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pnthrfan
03-10-2008, 11:31 PM
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida By Warren P. Strobel, McClatchy Newspapers
Mon Mar 10, 7:08 PM ET

WASHINGTON — An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East , U.S. officials told McClatchy . However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.

Full Story : http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080310/wl_mcclatchy/2875005

TigerCoach
03-11-2008, 05:31 AM
:wtf:You can cite 6 million Iraqi documents. As an American, I don't believe them.

Paul Brown
03-11-2008, 06:46 AM
As an American who doesn't follow the GOP blindly, I can believe it. Nothing ever linked Saddam to AQ before and nothing does now after his death. The GOP has always had one problem and that's admitting it was wrong.

OTC TIGER
03-11-2008, 12:37 PM
I'm sure Saddam felt real sorry for the 3000+ killed on 9-11-01 :wall:

SuperBran
03-11-2008, 01:25 PM
I'm sure Saddam felt real sorry for the 3000+ killed on 9-11-01 :wall:

so we justify the war on saddam cheering for the terrorists?

that's foreign policy at it's finest.

SuperBran
03-11-2008, 01:26 PM
:wtf:You can cite 6 million Iraqi documents. As an American, I don't believe them.

then where is the proof that there was a connection (beyond biased speculation)?

i hear so many people say that they're sure that there was a connection.....yet not one person can find any evidence at all.

SternRulz
03-11-2008, 01:53 PM
W and staff themselves admitted there was no connection...after we were already there.

Indiana95
03-12-2008, 12:07 AM
Funny how the sheep continue to spew what their shepards told them oh so long ago, even after their shepards have changed their tunes. Maybe they weren't as easy to heard as Carl Rove thought? LOL

TigerCoach
03-12-2008, 05:39 AM
Well, look at it this way, you military experts. We are fighting a war on terrorists, it is not a war against Iraq. We just happen to be mainly in Iraq and for some reason the media only focuses on Iraq (for obvious reasons). If there were no terrorists in Iraq, we wouldn't be there. If Saddam had no direct ties to Al queda, then he was certainly "terrorist friendly" or they wouldn't be there. Don't need evidence of that!

CarlE
03-12-2008, 07:38 AM
Funny how the sheep continue to spew what their shepards told them oh so long ago, even after their shepards have changed their tunes. Maybe they weren't as easy to heard as Carl Rove thought? LOL

Oh annointed liberal spewer. If you're going to pretend to be all-knowing, at LEAST learn to spell KARL Rove's name, OK?

SuperBran
03-12-2008, 09:48 AM
Well, look at it this way, you military experts. We are fighting a war on terrorists, it is not a war against Iraq. We just happen to be mainly in Iraq and for some reason the media only focuses on Iraq (for obvious reasons). If there were no terrorists in Iraq, we wouldn't be there. If Saddam had no direct ties to Al queda, then he was certainly "terrorist friendly" or they wouldn't be there. Don't need evidence of that!

we went to afghanistan with the purpose of capturing bin laden, hunting down al-qaeda, and removing the taliban (b/c we believed they had provided support to al-Qaeda). we didn't go there b/c there were terrorists in general within the borders. we went there to hunt down those who were directly and indirectly responsible for 9/11. if there were no ties to bin laden or al-qaeda in afghanistan after 9/11, we wouldn't have gone there.

we went to iraq b/c dubya believed that they had WMD and were a threat of imminant harm to the u.s. we didn't go there b/c of terrorists in general. if there was no evidence of WMD or any ties to bin laden and al-quaeda, we wouldn't have gone there.

there are terrorist cells all over the world: afghanistan, iraq, yemen, egypt, phillipines, sudan, algeria, pakistan, to name just a few. we can't just invade other countries b/c they have terrorists, in general, within their borders. otherwise we'd have one heck of a military campaign.

as i've said before, it's ridiculous to say "well, i guess there were no WMD in iraq, and no evidence of ties to al-qaeda, but they do have terrorists in general so that makes it all better."

Indiana95
03-12-2008, 10:41 AM
Oh annointed liberal spewer. If you're going to pretend to be all-knowing, at LEAST learn to spell KARL Rove's name, OK?

My bad. I'm sure you aren't happy sharing the pronunciation of your first name with him, much less the spelling.

reofan82
03-12-2008, 03:59 PM
Exhaustive review finds no link between Saddam, al Qaida By Warren P. Strobel, McClatchy Newspapers
Mon Mar 10, 7:08 PM ET

WASHINGTON — An exhaustive review of more than 600,000 Iraqi documents that were captured after the 2003 U.S. invasion has found no evidence that Saddam Hussein's regime had any operational links with Osama bin Laden's al Qaida terrorist network.

The Pentagon-sponsored study, scheduled for release later this week, did confirm that Saddam's regime provided some support to other terrorist groups, particularly in the Middle East , U.S. officials told McClatchy . However, his security services were directed primarily against Iraqi exiles, Shiite Muslims, Kurds and others he considered enemies of his regime.

Full Story : http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20080310/wl_mcclatchy/2875005

How do we know we have all the documents? and Why would written documentation or the lack there of, be absolute proof that no relationship between SH and AQ existed? Iran knew we were coming for months, could the documents have been previously destroyed? No documentation is an issue, but does not make for an absolute answer on linkage.

SuperBran
03-12-2008, 04:25 PM
How do we know we have all the documents? and Why would written documentation or the lack there of, be absolute proof that no relationship between SH and AQ existed? Iran knew we were coming for months, could the documents have been previously destroyed? No documentation is an issue, but does not make for an absolute answer on linkage.

i understand what you are saying, and you could very well be right. however, what you've discussed above (i.e., destruction of documents) is just speculation. the truth is that there is no evidence of any connection whatsoever. even our government admits that. we haven't found anything, and probably never will. we don't know if we have all the evidence out there, but we do know that we haven't found one piece of evidence to show a connection.

i know that many people would love to think that there was a connection, but we cannot say that there was a connection when there's absolutely nothing that would suggest anything to the contrary (besides biased speculation). it's more reasonable to say that there is definitely no connection b/c there is no proof than to say there definitely is a connection even though there is no proof. we live in a society where we believe people are innocent until proven guilty. in this case, though, people seem to think it's the other way around.

Tiger Flame
03-12-2008, 05:28 PM
There is a connection and its dummy,lying Bush and he still has people supporting him ! GO TIGERS

Kamd50
03-13-2008, 09:19 AM
Pentagon Report on Saddam's Iraq Censored?
March 12, 2008 1:58 PM

ABC News' Jonathan Karl Reports: The Bush Administration apparently does not want a U.S. military study that found no direct connection between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda to get any attention. This morning, the Pentagon cancelled plans to send out a press release announcing the report's release and will no longer make the report available online.

The report was to be posted on the Joint Forces Command website this afternoon, followed by a background briefing with the authors. No more. The report will be made available only to those who ask for it, and it will be sent via U.S. mail from Joint Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia.

It won't be emailed to reporters and it won't be posted online.

Asked why the report would not be posted online and could not be emailed, the spokesman for Joint Forces Command said: "We're making the report available to anyone who wishes to have it, and we'll send it out via CD in the mail."

Another Pentagon official said initial press reports on the study made it "too politically sensitive."

continued:http://blogs.abcnews.com/rapidreport/2008/03/pentagon-report.html

Tiger Flame
03-13-2008, 10:33 AM
Come on you Bush supporters ,you told us how great this guy was for seven long years and this is no time to abandon the idiot. We all know that you were all right and that anybody who tried to tell you dirrerent should just leave the country. Now you know why the term in other countries,stupid americans,is wisely used as this idiot was elected or appointed twice ! GO TIGERS ---try to have a nice day inspite of the idiot.

Tiger77
03-13-2008, 10:54 AM
Counting down to election day...... :usflag: