Tiger Power Lifters Win First Meet

[Kamd50]

Congrats to the Tigers on their first win of the season over GlenOak:weightlift:

[LakeCountyTiger]

Is there somewhere we can get the details? Good job guys!

[Kamd50]

Sorry that I don't have any other than I know it wasn't close. Onlookers were not allowed in to observe since there is limited space in the weightroom. I am hoping that it will be possible for the kids to get some kind of sheet or something in practice this week, I really don't know, unless someone happens to get on here who has that info.

[LakeCountyTiger]

Do we have a list of the kids on the team?

[Kamd50]

Revised list of team members, omitting the quitters that we know of at the present time. If I am in error in any way, please feel free to let me know.

Cooper Ivan Jr
Tyler Relford Jr
Joe Ivanic Jr
Justin Ricker Soph
Chris Williams Soph
Jacob Westfall Jr
Keith Dingler Jr
Jeff Meyers ?
Matt Patterson Jr
Brian Arelt Jr
Seth Stanton Jr
Kyle Pizzino Jr
Aaron White Soph
Aaron Robey Fr
Tyler Miller Fr
Dannie Mack Fr
Tim Busson Fr
Hunter Holderbaum Fr

James Hawley Jr
Calob Johnson Jr
Brent Hoiland Jr
Anthony Hoskinson Jr
Anthony Burrows Jr
Adam Cunningham Sr ?
Victor Durst Soph

[LakeCountyTiger]

Impressive list, that's great to see so many. Thanks for posting all the info, it's appreciated

[austinsm11]

Wow...that list is huge. Congrats on the win.

[Tigerfan]

What kind of competition is it where fans cant watch? Or, is this just a glenoak thing?

This was just a practice competition. The kids did an awesome job though!

[tiger51]

Can/will a post be made stating when their meets are and the location? I know I would love to come watch/support them....that is a great list...a lot of kids usually equals great competition between members in each weight class....keep us posted with anything would be helpful. Who is coaching the team this year?

[Dingma608]

The Powerlifting Team has a meet at Danville on February 23rd and at Zanesville on March 8th. Those are the only other 2 on the schedule. Coach Sifferlin leads Massillon Power.

[Kamd50]

Also Dan Weber and Mat Leisure are assist. coaches.

[tiger51]

The Powerlifting Team has a meet at Danville on February 23rd and at Zanesville on March 8th. Those are the only other 2 on the schedule. Coach Sifferlin leads Massillon Power.


Thanks for that info...but WOW, those are going to be some drives.... :) as they get closer to the meets could you post directions or names of locations that the meets are held...thanks for your help.

[slob55]

I thought they were going back to Bucyrus this year?

[Tiger77]

I thought they were going back to Bucyrus this year?

Danville and Zanesville are the only two on the schedule.

[Kamd50]

Massillon Tiger Power Lifters will have a meet this Saturday at Danville

From their website:
The 2008 Danville Power Lifting

Meet will be February 23rd to sign up please contact Coach O'Rourke 740-599-6116 ext 5238 also you can e mail him at joro1957@yahoo.com.

There will be a Freshmen and Sophomore Division and a Junior and Senior Division.

http://www.danvillefootball.com/powerlifting.htm

Unfortunately, it seems that a rather large number of team members have quit on their fellow teammates. Quite a few of them were leaders (well as far as their lifts were concerned) in their weight classes and this is probably going to greatly hurt the rest of the team who have stuck in there.

I understand that a kid might have a problem with a coach or w/e from time to time, but whatever happened to sticking it out, self-discipline, putting the team ahead of yourself and so on? Then it seems like once one kid quit, the pack followed suit. Very sad indeed.

So let's give these kids support and best wishes this weekend at their first legitimate meet cause they're gonna need all the help they can get.

GO TIGERS!!!!

[captain]

I understand that a kid might have a problem with a coach or w/e from time to time, but whatever happened to sticking it out, self-discipline, putting the team ahead of yourself and so on? Then it seems like once one kid quit, the pack followed suit. Very sad indeed.

Indeed very sad. I was aware that several kids were going to leave the powerlifting program because of a certain coach - who appears to not be very well liked - but, most importantly not respected by the players. We have already, i believe, have had one player transfer to another school because of this coach. However, I wish the kids would have stayed with the program for the the good of the team, and for themselves.

[Kamd50]

I understand that a kid might have a problem with a coach or w/e from time to time, but whatever happened to sticking it out, self-discipline, putting the team ahead of yourself and so on? Then it seems like once one kid quit, the pack followed suit. Very sad indeed.

Indeed very sad. I was aware that several kids were going to leave the powerlifting program because of a certain coach - who appears to not be very well liked - but, most importantly not respected by the players. We have already, i believe, have had one player transfer to another school because of this coach. However, I wish the kids would have stayed with the program for the the good of the team, and for themselves.

At first thought, our son came to us and said he felt like quitting because of so many other guys already had, but one look from his father was all he needed to be reminded of the rules in our house. Simply that once you start something, you do not quit. Barring that something absolutely horrendously treacherous personally happened to them, you stay with the plan and follow through.

What are our young men learning if they are allowed to quit and give up on something that they made a commitment to the minute they are faced with adversity or a coach that they may not happen to like or some rules that they don't want to particularly agree with? IMHO, absolutely nothing. Seeing something through to the end builds character in a young adult and teaches them that they have an obligation to others and not only themselves when they decide to become a part of a TEAM.

Then, at least, they can be proud of themselves and learn a little bit more of what they are made. And if the problem, whatever it is, still happens to be present the next season, then don't join up next time and you won't be responsible for letting your teammates down and leaving the team high and dry.

[Seeker]

At first thought, our son came to us and said he felt like quitting because of so many other guys already had, but one look from his father was all he needed to be reminded of the rules in our house. Simply that once you start something, you do not quit. Barring that something absolutely horrendously treacherous personally happened to them, you stay with the plan and follow through.

What are our young men learning...

The bold emphasis is mine.

But first, whadaya mean "men?"

Lady, I know you better than that!
The rules at our house have always been the same for the girls.

You do not quit, unless there is a darn good reason, and then you go face-to-face with the person in charge and explain your reasons, without mommy or daddy there to back you up.

Damn, this whole subject really pisses me off.

These guys parents probably think they are good parents.
Too bad they are trying to raise losers and quitters.

Good luck to our next football coach, is all I can say to this one.

:crap:

[Kamd50]

You are absolutely correct. And the same rules have always applied in our house to the girls as well as the boys. We do not live by two different standards according to what sex one may happen to be.

My reference to men was meant as to this particular situation. I am equally po'd about this whole situation also, and then some. I guess it all goes hand in hand with the attitude of people not expecting sons and daughters to be held accountable for their own actions or for even being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Too many parents these days are more worried about making excuses for their kids or for providing them an easy way out of things instead of actually letting them go through a valuable experience and benefit from being able to handle it or answer for themselves.

[Obie Wan]

We have already, i believe, have had one player transfer to another school because of this coach.
As disappointing as this may seem to be, it does not reflect well on the parents of the young man that he would be allowed to transfer for such a petty reason.

And it must be said: we're far better off to have those types out of the picture completely than to have them eating away at the team from within. The elimination of attitudes like this will likely prove to be a long-term benefit both to those who have the guts and character to stick it out and to school as a whole.

[Seeker]

I agree with your post Obie Wan.

But I still feel for the kids that are being raised this way.

[captain]

Obie Wan, Kamd50 and Seeker,

I agree with your comments - and, time is of the essence - we need a head coach to come on board straight away and turn this situation around. At this point the kids have no leader - not so good.

[tiger51]

Wow this is horrible....quitting on your team????WTF...I am sorry but that just don't fly with me...I mean I have no clue which coach you are talking about (nor do I need to know) but can it be THAT BAD to just up and quit on your teammates? Sad situation....GL to the lifters that stayed.

[Red50Go]

Dont we still have a head coach and Dean of Students on the payroll? I say LEAVE NOW if you are going to continue to let things deteriorate. Time for the other coaches who WANT TO STAY to STEP the F UP!!! This crap is 3 years running and I am sick of it.

[Kamd50]

[QUOTE=Kamd50;92553]Revised list of team members, omitting the quitters that we know of at the present time. If I am in error in any way, please feel free to let me know.

Cooper Ivan Jr
Tyler Relford Jr
Joe Ivanic Jr
Justin Ricker Soph
Chris Williams Soph
Jacob Westfall Jr
Keith Dingler Jr
Jeff Meyers ?
Matt Patterson Jr
Brian Arelt Jr
Seth Stanton Jr
Kyle Pizzino Jr
Aaron Robey Fr
Tyler Miller Fr
Dannie Mack Fr
Tim Busson Fr
Hunter Holderbaum Fr

James Hawley Jr
Calob Johnson Jr
Brent Hoiland Jr
Anthony Hoskinson Jr
Anthony Burrows Jr

I will update this further as I receive more information

[Tiger77]

Dont we still have a head coach and Dean of Students on the payroll? I say LEAVE NOW if you are going to continue to let things deteriorate. Time for the other coaches who WANT TO STAY to STEP the F UP!!! This crap is 3 years running and I am sick of it.

Aren't you tired of bashing yet? I'm tired of reading it. Get a new complaint will you?

[Red50Go]

Aren't you tired of bashing yet? I'm tired of reading it. Get a new complaint will you?

No, not really. I am more tired of our attitude problem, and the program falling further behind. I've read your posts and my outlook is as positive as yours bro. But we need to turn this around, quick.

[Tiger77]

I agree we need to turn things around but we're not going to achieve that goal by continuing to bash a lame duck coach. The fact is, he still holds a position on the staff and is a respected mentor to many kids on the team, especially the returning seniors. It's tough to have to answer the kids questions about why we got rid of their coach. It doesn't help when they read the negative stuff on the web. Many of the players are working hard in the off season and to lump them all together as attitudes and quitters is not fair. And, he does not coach the powerlifting team. He oversees the lifting of the rest of the football team, but power is coached by Sifferlin, Weber and Leisure. Give the guy a break.

[Kamd50]

Updated:
Revised list of team members, omitting the quitters that we know of at the present time. If I am in error in any way, please feel free to let me know.

Cooper Ivan Jr
Tyler Relford Jr
Joe Ivanic Jr
Justin Ricker Soph
Chris Williams Soph
Jacob Westfall Jr
Keith Dingler Jr
Jeff Meyers ?
Matt Patterson Jr
Brian Arelt Jr
Seth Stanton Jr
Kyle Pizzino Jr
Aaron Robey Fr
Tyler Miller Fr
Dannie Mack Fr
Tim Busson Fr
Hunter Holderbaum Fr

James Hawley Jr
Calob Johnson Jr
Brent Hoiland Jr
Anthony Hoskinson Jr
Anthony Burrows Jr

With the addition of Spencer Leno Soph and Jamison Heath-gate Jr

[Obie Wan]

Revised list of team members, omitting the quitters that we know of at the present time.
You shouldn't have edited the roster you posted a few days ago. The difference in the two would have been most illuminating.

[tigermom95]

I personally know that my son was late to practice because musical practice ran over a few minutes and when he arrived at powerlifting practice his coach was very vocal about what type of person my son is... as well as other boys who were in the musical..
We didn't raise our son to be a quitter and he has always finished what he started But in this instance I don't blame him and I stand behind him 100 %
I will never stand behind a coach who name calls and belittles athletes for trying to experience different things through out their High School Career.

I also wont stand behind people who think they know whats going on and bashing parents when they have NO CLUE

[Kamd50]

You shouldn't have edited the roster you posted a few days ago. The difference in the two would have been most illuminating.

Sorry about that. However, it's pretty telling that the number of Srs. has reduced drastically. And, after thinking about your other post, if this is the kind of attitude these kids have then I will be glad to see them go after this season as well. They are definately not a good example to the younger classmen.

My son tried to confront a few of these guys who include some that some fans would have considered leaders on the football team this year. But the most intelligent reply he received from those that he asked why they quit was "because it's gay". Wow, that's real leadership quality there, isn't it?

[Kamd50]

A quitter is a quitter.

[Obie Wan]

However, it's pretty telling that the number of Srs. has reduced drastically.
That's the first thing that I noticed. It might explain quite a bit.

[CarlE]

Is there a dress code, or "proper attire" required for these workouts?

[Kamd50]

Yes

[siberiantigerman]

Tigermom, you got your facts wrong. The team is suppose to wear a uniform each day to practice, he did not have the uniform on, was asked to put it on and used a profanity towards all the coaches including the football coaches sitting in the hallway. He preceded into the weight room after he was told to leave and again was told to leave and then again called the coach a name.

At no time has any of the coaches told any athletes not to go musicals. They have encouraged students to use that as an avenue to market themselves. Once again you do not know your facts and should ask your son the truth. Everyone on the team saw what happened.

We have a very classy coach that has never called anyone a name. Our coach is trying to instill unity within our program and your son would not comply. You should be reprimanded for you inadequate accusations and be banned from this site for trying to destroy a good mans reputation.

We only hope your son does not do that at Ball State where his scholarship will be revoked if he acts like he did in our weight room.

[siberiantigerman]

Lets take it farther so everyone knows. There is a weightroom attendance policy. When a player misses 3 days they are suspended from the weight lifting cycle and told to come back for the new cycle. Kids are not quitting they are not showing up for workouts and are told to leave till the next period starts.

Remember powerlifting is part of football for the guys that play that sport. If they do not show up consistently they are told to leave hence the diminished numbers on the powerlifting roster.

It is amazing that the parents complaining on this site have never asked for a meeting or come in to talk to a coach. They want to do it on this site to try to exploit incorrect information and be negative.

[OldSchoolObie]

Updated:
Revised list of team members, omitting the quitters that we know of at the present time. If I am in error in any way, please feel free to let me know.

Cooper Ivan Jr
Tyler Relford Jr
Joe Ivanic Jr
Justin Ricker Soph
Chris Williams Soph
Jacob Westfall Jr
Keith Dingler Jr
Jeff Meyers ?
Matt Patterson Jr
Brian Arelt Jr
Seth Stanton Jr
Kyle Pizzino Jr
Aaron Robey Fr
Tyler Miller Fr
Dannie Mack Fr
Tim Busson Fr
Hunter Holderbaum Fr

James Hawley Jr
Calob Johnson Jr
Brent Hoiland Jr
Anthony Hoskinson Jr
Anthony Burrows Jr

With the addition of Spencer Leno Soph and Jamison Heath-gate Jr



Senior Blake Seidler is also on the team.

Just a little note, there were five seniors when powerlifting started.

[cat]

Amen Siberian. People talk about lack of discipline all the time, but when the punishment is thrown down people cannot handle it. You miss ONE practice when I played you were punished by demotion to second team and be ready to vomit because you were RUNNING. BEST OF ALL THE PARENTS STAYED OUT OF IT! Parents need to cut the umbilical cord and let their son's grow up.

[OldSchoolObie]

Talked to a few members of the Powerlifting Squad today. All seem to have same story as Kamd.


Awww.. lier lier pants on :obiefanfire:

[#56tigerdad]

I know one senior is Blake Seidler, who was unable to attend the meet due to illness. He will be at Zanesville.

[Tiger2009]

Speaking of the power lifters does anyone happen to have the logo of the skull and the to bars the make and X on it? if so would you please PM it to me thanks

[FENTON 57]

I know of a kid personally who quit because he wanted to go out for track and concentrate on afterschool choir sessions.

So don't everyone assume it's a discipline problem with everyone who quit

[siberiantigerman]

Hey Fenton, when a young man makes a commitment to his team he should keep it. Every kid knew when the power lifting season would be done. To quit on the whole team right before the meets and on the other team members is poor judgement. Power lifting is a winter sport just like the rest of them.

The team has many kids that sing in choir and it is not a problem for them. I am guessing the workouts were to hard for the kid and he quit.

A quitter is a quitter!

[FENTON 57]

Didn't mean to offend you. Everyones circumstance is different.......I sent you a p.m.

[Tiger77]

The Powerlifting Team will compete at Zanesville tomorrow. They've been working really hard and are determined to bring home another win. Good luck guys! Go Tigers!

[Dingma608]

The Tiger Powerlifting Team has decided not to attend the meet at Zanesville due to the weather. Keep working hard guys.

[Kamd50]

I understood that it was cancelled. Idk if they reschedule these meets or not, but I sure hope so since this was to be the only other one they are participating in.

Maybe siberiantigerman will get on here and straighten me out. On second though, that might be pretty hard to do, so I better rephrase that:wink: Maybe he can clear that question up for us,lol

[Kamd50]

I found this on Action 19 pertaining to Zanesville:

"A 20-mile stretch of Interstate 70 in eastern Ohio near Zanesville was closed Friday afternoon after a semi went off the road and blocked traffic on the eastbound side and five tractor-trailers became entangled in an accident in the westbound lanes.

"There were semis pretty much everywhere," said Kate Stickle, a district spokeswoman for the Ohio Department of Transportation. "There were two that wound up in the median, there were two in the road, and there was one that rolled over on its side." She did not know whether anyone was injured.

ODOT expected the westbound lanes to remain closed for the rest of the day, Stickle said."

[man2man]

Power lifting is becoming a very popular sport throughout the state. Many foorball players are finding it a more suitable alternative to wrestling.