View Full Version : Who's the parent here ???
The Voice
04-24-2008, 04:55 PM
A story out of Florida says a school dismissed a 7 year old because he had a colored mohawk. The mother says 'He likes his hair, and he should have the freedom to wear it that way.' The media is questioning who is right and who is wrong here.. Should the mother be allowed to do this in the name of freedom of expression.. Is the school to blame because they were trying to uphold a basic set of rules. I SAY THE MOTHER IS A WACK!!!!!! This is why this country is falling apart.. because li'l junior doesn't have to follow any guidelines or rules.. I SAY let the kid express himself outside of school, and FOLLOW THE FRIGGIN' RULES when he's in school. :wtf:
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TigerLily
04-24-2008, 05:24 PM
Amen -- I agree. This is getting RIDICULOUS!
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austinsm11
04-24-2008, 08:01 PM
This is why this country is falling apart.. because li'l junior doesn't have to follow any guidelines or rules.. I SAY let the kid express himself outside of school, and FOLLOW THE FRIGGIN' RULES when he's in school. :wtf:
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Exactly. Parents baby their kids too much. When we got in trouble at school, we didn't blame the teacher. It didn't matter what happened, you knew your parents would back the teacher.
howard roark
04-24-2008, 09:44 PM
:tounge:My kid can wear any kind of hairdo he wants .
From June until Sept:punk:
Then its back to reality
shortbev
04-24-2008, 10:37 PM
in the past 30+ years, too many parents quit being parents ...now, parents want to be their kid's friend..."oh, i might stunt little johnny's growth"..."it might scar him for life, if i tell him no about something"...what a crock!!!
sorry, mom and dad, that doesn't happen until they are out of the house and independent...then, you can be a "friend"...until then, the job is to raise and teach your child to be a responsible person and citizen of our great nation...that includes things like following the rules of one's school...
back in the cave days (according to my kids, was when i was in school) we had a certain dress code...and we didn't die...we might have tried to push the limits just a bit...but, we also knew our butts were in serious trouble when we did, not only with the administration, but with our parents...
today's dress code seems to be to the lowest denominator...how sloppy, how indecent, how skimpy, or how freaky it can be...this is just an example...what makes one think a mohawk is attractive in the first place??? and some of these other hairstyles, tattoes and body piercings...i am so sorry, people, i personally think it makes people look just plain nasty looking...(and in some cases, really scary)
if that makes me uncool...so be it...
Kamd50
04-25-2008, 12:28 AM
Ok, 7 years old is definately too young to be making these kind of decisions for himself. However, speaking to how kids/teens dress these days............skimpy/revealin = miniskirts, hatler tops, fishnet hose, go go boots, going braless back in the 60's and 70's............outrageous hairstyles = beehives, bangs in the eyes, longhairs like those disgusting Beatles again back in the 60's and 70's......screaming fainting girls along with screaming sacriligioius music from everything to Jerry Lee Lewis,and yes, even The King Elvis, the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, The Stones............or how about the jeans that everyone used to fray with their fingers at the bottom of the legs and all of the homemade patches and stitching that millions of us wore on our tattered jeans along with the good old shabby flannel shirts that were considered to be so outrageous and nasty/dirty at the time? lol Or the outrageous long dangly handmade earrings and leather chokers and hippie headbands from Quanset hut:gasp:
My parents hated ALL of it and yet they and my friends' parents let us all do it anyway, and we somehow turned out quite alright. :cool:
The Voice
04-25-2008, 09:00 AM
There's a difference though.. As much as we hated our parents, when all was said and done, the component of respect was still intact. It just seems that todays younger parents aren't instilling that basis respect for the rules foundation that every human being needs. (IMO)
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MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp
04-25-2008, 10:27 AM
That boy needed to be dismissed from school. Shame on the mother in all of this. And that kid shouldn't even be having colored hair in the first place.
monte81
04-25-2008, 10:58 AM
IMHO--- if the little 7 year old boy is doing nothing wrong IN SCHOOL and his hair is just bothering the admin and teachers than that is a personal problem. We in society have many, amny other problems to deal with pretaining to our youth that is should not be an issue. Kids bringing guns, knifes, drugs, etc,... to school throughout the Country and gang and bullying issues as well. not to mention our educational system is flawed and needs corrected to better teach our childern. Let's worry about Gpa's test scores, and properly educating our children before complaining about how a child wears his/her hair!!!!
MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp
04-25-2008, 11:09 AM
monte81,
Kids are making mistakes for stupid reasons that don't need to be made. Whether it be a 2nd grader drawing a picture of a gun or the things you mentioned, they shouldn't be doing it!
They need to be utilizing their time in the classroom rather than making the mistakes they are and COMPLY with school rules!!
If they say you can't color your hair, don't do it!
If they say don't draw a picture of a knife, gun, or whatever, don't do it!!
If they follow the rules, none of this would be going on!!!
A question for parents: If something like this happened to your child, how you deal with it and what stand would you take?
Mass6
04-25-2008, 11:46 AM
monte81,
Kids are making mistakes for stupid reasons that don't need to be made. Whether it be a 2nd grader drawing a picture of a gun or the things you mentioned, they shouldn't be doing it!
They need to be utilizing their time in the classroom rather than making the mistakes they are and COMPLY with school rules!!
If they say you can't color your hair, don't do it!
If they say don't draw a picture of a knife, gun, or whatever, don't do it!!
If they follow the rules, none of this would be going on!!!
A question for parents: If something like this happened to your child, how you deal with it and what stand would you take?
My kid won't have that kind of hair, period. You don't like it, tough. My house, my rules, my child. When your 18 and out of the house, do what you want. I'd be a little more lenient in the summer, like the poster said above, but rules are rules. The way your child acts is a direct reflection of you as a parent. My son may not like all the things I won't let him do, but he'll turn out good in the end!!
bs.gunn
04-25-2008, 12:23 PM
If the parents are OK with the kid having a mohawk and the kid wants a mohawk. Why is it any of the schools business? I seriously doubt that a mohawk will cause that much disruption in a class. If the school is going to start deciding what's OK for hair and what's not where does that end? It's not a private school and thusly I don't believe they have a leg to stand on here.
Must of what the folks in this thread have stated is that they wouldn't let their children do that during the school year. While admirable, why is it anyone's business what the parent/child do with their hair. I doubt it's harmful.
Must of the anti-authority young adults/teenagers from the 80/70's when mohawks were the anti-authority haircut are now parents. They were bucking the system then and they "in their opinion" may be helping to teach their children an important lesson. That there are far greater things in this world to worry about then a stupid looking haircut and fight conformists by, well, not conforming.
Is 7years old too young. How the hell should I know and why on earth does anyone care?
Smitty
04-25-2008, 02:08 PM
Having gone through all this with my own kids (esp. my daughter!), a few simple assumptions can be made:
1. A 7-year-old didn't do this himself; or drive to a barber shop / salon and pay for it either.
2. Once kids reach a certain age -- for some, it's 12, for others, it's 21-- they're gonna do what they're gonna do.
My daugher did the bright blue mohawk haircut at age 15. All by herself; she "borrowed" my electric hair clippers (I certainly didn't know about it, I was out of town!) and she bought the hair dye herself. She also managed to hide the haircut from mom for 3 days with a ski cap. (Mom is an idiot, and that made certain aspects of this way too easy for my daughter.... ) She also did a lot of her own body piercings, too; but we won't discuss THAT.
Indiana95
04-25-2008, 02:55 PM
monte81,
Kids are making mistakes for stupid reasons that don't need to be made. Whether it be a 2nd grader drawing a picture of a gun or the things you mentioned, they shouldn't be doing it!
They need to be utilizing their time in the classroom rather than making the mistakes they are and COMPLY with school rules!!
If they say you can't color your hair, don't do it!
If they say don't draw a picture of a knife, gun, or whatever, don't do it!!
If they follow the rules, none of this would be going on!!!
A question for parents: If something like this happened to your child, how you deal with it and what stand would you take?
AND, if they say I should sit in the back of the bus, I should do it.
AND, if they say I can't use certain water fountains, I should listen.
C'mon...
The Voice
04-25-2008, 03:03 PM
Lets not fly outta control here.. Back to the issue, Perhaps the mohawk isn't the issue, but the colored hair is... My point is; IF there are guidelines, then they should be followed..Perhaps if the child learns about respect for the rules at a younger age, he/she will not end up packing a piece to school and takin' out four teachers and a student and then lights up a butt cuz he REALLY doesn't care if you live or die..cuz, its all about HIM/HER and only him/her..Respect BEGINS at birth!
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Mass6
04-25-2008, 03:10 PM
Lets not fly outta control here.. Back to the issue, Perhaps the mohawk isn't the issue, but the colored hair is... My point is; IF there are guidelines, then they should be followed..Perhaps if the child learns about respect for the rules at a younger age, he/she will not end up packing a piece to school and takin' out four teachers and a student and then lights up a butt cuz he REALLY doesn't care if you live or die..cuz, its all about HIM/HER and only him/her..Respect BEGINS at birth!
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Exactly. Rules are rules. If you don't agree with the schools rules, remove your child from that school and put them in another.
MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp
04-25-2008, 03:24 PM
Great points and solutions by everyone :no1:!!!
Mass6,
Your son will turn out to be the best! He will be raised with the highest standards you have for him!
Because of dads like you along with other dads and mothers, that is why their children are turning out to have bright futures awaiting them. It starts at an early age and carries them throughout.
For example, Massillon Catholic has taught his son to accept Christ at an early age. He has done that. Add to the morals that he has instilled into him and he is a hard-working son who will do his dad proud as he grows.
The Voice,
Your post has pinpoint accuracy behind it. There are too many kids with that demeanor of "I don't have to respect you but you better respect me." That's not the way to go through life. Now there are some behavioral differences between youths that are obvious but the way those will be eliminated will be training them at an early age!
monte81
04-25-2008, 03:55 PM
Who cares what color the kids hair is anyway as long as he is not disruptive and his learning his coursework!!! The schools job is to educate to to determine what is and what is not a good/bad fashion statement.
Like i said we worry about the outside instead of whats in the inside! Teach the kids not be fashion ploice!!
This report came out on the C-bus a week or so ago---the report said the kid is one of the best students i the class!:help: That should be the school districts concern--preparing kids in education.
The 7 year old didn't disrespect anyone by having a red mohawk.
shortbev
04-25-2008, 04:17 PM
i agree that sometimes in society, we major on the minors (ie the haircut) while minoring on the majors (underage drinking, etc)...that there should be more constructive ways to teach a child about following rules than kicking them out of school...that should be the last resort...and really teaches them the least...true "discipline" is one that teaches a child two things: to think about what they did, helping them to make better choices in the future...and to respect those in places of authority (respecting the position, even if you aren't in wild about the person in that position)
however having said that
bottom line is this
the school has certain rules in place...rules that apply to all, not some
the haircut was against the rules...to disobey them, means disobedience and disrespect to those in position of authority...we are supposedly teaching the kids how to live in our society...while some of the consequences are small...why do you think some end up in prison??? they were never taught to respect their own parents, let alone any other authority figure...one cannot simply keep saying "the rules aren't fair, the kid has a right to express themselves...fill in the blank..." just because we disagree with the rules...
this mother did her son absolutely no favors by going against the rules and the school...
the reality of life is wherever we go, there are certain things we are expected to do to fit into the situation...to those of you who are management...how do you view employees who would show up dirty, smelly, and tattoed and pierced all over??? how do you view those who show up late, and never meet a deadline??? how fast is their butt out the door??? you expect your employees to present a certain appearance because they are representing the company...the rest of us...how would you feel if your doctor came in looking like someone from KISS or a punk rock band??? deep inside, we want someone who presents themselves professionally,...
guess what...this is when and where it starts...
That boy needed to be dismissed from school. Shame on the mother in all of this. And that kid shouldn't even be having colored hair in the first place.
Maybe it's an Easter Hair Hunt! LOL
shortbev
04-25-2008, 05:01 PM
so the kid is an "egg head"???
so the kid is an "egg head"???LOL!
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