Massillon Coaching Search...Canton Rep

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http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?Category=17&ID=403690&r=0&subCategoryID=29

[TigerVic]

I don't know why this is news-Turncoat Todd himself has begun his own private search for the position.

[massillon catholic]

I am convinced the committee will get Massillon the best available coach to straighten out the mess left by stacy. I also like the idea that they are going out seeking coaches.

[Fats]

I see nothing wrong with going after quality coaches. If a coach fits our criteria and has been successful. I see no reason not to pursue them.

[CATS44]

Lets see if I have this right.

We have charged five people with vast football experience, vast Massillon football experience...all of which are part of the upper level of the school system....with selecting the best coach available. Possibly, that selection process includes NOT sitting on their hands and waiting for elite coaches to apply, but instead doing due diligence in contacting some of those elite coaches to gauge their possible interest in the job. They are also possibly doing it in a way that allows those elite coaches to gauge our interest in them without upestting their present prgrams.

And some think this is a bad thing?

Successful businesses, successful college and professional sports programs, successful educational institutions, all search for elite personnel in their respective fields when they have an opening.

Search is not a passive verb. I sincerely HOPE that we arent using it as such.

[Purple Hayes]

Looks like a good process to me...

I certainly wouldn't want to broadcast to my CEO and my employees that I was looking to leave my organization, until that decision was final. The candidates that get contacted have no risk to at least listen and research the position a little further and see if there is a fit.

I think it's funny how the moron from the Rep is trying to insert himself into the process and is getting the door slammed shut in his face. He's PO'd because the only way he'll find out is through being part of the "coaching fraternity" (which he's not). :laughing:

Good luck to the Tigers in their search. It helps Stark County when both the Tigers and Bulldogs are strong and raises the bar for the other local schools.

[Rushfan]

I don't care how they do it,as long as they get a coach who will make Massillon a name to fear again instead of a laughing stock.

[massillon catholic]

The men on the committee represented Massillon very well. The Tiger faithful are going to love the next coach. Go Tigers

[massillon catholic]

Maybe its time we move forward and get excited about the new coach. We must not allow the past to poison our future. In other words, we cannot let bitterness take root.

[Obie Wan]

One major difference is that there seems to be an intrinsic honesty in the process this time. You may remember that the last time we went through this, it was portrayed as an open search in which all candidates would be given a fair hearing and evaluation.

Didn't work out that way, did it?

In any event, that doesn't matter now. With any luck, the detritus of the past is gone. We'll look forward to a new chapter in Massillon Tiger football. You can look forward to whatever it is you do in Canal Fulton.

[CATS44]

The is a huge difference between this search and the previous annointment of a buddy, made without ANY consideration of other options.

There is a huge difference between this committee, consisting entirely of people with a coaching background, and the previous group of so called fans.

m2m knows that, but refuses to ackowledge such facts...or else he is mentally challenged.

[SECTION13PBTS]

I to also agree that this committee will do a good job,but i still think you have to have some kind of deadline for hiring purposes. In my working world whenever we need to make hiring decisions there is always dates attached to them.I think the kids need to as soon as possible who their leader is going to be. I think the news article stated by the end of school year. I think that may be dragging on to long. Unless they have zeroed in on a few chosen coaches to be considered.

[Spark Bibo]

Maybe this new coach can actually win the state championship game in his first season instead of just getting us there!!!!

[CATS44]

Reading comprehension is a lost ability.

1) Mr Blosser has consistently stated that the hiring process will go thru Mr DiLoreto, the INCOMING Super.

2) The committee has come up with a wide ranging list of qualifications they will look for....and that list has been publicized.

3) There IS an application process. Every coach in Ohio knows the position is open, and if interested they may send an application or a letter of interest.

4) Coaches Belichick and Tressel were used as examples of certain possible situations that may, or may not, arise. If that flies over anybodys lowered cranium, thay cant be helped.

5) Apparently, some so called fans want us to put on an American Idol competition...lets call it American Coach...in which EVERY coach with an interest in the job can perform for us in the Lincoln Theater....and every dimwit in town (including MEEE) can register his/her vote by phone.

Personally, Id rather let real football people make a real football decision based upon real football reasons. Im willing to wager that the new coach, whomever he will be, will not be a long time personal chum of anybody in this town, unlike the last time.

[jayjay65]

Let's test your sack: who is that "one person"?

And let's test your knowledge: who will the next coach be?

OW - nice post!

I suspect you will get a name from GoodOlBoys as an answer to your first question but will get jack squat as an answer to your second. You see, it's in nobody's best interest to throw a name of who they think will be the preordained coach because, if they are wrong, their whole conspiracy theory falls to pieces. Then they'll have to face the inevitable scrutiny and ridicule that will follow and waste precious time double-speaking their way out of a documented post. Who needs THAT?! It's much better to stir the pot with unsubstantiated accusations and remain as vague as possible so that whatever happens, you can say 'I called it!"

I think Cats44 posted at some point earlier likening the Massillon head football coaching job to the H.S. equivalent of Notre Dame, Michigan and OSU (possibly some others but I can't recall them at the moment). None of the major NCAA programs post their coaching job openings, they ID the coaches they want to talk to and go get them. In addition, many posters on this forum consider the head coaching job at Massillon to be one of the top five H.S. coaching jobs in the state. Given that the cross town rival just completed an 'open search', I ask you, would you be happy if the final candidates were of similar caliber? Arguably, Canton McKinley's recent success on the field (via state championships) has been better than Massillon's so shouldn't the best candidates in the state have applied for that position? Why didn't they? One of the reasons MIGHT be that the best candidates PREFER a targeted search. Of course, guys like GoodOlBoys, heavily discount that possibility because it doesn't help their conspiracy theory.

I think Mr. Blosser made an excellent point in a recent article that alluded to the fact that as tight knit as the coaching community is, there isn't a coach worth their salt in the state that doesn't already know that Massillon is looking for a football coach - posted or unposted. So, to me, that argument doesn't hold much water. Maybe it prevents Joe Blow with a 33-37 record from applying because he doesn't think he stands a chance but it won't discourage a highly successful and competitive coach from throwing his hat in the ring.

[shortbev]

why is stacy at green??? because of his lack of true success...while with the tigers...it is a step back for him, many would say...coaching for massillon is a real pressure cooker job...don't think many could handle it...don't think he could either...

and let's be real...some people's gift lies beyond the high school age...some are meant to coach at the college level...and others may not...that doesn't necessarily mean they are terrible coaches, it just means they are able to work with one age group and not the other...

example:
i am a teacher...however, i know that i would never want to teach primary grades (other than what i do presently on a one to one basis)...those little people are like mini elephants...they never forget stuff...and their attention spans are tiny...i also know i wouldn't want to teach above 8th grade to 12th...too mouthy and too much attitude...i really enjoy working with students who struggle with school and i enjoy adult learners...does that make me a bad teacher??? no, it makes me a wise one...knowing where my niche is...

same things apply to pressure situations of life...like coaching at massillon

[CATS44]

I think that if you pooled them, the vast majority of Notre Dame fans would love to see their present coach move to a D2 school. :thumbsup:

But since ND was referenced, Gerry Faust left ND to take the Akron job. He didnt cut the mustard in South Bend, and took a job at a lower level of competition. I think Fausts situation is a more accurate analogy.

Of course, if we had done a real search the last time, we would have quite probably ended up with one of the top five coaches in the state. I think it is accurate to say that if such an opportunity presents itself this time, this committee was put in place to make sure that such a supreme mistake will not happen again.

[Seeker]

When making posts here, please stick to facts.

Repeating rumors and inuendo will not do our program any justice.

If you have "news" that you can't wait to share, please use the PM system and tell your friends about it.


Thanks!

[Obie Wan]

I think Mr. Blosser made an excellent point in a recent article that alluded to the fact that as tight knit as the coaching community is, there isn't a coach worth their salt in the state that doesn't already know that Massillon is looking for a football coach - posted or unposted.

Blosser has made a couple of other statements of note (and great amusement) lately. To wit:
- "I can't speculate as to how one should react to the statement of confirm or deny."
- "I know there is speculation the recommendation committee is directing a targeted search, and I can neither confirm nor deny that is happening."
- "I will not confirm or deny that this superintendent or the next superintendent is or is not recruiting the interest from selected potential candidates."

The fact that there is very little information coming out (either on or off the record) might be taken as a very good thing. It may show that this is a process that will be taken seriously and will not play out in the press. It may also show that are confident enough in their process that they do not need to prime the pump of public opinion before announcing their selection. In other words, the new coach will be more than able stand on his own merits.

We'll have plenty of time to rip this apart when it's all said and done if the choice warrants. Until that time, let these guys do their job without unfounded speculation about what they're doing and unsubstantiated rumor about who they may be talking to or about.

[monte81]

An open search will take away the great talent of coaches who will apply for the job. If I openly apply for a position with a company in competition with my current company that would be considered a TRADER in the minds of my superiors. A coach may wish to apply for the job but is discouraged by the process and his name blasted on every NEO newspaper to view openly.

An private search allows for confidentiality in all coaches who may have a interest in being the Massillon coach. This will open the floodgates for coaches throughout the Country who wish to coach one of the most storied and recognized HS football teams in the Nation.

I for one want the best possible coach for our program who will give us stability, structure, discipline, and some victories accounting for more than 6 wins a season!

I am excited at the thought of a NEW ERA, new buildings, a great program history, and bright future. I know the 2008 tigers should and better be pumped right now going into the new Massillon football era. New talent can emerge and be noticed, starting positions openly up for grabs----we some kids who will take full advantage of this situation and that can only make us a better program in the long run!

[massillon catholic]

Each member of the committee should be commended for their hard work and dedication to the process.

[Kenny M.]

It sounds like the powers-that-be finally got it right! I remember a wise old Tiger booster saying that the Massillon AD should always have three to four names of possible head coaches in his top desk drawer at all times -- and that a Massillon head coaching search should never be made public for the reasons already mentioned above.

It's clear that the search for the last Massillon HC position was mishandled -- scaring off any interested/qualified applicants. Who knows? Maybe that's the way AH wanted it!

[Obie Wan]

It's clear that the search for the last Massillon HC position was mishandled -- scaring off any interested/qualified applicants. Who knows? Maybe that's the way AH wanted it!
They got one anyway, though, didn't they? Ya gotta think that those calling the shots almost loaded their pants when that happened. But hey -- they recovered in time to summarily piss all over him. Don't think that wasn't noticed around the state.

That last coaching search was truly one of the darkest episodes in the last 75 years of Massillon football. Those responsible should be permanently exorcised from any involvement with the program in any capacity.

[massillon catholic]

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wish only the best for Coach Stacy, and hope that he turns Green into a 'forceful' Stark County contenter.
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I believe that Green is in summit county.

[Banks]

It sounds like the powers-that-be finally got it right! I remember a wise old Tiger booster saying that the Massillon AD should always have three to four names of possible head coaches in his top desk drawer at all times -- and that a Massillon head coaching search should never be made public for the reasons already mentioned above.


So you are saying up until Tim Rigley all the other AD's should have 3 or 4 names of guys to replace them?

[CATS44]

Unlikely that most previous ADs had such a list, since they were also the head coach...lol.

But there were football people who did have such a list.

[Banks]

Unlikely that most previous ADs had such a list, since they were also the head coach...lol.

But there were football people who did have such a list.


Just my point!

[The Butler]

Todd Porter has the actual score sheets that will be used in the coaching search in a recent blog.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=781

[DAWGH8R]

I believe that Green is in summit county.

OOPS !!!

[Purple Hayes]

Nice article on Jason Hall. I'm surprised noone has posted this yet.

http://www.indeonline.com/sports/x513691244

[massillon catholic]

I trust the committee will select the right coach and makes us all proud.

[CATS44]

Many are called.

Few are chosen.

[Kramerica]

Do whatever it takes to get Coldwaters coach!!! Get him out of our league PLEASE!!!!

[Banks]

Do whatever it takes to get Coldwaters coach!!! Get him out of our league PLEASE!!!!

Isn't he close to retirement age ?

[tigerjoe]

Purrfect.. he gets the job for 4-5 yrs then you can get your more seasoned, and successful (by then) former Tiger player as coach...:scratchchin:

[massillon catholic]

The committee comprised of Mr. Ridgley, Mr. Babics, Mr. DiLoretto, Mr. Daniels and I'm forgetting one. Has to be considered one of the best committee's ever put together for a coaching search. I'm sure these men will search and hire the best coach for the Massillon job. Where is my season-ticket order form, Im ready for some football!

[LLRose]

For the record, I'm thrilled with the current search process. Reach out to top coaches and measure their interest with out compromising the coach's current employment.

Has anyone heard what the Massillon City Schools Teachers or Teachers Union feel about this process?

[Obie Wan]

Has anyone heard what the Massillon City Schools Teachers or Teachers Union feel about this process?
Who cares?

[LLRose]

Who cares?

I do.

[CATS44]

The new coach will be an administrator, not part of the teachers union.

[fellowship]

I hope the new coach has some new rules. For example if you are late for practice , you will be on the bench for the game. If you are in jail, do not plan on getting out in time to play in a game even if it is the McKinley game. Everyone will be treated fairly whether you are a star or a fourth stringer. I think this was part of the problem this year. The "star" was getting away with too much. Also parents need to keep a tighter leash on their children.

[massillon catholic]

I hope the new coach has some new rules. For example if you are late for practice , you will be on the bench for the game. If you are in jail, do not plan on getting out in time to play in a game even if it is the McKinley game. Everyone will be treated fairly whether you are a star or a fourth stringer. I think this was part of the problem this year. The "star" was getting away with too much. Also parents need to keep a tighter leash on their children.


And, dont forget a "playbook"

[CATS44]

I dont care much about the playbook.

If you have discipline on and off the field, if you design and implement a thorough year round training program, if your kids are fundamentally sound from seventh grade up...if they can block, tackle, run, throw, catch, and kick......the playbook becomes secondary.

Fundamentals beat play calling every day of the week and twice on Fridays.

[monte81]

I dont care much about the playbook.

If you have discipline on and off the field, if you design and implement a thorough year round training program, if your kids are fundamentally sound from seventh grade up...if they can block, tackle, run, throw, catch, and kick......the playbook becomes secondary.

Fundamentals beat play calling every day of the week and twice on Fridays.


I agree. A coach must implement his system throughout the program BOTTOM--UP, Starting at the Boys and Girls club teams.

[Class89]

I hope the new coach has some new rules. For example if you are late for practice , you will be on the bench for the game. If you are in jail, do not plan on getting out in time to play in a game even if it is the McKinley game. Everyone will be treated fairly whether you are a star or a fourth stringer. I think this was part of the problem this year. The "star" was getting away with too much. Also parents need to keep a tighter leash on their children.

I hope whoever is the next coach will make it known to the kids that playing football, especially in Massillon, is a PRIVILEGE and not a right. I don't think any football fan in their right mind would have disagreed with a coach's decision to kick a player off the team for insubordination or breaking rules to the point of committing a crime. I am very skeptical that during the football season, somebody didn't know that DeVoe was being investigated. Of course, if a kid were to be suspended from the team while being investigated, I can already hear some people (parents) crying about due process.

[massillon catholic]

I hope whoever is the next coach will make it known to the kids that playing football, especially in Massillon, is a PRIVILEGE and not a right. I don't think any football fan in their right mind would have disagreed with a coach's decision to kick a player off the team for insubordination or breaking rules to the point of committing a crime. I am very skeptical that during the football season, somebody didn't know that DeVoe was being investigated. Of course, if a kid were to be suspended from the team while being investigated, I can already hear some people (parents) crying about due process.


The players and the parents sign a code of conduct agreement before the season starts. This was a no-brainer, he should have been kicked off the team in July.

[CATS44]

Before laying all the discipline problems on the coach, it is instructive to remember that we had a disciplinarian apply and interview the last time, and that 'committee' didnt want to hear about it.

Discipline, the 'my way or the highway' kind, only works for the coach, IF he is thinking long term, because enforcement of rules can lead to losses in the short term.

Discipline, good or bad, filters down from above....from what happens at the varsity level clear down to the middle school.

A coach who is only planning on being here long enough to acquire a good win-loss record for his resume isnt going to be as willing to eliminate varsity miscreants that can help him win games now. He wont care much about the effects his loose policies have on kids he will never coach.

Do we really want to have discipline? If we do, we want a coach whose career goal is being the coach of the Massillon Tigers.

[Broder]

Before laying all the discipline problems on the coach, it is instructive to remember that we had a disciplinarian apply and interview the last time, and that 'committee' didnt want to hear about it.

Discipline, the 'my way or the highway' kind, only works for the coach, IF he is thinking long term, because enforcement of rules can lead to losses in the short term.

Discipline, good or bad, filters down from above....from what happens at the varsity level clear down to the middle school.

A coach who is only planning on being here long enough to acquire a good win-loss record for his resume isnt going to be as willing to eliminate varsity miscreants that can help him win games now. He wont care much about the effects his loose policies have on kids he will never coach.

Do we really want to have discipline? If we do, we want a coach whose career goal is being the coach of the Massillon Tigers.

I agree 100%. If we really want discipline...consistency will follow. Discipline doesn't always equate into wins & loses...in the short run. If the only reason a coach is here is to build a resume he won't care about discipline. As CATS points out, if a coach only wants to be here a short period of time, he won't care what happens at the middle school level. That includes discipline and player development.

We really need a coach who's goal is to be THE Head Coach of the Massillon Tigers...not just A Head Coach of the Massillon Tigers. We need someone that will build throughout the program...not just at the varsity level. There are very successful coaches out there and building throughout their programs is why they are successful.

I believe the committee we have in place will find a coach that will build our program. Someone who is not afraid to stand up and throw someone off the team if he breaks team rules. Someone who will be committed to Massillon and Massillon Tiger football. Someone who does or will love all that Massillon stands for and not just use the program as a stepping stone. I really think it is time to suck it up and find a coach that wants to be here for the long haul and build from the ground up. Not just for the wins and loses and resume building to help himself find a better job.

[Class89]

Before laying all the discipline problems on the coach, it is instructive to remember that we had a disciplinarian apply and interview the last time, and that 'committee' didnt want to hear about it.

Discipline, the 'my way or the highway' kind, only works for the coach, IF he is thinking long term, because enforcement of rules can lead to losses in the short term.

Discipline, good or bad, filters down from above....from what happens at the varsity level clear down to the middle school.

A coach who is only planning on being here long enough to acquire a good win-loss record for his resume isnt going to be as willing to eliminate varsity miscreants that can help him win games now. He wont care much about the effects his loose policies have on kids he will never coach.

Do we really want to have discipline? If we do, we want a coach whose career goal is being the coach of the Massillon Tigers.

CATS...While I agree that we need someone to make Massillon a long-term job and not a short-term position, discipline shouldn't be left out of the equation no matter what the coach's career goals are.

I didn't know that someone who was discipline-minded applied last time and the committee didn't care for that candidate. I think the Torrence situation should be proof enough to the committee that we need some values and discipline in the program. This is a black eye to the program. Torrence should not have been playing. He did enough damage off the field and his me-first attitude destroyed team morale.

[DE#53]

Whoever the next coach is I would like to see some things change when he gets here. Lets just let the man do his job! I'm tired of the few bad eggs in town shooting their mouths off about the coach every time we loose a game. Calling the coaches house or standing up at a booster club meeting and asking stupid questions and stuff like is just wrong! Most of the time the people who do this stuff never played football or blew a whistle on a practice field. In my opinion if you haven't done either one of those things your not qualified to ridicule the coach because you don't know the game well enough! I've done both in this town and I would never do that stuff. I respect the job he has to do. It's a very difficult job in so many ways.

He has so many clubs, organizations, t.v. commitments, dinners, etc... taking up his time. There are so many people wanting their hands in the mix that I think it's time to consider possibly cutting some of it out! He's hear to COACH, period. We can't keep running a guy out of town every 3-4 years. We need to build the program from the youth leagues up. That takes time. Football is the most complex game and the kids need time to learn the system while coming up thru midget league and Jr. High then by the time they get to the High School they know the base of the offense and defense and by then the coaches can make coaching adjustments "on the run" and be able to "tweek" things and fine tune. We'll never get there when we keep changing systems every time we hit a bump in the road.

Stop and think. Coaches talk to one another. Any good prospective coach interested in the job is going to ask what it's like to be head coach in Massillon. I'm sure the past several coaches that have been here would have some negative things to say about it and warn them what they are getting into. So if we really want this to continue to be a "coveted" job then lets guard against the negative stuff and find a better way to handle our issues. Massillon Aways!

[Red50Go]

Well said! And at least this time, we are actually seeking someone who wants to stay, and develop the youth program, (long term stuff etc). It sure pays to have the right people and right process in place.

As far as armchair coaches, I wholeheartedly agree and hopefully we minimize that, but winning is important and the pressure is a given.

[MACster]

Do whatever it takes to get Coldwaters coach!!! Get him out of our league PLEASE!!!!

Why do you want him out of the M.A.C.? And it doesn't look like it is your league due to living in Toledo.

[Kramerica]

Because I went to St. Henry and Coldwater has given us a beatdown every year since Reed arrived. I'm tired of losing to Coldwater every year! The guy is an offensive genius!

[MACster]

Because I went to St. Henry and Coldwater has given us a beatdown every year since Reed arrived. I'm tired of losing to Coldwater every year! The guy is an offensive genius!

Even if Reed would leave Coldwater, the beatdowns would still continue! :tounge:

[SuperBran]

Because I went to St. Henry and Coldwater has given us a beatdown every year since Reed arrived.

it's really odd to hear the words "st. henry," "beatdown," and "every year" in the same sentence. i remember when st. henry would dominate every year.

[Kramerica]

That hurts MACster!

[Seeker]

You guys are certainly welcome here, but I find it amusing that we have MAC guys exchanging barbs on TTT here in Massillon.

:love:

[Broder]

You guys are certainly welcome here, but I find it amusing that we have MAC guys exchanging barbs on TTT here in Massillon.

:love:


Seeker....they only want to be more informed about what is going on with our coaching search. They want to be part of the "Heartbeat".

LITTLE DO THEY KNOW...with the committee being so secretive, they could probably let us in on some news.

[excoach]

New coach will be named tomorrow AS POSTED ON JJ HUDDLE

[ChronicTiger]

New coach will be named tomorrow AS POSTED ON JJ HUDDLE

:eek:

[SuperBran]

:eek:

:iagree:

[excoach]

My bad it was on yappi the poster listed Jason Hall From Nordonia

[SuperBran]

My bad it was on yappi the poster listed Jason Hall From Nordonia

i checked jjhuddle and there is someone on there saying that there talk of reed being hired.

oh the suspense.

[CarlE]

My bad it was on yappi the poster listed Jason Hall From Nordonia

He's wrong.

[Obie Wan]

New coach will be named tomorrow AS POSTED ON JJ HUDDLE
Now there's an unimpeachable source for ya. :rolleyes:

i checked jjhuddle and there is someone on there saying that there talk of reed being hired.
which makes 3 or 4 guys who have been hired.

we're gonna have a hell of a staff with all these guys on the sidelines. i mean, can you imagine reed and farrah and hall and whomever else all here at the same time? it's gotta be the best coaching staff in the state.

[CarlE]

Now there's an unimpeachable source for ya. :rolleyes:


which makes 3 or 4 guys who have been hired.

we're gonna have a hell of a staff with all these guys on the sidelines. i mean, can you imagine reed and farrah and hall and whomever else all here at the same time? it's gotta be the best coaching staff in the state.

Shhh. If they read you posting about them, they'll probably withdraw from consideration.
:doh2:

[The Butler]

we're gonna have a hell of a staff with all these guys on the sidelines. i mean, can you imagine reed and farrah and hall and whomever else all here at the same time? it's gotta be the best coaching staff in the state.

Not to mention one giant headset. :hyper:

[The Butler]

It appears that the "shut-ins" are gathering material for Todd Porter.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=845

[TigerCoach]

My inside sources tell me the new coach is....................:wow:

[proud to be]

It appears that the "shut-ins" are gathering material for Todd Porter.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=845

I love how you go to this link, click on the "Hamilton" Tiger and POOF

You're back at MP!!!!

Todd knows where to go to get his info.....

[Seeker]

It appears that the "shut-ins" are gathering material for Todd Porter.

http://www.cantonrep.com/blogs/?p=845

My guess is that he's throwing all that pure BS speculation out there just to get a reaction from us.

Let's not give it to him...at least not a real one.

(My God, he really IS clueless. I believe you guys now.)

:pimp:

[austinsm11]

I heard McDaniels is the next coach.

(not really, just wanted to see if I could make it into a TP article or blog)

[Seeker]

One more thought...The disinformation system has worked quite nicely thus far!

:gogogo:

[ChronicTiger]

I saw Rick Shepas driving around town going to open houses......

:scratchchin:

[Seeker]

I saw Rick Shepas driving around town going to open houses......

:scratchchin:

I wonder why.
We no longer require that a coach live here.

We thought we did, but we were not sure.

:thumbsup:

[Kenny M.]

TP is probably afraid of being scooped -- which is why he's floating Internet Web site rumors from so-called "shut ins" so he won't look completely foolish and out of the loop if/when the coach is announced! It's called CYA.

[Seeker]

TP is probably afraid of being scooped -- which is why he's floating Internet Web site rumors from so-called "shut ins" so he won't look completely foolish and out of the loop if/when the coach is announced! It's called CYA.

That's funny.
He's already been scooped, and apparently doesn't even know it.
That's even worse.

Maybe he should spend less time reading web forums and more time on more traditional reporters' methods.

:huh:

[Broder]

^^^^^That wouldn't work. TP would have to use facts for his reporting then. How novel would that be.

[TigerLily]

And…they say women gossip… http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1100.gifhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_3v.gif

[DAWGH8R]

There was a reason that young Ben McDaniels didn't make a stab at the McKinley job. Looks like his patience paid off !! Please welcome the 2008 new Massillon Tigers Head Coach Ben McDaniels. He will certainly be able to develope our upcoming QB's.

Also hear that he has a few 'tag-a-longs' that could show up. He's always wanted to "Coach against Dad", so maybe if Jackson can make the playoffs, his dream could become a reality.

Congrats to the 'search committee' for a fine selection.

PS. Hope he doesn't have one of those Bulldog tattoos !!

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[LLRose]

He's wrong.

CarlE is on the money.

[Seeker]

CarlE is on the money.

No doubt, but just wait until I get my hands on the guy that told him about Garcia...

[reofan82]

Jason Hall is the next coach.

[CarlE]

Jason Hall is the next coach.

Bet?

[Attack From Mars]

Bet?

I hope you are right. While he may be a fine coach, his track record says he wouldn't be here long.

[Kamd50]

Well, which is it if he knows so much?

The guy from Nordonia? The guy from Maria Stein?

Or the guy from Louisville?

Perhaps the guy from St X or the guy from Maple Heights?

Or the guy from Coldwater or St Henry or from Eastern Michigan?

LOL!!!

[GoodOlBoys]

Well, which is it if he knows so much?

The guy from Nordonia? The guy from Maria Stein?

Or the guy from Louisville?

Perhaps the guy from St X or the guy from Maple Heights?

Or the guy from Coldwater or St Henry or from Eastern Michigan?

Jeez...at least I have it down to 2...what else can you ask for? There has to be a little drama right?

Louisville is out...never heard of coaches from St. X. Maple, St. H, or Eastern Michigan being interested....Coldwater...doesn't make sense...he is at the "end of the road".

[CATS44]

Fair enough.

I would be very happy with Coach Goodwin from Marion Local.

(Maria Stein)

[Broder]

I have heard...from a very reliable source...the next coach will be....100%...the one the Recomendation Committee choses and he will be from where he now resides and coaches. This has been one of the best committee's in a long time. They have stuck to their guns and will let us know when, and only when, they decide.

I believe there are 5 good choices out there and the committee has contacted all of them, contrary to what TP says, and they will make the best choice for Massillon Tiger Football...at this time.

I have no doubt we will be very happy with their selection.

[ChronicTiger]

he will be from where he now resides and coaches

:huh:

[CarlE]

No doubt, but just wait until I get my hands on the guy that told him about Garcia...

THAT was funny.

[tigerfred]

I think that if you pooled them, the vast majority of Notre Dame fans would love to see their present coach move to a D2 school. :thumbsup:

But since ND was referenced, Gerry Faust left ND to take the Akron job. He didnt cut the mustard in South Bend, and took a job at a lower level of competition. I think Fausts situation is a more accurate analogy.

Of course, if we had done a real search the last time, we would have quite probably ended up with one of the top five coaches in the state. I think it is accurate to say that if such an opportunity presents itself this time, this committee was put in place to make sure that such a supreme mistake will not happen again.
Just for the record, who were the top 5 coaches in the state at that time??

[CATS44]

IMO...

1) Saccoccia
2) Reed
3) Niswonger
4) Goodwin
5) McDaniels

But I wasnt referring to McD.

[Seeker]

Soooo....
You guys all planning on hanging outside the BOE meeting tonight to see if a window opens and a puff of white smoke comes out?

:angel:

[CATS44]

Fiction.

[Obie Wan]

It seems to me that the current search committee has a number of 'football guys' on it and has been free of the meddlers that are disdained by many posters. As an added bonus, it's served to frustrate TP as he is having a difficult time getting any scoop - which should also please many on this board.
IMHO, this should be somewhat compelling evidence that things are quite a bit different this time. We all know that Porter had inside sources on speed dial last time; the fact that those lines have been disconnected should be comforting to anyone who wants the greatest possible chance for the best possible outcome.

As an aside, it also seems that most of the "inside sources" in town are in the dark also. The usual gossips don't seem to have much idea about what's going on, either. This is, on more than one level, very good news indeed.

Lets hope that getting the process right serves us with a just reward.

[Obie Wan]

Obviously you have an opinion as to who I'm talking about. My opinions are my own, and I could care less if you or anyone else agrees. I believe what I believe, for some specific reasons, and if you don't agree..... that's OK with me.
It's not really a matter of what you believe -- it's a matter of what you allege. Why are we supposed to believe you? Why are we supposed to place any credibility in what you're saying? Why would we? You haven't given a shred of evidence to support your position. Hell, you haven't even made a specific charge on which to hang your hat -- all you've got are the same hackneyed charges of the nameless puppet master, and we've heard it all before.

If you want to believe that it is so, more power to you. You can form your beliefs based on the evidence that you possess, on the rumors you have heard, or even the Magic 8-ball. However, there's no reason to expect for the other posters on the board to abdicate intellectual involvement to the standards that you set. Your assertions aren't enough - if you expect for others to align with you, you need to provide the evidence that compels that conclusion, or (quite rightly) be dismissed out of hand.

The crux of it is that you've made a potentially damaging allegation that disparages the credibility and honesty of several members of the community -- and you've done so without offering even a fraction of the proof needed to validate your claim.

If you want to be taken seriously, you've got be willing to rise to serious discussion, with all the obligations that entails. And if you don't care about getting reasoned consideration for what you post, then what's the point of spewing it out in the first place?

[GoodOlBoys]

The search commitee is all for show....

One man is making this decision, and he aint on the "search commitee"

You are so on the money!! I will tell you this...and I will take bets from anyone here. I am not a part of the "selection group"..but I already know that Jason Hall will be the next coach...he was offered the job...and now we wait. He has been the main guy of this "one man commitee" the whole time. I hope this post doesn't get deleted...because it is 100% true...and like I said...I will take any bet!

[jayjay65]

It's not really a matter of what you believe -- it's a matter of what you allege. Why are we supposed to believe you? Why are we supposed to place any credibility in what you're saying? Why would we? You haven't given a shred of evidence to support your position. Hell, you haven't even made a specific charge on which to hang your hat -- all you've got are the same hackneyed charges of the nameless puppet master, and we've heard it all before.

If you want to believe that it is so, more power to you. You can form your beliefs based on the evidence that you possess, on the rumors you have heard, or even the Magic 8-ball. However, there's no reason to expect for the other posters on the board to abdicate intellectual involvement to the standards that you set. Your assertions aren't enough - if you expect for others to align with you, you need to provide the evidence that compels that conclusion, or (quite rightly) be dismissed out of hand.

The crux of it is that you've made a potentially damaging allegation that disparages the credibility and honesty of several members of the community -- and you've done so without offering even a fraction of the proof needed to validate your claim.

If you want to be taken seriously, you've got be willing to rise to serious discussion, with all the obligations that entails. And if you don't care about getting reasoned consideration for what you post, then what's the point of spewing it out in the first place?

Obie-Wan:

GREAT POST! I couldn't have said it better myself. I guess we both have our heads in the sand then...

[Obie Wan]

he was offered the job
By whom?

He has been the main guy of this "one man commitee" the whole time.
Who is this "one man committee"?