stacy to green high

[john gault]

I cant put up the link, but the inde reports Stacy will be the next coach at Green high

[hitman]

http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=24675&r=0&Category=2

What a surprise?

[TigerDL71]

I cant put up the link, but the inde reports Stacy will be the next coach at Green high

http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=24675&r=0&Category=2

[proud to be]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

When did this happen????

I can't believe it.....

:smartass:

[CarlE]

I wish Coach Stacy the best of luck and I hope that this helps him to his ultimate goal of getting back in the college ranks. I suspect it will be MUCH easier on his sleep.

Now on to my favorite subject and there is NO WAY I'm letting this one go. Could we PLEASE hear from man2man on how this is what was in the works all along, and how he knew it the whole time, and how this is the best move for him as far as his long-term goals. PLEASE don't let us down. I've been waiting six months for this.

[proud to be]

You know what buddy.... I was gonna post the same question about man2man, but I didn't want to steal your thunder!!!!


I'll be waiting as well

Also.... I agree.....

Good Luck to Coach Stacy at Green High. I hope he does well there.

[Obie Wan]

Best of luck to Stacy. The Green job may prove to be a very good situation for him. Let's hope this works out well for everyone.

[ChronicTiger]

man2man is busy setting up the AV equipment at Green High as we type.......

[Coke Guy]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!

When did this happen????

I can't believe it.....

:smartass:

Nobody likes a smartass. I wish coach Stacy nothing but the best. He has been very good to our family.

[proud to be]

Nobody likes a smartass. I wish coach Stacy nothing but the best. He has been very good to our family.

Easy big fella..... read on to my next post...... I was just making a point that this was old news..

Don't make me drive over there!!!

[Coke Guy]

Easy big fella..... read on to my next post...... I was just making a point that this was old news..

Don't make me drive over there!!!

I'm not afraid of you. You know where I live. Bring something to drink

[proud to be]

I'm not afraid of you. You know where I live. Bring something to drink

Now That's FUNNY!!!!!!!

:drinkem:

[CarlE]

Now That's FUNNY!!!!!!!

:drinkem:

Geez guys give me some notice. I'm in!!

[gotigers1]

Good Luck Coach! Best wishes to you and your family.

[Tiger2001]

so does this mean we are getting the HC from Louisville?

[Purple Hayes]

Congrats to Coach Stacy. I'll echo the thoughts of many on here and wish Coach Stacy the best and think that it will work out best for all involved. I think he'll do a fine job at Green. He's a good man.

[ChronicTiger]

so does this mean we are getting the HC from Louisville?

no...nordonia.........

:deal:

[TigerLily]

He can still use his “orange & black” -- but now will have to turn into a ”bulldog”.

All the best to Coach Stacy in his new position and for many successful years ahead.

[Banks]

no...nordonia.........

:deal:

Nordonia who ?

Or is it Avon Lake ?

[tigrwm]

so does this mean we are getting the HC from Louisville?

Nothing against the coach from Louisville, but Massillon is like night and day from Louisville. The inner city kids of Mass and Canton come with a lot more variety of issues than what he is used to dealing with at a small, isolated place such as Louisville. We better get someone who is not afraid to let them know that he is the boss. We need someone who treats everyone the same no matter how good they think they are (such as missing practices, quiting the team and coming back and stuff like that.) Enough of that
CRAP! GO TIGERS!

[Ms V]

Nothing against the coach from Louisville, but Massillon is like night and day from Louisville. The inner city kids of Mass and Canton come with a lot more variety of issues than what he is used to dealing with at a small, isolated place such as Louisville. We better get someone who is not afraid to let them know that he is the boss. We need someone who treats everyone the same no matter how good they think they are (such as missing practices, quiting the team and coming back and stuff like that.) Enough of that
CRAP! GO TIGERS!

AMEN

[LLRose]

Nothing against the coach from Louisville, but Massillon is like night and day from Louisville. The inner city kids of Mass and Canton come with a lot more variety of issues than what he is used to dealing with at a small, isolated place such as Louisville. We better get someone who is not afraid to let them know that he is the boss. We need someone who treats everyone the same no matter how good they think they are (such as missing practices, quiting the team and coming back and stuff like that.) Enough of that
CRAP! GO TIGERS!

with all due respect, u are way off with your comments regarding the louisville coach. discipline is his greatest coaching strength

[LLRose]

MC i thought tom was going to iowa state, errrrrrrrr BG? what happened?

[tig62]

no...nordonia.........

:deal:

If I were a betting person and knowing what I know, unless somethings change, right now I'd put my money on Tiger2001's table; sorry ChronicTiger. :suspect:

[proud to be]

Nothing against the coach from Louisville, but Massillon is like night and day from Louisville. The inner city kids of Mass and Canton come with a lot more variety of issues than what he is used to dealing with at a small, isolated place such as Louisville. We better get someone who is not afraid to let them know that he is the boss. We need someone who treats everyone the same no matter how good they think they are (such as missing practices, quiting the team and coming back and stuff like that.) Enough of that
CRAP! GO TIGERS!

This kind of thinking is part of our problem.... Massillon is NOT an Inner City school.... and LLRose is correct about the Louisville coach. Whether you think he can do the job or not, you should acquire some information before you make a sweeping generalization like this.

And another thing...... "country" schools kids have problems too... what are you REALLY trying to say here???

[Benchboss1]

MC i thought tom was going to iowa state, errrrrrrrr BG? what happened?

Obviously he was not good enough for the BG job!

[CarlE]

MC i thought tom was going to iowa state, errrrrrrrr BG? what happened?

Much like what happens in the business world, somebody interviews for a job and the person hiring does not feel they are the best candidate. I suspect that MassillonCatholic, in error, just assumed that Coach Stacy would have been the most qualified for both of those positions. Oops.

[freddy g]

Like any other year Massillon or McKinley or any other top program is in the coaching hunt. There are many names that get thrown intot he ring. And some coaches that everyone thinks will apply don't. It all somes down to who applies and who doesn't, then we will know where we stand. IMHO, I would say the top coaches that are in the hunt are....

Jason Hall, Nordonia
John Reed, Coldwater
John Gibbons, Bedford
Paul Farrah, Louisville
Jeff Rotsky, Cleve Hts
Tim Goodwin, Maria Stein Marion Local

I believe that Goodwin and Reed are in good where they're at, and highly doubt that they would leave that "comfort zone". Gibbons is a high profile coach, but has proven over and over at St Ed's he cant get that big win. That leaves us with Reed, Farrah, and Rotsky.

Farrah IS a stand up guy who has his players disciplined. BUT, after many people seen the shalacking that Mentor (spread O) got by St. X. It should make them shy away from that. I really don't see Massillon going to the spread and it would take away the talents of many backs that come through here. Rotsky turned around a run-down program that was on the verge of cutting its football program at Maple Hts. Now one of the top D-2 teams in the Cleveland area. He left to go to Cleveland Hts and after just one year has them turned around and climbing the hill. He is an old-school, hard-nosed type of guy, but didn't we just have one of those coaches a few years ago???

That leaves Jason Hall as the one who stands out. He coaches solid D and runs a balanced offense. Hall wins when nobody expects him to. Not only has he built programs up and make them playoff contenders (Lyndhurst Brush). He has made programs better and stronger (Nordonia) after losing one of the top players that program has seen (Jordan Mabin). Of course this is just my opinion, and I have no inside info like many claim they do, lol.

On a side note, I would love to see a Massillon boy come back. Someone like BJ "bring the" Pain, lol. But at this point I dont think he's quite ready to come back. He's def. the fan favorite I would say, but he's still getting his feet wet in the coaching ranks.

[LLRose]

Like any other year Massillon or McKinley or any other top program is in the coaching hunt. There are many names that get thrown intot he ring. And some coaches that everyone thinks will apply don't. It all somes down to who applies and who doesn't, then we will know where we stand. IMHO, I would say the top coaches that are in the hunt are....

Jason Hall, Nordonia
John Reed, Coldwater
John Gibbons, Bedford
Paul Farrah, Louisville
Jeff Rotsky, Cleve Hts
Tim Goodwin, Maria Stein Marion Local

I believe that Goodwin and Reed are in good where they're at, and highly doubt that they would leave that "comfort zone". Gibbons is a high profile coach, but has proven over and over at St Ed's he cant get that big win. That leaves us with Reed, Farrah, and Rotsky.

Farrah IS a stand up guy who has his players disciplined. BUT, after many people seen the shalacking that Mentor (spread O) got by St. X. It should make them shy away from that. I really don't see Massillon going to the spread and it would take away the talents of many backs that come through here. Rotsky turned around a run-down program that was on the verge of cutting its football program at Maple Hts. Now one of the top D-2 teams in the Cleveland area. He left to go to Cleveland Hts and after just one year has them turned around and climbing the hill. He is an old-school, hard-nosed type of guy, but didn't we just have one of those coaches a few years ago???

That leaves Jason Hall as the one who stands out. He coaches solid D and runs a balanced offense. Hall wins when nobody expects him to. Not only has he built programs up and make them playoff contenders (Lyndhurst Brush). He has made programs better and stronger (Nordonia) after losing one of the top players that program has seen (Jordan Mabin). Of course this is just my opinion, and I have no inside info like many claim they do, lol.

On a side note, I would love to see a Massillon boy come back. Someone like BJ "bring the" Pain, lol. But at this point I dont think he's quite ready to come back. He's def. the fan favorite I would say, but he's still getting his feet wet in the coaching ranks.

quality post, great analysis, however PF 'won' at tuslaw running the wishbone.
versatile/organized/disciplinarian coaching style

[LLRose]

Much like what happens in the business world, somebody interviews for a job and the person hiring does not feel they are the best candidate. I suspect that MassillonCatholic, in error, just assumed that Coach Stacy would have been the most qualified for both of those positions. Oops.

another real world business rational may be his unwillingness to relocate

his qualifications to be a MAC qb coach are not in question, he turned chuckles frye into a 3rd round NFL draft pick

i believe all of you were wrong about tom's intentions, his ultimate goal was not to return to college as all of you incorrectly blasted him for over the last 2 years after everyone wanted to build a statue of him after he had the most successful season in tiger football history over the last 35 years

i hope we give the next guy a chance for long term success

[freddy g]

Oh thats right. He's had such good success at Louisville, many like myself forget he was at Tuslaw too.

[Obie Wan]

Oh thats right. He's had such good success at Louisville, many like myself forget he was at Tuslaw too.
Remember, he's at a D2 school in a D3 league. Having said that, his teams are 26-12 against D1 and D2 teams since 2002.

2007: 6-2
2006: 0-3
2005: 5-1
2004: 5-2
2003: 4-3
2002: 6-1

[SuperBran]

i hear a lot of people bring up hall's name.

here's my question......if we're looking for a guy to be here for a long time, is hall really the right choice? i read that he's coached at three schools in the last five years. if he's a talented young coach, and does well here, he'll get some good offers (most likely some good college offers). how long do we really think he'd stay?

[Banks]

here's my question......if we're looking for a guy to be here for a long time, is hall really the right choice?


Define "long time"

[SuperBran]

Define "long time"

i would define it as 10+ years.

if hall was hired here and did very well, i just don't see him being here past 5 years.

[freddy g]

Will Massillon ever have a coach over 10 years? Highly unlikely. Remember coaches are supposed to come here for 3-5 years and be so good they move on to the college ranks. It's hard to keep a good coach to stay in a high profile high school job. After a few years the colleges will come calling.

[SuperBran]

Will Massillon ever have a coach over 10 years? Highly unlikely. Remember coaches are supposed to come here for 3-5 years and be so good they move on to the college ranks. It's hard to keep a good coach to stay in a high profile high school job. After a few years the colleges will come calling.

i agree. there are a lot of people on here, though, saying that they want a long-time coach here. i'm just wondering if these people would like someone like hall here, who most likely wouldn't be here for a long time.

[Red50Go]

Thats what the interview process is for. If a guy says he wants 3 & out, has college aspirations, or nfl, or to follow his kids, to leave the country, or become an astronaut, then those are clues we should take serious.

Maybe not all, but ALOT of it is in OUR hands. I made the point in another thread. Do you think Coach Kyle (Iggy guy), Reno (Stueby guy), or guys like Vrotsos, Walterhouse, Letcavitz, Huff, Partridge, Stu, even Currence, etc would have gotten "lured away"? How bout Payne? Reed? I dont know. The right guy is out there, the biggest obstacle is OUR commitment. I just hope we learned.

[monte81]

Thats what the interview process is for. If a guy says he wants 3 & out, has college aspirations, or nfl, or to follow his kids, to leave the country, or become an astronaut, then those are clues we should take serious.

Maybe not all, but ALOT of it is in OUR hands. I made the point in another thread. Do you think Coach Kyle (Iggy guy), Reno (Stueby guy), or guys like Vrotsos, Walterhouse, Letcavitz, Huff, Partridge, Stu, even Currence, etc would have gotten "lured away"? How bout Payne? Reed? I dont know. The right guy is out there, the biggest obstacle is OUR commitment. I just hope we learned.

Agree! Some great HS coaches have no desire to coach college football--that is the guy we need right now!!

[Banks]

i would define it as 10+ years.

if hall was hired here and did very well, i just don't see him being here past 5 years.

Would you have been happy if Shep was here another 3 years?

[SuperBran]

Would you have been happy if Shep was here another 3 years?

absolutely not.

[LLRose]

Will Massillon ever have a coach over 10 years? Highly unlikely. Remember coaches are supposed to come here for 3-5 years and be so good they move on to the college ranks. It's hard to keep a good coach to stay in a high profile high school job. After a few years the colleges will come calling.

i totally reject the premise of your post.

1 coach in 35 years has left the tiger program for a college opporortunity. lee owens

[SuperBran]

i totally reject the premise of your post.

1 coach in 35 years has left the tiger program for a college opporortunity. lee owens

what about shep?

[TigerCoach]

i totally reject the premise of your post.

1 coach in 35 years has left the tiger program for a college opporortunity. lee owens

Bob Commings left in 1974 to be Head Coach at Iowa.
Lee Owens, as you stated, left to be an assistant at OSU.
Rick Shepas left in 2005 to be Head Coach & Assistant AD at Waynesburg.
Tom Stacy left this year wanting a college job.

[man2man]

Absolutely thrilled for Coach Stacy and his family. What a great hire for Green.

In 3 years, 26 wins, 3 winning seasons, 5 playoff wins, 3 wins over McKinley, one state final appearance. Not good enough for some, but the next guy will definitely do better, right? :gasp: He has to now, or this move is even dumber than it looks.

Tom's class, intelligence, coaching skills and Christian attitudes will be sorely missed. He always put others first and treated people with respect, win or lose.

Thanks Tom for making Massillon a better team and a better program.

Good luck at Green.

Do they have a website :thumbsup:

[LLRose]

Bob Commings left in 1974 to be Head Coach at Iowa.
Lee Owens, as you stated, left to be an assistant at OSU.
Rick Shepas left in 2005 to be Head Coach & Assistant AD at Waynesburg.
Tom Stacy left this year wanting a college job.

shep was forced out and so was tom, otherwise they would have been extended

my bad, 1 coach has left voluntarily for a college job since 1974. (a long time)

i continue to reject the premise of the post

[Mass6]

Absolutely thrilled for Coach Stacy and his family. What a great hire for Green.

In 3 years, 26 wins, 3 winning seasons, 5 playoff wins, 3 wins over McKinley, one state final appearance. Not good enough for some, but the next guy will definitely do better, right? :gasp: He has to now, or this move is even dumber than it looks.

Tom's class, intelligence, coaching skills and Christian attitudes will be sorely missed. He always put others first and treated people with respect, win or lose.

Thanks Tom for making Massillon a better team and a better program.

Good luck at Green.

Do they have a website :thumbsup:

Please find it and stay there. Time to move on!!

[CarlE]

Do they have a website :thumbsup:


Dear GOD I hope so. Happy trails to you, may we NEVER meet again..........

[Banks]

shep was forced out and so was tom, otherwise they would have been extended

my bad, 1 coach has left voluntarily for a college job since 1974. (a long time)

i continue to reject the premise of the post


Don't kid yourself
Shep's days were numbered.
He would have been fired it that lawsuit ever ended. BTW it is still in the courts.

[man2man]

Farrah can't beat Northwest. But he'll somehow dominate Iggy, Mentor and McK? :laugh:

[CarlE]

Farrah can't beat Northwest. But he'll somehow dominate Iggy, Mentor and McK? :laugh:

Based on your history we KNOW you know nothing about football, but try this on for size. Is it safe to assume he'll have superior talent to what he had at Lake? I don't know, just a thought. There are so many other questions you've left unanswered on here I can't BELIEVE you're actually heading down this path. Of course, not surprised. We've been calling your number in this scenario for two freaking months.

[LLRose]

Farrah can't beat Northwest. But he'll somehow dominate Iggy, Mentor and McK? :laugh:

man2man, i'm with carlE. the need to support tom as the head coach at massillon has come and gone. your support after he accepted the green job (awful job/league) is weird.

you're clueless rearding PF. why trash him?
shouldn't you be more worried about cloverleaf than massillon's next coach?

[OTC TIGER]

[QUOTE=Banks;95752]Don't kid yourself
Shep's days were numbered.
who's kidding who here...you and the gang did anything and everything to run shep outta here because he didn't ki$$ your a** and give hugs & kisses to the gang...let's hope this changes with the next guy

[OTC TIGER]

He would have been fired it that lawsuit ever ended. BTW it is still in the courts.

That lawsuit is :bs: and is babysh** compared to what's in the courts right
now

[CarlE]

your support after he accepted the green job (awful job/league) is weird.



Why is it weird? Surely you didn't fall for his BS about actually knowing Stacy and being a Massillon "fan" did you? If so, please jump over to yappi, do a search on posts for "starkravingdad", see that he's a freaking moron over there who is no more of a Massillon fan than John Brideweiser. THAT, my friend, is your subject here known as man2man. Pretty transparent once you connect the dots, quite honestly.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

i hear a lot of people bring up hall's name.

here's my question......if we're looking for a guy to be here for a long time, is hall really the right choice?


No, he's not.

If we were anywhere near the top of the rung on the coaching ladder, I'd say "maybe."

But we are not, and we are far from it.

Right now we are barely a step up for him, especially if we say that he has to move here.

:kungfu:

[DragonTigerNemesis]

shep was forced out and so was tom, otherwise they would have been extended


Yep, they were forced out.
And they should have been.

Neither one of them should have been hired in the first place.

My biggest concern at this point is what the heck is wrong with the people that interview these guys and make such bad choices.

In my business world, we call it "drinking each other's cool-aid."
They are all so busy believing that they are hearing what they want to hear, that they don't dig into who and what the applicant really is.

:kungfu:

[DragonTigerNemesis]

Thats what the interview process is for..


Thank you for making that post.

Here's a challenge to all you know-it-alls:

Go to the IndeOnLine website.
Do a search for all articles containing "Stacy" between April 1, 2005 and August 31, 2005.

Read every article.

Then, and only then will you be qualified and prepared to come here and spout off on the subject of the interview process.

Stacy more than likely is a good person who is good to people around him.

He did not however, come close to living up to the promises he made before and directly after he was hired.

I, for one, am damn tired of the bashers on here telling us Massillon fans that we are too hard on the coaches and should be supportive no matter what.

The interviewers swallowed what Stacy said hook, line and sinker.
The fans got behind him and gave him every benefit of the doubt.

As we were all leaving the state title game in 05, there was a little nagging doubt starting, but in the fall of 06 we got right back behind him.
As the 06 season came to a close, we saw the sportmanship of the players start to sink, and then came the inexplicable play calling at the end of the Whitmer playoff game.

Still, most of us got behind him for 07.
Yet, from Duncan Plaza on down, we had a sinking feeling.
The fans wanted the coach that was hired to show up, and that coach seemed to move farther away all the time.

Again, go back and read the articles from the time period stated above. You will get your eyes opened.

But, its the people doing the chosing that should be looked at.

Maybe we could get some Human Resources people on the search committee along with the football people.
They are professionals at seeing through a job candidate's BS.

:kungfu:

[tigrwm]

This kind of thinking is part of our problem.... Massillon is NOT an Inner City school.... and LLRose is correct about the Louisville coach. Whether you think he can do the job or not, you should acquire some information before you make a sweeping generalization like this.

And another thing...... "country" schools kids have problems too... what are you REALLY trying to say here???

First of all I did not mean to imply that the Louisville coach does not have disipline. If you would be honest you cannot for a minute think that coaching at Louisville and Massillon would be the same. We have family in Louisville and I am not just throwing comments around. I am sure that Farrah is a fine coach I just don't know if he would be the right person for this job. Massillon is a city not an urban or country school as someone else said.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

First of all I did not mean to imply that the Louisville coach does not have disipline. If you would be honest you cannot for a minute think that coaching at Louisville and Massillon would be the same. We have family in Louisville and I am not just throwing comments around. I am sure that Farrah is a fine coach I just don't know if he would be the right person for this job. Massillon is a city not an urban or country school as someone else said.


Let's call it like it is, shall we?

Louisville is not a tough school in a tough town.

Anyone who thinks the challenge of achieving discipline in Massillon is akin to the challenge of doing the same at Louisville---weel, they must not have been to Louisville lately, or ever at all.

I am no where near sold on the idea that Farrah would have a prayer of standing up to a player's angry great-aunt---let alone what a Massillon coach faces every day during the season.

Get real people!

:kungfu:

[Spark Bibo]

This time let's get a coach who will not only take us to the state title game in his first year, but actually win it! :no1:

[cat]

Tiger Dragon... The Leps could have hung with Massillon easily this year, if not beat us. Our days of glory are fading so it would be wise to watch what we say about other schools.

[TigerSupport]

Much like what happens in the business world, somebody interviews for a job and the person hiring does not feel they are the best candidate. I suspect that MassillonCatholic, in error, just assumed that Coach Stacy would have been the most qualified for both of those positions. Oops.

Then you should understand that it's ALL IN WHO YOU KNOW - just ask the people who hired our new supe who didn't even have a license. :oops2: If you even followed the BG story, Brandon went with an old buddy of his who has head coaching experience in the MAC.

[TigerSupport]

Remember, he's at a D2 school in a D3 league. Having said that, his teams are 26-12 against D1 and D2 teams since 2002.

2007: 6-2
2006: 0-3
2005: 5-1
2004: 5-2
2003: 4-3
2002: 6-1

Ok Obie Wan and those wins against D1 schools are over Federal League opponents who (and I might stretch to say "YOU") according to everyone on here sucks and isn't good enough for Massillon. So your point just went down the toilet.:thumbsdown:

[TigerSupport]

Farrah can't beat Northwest. But he'll somehow dominate Iggy, Mentor and McK? :laugh:

I 2nd, 3rd, and 4th your post my man. IDK how you can disagree. No matter how good Louisville is, they struggle dearly against NW - a DIII school.

[Obie Wan]

Ok Obie Wan and those wins against D1 schools are over Federal League opponents who (and I might stretch to say "YOU") according to everyone on here sucks and isn't good enough for Massillon. So your point just went down the toilet.:thumbsdown:

I wasn't aware that I was attempting to make a point. However, you might note that Louisville has been 4-2 against Hoover the last 6 years (including 3-1 against playoff teams).

2007: Hoover (10-3) W
2006: Hoover (7-3) L
2005: Hoover (7-4) W
2004: Hoover (1-9) W
2003: Hoover (11-1) L
2002: Hoover (8-3) W

[TigerSupport]

ok. Hoover is in the Fed, right? Like I said...Louisville's wins against D1 schools (like Hoover) were against Fed league schools (whom according to most, stink). Unless I misread your post and you weren't defending Louisville. If that's the case, my bad and I apologize.

[Obie Wan]

ok. Hoover is in the Fed, right? Like I said...Louisville's wins against D1 schools (like Hoover) were against Fed league schools (whom according to most, stink). Unless I misread your post and you weren't defending Louisville. If that's the case, my bad and I apologize.

I wasn't defending anyone. I was merely providing information, in the belief that informed discourse is more responsible discourse.

[Seeker]

Tiger Dragon... The Leps could have hung with Massillon easily this year, if not beat us. Our days of glory are fading so it would be wise to watch what we say about other schools.

Quite right, and its also against our rules here to make such a comment.

I will edit it.

:vconst:

[Red50Go]

I 2nd, 3rd, and 4th your post my man. IDK how you can disagree. No matter how good Louisville is, they struggle dearly against NW - a DIII school.

Uhh, we didn't struggle against Normandy or Ursuline? Thank GOD we didn't have to play NW or LSVL last year.

[TigerSupport]

Uhh, we didn't struggle against Normandy or Ursuline? Thank GOD we didn't have to play NW or LSVL last year.

The Ursuline game was never in doubt and Normandy had their best team ever come through there this year. NW and Louisville are good schools but don't have the speed to compete with us - they are great athletes and would have given us a great game but I think I'll give our kids the benefit of the doubt on that one.

[OTC TIGER]

The Ursuline game was never in doubt and Normandy had their best team ever come through there this year. NW and Louisville are good schools but don't have the speed to compete with us - they are great athletes and would have given us a great game but I think I'll give our kids the benefit of the doubt on that one.

1) Ursuline was without their stud QB..

2) Outside of J.T. & K.J. what speed did we have..and we didn't even use what we had (JT)

[CarlE]

they are great athletes and would have given us a great game but I think I'll give our kids the benefit of the doubt on that one.

Um, I don't think it's the talent of the kids that's being questioned here.

[freddy g]

i totally reject the premise of your post.

1 coach in 35 years has left the tiger program for a college opporortunity. lee owens

This is what I love about some posters on here. They like to twist words.
I never said that coaches "do" coach here and then leave to go to college jobs. That's what's expected. Just like championships are expected, but when has that happened last. I meant, can anyone honestly say there will ever be a coach here long enough to see 80 wins??? After Currence got ran out of town, your a fool to believe so.

[DAWGH8R]

1 coach in 35 years ???????


Whe did Shepas go ???????

[proud to be]

1 coach in 35 years ???????


Whe did Shepas go ???????

Who is he???
Never heard of him........

[LLRose]

This is what I love about some posters on here. They like to twist words.
I never said that coaches "do" coach here and then leave to go to college jobs. That's what's expected. Just like championships are expected, but when has that happened last. I meant, can anyone honestly say there will ever be a coach here long enough to see 80 wins??? After Currence got ran out of town, your a fool to believe so.



If you'd have clarified "expected" in your original post i wouldn't have rejected the premise of your original post. It read as if coaches all leave for college positions under their own will.

[Spark Bibo]

Who is Shempas?

[tig62]

Thats what the interview process is for. If a guy says he wants 3 & out, has college aspirations, or nfl, or to follow his kids, to leave the country, or become an astronaut, then those are clues we should take serious.

Maybe not all, but ALOT of it is in OUR hands. I made the point in another thread. Do you think Coach Kyle (Iggy guy), Reno (Stueby guy), or guys like Vrotsos, Walterhouse, Letcavitz, Huff, Partridge, Stu, even Currence, etc would have gotten "lured away"? How bout Payne? Reed? I dont know. The right guy is out there, the biggest obstacle is OUR commitment. I just hope we learned.

The biggest obstacle at this stage, IMHO based on what I know, isn't OUR commitment, but the method/scheme by which the next head coach will be chosen.

P.S. Seeker, I'm holden back, but it ain't easy. :scratchchin:

[Indiana95]

[QUOTE=tigrwm;95536]Nothing against the coach from Louisville, but Massillon is like night and day from Louisville. The inner city kids of Mass and Canton come with a lot more variety of issues than what he is used to dealing with at a small, isolated place such as Louisville. QUOTE]

Massillon = inner city.....LMAO! You need to get out a bit if you think Massillon is inner city. I know it's all relative to each observer, but c'mon man.

The Amish are way too close to be considered an urban area. Unless drive-by pitch forkings have become a problem...LOL

[class10_spiker]

i mean what do you expect everyone gives him so much slack. i mean yes he did make mistakes one was having leisure have so much say in who gets in. That guy plays favorites ever heard of leisure's list

[TigerSupport]

Huh?:huh::stars: