a cottage industry.

How did anyone get noticed before these firms were started?

Between the summer camps and clinics that players attend and countless coaches that visit Massillon for recruiting stops this is not needed.

The number one way boarderline kids get noticed is while coaches watch film of other players (Massillon opponents) and a Massillon player stands out on the game film and gets the recruiters attendtion.

With the schedule we play, Massillon players have an opportunity to get noticed thousands of times every year by countless college recruiters.

If you can play, they will find you at Massillon. This may be beneficial for a Division 2, 3, 4, 5 school, but Massillon?

Coke Guy
07-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Great idea. Who's paying for it?

TigerCoach
07-14-2008, 06:53 AM
Can anyone name a Massillon Player that "slipped through the cracks" and didn't receive a D I, I-AA or Div II scholarship that was academically eligible and conducted them off the field with the leadership required to earn a Division 1 scholarship worth $100,000?

If you can play, they will find you at Massillon.

These outside "marketing" firms are a cottage industry.

How did anyone get noticed before these firms were started?

Between the summer camps and clinics that players attend and countless coaches that visit Massillon for recruiting stops this is not needed.

The number one way boarderline kids get noticed is while coaches watch film of other players (Massillon opponents) and a Massillon player stands out on the game film and gets the recruiters attendtion.

With the schedule we play, Massillon players have an opportunity to get noticed thousands of times every year by countless college recruiters.

If you can play, they will find you at Massillon. This may be beneficial for a Division 2, 3, 4, 5 school, but Massillon?

I would agree with you if we were only talking about football here. This service is to expose all sports, both male and female, to the world of college athletics. It can't be a bad thing.

ajhodel
07-15-2008, 08:14 PM
Great idea. Who's paying for it?

The school

ajhodel
07-15-2008, 08:17 PM
I would agree with you if we were only talking about football here. This service is to expose all sports, both male and female, to the world of college athletics. It can't be a bad thing.

I respect your opinion.....However, I have a proven track record in all sports. Jason Hall has worked with me over the years and has seen first hand the care I take.

So after this is all said and done.. we can update the board about the cottage industry.

After all the kids earn it.. I'm just a well respected messenger who loves what he does and lives a positive life!

Go Tigers----IN ALL SPORTS NOW!

:poke:

LLRose
07-16-2008, 08:27 AM
I respect your opinion.....However, I have a proven track record in all sports. Jason Hall has worked with me over the years and has seen first hand the care I take.

So after this is all said and done.. we can update the board about the cottage industry.

After all the kids earn it.. I'm just a well respected messenger who loves what he does and lives a positive life!

Go Tigers----IN ALL SPORTS NOW!

:poke:

Who are you?

Red50Go
07-16-2008, 08:57 AM
Earth to LLRose: ASC founder and CEO AJ Hodel...

How do you comment on an article you dont even read???

monte81
07-16-2008, 10:36 AM
Earth to LLRose: ASC founder and CEO AJ Hodel...

How do you comment on an article you dont even read???


Because he is always looking for something to go against the system. Athletes in Massillon--even football are left out of recruiting loops. A coach can play a player out of position and never get noticed. One player comes to mind right off hand from last years sqaud is Dorie Irvin 3 year letterman(2 starting) in football, 3 year letterman in basketball,etc,... was not even getting any looks. BTW---our former coach didn't even promote is players to colleges and all other sports are seriously lacking when it comes to schollie offers.
One player lettered in football at a DI program and our former coach thought he was a DII/DIII player---shows you that everyone even coaches are not experts in determining talent levels.

LLRose
07-16-2008, 12:44 PM
Earth to LLRose: ASC founder and CEO AJ Hodel...

How do you comment on an article you dont even read???

You must have missed my point, I'm looking for a resume, experience....

LLRose
07-16-2008, 01:14 PM
Because he is always looking for something to go against the system. Athletes in Massillon--even football are left out of recruiting loops. A coach can play a player out of position and never get noticed. One player comes to mind right off hand from last years sqaud is Dorie Irvin 3 year letterman(2 starting) in football, 3 year letterman in basketball,etc,... was not even getting any looks. BTW---our former coach didn't even promote is players to colleges and all other sports are seriously lacking when it comes to schollie offers.
One player lettered in football at a DI program and our former coach thought he was a DII/DIII player---shows you that everyone even coaches are not experts in determining talent levels.

Go against the system?

That's funny, I'm sorry I'm not a myopic follower, I have the courage to speak out when things are BS.

Let me get this right, Hall is an Assistant Athletic Director and Head Football Coach... he needs an outside firm to get kids noticed for scholarship opportunities at Massillon Washington High School?

I hope he has a life jacket b/c he may be in over his head.

You don't think Tom knows the difference b/w D1 mid major and D II players?
He coached at both places and recruited at both levels. So you believe Tom should place his credibility on the line and recommend kids to colleges he doesn't feel the kid can play at?

Do that to a college coach and watch a future kid that can play, not get an offer if he gets burned. College recruiting is high stakes, college assistants that recommend kids for scholarships that don't belong, get fired.

Akron Kent and YSU are well aware of Massillon Players. If they can play and qualify, they get offers.

I still can't believe this is being taken seriously, West Branch, Minerva or Tuslaw yes, this service may help kids get noticed by a mid major or D2 for a look, Massillon Washington High School does not need to pay for this service.

Red50Go
07-16-2008, 02:47 PM
Yeah right, Stacy must have been too busy being an offensive genius, and looking for a job. You are so freaking wrong and love to argue about stupid stuff even this positive I dont know why I bother. Monte's got you pegged.

monte81
07-16-2008, 03:04 PM
Go against the system?

That's funny, I'm sorry I'm not a myopic follower, I have the courage to speak out when things are BS.

Let me get this right, Hall is an Assistant Athletic Director and Head Football Coach... he needs an outside firm to get kids noticed for scholarship opportunities at Massillon Washington High School?

I hope he has a life jacket b/c he may be in over his head.

You don't think Tom knows the difference b/w D1 mid major and D II players?
He coached at both places and recruited at both levels. So you believe Tom should place his credibility on the line and recommend kids to colleges he doesn't feel the kid can play at?

Do that to a college coach and watch a future kid that can play, not get an offer if he gets burned. College recruiting is high stakes, college assistants that recommend kids for scholarships that don't belong, get fired.

Akron Kent and YSU are well aware of Massillon Players. If they can play and qualify, they get offers.

I still can't believe this is being taken seriously, West Branch, Minerva or Tuslaw yes, this service may help kids get noticed by a mid major or D2 for a look, Massillon Washington High School does not need to pay for this service.


A job of a HS Head Coach his to promote is players to colleges and get schollies. WHich Stacy did not do a great job of doing!!! We have not had a coach who could adequetely promote student/athletes correctly since Coach Moronto left town with maybe the exception of Coach Shepis.

Coach Stacy and the academic advisors cost Emery Saunders a DI deal in 2006. Tom could see the obvious DI players like BG and Daily but slipped on the rest of the players with his one way binoculors.
Coach Hall over his head??? FUNNY, I applaud the way he has taken the steps to assure NOONE gets left out a deal in any sport in Tigertown!!!!! How can that be a bad thing???

austinsm11
07-16-2008, 03:20 PM
A job of a HS Head Coach his to promote is players to colleges and get schollies. WHich Stacy did not do a great job of doing!!! We have not had a coach who could adequetely promote student/athletes correctly since Coach Moronto left town with maybe the exception of Coach Shepis.


So I guess my question is why are we not holding the coaches more accountable then? Instead we go and hire an outside agency that costs money. Does the AD (or has any AD at Massillon) sit down with the coaches in all of the sports to see what they are doing to help the athletes get scholarships for college?

Red50Go
07-16-2008, 04:11 PM
So I guess my question is why are we not holding the coaches more accountable then? Instead we go and hire an outside agency that costs money. Does the AD (or has any AD at Massillon) sit down with the coaches in all of the sports to see what they are doing to help the athletes get scholarships for college?

At least we recognized the need, and maybe part of the problem is lack of resources or time. I dont know. College is pretty darn expensive if not impossible for many Massillon families so I applaud our efforts, but I am sure there is a cost above which I would say its too expensive too. Since we dont know its kinda hard to debate.

austinsm11
07-16-2008, 04:20 PM
At least we recognized the need, and maybe part of the problem is lack of resources or time.

If that is the case, then I would understand. I am just curious if the coaches have been asked what they do to get the kids some scholarship money, especially the smaller sports. My gut feeling is that, at least for the smaller sports, that the athletes and their families are doing most, if not all, of the work.


If the coaches are doing all they can do and there still seems to be a need for additional help, then I would be all for it.

ivan09
07-16-2008, 05:27 PM
As the parent of a player I will take all help we can get and say THANK YOU AJ

Kamd50
07-16-2008, 06:19 PM
As the parent of a player I will take all help we can get and say THANK YOU AJ

I couldn't agree more. As a parent of a college student who is receiving very little in the way of financial aid, I can assure you that it is a very frustrating, stressful, and costly situation to deal with each year trying to come up with and find loans for so that your kid can have a better life than yourself.

I assure you that we will be thrilled to death if our present highschool/athlete receives any kind of athletic awards to pay for or help pay for his education.

LakeCountyTiger
07-16-2008, 07:21 PM
Geez, I'm watching this thread and I want to pipe in but since I'm an out of towner I probably shouldn't form an opinion.... but I am a big fan, so I guess I will anyway... one thing I wonder how much money are we talking about for the service? Is it $100 a month or $10,000 a month? Is anyone keeping count how many schollies before and after? Although, that would be hard to draw a conclusion because talent level is different from year to year. I would guess or like to guess someone has made the decision that it is the best interest of the kids and families. If I did have an opinion I would have a "lets see how it goes" as long as were not talking a ton of money. Every school is different, I know where I live my alma mater (Painesville Harvey) is D3, in a lousy conference, good athletes that are underdeveloped and rarely have a football player go to the next level. Now we hired a new coach 3 years ago, a very close friend of Tedd Ginn but came from Shaw high school, so he has done the "bus tour" thing the last 3 years. Now I'm not quite sure who was picked to go or if it was open to all. But we have a kid that was offered from Iowa (he chose not to go) a kid at Kansas (he might start at OL as a soph) and a kid named Chris Fields who just accepted to play for coach Tressel at Ohio St (he's a SR this year) a QB that just accepted to Wayne St and 2 more going to play for Lee Owens at Ashland. Also two more going to play 1AA(schools are slipping my memory). That's quite a change around here. Could these kids have got these offers without the tour? I don't know, maybe, maybe not. How do we fund it? Well, the boosters give some, they do fund raisers and get donations. I personally donate because I think it's great that the coach takes the time and the kids want to do it. I'll donate again next year. Why? Because I want the kids that live by me to have every opportunity for someone to see them. On the flip side, Harvey isn't Massillon, we don't play the kind of football typically that scouts will come to see, so this was a huge need here. I don't have enough info for me to really add to what you guys have going on, everyone is different, every school is different. I do know one thing for sure, when a kid can get schollie money for playing sports, academics or for any other reason, it's really a good thing, really good...I do know one thing for sure.. The deeper teams go into the playoffs the better the chance to be seen, so my advice.. WIN THE STATE TITLE, and they will come.... I think I'm going to go watch Travis McGuire run for 300 yards against the Bulldogs again... Damn, I loved that game...Later

TigerCoach
07-17-2008, 10:09 AM
Our football program has always had exposure. Because of who we are, players who were marginal D-I players were given the benefit of the doubt and afforded those opportunities that a marginal player in the Federal League would not get. Some examples include Billy Relford (Toledo & West Virgina), J.P Simon (Cincinnati) and others that I won't name because I don't want to put down anyone. Basically, some kids go to a D-I football school and fizzle out because they may not have the talent to compete. It's common and not isolated to Massillon kids.

We've also had the assistance of Chuck Utterback for years in the college process. He spent many, many hours helping kids get their things in order for college requirements. He is no longer in that role, as he is retired and spending more time with family out of state.

The whole purpose of this service isn't for the football program. It's for ALL student athletes, male & female. Sure, the football program is pretty efficient, but there are also some very talented kids in other sports. I laugh when some of you talk about the cost of this service. How do you know how much it costs? If you don't know, how can you complain about it? Wake up people, this is a positive thing for Massillon.

hrmjenl
07-17-2008, 10:41 AM
In my own humble personal opinion, which doesn't count for much I'm sure, I appreciate the fact this service is geared towards ALL SPORTS. THAT should be the main point. Maybe football can self-sustain when it comes to exposure and opportunities but the other sports could use some assistance, I'm sure. I have 2 kids that are beginning their high school sports careers (ok 1 is in 8th grade, close enough) one boy and one girl. If this service can help either of them, as they DON'T play football, then bring it!! High school coaches are charged with the responsibility of not only coaching their athletes but helping to secure scholarships if at all possible. They are COACHES - do they know EVERY college scout out there? Are they trained in promoting athletes? They aren't experts in sports marketing, they are coaches!! So if this service can help them help our kids and get some exposure that has possibly been missed in the past, so be it! This is what AJ does - and until Coach Hall or the school system can say the investment (whatever it may be) isn't worth the return, we need to let him do his job.

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 10:43 AM
According the website there are three plans. The Gold plan is $599, the Silver is $299, and the Bronze is free.

LakeCountyTiger
07-17-2008, 10:59 AM
You're kidding? That sounds like a no brainer then.. So the Gold plan is like $5 a month per sport....

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 11:08 AM
You're kidding? That sounds like a no brainer then.. So the Gold plan is like $5 a month per sport....

I'm guessing that is for individuals who purchase the program. There is supposed to be a combine at the indoor facility in December that costs $100 per player.


I'm not sure what kind of discounts there are when a school district purchases the services.

Red50Go
07-17-2008, 12:52 PM
I guess if we are on the bronze plan it doesn't matter.

LakeCountyTiger
07-17-2008, 01:01 PM
I'm guessing that is for individuals who purchase the program. There is supposed to be a combine at the indoor facility in December that costs $100 per player.


I'm not sure what kind of discounts there are when a school district purchases the services.

ohhh, OK, thanks for the clarification

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 01:03 PM
ohhh, OK, thanks for the clarification

LOL, I don't know how much I clarified for you. I really don't know for sure. Just a guess.

monte81
07-17-2008, 01:17 PM
Massillon takes steps to assure th no student athlete with the ability to play college ball in any sport gets the rightful chance and some posters have a problem with that concept?????

This can only be good for the sports that lack needed exposure. Please do not knock the system until you(we) give it time to work!

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 01:39 PM
I think the main concern is the cost. What is the true cost? Who will pay the cost? Which level of service is Massillon getting? Will the AD/Coaches set up free accounts for all the Massillon athletes and the athlete will have the option to purchase the next level? (edit - I guess this won't be happening since I noticed earlier in the thread that the school will be paying the cost)

Will the $99 combine fee in the indoor facility be waived for Massillon athletes since we have a deal with them is another question?

I still have a concern with the coaches' roles. Several stated their displeasure with the lack of effort of the coaches working to help get scholarships. Why aren't they doing more? Why are we (potentially) paying someone to help do their job?

Kamd50
07-17-2008, 01:49 PM
I think the main concern is the cost. What is the true cost? Who will pay the cost? Which level of service is Massillon getting? Will the AD/Coaches set up free accounts for all the Massillon athletes and the athlete will have the option to purchase the next level? (edit - I guess this won't be happening since I noticed earlier in the thread that the school will be paying the cost)

Will the $99 combine fee in the indoor facility be waived for Massillon athletes since we have a deal with them is another question?

I still have a concern with the coaches' roles. Several stated their displeasure with the lack of effort of the coaches working to help get scholarships. Why aren't they doing more? Why are we (potentially) paying someone to help do their job?

Not trying to be a smarty here, austinsm, but what is this "we" stuff? Don't you live in NC?

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 01:56 PM
Not trying to be a smarty here, austinsm, but what is this "we" stuff? Don't you live in NC?

Ok, why is the school paying someone to do their job? Better?

There was no intention/meaning when I used it.

Kamd50
07-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Ok, why is the school paying someone to do their job? Better?

There was no intention/meaning when I used it.

LOL, I guess my question is more directed at the fact that you seem so concerned about the cost of this when it does not affect you in any way. When , at least so far, the parents and ones in the community seem to be grateful for the attention that this matter is being given for the benefit of all our athletes who may need the help. In these competitive times, any edge in obtaining scholarships is an important and good thing, imho.

TigerCoach
07-17-2008, 02:24 PM
I think the main concern is the cost. What is the true cost? Who will pay the cost? Which level of service is Massillon getting? Will the AD/Coaches set up free accounts for all the Massillon athletes and the athlete will have the option to purchase the next level? (edit - I guess this won't be happening since I noticed earlier in the thread that the school will be paying the cost)

Will the $99 combine fee in the indoor facility be waived for Massillon athletes since we have a deal with them is another question?

I still have a concern with the coaches' roles. Several stated their displeasure with the lack of effort of the coaches working to help get scholarships. Why aren't they doing more? Why are we (potentially) paying someone to help do their job?

Good questions, but you have to remember that the different programs have different types of coaches. Sure, the football coaches should have that as part of their job description and incentive package (I know there isn't one, but there should be). Some football coaches are excellent at getting kids college opportunities, and some just aren't interested. Tom Stacy may have coached at various levels in college, but he didn't seem to help many people get there. When I was in high school, Mike Currence didn't even talk about college football. Most guys that I knew were on their own to make their own opportunities. I know Kamd is going to get on me for being a Shepas fan, but he busted his butt to get guys in college at all levels. Maybe the best we've had.

Many other sports don't typically see kids get athletic scholarships, and we've fallen into the routine of accepting that. Therefore, you have coaches who don't have the interest and/or incentive to get kids an opportunity. I know for a fact some coaches primarily do it for the supplemental contract and go through the motions of "coaching". They don't care if a kid goes on to college for a sport. This is where the service will help immensely.

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 02:29 PM
LOL, I guess my question is more directed at the fact that you seem so concerned about the cost of this when it does not affect you in any way. When , at least so far, the parents and ones in the community seem to be grateful for the attention that this matter is being given for the benefit of all our athletes who may need the help. In these competitive times, any edge in obtaining scholarships is an important and good thing, imho.

I absolutely agree. I would be very grateful as a parent for this "free" service.

But what are we (you- ha ha) really getting? Someone is already doing the player profiles? Booster club? I'm not sure.
http://www.massillontigers.com/teamroster.htm
Why not do them for all the sports? I know at one time there were some soccer profiles as well.


Seems better than their sample page, imo.
http://athleticscholarshipcorp.com/index.php?p=sample


My other concern is the lack of responsibility there seems to be from several of the coaches in this area. I had to do all the work. Monte mentions doing a good bit of work for his brother as well as others. Why are the coaches not doing more?



Again, I hope this doesn't seem like I don't want the Massillon athletes to get all the help they can. I just wonder if it is worth it. Perhaps parents won't really know until they find out what all is included and what it is costing the school. You are correct in that it isn't costing "me" anything. But the money has to come from somewhere. With increased gas for away games, potentially less fans at the football games, and I would assume possibly higher fees for the officials, what will this do to the athletic budget. Hopefully AJ will come back on there and explain a little more about what they are going to be offering Massillon students.

austinsm11
07-17-2008, 02:36 PM
Good questions, but you have to remember that the different programs have different types of coaches. Sure, the football coaches should have that as part of their job description and incentive package (I know there isn't one, but there should be). Some football coaches are excellent at getting kids college opportunities, and some just aren't interested. Tom Stacy may have coached at various levels in college, but he didn't seem to help many people get there. When I was in high school, Mike Currence didn't even talk about college football. Most guys that I knew were on their own to make their own opportunities. I know Kamd is going to get on me for being a Shepas fan, but he busted his butt to get guys in college at all levels. Maybe the best we've had.

Many other sports don't typically see kids get athletic scholarships, and we've fallen into the routine of accepting that. Therefore, you have coaches who don't have the interest and/or incentive to get kids an opportunity. I know for a fact some coaches primarily do it for the supplemental contract and go through the motions of "coaching". They don't care if a kid goes on to college for a sport. This is where the service will help immensely.

You are absolutely correct with the statement in bold. I know there are some as well who just pad their paycheck/retirement.

Now onto your last sentence. Yes, this service will help immensely. By why don't we hold our coaches to a higher standard first? If that isn't enough, then bring someone like this in. You mention that this should be part of the football coaches contract. Couldn't it be in contract for all the coaches? (Honestly, it shouldn't have to be if they truely cared about their sport and their kids that they coached.)


Again, I hope people don't take this the wrong way and think that I am against helping out these athletes.

Kamd50
07-17-2008, 02:45 PM
I certainly don't know the answers to all of your questions. But,it would appear by TC's post, that coaches are not contractually obligated to pursue the attainment of scholarships to further their athletes' education. Sad, I know. However, it also appears that Coach Hall has previous experience with A.J. Hodel and his ASC organization. So, I guess it is safe to say that he has confidence in and feels that there is a need for it here.

On a side note, for anyone looking for resume type information and so on, all you have to do is google either AJHodel or AthleticScholarshipCorporation:thumbsup:
I did find a myspace link that had what I guess you could consider to be testimonials as to some athlete's scholarship awards. I didn't check them all out, but a lot from Nordonia, if I recall correctly.

monte81
07-17-2008, 03:31 PM
I think the main concern is the cost. What is the true cost? Who will pay the cost? Which level of service is Massillon getting? Will the AD/Coaches set up free accounts for all the Massillon athletes and the athlete will have the option to purchase the next level? (edit - I guess this won't be happening since I noticed earlier in the thread that the school will be paying the cost)

Will the $99 combine fee in the indoor facility be waived for Massillon athletes since we have a deal with them is another question?

I still have a concern with the coaches' roles. Several stated their displeasure with the lack of effort of the coaches working to help get scholarships. Why aren't they doing more? Why are we (potentially) paying someone to help do their job?

This is a high volume approach to get noticed from schools which do not routinely recruit Midwest America. We have had players who could play at a higher level but fell through the cracks and this service would fix that for all sports.

However, this will not take any pressure off our staff to produce for our kids. A Head Coach would still be required to give an solid OK and have talk to college staff to lock down college offers if that answers your question. The service is to prepare the family, player, etc,... and save on film production, biography, and save on mail.

I spent several hundreds of dollars sending film and other things out for Pooder and BG not counting reproduction of all the games and highlight films. The service will actually save parents who truely want to help a kid get a schollie.

TigerCoach
07-17-2008, 04:19 PM
By why don't we hold our coaches to a higher standard first? If that isn't enough, then bring someone like this in. You mention that this should be part of the football coaches contract. Couldn't it be in contract for all the coaches? (Honestly, it shouldn't have to be if they truely cared about their sport and their kids that they coached.)

That's a good question for the MEA!

ajhodel
07-17-2008, 07:18 PM
I don't even know where to start after reading all of these posts.

1) I thought this was a positive board?

A school with such rich tradition and some of the best facilities in the country have all the tools to win games.

To say coach Hall is in over his head is nuts. I have watched him interact with kids and get the best out of them emotionally and physically. Put aside winning for one second ........this is about getting ALL ATHLETES NATIONAL EXPOSURE and play at the next level.

There isn't enough hours of the day for coaches to package kids profiles, films, and get it out to every school. Matter of fact 1AA and D2 schools I told about this Massillon contract stated "good, I'm glad you are involved with working with these kids...more than often we can't get these kids to our school cause of our facilities aren't as good as Massillon's or the kid thinks he can play at a higher level just because he's from Massillon".

Bottom line here, this program is about getting exposure that results in offers to help offset the rising costs of college. Tax dollars, (not much) are used to help all student-athletes at MWHS.

Let's make this a positive folks ......

TigerCoach
07-18-2008, 07:40 AM
I don't even know where to start after reading all of these posts.

1) I thought this was a positive board?

A school with such rich tradition and some of the best facilities in the country have all the tools to win games.

To say coach Hall is in over his head is nuts. I have watched him interact with kids and get the best out of them emotionally and physically. Put aside winning for one second ........this is about getting ALL ATHLETES NATIONAL EXPOSURE and play at the next level.

There isn't enough hours of the day for coaches to package kids profiles, films, and get it out to every school. Matter of fact 1AA and D2 schools I told about this Massillon contract stated "good, I'm glad you are involved with working with these kids...more than often we can't get these kids to our school cause of our facilities aren't as good as Massillon's or the kid thinks he can play at a higher level just because he's from Massillon".

Bottom line here, this program is about getting exposure that results in offers to help offset the rising costs of college. Tax dollars, (not much) are used to help all student-athletes at MWHS.

Let's make this a positive folks ......

I agree, AJ, I've been saying that all along and in every one of my posts. Just remember one thing about this website (and Massillon). There is always going to be someone who is negative about everything. The sun can come up and they would say, "That damn sun woke me up."

Your doing the kids a great service, and Massillon needs that. Thank you!