It's Hall, No Surprises

[Die Hard Eric]

http://www.indeonline.com/breaking/x1135866264

[DaveDawg]

Let's see if I can do this with the rivalry in mind...

Welcome Jason Hall to Massillon Washington.

Glad to have you!
(He can't do better against my Bulldogs than that guy who was there before him.)

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[CATS44]

yes he could....lol.

Mather...6-0
Strang...6-0
Bruce....2-0

[DaveDawg]

yes he could....lol.

Mather...6-0
Strang...6-0
Bruce....2-0


You don't think I know??!!!


Canton McKinley vs Massillon Washington
Head Coaching records in 116 meetings of
"THE GAME"

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Canton McKinley coachesW-L-T.....Years/Head Coach
02-0-0.....1984- only, Jacob W. Schwingle
01-0-0.....1985- only, No Head Coach
02-0-0.....1900- only, W. John/W. Day/L. Day
02-0-0.....1903- only, March/Schiltz/W. Day/Cook
02-0-0.....1904- only, Strang/Kuhn/W&L Day/March
04-1-0.....1906-1908, Curtis T. Bowman
02-3-1.....1909-1915, Harry F. Hazlett
00-1-0.....1916- only, Harold E. Dunlap
00-2-0.....1917-1919, M. Channing Wagner
01-2-0.....1920-1922, Floyd Harshman
00-1-0.....1923- only, Hal R. Smith
03-3-1.....1924-1930, Dwight V. Peabody
00-1-0.....1931- only, Chuck Wright
03-1-0.....1932-1935, Jimmy Aiken
00-5-0.....1936-1940, John Reed
00-1-0.....1941- only, Ben Schwartzwalder
03-3-2.....1942-1949, Herman "Bup" Rearick
00-3-0.....1950-1952, Dick Miller
02-3-0.....1953-1957, Wade Watts
00-3-0.....1958-1960, Jim Robinson
00-2-0.....1961- only, Pete Ankney
00-2-0.....1963- only, Tony Ware
00-1-0.....1964- only, Don Nehlen
03-2-0.....1965-1969, Ron Chismar
02-8-0.....1970-1979, John Brideweser
02-1-0.....1980-1981, Terry Forbes
11-6-0.....1982-1997, Thom McDaniels
01-1-0.....1998-1999, Kerry Hodakievic
00-4-0.....2000-2002, John "Spider" Miller
03-3-0.....2003-2007, Brian Cross
00-0-0.....2008- only, Ron Johnson

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Massillon Washington coachesW-L-T.....Years/Head Coach
00-2-0.....1894- only, Kell
00-7-0.....1895-1904, no coach on record
00-2-0.....1906- only, Merwin
01-2-1.....1907-1908, Hall
02-0-0.....1909- only, Hap Fugate
00-1-1.....1912-1913, Sidney Jones
04-1-0.....1914-1919, John Snavely
00-1-0.....1920- only, Elmer Snyder
04-1-0.....1921-1925, Dave Stewart
00-1-1.....1926-1927, Dan Atkinson
03-1-0.....1928-1931, Elmer McGrew
06-3-0.....1932-1940, Paul Brown
01-0-0.....1941- only, Bud Houghton
01-2-0.....1942-1944, Elwood Kammer
00-0-1.....1945- only, Augie Morningstar
00-1-1.....1946-1947, Bud Houghton
06-0-0.....1948-1953, Chuck Mather
01-1-0.....1954-1955, Tom Harp
01-1-0.....1956-1957, Leo Tressel
06-0-0.....1958-1963, Leo Strang
02-0-0.....1964-1965, Earl Bruce
01-2-0.....1966-1968, Bob Seaman
03-2-0.....1969-1973, Bob Commings
01-1-0.....1974-1975, Chuck Shuff
07-3-0.....1976-1984, Mike Currence
00-3-0.....1985-1987, John Maronto
03-1-0.....1988-1991, Lee Owens
01-6-0.....1992-1997, Jack Rose
05-3-0.....1998-2004, Rick Shepas
03-1-0.....2005-2007, Tom Stacy
00-0-0.....2008- only, Jason Hall

[DE#53]

Where do you get that # from?

[DaveDawg]

Canton McKinley Bulldogs
35 Times State Champions and
34 Times State Runners Up

2006 - Boys Basketball
2005 - Boys Basketball
2004 - Football Runners Up
1998 - Football
1997 - Football (National Champion)
1997 - Boys Track and Field
1991 - Girls Volleyball
1987 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1987 - Girls Volleyball
1985 - Girls Volleyball Runners Up
1985 - Football Runners Up
1984 - Girls Basketball Runners Up
1984 - Girls Volleyball Runners Up
1984 - Boys Basketball
1983 - Girls Volleyball
1982 - Girls Volleyball Runners Up
1981 - Football
1977 - Football Runners Up
1974 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1968 - Football Runners Up
1966 - Swimming Runners Up
1964 - Football Runners Up
1961 - Swimming
1960 - Swimming
1959 - Swimming
1959 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1958 - Swimming
1957 - Swimming
1956 - Swimming
1956 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1956 - Football
1955 - Football
1952 - Swimming
1951 - Swimming
1949 - Swimming
1948 - Track and Field Runners Up
1948 - Football Runners Up
1947 - Swimming Runners Up
1946 - Swimming Runners Up
1945 - Swimming
1944 - Swimming Runners Up
1944 - Football
1943 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1943 - Golf
1942 - Swimming Runners Up
1942 - Football
1941 - Swimming Runners Up
1940 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1940 - Swimming
1939 - Baseball
1939 - Swimming
1938 - Baseball Runners Up
1938 - Swimming Runners Up
1938 - Football Runners Up
1937 - Football Runners Up
1937 - Baseball
1937 - Swimming
1936 - Football Runners Up
1934 - Football (National Champion)
1933 - Football Runners Up
1931 - Baseball Runners Up
1931 - Swimming Runners Up
1931 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1929 - Baseball Runners Up
1928 - Boys Basketball Runners Up
1927 - Football
1920 - Football
1896 - Football
1895 - Football

[EXECRATED]

Where do you get that # from?

Sorry you asked??? LOL

[DE#53]

I thought thats what the #35 was. Just don't let anyone call the football championships before 1970 as "mythical"! playoffs or no playoffs. Stark county has always had the best football and back in that erra whoever won the Massillon vs. McK. game probably was the best in the state.

[TigerVic]

DaveDawg,

I always wondered how the state champions of 1895 and 1896 were determined. I know there was "Popular Acclaim" in the 1900s, but didn't know there was anything at the "state" level in the 1800s. I know Massillon played only a couple games a year back then (beginning in 1894)- how many did Canton Central play?

[DaveDawg]

Canton (Central)
1895 (5-0-0) no coach on record

W.....20 - 00.......Picked Team
W.....06 - 00.......Massillon Washington
W.....44 - 00.......Akron High School
W.....12 - 00.......Alliance
W.....16 - 00.......at Alliance

The games vs Alliance were played on the same day, Alliance began the day taking the train to Canton,
played the game, then both teams took the train to Alliance, played another game,
and the Canton squad returned by train after winning both.
The only time In Bulldoog history to have two games played in one day.


1896 (5-0-3) William Day and Otto Glessen

.T.....04 - 04.......at Akron Gymnasium
.T.....00 - 00.......Mt. Union College
W.....50 - 00.......at Salem
W.....06 - 04.......at Mt. Union College
.T.....00 - 00.......at Massillon Athletic Club
W.....30 - 00.......at Millersburg
W.....30 - 00.......Akron Buchtel College
W.....18 - 00.......Massillon Athletic Club

Tiger Vic-
To call these two Canton teams state champions was determined by McKinley historian Charlie Bowersox and a group he met with (other members of a high school historians group). They believed that with only 4 or 5 high schools playing football in these two years, that with Canton finishing undefeated would qualify as naming those teams "state champions", so they did. It stuck many years ago.

[JakeGiant]

From what I heard, McKinley and Ross had quite the swimming rivalry back in the day.

I apologize polluting this thread by using swimming. :angel:

[TigerVic]

Canton (Central)
1895 (5-0-0) no coach on record

W.....20 - 00.......Picked Team
W.....06 - 00.......Massillon Washington
W.....44 - 00.......Akron High School
W.....12 - 00.......Alliance
W.....16 - 00.......at Alliance

The games vs Alliance were played on the same day, Alliance began the day taking the train to Canton,
played the game, then both teams took the train to Alliance, played another game,
and the Canton squad returned by train after winning both.
The only time In Bulldoog history to have two games played in one day.


1896 (5-0-3) William Day and Otto Glessen

.T.....04 - 04.......at Akron Gymnasium
.T.....00 - 00.......Mt. Union College
W.....50 - 00.......at Salem
W.....06 - 04.......at Mt. Union College
.T.....00 - 00.......at Massillon Athletic Club
W.....30 - 00.......at Millersburg
W.....30 - 00.......Akron Buchtel College
W.....18 - 00.......Massillon Athletic Club

Tiger Vic-
To call these two Canton teams state champions was determined by McKinley historian Charlie Bowersox and a group he met with (other members of a high school historians group). They believed that with only 4 or 5 high schools playing football in these two years, that with Canton finishing undefeated would qualify as naming those teams "state champions", so they did. It stuck many years ago.

Thank you, DaveDawg. Do you know who was named for other years by the committee?

Akron Buchtel College is now the University of Akron. I wonder if Heisman was still coach there when they played Canton Central?

[CATS44]

Heisman coached at Akron in 1893 and went 5-2.

He coached Akron in the first game of 1894 (a win), then jumped back to Oberlin, where he had begun his coaching career in 1892.

[DaveDawg]

Thank you, DaveDawg. Do you know who was named for other years by the committee?

I do not have that list, or do I know where it exists today.