How would you all feel?

[lobbs]

If the Leaders of Canada, USA, and Mexico all decided to form the North American Union? huh, would you like that? did you know that there are plans for this? now, i'd admit, i'm usually just having fun on this site, but i'm serious this time. They really want to form all three and make the NAU. The dolloar will become the Amerio. It'll be like the European Union. What do you all think?

[DragonTigerNemesis]

Rest assured that it is going to happen, and soon.

The plan among the money people in Europe has been to destroy our dollar and our economy.

They put the plan into effect over twenty years ago, and the mortgage mess last year was the trigger to start the process.

Buy a house in the Bahamas
Get out of debt.

Plan your escape.

:pimp:

[lobbs]

no, i'll build up stock piles of arms and ammo and dig tunnels, and fight a gurrilla war againts the machine! they wont take my land! not without a fight! Join the MCM, The Massillon City Militia will always watch your back! They can take the country, but they WONT take our city! WHOS WITH ME!

[Red50Go]

Rest assured that it is going to happen, and soon.

The plan among the money people in Europe has been to destroy our dollar and our economy.

They put the plan into effect over twenty years ago, and the mortgage mess last year was the trigger to start the process.

Buy a house in the Bahamas
Get out of debt.

Plan your escape.

:pimp:

Actually, that is OUR plan. Some call it weaken, or destroy, the dollar. Politicians call it making it more competitive w/ world economies. Europe wants to buy from us. We want to sell to them. A week dollar encourages that.

A strong dollar encourages other countries, like China, to SELL their goods here. And we are obviously more than happy to accomodate them. Buy American is a joke now.

Personally I agree w/ you. I want a strong dollar. And heavy restrictions on imports, and investments here, not there. And long-term national security. But we are a get rich quick, short sighted, credit dependent society now and that has pervaded all levels of business & government. I am afraid we will be very sorry in the long run.

[Indiana95]

no, i'll build up stock piles of arms and ammo and dig tunnels, and fight a gurrilla war againts the machine! they wont take my land! not without a fight! Join the MCM, The Massillon City Militia will always watch your back! They can take the country, but they WONT take our city! WHOS WITH ME!

Earth to Sandyville Ohio, where ever the hell that is......go get a job and contribute to society. Your games have now been played out.

[lobbs]

c'mon man, you never herd of sandyville? its a nice little town. Yea your right. Im just blowing smoke and mirrors about the Revolution thing. i just wanted to know what you all thought abot the NAU thing, thats all man, settle down. and i have a job, i sell crack...just kidding, see i cant help it. And i will get a job wen i get my degree, for now its back to the midlessness of grinding metal.

[WheatCity]

I don't know why, but I am humbly going to attempt to inject some intelligence into this notion.

There is a school of thought that posits that large, regional powers (a la European Union) actually inhibit the probability of large scale war. But, when war does occur, it is very severe. See the cold war, in which you had 2 spheres of influence (Soviet v. NATO) that produced small proxy wars but not a world immersed in total war. But it was always a button away from full scale annihilation.
But, prior to the cold war, you had a number of fractious moderate powers (Soviets, UK, France, Japan, Germany, US) and this struggle for hegemony produced two large scale, horrific world wars.

So the question is this; if the world was divided into, lets say 4 regional conglomerations (the EU, the American Union - it would involve a sizable portion of S America, the SE Asian Union (China, Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia, etc) and a Central Asian Union (Russia, former Soviet States such as Kazakhastan, Uzbekistan, and India) would this large scale inter-dependability reduce the posibility of large scale war or accelerate large scale war.
Remember, the book 1984 had a system similar to this that carried out large scale fake wars to continue production of war machines to keep their economies from collapsing.

Second, the only way the United States would enter into such a union would be if a) it had become so weak that it needed the pooled natural resources of the entire continent to maintain its relative power or b) it could ensure that it was ALWAYS in control. That is the only reason that NATO existed, American primacy over the military affairs of Europe.

Nations, like people, imitate what works. Lets say that 40 yrs from now the EU is the global super-power, the US may copy their model. But if China continues their climb towards super-power status without alligning themselves in an EU type superstate and maintains their soverignty, the US will probably do the same. Based on the current trajectory of foreign relations,I don't see citizenry of the US approving of a sacrifice of US soverignty.

[Smitty]

If the Leaders of Canada, USA, and Mexico all decided to form the North American Union? huh, would you like that? ....
Isn't it called NAFTA?
No, we don't like it.
Mexicans are moving here and sending dollars to their families there; and our senior citizens are going to Canada to spend dollars on Rx drugs.
What a f---ing mess.

... no, i'll build up stock piles of arms and ammo and dig tunnels, and fight a gurrilla war againts the machine!....
Note to the rest of mp.com readers: I've NOT been sending this guy any literature from Montana. Honest.

... I don't see citizenry of the US approving of a sacrifice of US soverignty.
But this is exactly what George Soros (and Hillary Cliton) want to do.
Those frikkin socialists want a "one world - one government" scenario... and it scares the poop out of me.

[Red50Go]

WC, sorry, not humbly enough. You say what now?

J/k. I get it. But I'll have to think about that more, in terms of our monetary policy. Nice going, lol. Our citizenry aside (sadly), the current trajectory of foreign relations seems to indicate we ARE approving the sacrifice of US sovereignty, imo. And the scary part is that is (or was, shortly) w/ a 2 term Republican in office.

[Mr.Deedee]

If the Leaders of Canada, USA, and Mexico all decided to form the North American Union? huh, would you like that? did you know that there are plans for this? now, i'd admit, i'm usually just having fun on this site, but i'm serious this time. They really want to form all three and make the NAU. The dolloar will become the Amerio. It'll be like the European Union. What do you all think?

What's so new about this idea?? Mayor Cicchinelli has been trying to do this for years. Except he wants to call it "Massillon." Wow--what a football team!!