N.Y. Democrats career is over!

[savage4president]

Democratic Govenor Elliot Spitzer told staffers today that he was involved in a Prostitution Ring. He is set to make an announcement this afternoon according to nydailynews.com

How in the heck did he think this would go unnoticed? This could have explosive implications for the democrats.

[Indiana95]

Democratic Govenor Elliot Spitzer told staffers today that he was involved in a Prostitution Ring. He is set to make an announcement this afternoon according to nydailynews.com

How in the heck did he think this would go unnoticed? This could have explosive implications for the democrats.

Explosive implications? For him, absolutely! How disgusting for his family. For his career, of course! If he doesn't resign, he won't get re-elected. For democrats, I don't believe so.

First of all, he is a governer, not a sentor, so his linkage to the larger democratic party is not as high profile as a Craig or Foley was to the republicans. Second, republicans involved in sex scandals have it much tougher, as the party preaches a higher level of "morality". The repubs mentioned above did have some short-term effect on their party, but it is mostly forgotten. Foley is actually out and about again, attending social functions in So. FL, struting his stuff like a celebrity, and getting the attention like nothing ever happened.

The republicans will try to maximize political gain on this issue, just like the dems did for the Foley and Craig issue. But at the end of the day, the dems will shun this guy, as they should, and he will be forgotten within weeks. It's that simple.

[Paul Brown]

This could have explosive implications for the democrats.

Really grasping for straws here lol. Even Mccain doesn't really expect to win.

[ChronicTiger]

Career over? I doubt it.......

[warren1st]

Career over? I doubt it.......

You're kidding, right?

[SuperBran]

You're kidding, right?

people didn't think marion barry would ever get elected again. anything can happen.

[TigerCoach]

Rumors have it that Spitzer was on the phone with Bill Clinton last night trying to come up with an alibi. "It was ummmm....an undercover investigation, no it was an old law school friend. Well, at least I never had sex with that woman!"

Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me that he was railroaded by someone because of his history with Wall Street. He used to be called "The Sheriff of Wall St."

[man2man]

In all honesty, this stuff should be left between the husband and wife. I don't care to know about what these sleazeball politicians do on their free time. And I think many more are doing it that you never hear of, so what's the point?

[CarlE]

In all honesty, this stuff should be left between the husband and wife. I don't care to know about what these sleazeball politicians do on their free time. And I think many more are doing it that you never hear of, so what's the point?

I would agree except for the fact that he has played "Holier than Thou" as he has gone after all the people on Wall Street. I hope they bury this hypocrite alive.

[savage4president]

In all honesty, this stuff should be left between the husband and wife. I don't care to know about what these sleazeball politicians do on their free time. And I think many more are doing it that you never hear of, so what's the point?


Ummmm....you do realize that it is illegal right? The morality aspect is between him and his wife, the legal aspect is something totally different. When you are the chief executive of a state, one of your number 1 priorities is to be the "chief citizen" of that state, and to abide by the laws you are sworn to execute.

[DAWGH8R]

Who among us HASN'T been linked to a prostitution ring ??

[TigerLily]

Didn’t this all start with this, and could lead to other kinds of charges??


“The case started when banks noticed the frequent transfers from several accounts and filed suspicious activity reports with the Internal Revenue Service, the law enforcement official told the AP. The accounts were traced back to Spitzer, prompting public corruption investigators to open an inquiry”.


Also -- No. 1 on Letterman’s “Top 10 List”

He thought that Bill Clinton had already made it legal”

[TigerCoach]

Who among us HASN'T been linked to a prostitution ring ??

He should be arrested for paying those kind of prices! LOL Did yousee the rates for these escorts? $5500/hour!! Man, at those prices, she better have 2 twin sisters with her! LOL!:hyper:

[CarlE]

He should be arrested for paying those kind of prices! LOL Did yousee the rates for these escorts? $5500/hour!! Man, at those prices, she better have 2 twin sisters with her! LOL!:hyper:

Go to their web-site. You MIGHT change your mind.

[man2man]

Also -- No. 1 on Letterman’s “Top 10 List”

He thought that Bill Clinton had already made it legal”

Classic. At least this guy went for some prime real estate. Ole Bill just turned out to be a chubby chaser wanting a freebie.

The NY Gov was just doing to her what politicians do to all of us. At least she would get paid.

I know this NY guv screwed the guy from AIG. And I frankly don't care if he survives this or not.

I guess I'm yearning for a time when the focus becomes on the wrongs they are commiting while executing their elected offices, and less focus on who did what to whom during off time.

[obiefan]

Speak for yourself! :)

Who among us HASN'T been linked to a prostitution ring ??

[dataintsmiff]

In all honesty, this stuff should be left between the husband and wife. I don't care to know about what these sleazeball politicians do on their free time. And I think many more are doing it that you never hear of, so what's the point?

Oh boy!:wall:

[ChronicTiger]

You're kidding, right?

have you seen this dudes resume? He will land on his feet..........

[werperry]

have you seen this dudes resume? He will land on his feet..........

I'll tell you one thing - if he does land on his feet - dude can't run a campaign claiming he's fiscally responsible.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03112008/news/regionalnews/spitzer_has_used_hookers_for_6_years__so_101444.ht m

March 11, 2008 --

Disgraced Gov. Spitzer dropped up to $80,000 on sex with prostitutes, sources revealed tonight.

[DAWGH8R]

/
Disgraced Gov. Spitzer dropped up to $80,000 on sex with prostitutes, sources revealed tonight.


80K in a ten year span is nothing !! $ 8 Dimes a year for whores is not out of the ordinary, (for guys that use them).

Cheaper than a girlfriend !!

[werperry]

80K in a ten year span is nothing !! $ 8 Dimes a year for whores is not out of the ordinary, (for guys that use them).

Cheaper than a girlfriend !!

**stunned silence**

:stars:

[reofan82]

Explosive implications? For him, absolutely! How disgusting for his family. For his career, of course! If he doesn't resign, he won't get re-elected. For democrats, I don't believe so.

First of all, he is a governer, not a sentor, so his linkage to the larger democratic party is not as high profile as a Craig or Foley was to the republicans. Second, republicans involved in sex scandals have it much tougher, as the party preaches a higher level of "morality". The repubs mentioned above did have some short-term effect on their party, but it is mostly forgotten. Foley is actually out and about again, attending social functions in So. FL, struting his stuff like a celebrity, and getting the attention like nothing ever happened.

The republicans will try to maximize political gain on this issue, just like the dems did for the Foley and Craig issue. But at the end of the day, the dems will shun this guy, as they should, and he will be forgotten within weeks. It's that simple.

The failings of Foley, Craig and Spitzer,etc, have nothing to do with party politics. They are poor choices made by flawed individuals. Neither party has a monopoly on flawed individuals who make poor choices. What gets me, is that all of these people are public figures and in some way constantly in the public eye. In this day of 24/7 media, Internet, technology,etc, Why do they think that they will not be caught with their various activities? Can they possibly fool themselves in to believing they are untouchable? Spitzer has made a career out of going after people as AG, he must know he has people looking for payback, Why would he be so careless?

[Kamd50]

Personally, I don't even care why any of these elected or appointed,public servants, (men or women) do the dispicable things that they do.

What I wonder is why their spouses, in this case, his wife, stands by her man when he showed no regard or respect for her or his daughters while he was attending to his own selfish desires. Can any of us even begin to imagine how humiliating that must be to have stand up there next to him all quiet and stoic while he makes his humble apology in front of the entire nation?

I cannot. I would have to be heavily sedated with valium in order to be able to pull that off. Then I'd head straight to the lawyer's office.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Kamd50,

Give Mrs. Spitzer credit for standing by him during this tough time in the life of
Eliot Laurence Spitzer. This is a man of devout Jewish beliefs who made a pivotal mistake in his life.

And he's not alone. Kwame Kilpatrick (Detroit mayor), Bill Clinton (obviously), Larry Craig (I think) and some others have made stupid mistakes in their life. Yes their wives were upset but they stood by them because they pledged their love to their men through good times and bad times.

Don't be so quick to assault the 48-year-old father of three on this. Spitzer's wife didn't assail him, nor did Kilpatrick's wife. Both were upset but again, faith and trust wins out.

Spitzer will be fine. I don't condone his actions but he needs time to be with his family. He's been knocked off his horse but he will get back up and ride again. He's a Spitzer. Spitzer. That name means something.........

[pnthrfan]

Kamd50,

Give Mrs. Spitzer credit for standing by him during this tough time in the life of
Eliot Laurence Spitzer. This is a man of devout Jewish beliefs who made a pivotal mistake in his life.

And he's not alone. Kwame Kilpatrick (Detroit mayor), Bill Clinton (obviously), Larry Craig (I think) and some others have made stupid mistakes in their life. Yes their wives were upset but they stood by them because they pledged their love to their men through good times and bad times.

Don't be so quick to assault the 48-year-old father of three on this. Spitzer's wife didn't assail him, nor did Kilpatrick's wife. Both were upset but again, faith and trust wins out.

Spitzer will be fine. I don't condone his actions but he needs time to be with his family. He's been knocked off his horse but he will get back up and ride again. He's a Spitzer. Spitzer. That name means something.........

Holy Smokes......what planet do you live on?? I can guarantee you that you won't find ANY sympathy for this "devout Jewish man"...HA!! on this forum from the girls on here.
You talk about faith and trust....Do you actually think that his wife STILL has FAITH and TRUST in him, after spending $80,000.00 on a bunch of hookers? PLEASE!!
The best thing his wife can do is to pack up his stuff , throw it out on the front lawn......take him for EVERYTHING that he has ...plus $80,000.00 more for pain and suffering. He put his wife's life in jeopardy by doing what he did along with ruining her and his daughters lives. What a LOSER!!.

[CarlE]

To answer Kamd50's question. Because he's freaking LOADED and she has nowhere else to go.

To answer The Pittsburg Playboy's question. Dude, you are rapidly establishing yourself as the most whacked out poster in the HISTORY of MP.com. And THAT is taking a lot, believe me.

[werperry]

Kamd50,

Give Mrs. Spitzer credit for standing by him during this tough time in the life of
Eliot Laurence Spitzer. This is a man of devout Jewish beliefs who made a pivotal mistake in his life.


are you freakin' kidding me?! what Gdamn world do you live in? a mistake? ...this a-hole didn't mistakingly make a wrong turn on some back country road...or accidently drop a cigar into an intern.

he allegedly spent 80-GRAND to play hide-the-salami with whores?!! ...he allegedly didn't want HIS salami covered while playing the 'ole in-out. ...and one of his escapades occurred the day before Valentine's Day. all honest mistakes... right?

A mistake usually happens once (maybe twice) ...and a mistake ISN'T calculated. yup...sounds like the ONLY mistake "client #9" made was getting caught.


FWIW - his wife is a dope for standing next to him. but, give it 6 months she'll have all his money...











Jesus, Mary and Joseph - did I agree with panthrfan again? :stars:

[werperry]

Can any of us even begin to imagine how humiliating that must be to have stand up there next to him all quiet and stoic while he makes his humble apology in front of the entire nation?

Kamd50 - IMHO...there was NOTHING humble about his apology.

[Kamd50]

Kamd50 - IMHO...there was NOTHING humble about his apology.

I am in complete agreement. I should have inserted some indication of sarcasm when I typed that.

To Keno, that is the absolute worst post you have ever made on this website ! Even WORSE than the relentless mentioning of your pitts sweethearts! I am truely disappointed to hear you refer to the man as "devout" and his actions as a "mistake". If that wasn't so pitiful, it would be funny.

What do you envision him doing after he left the hotel room as saying? "oops, I just cheated on and betrayed my wife and family". ? And then the next time, did he go "oh darn, I did it again, but I didn't mean it. It was a mistake". ??? Or, as he walks into the room that he paid for, "oh, I must have came here by mistake, but since I'm already here..............":wall:
I wish we could still use multiple smilies so I could follow that one with plugging my ears shut, seeing stars, my mouth dropping open and then puking!

In my mind, the only mistakes that he is probably thinking about right now are the things he did that lead to him being caught. How much do you want to bet that if he hadn't gotten caught that he would continue to indulge in his extramarital activities?

As far as the wife not having anywhere to go, If she gets over the shock and humiliation that he has caused her, she should be able to find herself and her girls quite a nice refuge with what the courts would award her. Should she choose to go that route.

[Al.]

http://cagle.com/news/Spitzer/images/tab.jpg

[TigerLily]

What do you envision him doing after he left the hotel room as saying? "oops, I just cheated on and betrayed my wife and family". ? And then the next time, did he go "oh darn, I did it again, but I didn't mean it. It was a mistake". ??? Or, as he walks into the room that he paid for, "oh, I must have came here by mistake, but since I'm already here..............":wall:
I wish we could still use multiple smilies so I could follow that one with plugging my ears shut, seeing stars, my mouth dropping open and then puking!


Here Kamd, I’ll help you.

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_2_6.gif

I don’t think I can really add much to what has already been said on here about his disgusting behavior.

But, why do people, especially in his position in government, think that they can do these kinds of things and get away with it? I know it’s a do “whatever I want” kind of society, but this is reprehensible.

And his wife standing there beside him??? The only way she should have gone up there with him is if she was “tazzing” him the whole way to the podium.

It’s going to take her some time and a lot of prayer to try and find forgiveness in her heart for what he has done not only to her, but their children.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Kamd50,

You fired on me. Now I'm firing back.

I don't know about Mr. Spitzer's personal life and the relationship he may have had with Kristen...or whoever else was with him. All I know is that he shamed himself and his family and he has to pay a price for that. His wife is just as upset along with his three daughters. But he has to pick himself back up and that starts now.

You may not have liked what I said and I am OK with that. You're welcome to your thoughts and I respect your thoughts. Even though you buckled my legs with your post, don't think I can't trade left hooks with you on here. I don't go down easily on the first left hook landed.

But answer me one question: You're a devoted Catholic mom who is happily married with four loving children. What asset do you think has been the key to your successful marriage and what do you think is the #1 thing Mr. Spitzer missed greatly in his?

I welcome your thoughts.

[shortbev]

Kamd50,

But answer me one question: You're a devoted Catholic mom who is happily married with four loving children. What asset do you think has been the key to your successful marriage and what do you think is the #1 thing Mr. Spitzer missed greatly in his?

I welcome your thoughts.


this is coming from me, not kam,

maybe fear...i would slap the crap out of my husband if i found out he was putting out any money for a hooker, let alone $80000...and then i would do a "bobbit" on the guy...for those who may not remember who or what that means...a woman about 15 years ago, reached over and chopped off her husband's "little buddy" while he was sleeping...

i don't think he feared getting caught...i KNOW he didn't respect what they had together or he would never have ventured out the door for anything...

infidelity of any sort is the ultimate selfishness, i have heard it said...(male or female) and i think that is true...that person is only thinking of their own pleasure, with only one part of their anatomy...they don't think of the impact on the spouse, children or anyone who loves them in any way...

if there is anyone on here who is of the "boys will be boys" mentality...think of things this way...how would you feel if this had been your father doing this to your mother...or your son-in-law doing it to your daughter...

for anyone who chooses to think of this as a "mistake"...you really need to look up the definition of what a "mistake" is...

(internet dictionary) "an error in action, calculation, opinion, or judgment caused by poor reasoning, carelessness, insufficient knowledge, etc. An error (often interchanged with mistake) is an unintentional wandering or deviation from accuracy, or right conduct

don't think he can use the "honey, i didn't know what would happen" defense...and doing something over and over again blows the daylights out of the "unintentional" one...

[werperry]

he didn't respect what they had together or he would never have ventured out the door for anything...

I realize the question was for Kamd - but right ^^^ there is your answer.

RESPECT. he had NONE, ZERO, NADA...for his wife & family.

[Kamd50]

Kamd50,


But answer me one question: What asset do you think has been the key to your successful marriage and what do you think is the #1 thing Mr. Spitzer missed greatly in his?

I welcome your thoughts.

It's really not that complicated. It's called honoring your wedding vows. Sometimes everything just flows and it's pretty easy, other times, it can get a little tough when you come to a bump in the road; but you keep your word anyhow. Marriage isn't supposed to be some kind of a cakewalk where as soon as some obstacle comes along you've got an automatic free pass to break your commitment.

Other than that, I think shortbev summed it up quite nicely, thanks bev! I especially liked the part about what she would do to his "little buddy" LOL!

[Seeker]

Well...we've heard from a few ladies, here's an honest answer from a man.

I'm married now for 22 years.

I wouldn't call it respect as much as just weighing whether it would be worth it to risk messing up what I have at home with my wife and kids.

I have never felt that the risk was worth it.

:rolleyes:

[DAWGH8R]

Obviouy, he had needs that his wife wasn't fulfilling. Shame on her for making him feel he had to go 'outside the marriage' to achieve his happiness !! :wink:

[shortbev]

i read this when i was fresh out of bed...my brain was still fuzzy...my first reaction was this

Obviouy, he had needs that his wife wasn't fulfilling. Shame on her for making him feel he had to go 'outside the marriage' to achieve his happiness !! :wink:



ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? you are putting the blame on the wife??? sounds like something this yahoo would do...put the blame on someone, anyone other than the party who made the choice...now that is 100% arrogance ...how would that go over with you, if your wife decided to cheat on you with a make hooker??? "but, honey, you weren't meeting some of my "needs"...i was lonely while you were at work...so, i had no other choice"...yeah, right...i am SOOOOO very sure that you would be totally cool with that, NOT!!!


let's be real here, not everyone gets everyone of their needs met 100% of the time at !00% of when they need something...THAT IS LIFE!!! DEAL WITH IT!!! when you got married, you made certain vows before God and whomever was there...you made vows to that wife remember??? "forsaking all others"...that doesn't mean just when it is convenient to you...that means 24/7 until "death do you part"...i guess that is naive of me to think that means something in today'[s society...

hey, wait...my back needs rubbed...and i need a kiss...think i will go find a hooker or someone to meet that need since he won't be home until later in the day...

i reread the posting...i sincerely hope there was a bit of sarcasm with the little emoticon at the end...i got the sensing that good ole dawg was trying to get a rise out of someone...

[CarlE]

Um, I know Jay. He was teasing. It's that Vegas air out there playing havoc with his brain!!

[TigerLily]

Well...we've heard from a few ladies, here's an honest answer from a man.

I'm married now for 22 years.

I wouldn't call it respect as much as just weighing whether it would be worth it to risk messing up what I have at home with my wife and kids.

I have never felt that the risk was worth it.

:rolleyes:

So….if you knew positively, absolutely that you could get away with it…then it would be O.K.???

N - O!!

[CarlE]

So….if you knew positively, absolutely that you could get away with it…then it would be O.K.???

N - O!!

I don't think he said that at all. What's the matter with all you broads on here today, anyway?

[TigerLily]

I don't think he said that at all. What's the matter with all you broads on here today, anyway?

Maybe it’s the idea that some men think of us as “broads”…..

[Seeker]

So….if you knew positively, absolutely that you could get away with it…then it would be O.K.???

N - O!!

LOL!
Nope.
Because, there is no such thing as being "postively, absolutely" sure that I could get away with it.

In a way, it is still respect, I guess, just looking at it a little differently and being honest about it.

:stars:

[TigerCoach]

Well...we've heard from a few ladies, here's an honest answer from a man.

I'm married now for 22 years.

I wouldn't call it respect as much as just weighing whether it would be worth it to risk messing up what I have at home with my wife and kids.

I have never felt that the risk was worth it.

:rolleyes:

I agree with Seeker. It's not worth it!!! (and guys like me have women propositioning us all the time, j/k LOL!!!)

[CarlE]

Maybe it’s the idea that some men think of us as “broads”…..

You are broads. My thinking is now going to be reverting back to the days of the Rat Pack, led by Frank Sinatra. It's OK to drink and smoke, and women are broads. LOL. I'll probably be opening in Vegas soon, too.

[TigerLily]

You are broads. My thinking is now going to be reverting back to the days of the Rat Pack, led by Frank Sinatra. It's OK to drink and smoke, and women are broads. LOL. I'll probably be opening in Vegas soon, too.

No doubt...you should take your act on the road....

(I know you're just kidding Carle)...(I think)...http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_12.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_3v.gif

[CarlE]

No doubt...you should take your act on the road....

(I know you're just kidding Carle)...(I think)...http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_12_12.gif http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_1_3v.gif

You got me, dear!!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Kamd50,

Spitzer was wrong to betray his wife and I don't condone it. Maybe I was being too nice toward him given my beliefs in second chances.

Unfortunately, this guy responding to your post got under your skin in the worst way possible and that shouldn't have happened.

Other than that, you are correct about the importance of marriage and forsaking yourself from any other person.

P.S. For every man on this site, you DO have a hard left hook, that when landed...can be every bit as powerful (tee, hee)!

[reofan82]

I read that the former Gov. would hire three girls at one time for his "parties". Since the whole servant of the people thing did not work out, perhaps he can play an instrument with the other guys in that "Viva Viagra" commercial.

[shooter]

I read of a study that asked married men if they would cheat on their wives if there was: 1) no chance of being discovered; 2) no chance of contracting a disease; and 3), no further involvment from the one night stand.

90% said under those conditions they would have an affair.

[Indiana95]

I read of a study that asked married men if they would cheat on their wives if there was: 1) no chance of being discovered; 2) no chance of contracting a disease; and 3), no further involvment from the one night stand.

90% said under those conditions they would have an affair.

I would say that 10% of the respondents lied! LOL

[pnthrfan]

I read of a study that asked married men if they would cheat on their wives if there was: 1) no chance of being discovered; 2) no chance of contracting a disease; and 3), no further involvment from the one night stand.

90% said under those conditions they would have an affair.

That is very sad.

[reofan82]

Sex is great and everything, but it is not worth sacrificing your family or your soul over. Wanting or needing physical contact that bad is a sign that something is wrong in your heart and it probably has nothing to do with sex.

[DAWGH8R]

i read this when i was fresh out of bed...my brain was still fuzzy...my first reaction was this


ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

i reread the posting...i sincerely hope there was a bit of sarcasm with the little emoticon at the end...i got the sensing that good ole dawg was trying to get a rise out of someone...


BEV,

The :wink: at the end of my statement , should have been a dead give-away !! PUT THE GUN DOWN !!

[Obie Wan]

Seems to me a lot of people are making presumptions about the intimate details of the Spitzers' marriage -- details that they can't possibly know. It's not implausible that Mrs. Spitzer has known about this for years. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that she put him up to this. Maybe she gets her kicks hearing about the escapades from him. Maybe she's turned into a cold fish with locked legs. There are a whole lot of possible scenarios that don't involve the common take of "wronged wife". As such, would the discussion not be better served to stick to the known facts about his conduct and cease with the voyeuristic speculation about her emotions?

[pnthrfan]

As such, would the discussion not be better served to stick to the known facts about his conduct and cease with the voyeuristic speculation about her emotions?

You're funny....you tell us to stick to the known facts about his conduct and cease with the voyeuristic specualtion about her emotions, but at the same time you are "speculating" that she was a "cold fish with locked legs" and that "maybe she gets her kicks hearing about the escapades from him".

The facts are that the guy has spent $80,000.00 on hookers over the years, while being married , and a FATHER of 3 daughters. If he was that unhappy in his marriage, then get out!! It would have cost him a hell of alot less to have just divorced her ealier then it will now( if that is the route she wants to take.) Throughout this whole mess, I feel sorry for his girls the most. Can you imagine what they are and will be going trough. He was a selfish piece of SH*T putting his family through this.

[Obie Wan]

You're funny....you tell us to stick to the known facts about his conduct and cease with the voyeuristic specualtion about her emotions, but at the same time you are "speculating" that she was a "cold fish with locked legs" and that "maybe she gets her kicks hearing about the escapades from him".
There's a difference between unfounded speculation and arguendo.

If he was that unhappy in his marriage, then get out!!
There you go again. How do you know he was unhappy?

[pnthrfan]

There you go again. How do you know he was unhappy?

I said IF...or maybe you just missed that. :rolleyes:

[werperry]

I wouldn't call it respect as much as just weighing whether it would be worth it to risk messing up what I have at home with my wife and kids.

I have never felt that the risk was worth it.

:rolleyes:


seeker, obviously you can have your opinion.

but, no matter how you slice & dice it - it DOES come down to respect. respect for the family you built and the wife you committed to...

let's say you have great respect for an uncle. would you cheat and/or steal from him? of course not. would you weigh the risks stealing from him? of course not. why? because you respect him.

IMHO - (i'm not saying this about your marriage seeker) - if a husband or wife is "weighing the risk" to cheat on the spouse... the respect...is already gone.



...and yes obie wan... spare me the exception of swingers and the like - those marriages do exists - but it is not the norm.

[Seeker]

IMHO - (i'm not saying this about your marriage seeker) - if a husband or wife is "weighing the risk" to cheat on the spouse... the respect...is already gone.

Perhaps you missed my later post where I said that what I feel does after all seem to be the same thing that others mean by saying "respect."

The confusion might come from how a person defines the word respect.

IMHO, what I'm alluding to goes even deeper than respect.

Sometimes people show respect only or mostly from fear of retribution.
That, for example is a shallow respect.

[werperry]

Seems to me a lot of people are making presumptions about the intimate details of the Spitzers' marriage -- details that they can't possibly know. It's not implausible that Mrs. Spitzer has known about this for years. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that she put him up to this. Maybe she gets her kicks hearing about the escapades from him. Maybe she's turned into a cold fish with locked legs. There are a whole lot of possible scenarios that don't involve the common take of "wronged wife". As such, would the discussion not be better served to stick to the known facts about his conduct and cease with the voyeuristic speculation about her emotions?

let's say for an instance - she did "know" about and like to hear about his "escapades". Here's two questions to ponder...

** Why did Spitzer need to move money & hide payments to this agency?

** Why did Spitzer ask to NOT use condoms?

While it is an illegal activity, and could partly explain why he concealed the payments - I believe he did it to cover his tracks with his wife. To make the payments he didn't have to wash it through several accounts. Also, do you think his wife got off on the chance she could contract a STD?? That's a bit kinky...


Obie Wan - while nothing is implausible - I think you're reaching a bit.

[werperry]

Perhaps you missed my later post where I said that what I feel does after all seem to be the same thing that others mean by saying "respect."

The confusion might come from how a person defines the word respect.

IMHO, what I'm alluding to goes even deeper than respect.

Sometimes people show respect only or mostly from fear of retribution.
That, for example is a shallow respect.

I did miss your later post. ...I see what you're saying.

[Obie Wan]

...and yes obie wan... spare me the exception of swingers and the like - those marriages do exists - but it is not the norm.
Neither is spending $8000/year on hookers. What's your point?

et's say for an instance - she did "know" about and like to hear about his "escapades". Here's two questions to ponder...

** Why did Spitzer need to move money & hide payments to this agency?

** Why did Spitzer ask to NOT use condoms?

While it is an illegal activity, and could partly explain why he concealed the payments - I believe he did it to cover his tracks with his wife. To make the payments he didn't have to wash it through several accounts. Also, do you think his wife got off on the chance she could contract a STD?? That's a bit kinky...
"Partly explain"? What part of the word "felony" do you not understand? Seems to me that's a pretty compelling reason to hide illegal activity, irrespective of marital status. You might also consider the increased financial scrutiny to which politicians are subject. Perhaps the legal and professional repercussions alone would lead a man to concealment. Ya think?

You can "believe" all you want, but I dare say you don't have a scintilla of evidence to support your position. For all you know, the money originally came from her household accounts. Hell, she might have made the initial transfer. And unlike you, I don't presume to know what his wife "got off on" -- and I'm not about to say that she wasn't kinky just because the assumption fits my preferred story line.

Again, why not stick to the facts and quit projecting your morality onto the situation? There is plenty of rope with which to hang this guy. There's no need to distort the issue with baseless innuendo.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080316/ap_on_re_us/spitzer_mann_act

Holy cow...if Mr. Spitzer gets convicted and faces 10 years in prison...it will only be harder on his wife and three daughters.

This has now become a case of "you-should-have-thought-about-that-the-first-time."

What will become of the Spitzers when this is said and done?

[CarlE]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080316/ap_on_re_us/spitzer_mann_act

Holy cow...if Mr. Spitzer gets convicted and faces 10 years in prison...it will only be harder on his wife and three daughters.

This has now become a case of "you-should-have-thought-about-that-the-first-time."

What will become of the Spitzers when this is said and done?

I'll take his wife. She's pretty hot!!! LOL.

[dataintsmiff]

Bye, don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!