Hamilton falls despite effort

[DB135]

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/preps/articles/0917hamilton0917.html

Jason P. Skoda
The Arizona Republic
Sept. 17, 2006 12:00 AM


MASSILLON, Ohio - There will be many lasting images from Chandler Hamilton's excursion east for the Kirk Herbstreit Ohio vs. USA Challenge. The massive Paul Brown Tiger Stadium, Obie the tiger cub on the sidelines and Hamilton players taking the field to fireworks and a standing ovation top the list.

None of it, however, was more prudent than the image of the shoe at the 26-yard line and the yellow flag lying next to it.

It was the not-so-subtle indicator that Hamilton was not going to cave into the dominance of Midwest power football. Massillon (Ohio) Washington High won the game 35-26, but it wasn't because Washington overpowered Hamilton.

Washington played a pretty clean game, but the Huskies left their 'A' game somewhere in baggage claim at Cleveland International Airport.

"That wasn't the problem for us," Hamilton coach Steve Belles said. "We played right with them physically. The better team won. They took advantage of the breaks. We didn't."

There were several swing plays that changed the game, starting just before halftime when Washington scored with 15 second remaining to close within 17-14.

Before that it was all about the aforementioned footwear.

Hamilton took over on its 20 with 7:35 left in the second quarter .

Hamilton's Nathan Jeffery broke through the line on the first play, was nearly tackled by his facemask and lost his shoe in the process but managed to stay on his feet. Jeffery kept running, spun to his left and finished off the 80-yard score to extend Hamilton's lead to 17-7 with 7:22 remaining in the second quarter.

"That was the big play we needed," said Hamilton receiver Kerry Taylor, who finished with 11 catches for 181 yards. "Other than that we didn't capitalize when we had the chance."

At that point, it appeared the Huskies were going to be in position to beat one of the most storied Ohio football programs, but a rash of miscues changed the outcome.

Hamilton took possession on its 14 with 1:38 remaining in the first half and a 10-point lead in front of 15,000 fans. Brad Gruner had a pass intercepted by game MVP Brian Gamble, who returned the ball to the Hamilton 20 and caught a touchdown pass from Brian Huth to close to score to 17-14.

"Yeah, I'd take that one back," Gruner said. "There were several tonight but that was the main one. That turned the game around and obviously gave them momentum in the second half. It paid off for them."

The third quarter started with another mistake when Gruner lost the exchange from center and Washington's Emery Saunders recovered at the Hamilton 45. Huth connected with Bryan Sheegog for a 29-yard score and Washington took its first lead since its opening drive of the game.

Despite Hamilton's loss, the Ohio hosts were impressed.

"Let me tell you, they hit," Gamble said. "They are right up there with St. Ignatius (Cleveland), Elder (Cincinnati) and Glenville (Cleveland). They're tough."

[obie0130]

i thought we certainly DID overpower them. we were able to wear them down in the second half. not to mention some of the monster hits our kids laid on them. i don't think the guy who wrote this was at the game. :cool2:

[DAWGH8R]

They had a VERY talented team !!! They were OUTCOACHED !!!!

Plain and simple. I would love to coach all of that talent. No wonder they are unbeatable in AZ !! TOUGH TEAM!! Speed kills!:afro:

[Serby]

Man that was a sweet game it kept me on my toes the whole time.
Plain and simple I think we just wore down there D. Our tigers stepped up and got the job done.

[ChronicTiger]

They had a VERY talented team !!! They were OUTCOACHED !!!!

Plain and simple. I would love to coach all of that talent. No wonder they are unbeatable in AZ !! TOUGH TEAM!! Speed kills!:afro:

I agree. Our coaching staff called a great game. A couple mental errors by the hamilton staff.

Our D was awesome last night!

[austinsm11]

Didn't seem like he gave Massillon enough credit. That was a huge defensive stand in the first half after we fumbled the punt. I have a feeling things are different if they punch in a touchdown. That was the biggest "swing" play in my opinion.

[oldtimer]

Their coach DID seem to make the calls that got us back in the game, not to mention going for 2 on the last td, failing, and leaving the margin 9. I was really impressed by the Huskies talent. They had at least the talent that Moe had, though not Moe's depth. Most of all, I think the Tigers finally came together as a team, the d held Hamilton to 2 field goals when they were in incredible field position. The o line was able to give Huth time in the second half, and best of all, punt coverage was superb!!!! The only question remaining is, can the Tigers do as well every game the rest of the year? The talent is there, the desire is there, we still need to learn every week, get at least a bit better each game. The band was, as usual, excellent, very enthusiastic, very entertaining! Hamilton's band was very good, a real showcase! But I'm old-school, I love the Tiger Swing Band! Go Tigers! Beat Mentor!

[1600TigerFan]

I agree Obie0130, those long drives of HB Counter and FB Dive combos wore them down and our playmakers (Gamble & Dailey) stepped it up and took away any hope Hamilton had at the exact key moments. I think Trey Miller was our unsung hero of the game for his work at DB all night, that is probably the best WR we will see all year.

[tiger51]

yes....great game...I agree that the article didn't give us enough credit....but O WELL...we should be use to that...It was a great win...BUT GUESS WHAT...we have to move on....just like last week.....we can remember how great that was at the end of the season....We have another great team (IMO DOESN'T HAVE AS MUCH TALENT) but still a great team in Mentor so we have to refocus.....GO TIGERS

[wa_tigerfan]

This AZ team had mad speed. We saw that on their first play for the line. Their WR was outstanding last night. Our big play makers on the team made the big plays when needed last night. Gamble was a beast, Huth and his outstanding arm, and Dailey punishing their offense. Truthfully, every player on both teams gave it their all. You couldn't of asked for a better game last night. Mad props to Hamilton. You guys were awesome last night. Tigers, you showed the nation what smash mouth midwest football is all about.

Awesome win!!!

[FENTON 57]

I know it seemed like Hamilton blitzed #9 on every play from the outside........Nice job of the Tiger coaches to make some adjustments and run some trap plays to kick him outside as we ran up the middle.......


I also liked Coach Stacys' patience on the play calling to keep running the ball up the middle while we were down 17-7...That helped Huth have a great game....Some coaches would have started launching the ball into the air.....There was a good variety of plays coming from the sideline and the kids did a great job of executing them

[Fats]

Make sure you follow the link. They have some great pictures and a story about ref from az that did the first game at PBTS orginally from ohio.
GO TIGERS

[Arizona Grizzlie]

Congratulations from Arizona. To play the tigers itself is an honor but to quote Gamble "Let me tell you, they hit," Gamble said. "They are right up there with St. Ignatius (Cleveland), Elder (Cincinnati) and Glenville (Cleveland). They're tough” is amazing! Way to go Massillon and Hamilton. Wish I could have been there. I sure hope the Tigers get to come to Arizona some time. I will surely be there and of course, I will be cheering the Tigers on! :gotigers:

[Banks]

Despite Hamilton's loss, the Ohio hosts were impressed.

"Let me tell you, they hit," Gamble said. "They are right up there with St. Ignatius (Cleveland), Elder (Cincinnati) and Glenville (Cleveland). They're tough."

When did Gamble get hit by anyone from Glenville?

[austinsm11]

I thought I heard this somewhere and I don't know where. I thought someone said that their receiver was related to John Taylor from the 49ers. Just wondered if it was true.

[chumly]

I really believe we had the speed at the skill positions to match them and that was good for us, like Gamble coming from nowhere and running that guy down to prevent a TD.

After that first TD by Taylor (sorry, but that little Ginn, Jr.-type move on #7 was very nice), he didn't get past our defenders all night - he's D1 and showed with that first TD and some nice catches after that, but Trey Miller and the other DB's also did a great job after that. Taylor got a handful of his catches on their last drive when we seemed to be in "prevent" and gave Taylor a little more cushion than earlier (cushion that he earned).

We are fortunate that #10 Peacock did not bring his A game - he had some crucial dropped passes (I believe he heard footsteps a few times, credit to our hardhitting D).

I think our D can learn something from the team we played last night: get the right pursuit angle, fly to the ball, extend yourself to get the hit and WRAP 'em and keep driving until the guy is down. We had at least 3 or 4 good hits on #31 on his 80 TD run, but we failed to follow through with our inital hits. IF we continue to focus on this, watch out! We CAN play with the intensity and speed that Hamilton played with - we have to if we want to win it all.

Let's give our receivers credit too - how many times did Sheegog blow by his guy and was wide open streaking down field?

Credit to the coaches - their scouting showed us that if we pressured that QB, his efficiency went way down and it paid-off.

We won because we wore them down with smashmouth football AND a good mix of a well-executed passing game. What a great adjustment to the blitzes with the counter action runs. The run-n-boot is coming together.

AND I agree with someone who posted somewhere on here: we need to get more protection on Huth's backside. In the games I watched us play, being St Eds, St X, Moe and Hamilton, they've had too much pressure on him too often from that backside blitz. Huth has great poise and guts for the way he hangs in there and gets it done.

[DAWGH8R]

I really believe we had the speed at the skill positions to match them and that was good for us,


Absolutely NOT !! They had WAY more speed than we did!! Most speed I've seen in a LONG TIME !!:gogogo:

[Fats]

I thought I heard this somewhere and I don't know where. I thought someone said that their receiver was related to John Taylor from the 49ers. Just wondered if it was true.

I believe he is a nephew of a NFL player I assume it is John Taylor.

[chumly]

Team speed has a lot to do with pursuit angles - they win hands down there. They are extremely well-coached on D, just like St X is/was. They win in the team speed catagory - Massillon still had the skill player speed to match with them when and where we needed and that's good to know for what we face down the road. Like I said - we can learn a lot about a good D watching film of how Hamilton played D as a team.

Sheegog's TD and almost a TD catch on that other one - he burned his guy. Gamble chasing that guy down from behind prevented a TD for the moment?
#31 was fast and on his TD, our players were stumblin over each other - we're gonna a lose that track meet every time.

Taylor made a great over the shoulder catch down the sideline, I believe it was their last TD drive. He didn't have one step on our guy on that play, he just made a great catch. He made some top notch D-1 moves, but I didn't see him running by our DB's for TD's after the first one - great adjustments by Massillon. No doubt, we'll see him catching balls for ASU as early as next season. We can be glad Peacock didn't play up to his potential.

If we beat a great team with great speed? I think we're all happy about that.:wink:

[tiger#22]

When did Gamble get hit by anyone from Glenville?+

I am sure Glenville has some kids on that team that used to play at St Ig, St Ed's, Mentor or Eastlake North so I am sure that is why Gamble included them in that list....
:laughing: :laughing:

[chumly]

+

I am sure Glenville has some kids on that team that used to play at St Ig, St Ed's, Mentor or Eastlake North so I am sure that is why Gamble included them in that list....
:laughing: :laughing:

right on - lol

[tiger4life]

when you look at the tape or see the game again on tv and you get back to the play where gamble came out of nowhere to stop that kid, look closely whom else was about 4-5 steps behind him. Yoder. WOW. Speed for a big guy!

[TigerCarl]

We should be gracious in victory, affording the opponents to view their loss with pride. What do we say when we lose? We either say we played poorly, or that we were coached poorly. Why do the losers say things like this? Because they like to believe their team is better than the score indicates.

Considering the intended audience of the writer (Hamilton fans), I'd say he wrote fairly well about us..

[chumly]

Cox Cable's broadcast was very fair too - they gave credit on both sides of the ball where it was due.

[ChronicTiger]

Make sure you follow the link. They have some great pictures and a story about ref from az that did the first game at PBTS orginally from ohio.
GO TIGERS

The couple pictures I could find were poor. The same subjects could have been captured from an angle that showed a crowd or something remotely interesting in the background. Maybe I’ve been celebrating to much and all of sudden think I’m Peter Parker but to me it seems like amateur night with the camera. Maybe I just couldnt find them.....

[Fats]

The couple pictures I could find were poor. The same subjects could have been captured from an angle that showed a crowd or something remotely interesting in the background. Maybe I’ve been celebrating to much and all of sudden think I’m Peter Parker but to me it seems like amateur night with the camera. Maybe I just couldnt find them.....
Did you look at all 26 pictures. I thought he had some good action shots. Credits said Associated Press. Of course I am not a expert. I am not interested in the background I want the action.

[ChronicTiger]

Did you look at all 26 pictures. I thought he had some good action shots. Credits said Associated Press. Of course I am not a expert. I am not interested in the background I want the action.

I thought I must of missed something.....could you provide a link?

I thought the pictures they used with the articles could have used something in the background. That picture of them holding the AZ flag could of had the whole home stands in the background. A casual observer would think nobody was at the game.......

[slider63]

This was a great game played between 2 excellent teams. Slider, out!!!

[DAWGH8R]

This was a great game played between 2 excellent teams. Slider, out!!!


DITTO !! I was proud , for many reasons, to be a MASSILLON TIGER on Saturday !!!

[monte81]

DITTO !! I was proud , for many reasons, to be a MASSILLON TIGER on Saturday !!!

The feelings are mutual! Our kids took a gut check at halftime and came out swinging! This is going to be a exciting season baby!

I have to say this again that BG is a monster! The best 2way player at Massillon since Jerome Myricks!!!!

[tiger4life]

The couple pictures I could find were poor. The same subjects could have been captured from an angle that showed a crowd or something remotely interesting in the background. Maybe I’ve been celebrating to much and all of sudden think I’m Peter Parker but to me it seems like amateur night with the camera. Maybe I just couldnt find them.....

Couple of notes about shooting action. ALL photographers struggled with this game for a couple of reasons. The haze from the smoke and low light conditions. You have to mount a high speed flash when the light gets that low and you have to have really "quick glass". Like the F2.8 L Series lens that I use. Film speed at game time was already at ISO 1600 (normally I am at 200-400 before dark, graduating 800 and finally 1600. With shutter speeds at between 250 and 350 (if you were really lucky) the extremities of the athlete start to blur. Finally once it get's dark you need your aperature wide open (f2.8) and when this occurs it cause the background (our of focus area) to blur. Actually this is a desirable effect; it brings the athlete into focus.

Your point and shoot cameras can't get an f2.8 aperature setting this is why everything is always in focus. But this is also why you can't get good pix in low light.

Anyway...

[section13]

I thought this AZ.team reminded me of a Warren team of a few years ago.

[ChronicTiger]

Couple of notes about shooting action. ALL photographers struggled with this game for a couple of reasons. The haze from the smoke and low light conditions. You have to mount a high speed flash when the light gets that low and you have to have really "quick glass". Like the F2.8 L Series lens that I use. Film speed at game time was already at ISO 1600 (normally I am at 200-400 before dark, graduating 800 and finally 1600. With shutter speeds at between 250 and 350 (if you were really lucky) the extremities of the athlete start to blur. Finally once it get's dark you need your aperature wide open (f2.8) and when this occurs it cause the background (our of focus area) to blur. Actually this is a desirable effect; it brings the athlete into focus.

Your point and shoot cameras can't get an f2.8 aperature setting this is why everything is always in focus. But this is also why you can't get good pix in low light.

Anyway...

cool info...
I thought the quality of the images was fine. I just noticed that the picture used in the story "Hamilton falls despite effort" had empty bleachers in the background. Seemed like it could of been taken from an angle that would of showed a better view of our stadium.......

[DAWGH8R]

Couple of notes about shooting action. ALL photographers struggled with this game for a couple of reasons. The haze from the smoke and low light conditions. You have to mount a high speed flash when the light gets that low and you have to have really "quick glass". Like the F2.8 L Series lens that I use. Film speed at game time was already at ISO 1600 (normally I am at 200-400 before dark, graduating 800 and finally 1600. With shutter speeds at between 250 and 350 (if you were really lucky) the extremities of the athlete start to blur. Finally once it get's dark you need your aperature wide open (f2.8) and when this occurs it cause the background (our of focus area) to blur. Actually this is a desirable effect; it brings the athlete into focus.

Your point and shoot cameras can't get an f2.8 aperature setting this is why everything is always in focus. But this is also why you can't get good pix in low light.

Anyway...

What did he just say ???:stars: :scratchchin:

[Al.]

What did he just say ???

Bad light and speed don't mix :deal:

[obiefan]

If you thought those were poor, I'd hate to think what you thought of my pics... LOL

I know mine are much poorer than any that Massillon Sports.com takes. I usually hope to make it up with quantity as evidenced by the close to 150 pics...



The couple pictures I could find were poor. The same subjects could have been captured from an angle that showed a crowd or something remotely interesting in the background. Maybe I’ve been celebrating to much and all of sudden think I’m Peter Parker but to me it seems like amateur night with the camera. Maybe I just couldnt find them.....

[tiger4life]

Basically what I was trying to get at is that most of the time people want action shots blown up to a larger size. To do that you need to shoot as low an ISO speed (low grain) as you can and with as high shutter speed (within reason)(freezes the action and image is tack sharp) that you can get. This is an over simplificaiton of it (PhotoObie can kick in here too, he is a Master Photographer).

If your only goal is to post pix on the internet its a lot easier as resolution is not as important (you normally post at 72 dpi). However if you were lucky enough to have a photo that EPSN or SI wanted, you better hope it can be enlarged at high resolution. Our posters (18"x24") are at 400 dpi thats pretty good, try printing a picture from a point and shoot at this size and you will begin to see the pixelation. Although they are getting better and better.

Sorry for the lenghtly explanation.

[CarlE]

Couple of notes about shooting action. ALL photographers struggled with this game for a couple of reasons. The haze from the smoke and low light conditions. You have to mount a high speed flash when the light gets that low and you have to have really "quick glass". Like the F2.8 L Series lens that I use. Film speed at game time was already at ISO 1600 (normally I am at 200-400 before dark, graduating 800 and finally 1600. With shutter speeds at between 250 and 350 (if you were really lucky) the extremities of the athlete start to blur. Finally once it get's dark you need your aperature wide open (f2.8) and when this occurs it cause the background (our of focus area) to blur. Actually this is a desirable effect; it brings the athlete into focus.

Your point and shoot cameras can't get an f2.8 aperature setting this is why everything is always in focus. But this is also why you can't get good pix in low light.

Anyway...

I GUESS this is in English but anyway I thought the pictures looked great. Sure made me wish that stuff hadn't come up and I could have made it up there. I also missed a wedding for a VERY good friend of mine Saturday night.

[ChronicTiger]

If you thought those were poor, I'd hate to think what you thought of my pics... LOL

I know mine are much poorer than any that Massillon Sports.com takes. I usually hope to make it up with quantity as evidenced by the close to 150 pics...

I think your pictures are great! I cant believe I'm still talking about this! Someone said follow the link because of some great pictures. If you follow the link in the original post and look at the picture, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? I thought it looked like the team went all the way to Ohio and played in front of 25 people. The picture isnt bad. From the standpoint of providing an image of the game for the reader to get a feel for the atmosphere, this photo seemed like a poor choice. There may be some great pictures burried on that site somewhere but the image they used for the article (probably the only one most will see) was lame. The same subject (team with the AZ flag) could have been captured with the home stands in the background or something of interest.

Enough of photshop 101!

:doh2:

Great game by both teams. I watched the replay a couple times already. Everyone really stepped up! Way to go TIGERS....................

[Kamd50]

I know,:offtopic: , but I personally really appreciate a little photography education that I can actually understand. thanks!

[Fats]

I think your pictures are great! I cant believe I'm still talking about this! Someone said follow the link because of some great pictures. If you follow the link in the original post and look at the picture, what is the first thing that comes to your mind? I thought it looked like the team went all the way to Ohio and played in front of 25 people. The picture isnt bad. From the standpoint of providing an image of the game for the reader to get a feel for the atmosphere, this photo seemed like a poor choice. There may be some great pictures burried on that site somewhere but the image they used for the article (probably the only one most will see) was lame. The same subject (team with the AZ flag) could have been captured with the home stands in the background or something of interest.

Enough of photshop 101!

:doh2:


Great game by both teams. I watched the replay a couple times already. Everyone really stepped up! Way to go TIGERS....................
The link is on the first post. Go to the right hand side of page and see in small print two other stories on game. One has a photo icon next to it.

[ChronicTiger]

Ive seen them. Nice but not one good shot of the crowd, the scoreboard, the stadium......Nothing.

BEAT MENTOR

[chumly]

Cox Cable never showed the scoreboard end of the field. A wide angle shot from the NE corner of the stadium would have been nice. They didn't show the scoreboard when Hamilton played at Sun Devil Stadium in week one either - there must be an agreement with an advertiser somewhere.

Anyhow, Cox did get a few really good shots from the track looking up into the West Stands - the perspective angle made the crowd look huge. I've seen a lot better production and shots from other companies, but who cares - we won and we got to see it out here on live TV.