2008 Offense

[mtigers96]

I know hall's offence is basid on the talent he has but when I was watching some big ten football today I couldn't help but think about how awesome it would be to see clark & turner run that QB option play where the QB reads the DE & has the option of giving it to the HB or running it him self, I think West Virginia ran it the last few years.

[macguy]

I could care less if the playbook fits on a grain of rice.
Just execute and adjust if needed.

:tig:

[monte81]

Coach Hall will execute a offense designed to best fit our players and talent! That is the MUC way and it works well at the HS level. Hall should have fun with the talent we have in Massillon!!:tig:

[Mass6]

Coach Hall will execute a offense designed to best fit our players and talent! That is the MUC way and it works well at the HS level. Hall should have fun with the talent we have in Massillon!!:tig:

Exactly right Monte!! I personally would like to see Partridge and Turner running the option with Clark split as a wideout. He has the speed and should be able to read the defensive backfield and the coverage they are in, exploiting the holes that he has seen open up as a QB his whole life. Either way, I think Coach Hall and the Tigers will be fine, as long as they work hard and as a team.

[TigerCoach]

In order to watch Partridge run any offense you'll need to go watch Central Catholic play.

[DAWGH8R]

In order to watch Partridge run any offense you'll need to go watch Central Catholic play.


Funny how so many athletes find religion during their HS years !!

Must have attended a summer revival !!:heee:

[Mass6]

In order to watch Partridge run any offense you'll need to go watch Central Catholic play.

Wow, so that rumor is true huh?? Thanks for the info, even though it's tough to hear.

[TigerCoach]

I don't know if it will be that way this fall, but he has been working out all spring with the Crusaders.

[massillon catholic]

I don't know if it will be that way this fall, but he has been working out all spring with the Crusaders.


Is that legal?

[DAWGH8R]

Is that legal?


As long as WE don't do it !!!

Could you imagine if 5 kids from Tuslaw were participating in Massillon summer workouts ??:weightlift:

[Grandma Tiger]

Is that legal?

It seems a little odd that a person with the name Massillon Catholic would pose that question.

I'm sure its legal, just like its legal for the Catholic schools to offer some kind of financial aid or scholarship to attract the good football players from the tough city schools.

But we mustn't ever call it recruiting!
They don't recruit, no sir, not ever.

Personally, I think its cheating and poor sportmanship.
(Not that I'm saying they are doing it in this case.)
:wink:

[ChronicTiger]

Good luck to Partridge wherever he ends up playing....

[massillon catholic]

It seems a little odd that a person with the name Massillon Catholic would pose that question.
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Whats so odd? My kids go to Catholic schools, but I'm a Tiger all the way. I do agree with you that the rules are completely unfair between public and private schools.

[Farmer Harold]

I think we should run the wing t spread with JT at left guard.

[massillon catholic]

I think we should run the wing t spread.


What exactly is a "wing t spread"?

[Farmer Harold]

The T of running backs is offset to the side of the line by about 5 yards then once the ball is snapped the QB usually runs in the direction of the running backs and makes several fakes. It also sets up for some quick screens if you throw it to the deep back. Its supposed to be the next big thing.

[Seeker]

I think we should run the wing t spread with JT at left guard.

People are going to think that you are me.

Three weeks into the last season I was telling everyone that was what we should have been running instead of all the insane things we saw.

We wasted the best talents of at least five players last year.

Of course, I don't know a darn thing about football, but maybe you do.


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[StayStrong]

Exactly right Monte!! I personally would like to see Partridge and Turner running the option with Clark split as a wideout. He has the speed and should be able to read the defensive backfield and the coverage they are in, exploiting the holes that he has seen open up as a QB his whole life. Either way, I think Coach Hall and the Tigers will be fine, as long as they work hard and as a team.

I have to say that I don't understand why Partridge has been put on this pedestal for the last 2 years. Because although he starts the beginning of the year, by the end of the year he is not only splitting time but splitting starts with the Litman kid.

From my vantage point, although Litmans speed and raw power may not be as good as Partridge, has anyone noticed that the actual numbers in terms of scoring, yards passed for, td's passed for, QB efficiency, and (not to mention the biggest factor) ability to lead his team to victory when trailing. Those categories are all held by Litman.

I understand that Partridge has the size and speed, and I mean to take nothing away from his athletisism, but QB is more about having decent power, good speed/athletisism but great cerebral aptitutde. I would like to see a year where Partridges dad didn't have anything to do with where he played or how he ranked on the depth chart and let the coaches play for who they felt had the best comprehension of the position, ability to perform and was most capable of leading their team to victory in the 4th (Litman did it twice last year as a backup, and I think they only won 4 or 5 games)

Just hate to see politics play-in so blatantly, to a position that is so important while these kids are so young. We should be teaching these young men that hard work, dedication and a drive for success are what win you your job in football and in life and not what your fathers position is.

[obiefan]

This sounds like the "option" to me, which we used to run very effectively in the early 90's. See: Willie Spencer Jr

The T of running backs is offset to the side of the line by about 5 yards then once the ball is snapped the QB usually runs in the direction of the running backs and makes several fakes. It also sets up for some quick screens if you throw it to the deep back. Its supposed to be the next big thing.

[Red50Go]

StayStrong, what pedestal? Like Clarke or Willoughby? He is only a jr to be and would just now be competing for varsity. Maybe because 6'2"-6'3" QB's w/ athleticism dont grow on trees here? But if Litman or someone else steps up that would be great too. Or Turner. Whoever.

Btw, being the son of a long-time coach is a GOOD thing. Methinks we ought not to go there.

[tig62]

I attended quite a few JV games last year and IMHO Litman was the more effective QB. But who knows, one year could make a big difference. My expectation is that the best/dedicated players will be our starters, regardless of who's who.

[StayStrong]

I dont call outing a respected coach or player as "blatant politics" before the kid ever takes a varsity snap, a good post. And I'm surprised its allowed.

If I had a QB w/ his size & tools I would try to develop him as much as I could at the feeder levels too. But I have ZERO doubt the best QB will play no matter who it is.

Well, I feel the need to clarify my statements, because if my statements are able to be interpreted as outting anyone. If that was the case I would be equally guilty to contributing to the politics that I am complaining about. Perhaps I am too quick to pull the politics card but from the outside looking in. Seeing the numbers that are actually being produced by each young man, Politics seems to fit the bill as to why one would get the start more often yet be outproduced. But I am obviously not at practice and we all know that ones ability to produce in practice is what helps a coach shape his decision for game day.

So perhaps a better way of putting it is this. Size and athletisism can only be grown so far. As the same can be said for the growing of ones mental/leadership capabilities and passing quality. However it only makes sense to afford this kids the ability to work on their short comings. I would like to think that someone would work with Litman on his speed and power as much as they work on Partridges mechanics and position comprehension.

It's this type of mentorship that is going to allow for all players to become more competitive for positions and more comp. means better production and better production = W's.

I apologize for the miscommunication

[savage4president]

Is that legal?

Yes it is. Does not matter where you workout...only thing that matters is that there is no "under the table" deal going on to get him to work out there.

[Mass6]

I dont call outing a respected coach or player as "blatant politics" before the kid ever takes a varsity snap, a good post. And I'm surprised its allowed.

If I had a QB w/ his size & tools I would try to develop him as much as I could at the feeder levels too. But I have ZERO doubt the best QB will play no matter who it is.

Exactly my point. JV is much different then Varsity. But, from what is posted above, we may not be worrying about this at all.

[savage4president]

What exactly is a "wing t spread"?

It is the Wing-T offense run out of the spread formation. Alot of down blocks and Jet series type plays. Chardon runs it and runs it well. As boring as the Wing-T is to watch...when it is done correctly, it is an extremely effective offense. Ball Control, Clock Control, Keep the Defense off the field.

[Red50Go]

StayStrong, no problem. I mostly agree. But its like having a young 6'7" bball player, or 290# lineman. You go out of your way to develop them early on because of the potential, even though a 5'10 kid is a better center or blocker. Lets just hope BOTH get to compete for varsity next year. I haven't heard whether Mike Clark would be in the mix this year either. Sure would be nice to have all 3 ready. We'll see.

[Farmer Harold]

I heard they were moving JR Price to quarterback. We just need to find someone with a rocket laser arm with pinpoint accuracy and we will be fine.

[Tiger77]

It's JB Price and he did play quarterback at Longfellow and is capable. Clark is in the mix. Partridge is NOT going to Central and has NOT been working out with the Central team.

[mtownwr22]

Okay. First. Price is NOT moving to Quarterback. Thats is a false statement.

Second. Has everyone forgot about Tim Adkins? He will be ahead of Partridge and Litman on the Depth Chart. He has some size, speed, accuracy, good arm, smart, and a good leader. He was the Quarterback from L.A., Freshman, and J.V. till last year. Clark came and he got screwed out of some time. The true battle will be between Clark and Adkins.

Third. Partridge was highly considering Central Catholic. He visited there and was convinced that was his new home. Then as time went by his interest level dropped and its up in the air right now.

[OTC TIGER]

Robert Partridge will be playing for the Tigers...PERIOD

[TIGER27]

I'm sure coach Hall will make a better decision than the one we would.