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Big W 36
01-18-2008, 11:45 AM
Amazing, the entire football squad [ players ] were Massillon products. No transfers from out of town, state, neighboring schools, etc..
Record 6-3-1.
Prove me wrong, if you can.. Carl E, this one should be right up your alley.
DAWGH8R
01-18-2008, 11:58 AM
What year did Offenbecher arrive ??
DAWGH8R
01-18-2008, 12:01 PM
I think Smitty played in '75 !!
CarlE
01-18-2008, 12:16 PM
I think Smitty was gone. Todd Keller was the QB, we had the Harmons, Glenn Arner, Dan Nagle, Mike Lauber, Bill Bammerlin, Craig Sampsel. Gosh, that's some of them anyway. I'm sure I'll remember more. And let's not forget that juggernaut of a coach then, too. Mr. Worthington Steel himself, Chuck Shuff.
ChronicTiger
01-18-2008, 12:17 PM
Amazing, the entire football squad [ players ] were Massillon products. No transfers from out of town, state, neighboring schools, etc..
Record 6-3-1.
Prove me wrong, if you can.. Carl E, this one should be right up your alley.
What are you getting at?
:eek2:
TigerCoach
01-18-2008, 12:58 PM
Brent Offenbecher played in the 1976 season. I remember they beat McK 7-3 when they ran "T-45 Dive Option" and Brent faked the handoff and pitched to Mike Grove (I think?) around left end for the winning TD. It was in the corner by the current locker room. It was Mike Currence's first season and they ended up going 8-2, losing the 1st two games to Middletown and Upper Arlington.
massillon catholic
01-18-2008, 01:09 PM
I think Smitty was gone. Todd Keller was the QB, we had the Harmons, Glenn Arner, Dan Nagle, Mike Lauber, Bill Bammerlin, Craig Sampsel. Gosh, that's some of them anyway. I'm sure I'll remember more. And let's not forget that juggernaut of a coach then, too. Mr. Worthington Steel himself, Chuck Shuff.
I thought Shuff went 5-5
CarlE
01-18-2008, 01:15 PM
I thought Shuff went 5-5
No, knucklehead. Perhaps you remember this: "Nordonia WHO"?????
massillon catholic
01-18-2008, 01:16 PM
No, knucklehead. Perhaps you remember this: "Nordonia WHO"?????
I was there.
CarlE
01-18-2008, 01:40 PM
I was there.
Then you know we TIED them!! Right?
massillon catholic
01-18-2008, 02:02 PM
Then you know we TIED them!! Right?
I was only arounbd 10 years old. I didnt realize that Shuff was the coach of that team. I thought it was currence.
Obie Wan
01-18-2008, 02:58 PM
Brent Offenbecher played in the 1976 season. I remember they beat McK 7-3 when they ran "T-45 Dive Option" and Brent faked the handoff and pitched to Mike Grove (I think?) around left end for the winning TD. It was in the corner by the current locker room. It was Mike Currence's first season and they ended up going 8-2, losing the 1st two games to Middletown and Upper Arlington.
It was Middletown and Gahanna Lincoln to start the year, and I'm pretty sure that Bret Traylor was the QB.
CarlE
01-18-2008, 04:33 PM
It was Middletown and Gahanna Lincoln to start the year, and I'm pretty sure that Bret Traylor was the QB.
Yes it was. Yes he was.
DAWGH8R
01-18-2008, 04:43 PM
So, back to the 'original' question: Were there any transfers on that team ??
Smitty
01-18-2008, 04:46 PM
I think Smitty was gone. Todd Keller was the QB, ....
I graduated May '75; classmates with QB / captain Greg Wood, other captains were Mark Streeter, Joey Studer, & Tim Gutschall. Eddie Bell was the "hero" of the '74 McK game.
For the '75 season, Carl is correct: Todd Keller was QB. Bill & Keith Harmon were seniors.
Shuff was coach for the '74 and '75 seasons. Good story: Shuff comes to WHS shortly after being hired and calls a "players" meeting in that classroom that was used for drivers ed. (can't recall the ol' room numbers!) He tell us: workouts and practices are gonna be tough, "I'm not here to make things easy on you guys. I was hired to come here and win 12 games." (insinuating that he'd win 10 regular season games & 2 playoff games) He didn't frikking know it'd take him TWO YEARS to win his 12 games!!
Currence was coach for the '76 season. Brett Traylor was QB. I do believe Offenbecher got a li'l bit of play time that year as soph.
The Nordonia game was '75 season... blame Shuff.
mmauthor
01-18-2008, 07:29 PM
So that's where Shuff went wrong...He thought he was supposed to win 12 games in two years. That's a classic! Offenbecher did play a little in 1976. He threw a touchdown on his first pass as a Tiger, but may not have completed any more that year. Can anyone name another Massillon quarterback whose first pass was for a touchdown? I think you have to name Greg Wood as at least the co-star of that '74 McKinley game Smitty! Harmon said he thinks that win kept Shuff from losing his job after his first season. Current McKinley AD Jeff Lab played a pretty good game against McK that day, too. That was just an all-around great game in the series. Grizzard was another great athlete from that era who never got enough carries in high school. When he and Harmon squared off in junior high it was exciting.
Kamd50
01-18-2008, 08:04 PM
:smile: I always love hearing your personal stories when it comes to Massillon's past football seasons. Thanks for sharing!
LakeCountyTiger
01-18-2008, 08:47 PM
So that's where Shuff went wrong...He thought he was supposed to win 12 games in two years. That's a classic! Offenbecher did play a little in 1976. He threw a touchdown on his first pass as a Tiger, but may not have completed any more that year. Can anyone name another Massillon quarterback whose first pass was for a touchdown? I think you have to name Greg Wood as at least the co-star of that '74 McKinley game Smitty! Harmon said he thinks that win kept Shuff from losing his job after his first season. Current McKinley AD Jeff Lab played a pretty good game against McK that day, too. That was just an all-around great game in the series. Grizzard was another great athlete from that era who never got enough carries in high school. When he and Harmon squared off in junior high it was exciting.
If anyone did throw a TD on his first pass, it might have been a HB option, like a Brian Gamble .. I remember a fake field goal against McKinley too,the holder threw a TD pass but I think he was the back up QB, so it probably wasn't his first pass.
zappa
01-18-2008, 08:56 PM
So, back to the 'original' question: Were there any transfers on that team ??John Parsons was on the team and he transferred in from Alliance. Coach Graham, our secondary coach, was a coach at Alliance before coming to Massillon, brought him in. He was the only transfer.
tigersrbest
01-18-2008, 09:51 PM
Was Joe Sparma's pass to Clyde Childers in the '57 Warren "clock" game his first in a varsity game? If so, what a great way to start!
mmauthor
01-19-2008, 12:25 AM
Haven't seen the quarterback name I'm looking for. This person was a true quarterback, though. He even played quarterback for an Ohio college. Sparma had been rotating in at quarterback before he made the historic TD pass against Warren in 1957.
Does anyone connected with Massillon consider 6-3-1 a successful season?
slider63
01-19-2008, 11:35 AM
Tiger Coach and mmauthor, let me correct your memory a bit about Brent Offenbecher. He came to Massillon in 1977 as a junior and his first pass was that year against Barberton. His first Mckinley game was the snow bowl 21-0 win at Fawcett stadium and he had a fantastic game. The 76 Mckinley game was quarterbacked by Brett Traylor which Massillon won 7-3 and it was freezing cold that day with bailes of hay on the sidelines for warmth. They didn't help, lol. Brett Traylor is also the uncle of this past years running back KJ Herring. I think Ray Ellis was the Mckinley star that year and an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty on the Mckinley coach Brideweiser was instrumental in our win that day. Slider, out!!!
PS- Mmauthor is the name to your question either Schwartz or Larson? The spelling may not be correct. I think Schwartz played for Leo Strang in college.
npaflas
01-19-2008, 12:31 PM
What year did Offenbecher arrive ??
I think he came in 1977.
mmauthor
01-19-2008, 06:12 PM
I rarely question Slider63's Massillon expertise, but Offenbecher came to Massillon as a sophomore and threw the touchdown pass against Barberton in 1976. Offenbecher said people called him Currence's first recruit.
Now there may be more than two Massillon quarterbacks whose first pass went for a touchdown...but I know for sure there is one more. It's not Schwartz or Larson I'm alluding to.
LakeCountyTiger
01-19-2008, 06:41 PM
How about Zwick?
Kamd50
01-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Come on now gentlemen, the cleanup necessary on this thread was getting out of hand. Please, out of consideration for the posters who are enjoying and contributing to this thread, knock it off.
These were the offensive and defensive players for game 1 against Mentor in 1975 as reported by the Inde
MASSILLON
Offense
Ends – Bill Bammerlin (6-2, 170, Sr.); Mark Matie (6-1, 220, Sr.).
Tackles – Mike Lauber (6-0, 205, Sr.) Sylvester Drobney (6-1, 220, Sr.);
Guards – Todd Schumacher (6-1, 200, Sr.); Carl Christoff, (5-9, 180, Sr.).
Center – Dan Nagle (6-0, 225, Sr.).
Quarterback – Todd Keller (6-1, 185, Sr.).
Halfbacks – Tom Grizzard (6-0, 180, Sr.); Jeff Lab (6-1, 195, Sr.).
Fullback – Bill Harmon (6-1, 237, Sr.).
Defense
Ends – Keith Harmon (6-1, 195, Sr.); Lauber.
Tackles – Steve Easter (6-2, 205, Sr.); Nagle.
Middle Guard – Jesse Toles (6-0, 195, Jr.).
Linebackers – Lab; Grizzard.
Secondary – Glenn Arner (6-1, 175, Sr.); Harold Dorsey (6-1, 190, Sr.); Don Stewart (5-10, 160, Sr.); Willie Conley (6-0, 175).
cfultonTIGER
01-20-2008, 09:56 AM
i remember going to the alliance game at tiger stadium with my dad , raining like all hell , all my dad kept telling me , watch for a big night out of billy harmon at running back , if i remember , we lost , score was like 6 to 3 , what a night ,
Rushfan
01-20-2008, 12:08 PM
i remember going to the alliance game at tiger stadium with my dad , raining like all hell , all my dad kept telling me , watch for a big night out of billy harmon at running back , if i remember , we lost , score was like 6 to 3 , what a night ,
I remember that game,too. We had just beaten Warren 17-0 the week before and they were defending state champs and I believe undefeated coming into their game with us. The next week against Alliance,we were flat as a pancake and could get nothing going on offense.The Aviators had one of their usual mediocre teams,so it wasn't anything they did. I don't remember it raining that night,though. You may be thinking of two years before (1973);that was my senior year,and it was pouring at the Alliance game that night.We won that one 54-0.
Big W 36
01-20-2008, 06:44 PM
:thumbsup:
Thanks for the input. This was a Trivia Queston. I was told the 1975 Team was the answer. Now I can go back and tell the person ,John Parsons transferred in from Alliance.
CarlE
01-20-2008, 08:57 PM
i remember going to the alliance game at tiger stadium with my dad , raining like all hell , all my dad kept telling me , watch for a big night out of billy harmon at running back , if i remember , we lost , score was like 6 to 3 , what a night ,
See, if your Dad had listened to me more he would have been way smarter than he was to make a WRONG comment like that. Later on, he started paying a little bit better attention!!! LOL.
npaflas
01-20-2008, 09:34 PM
These were the offensive and defensive players for game 1 against Mentor in 1975 as reported by the Inde
MASSILLON
Offense
Ends – Bill Bammerlin (6-2, 170, Sr.); Mark Matie (6-1, 220, Sr.).
Tackles – Mike Lauber (6-0, 205, Sr.) Sylvester Drobney (6-1, 220, Sr.);
Guards – Todd Schumacher (6-1, 200, Sr.); Carl Christoff, (5-9, 180, Sr.).
Center – Dan Nagle (6-0, 225, Sr.).
Quarterback – Todd Keller (6-1, 185, Sr.).
Halfbacks – Tom Grizzard (6-0, 180, Sr.); Jeff Lab (6-1, 195, Sr.).
Fullback – Bill Harmon (6-1, 237, Sr.).
Defense
Ends – Keith Harmon (6-1, 195, Sr.); Lauber.
Tackles – Steve Easter (6-2, 205, Sr.); Nagle.
Middle Guard – Jesse Toles (6-0, 195, Jr.).
Linebackers – Lab; Grizzard.
Secondary – Glenn Arner (6-1, 175, Sr.); Harold Dorsey (6-1, 190, Sr.); Don Stewart (5-10, 160, Sr.); Willie Conley (6-0, 175).
Wasn't Eddie Golf on the team.
npaflas
01-20-2008, 09:39 PM
If i remember right we stop Warren 3 times at the goal line that year.
i remember going to the alliance game at tiger stadium with my dad , raining like all hell , all my dad kept telling me , watch for a big night out of billy harmon at running back , if i remember , we lost , score was like 6 to 3 , what a night ,
Here's the game story as reported by CHUCK HESS, JR. Independent Sports Editor
Alliance makes its season with 6-3 win
http://www.massillontigers.com/statistics/1975/np_alliance_75.htm
Smitty
01-21-2008, 10:03 AM
Wasn't Eddie Golf on the team.
If you mean Eddie GOFF, who was @ 6'3" (or so) and 330 lbs, he graduated in '75.
slider63
01-21-2008, 10:45 AM
As usual, mmauthor is correct when it comes to Massillon info. After checking I discovered that Brent Offenbecher was 1 for 11 in varsity games as a Soph. which was the 1976 season. Sorry for doubting the master mmauthor. Slider, out!!!
monte81
01-21-2008, 11:43 AM
Haven't seen the quarterback name I'm looking for. This person was a true quarterback, though. He even played quarterback for an Ohio college. Sparma had been rotating in at quarterback before he made the historic TD pass against Warren in 1957.
Does anyone connected with Massillon consider 6-3-1 a successful season?
HELL YEAH!! Anything more than 2 losses in a season and no playoffs is a failure IMHO! However a 7-3 team that is real good and played a heavy schedule can be considered great teams ie: 1988 and 1991! 1991 team made it the semis losing to Iggy and 1988 team was suspended from the playoffs but the defense only gave up 10.9 points a game(top5 in the last 30 or so years) led by 5 DI players on the defense!
mmauthor
01-22-2008, 12:36 AM
There's no doubt we've had some good three loss teams...you've mentioned a couple. It's pretty amazing that a team that only gave up 70 points in 10 games could lose three times (86).
monte81
01-22-2008, 08:43 AM
There's no doubt we've had some good three loss teams...you've mentioned a couple. It's pretty amazing that a team that only gave up 70 points in 10 games could lose three times (86).
The 1986 Tigers had 21 DI players on the team counting Sophs:
Jerrod Vance---Penn State
Lance Hostetler---Michigan State
Mike Norris----Minnesoda
Todd Perdue---Illinois State?
Erik White---Miami
John Miller---Indiana
Jerome Myricks---Central State
Matt Swank---Eastern Michigan
John Woodlock---Michigan
John Shilling---OSU
Craig York--- U. of Penn
James Bullock----NC State
Bart Lectivitis--Miami
Mike Wilson---??? Wnet somewhere but I cannot remember
Steve Sigenthaler---Eastern Michigan
Gruno, Hoggy Phiester, Mike Harris, CJ HArris, Jeff Harig, Donnie Gerber, Wrentie martin, Tony Lambert, etc,... also went to college!!!!
I know I am missing a few upperclassmen that may have went DI and a few others who played some college football.
Sophs on the team:
M. McGuire---UC
Liggett---Kansas
Dunwiddie---Pitt
J. Stafford----YSU
(FR.)Lee Hurst---Akron
Jeff Mayle---Tenn State
Tigerdad
01-31-2008, 08:26 PM
There's no doubt we've had some good three loss teams...you've mentioned a couple. It's pretty amazing that a team that only gave up 70 points in 10 games could lose three times (86).
Take away the Mck game and our D gave up a TD or less with 4 shutouts that year. If we had a passing attack,... who knows!
PS, E, your still ugly, and little! hope all is well.
CarlE
01-31-2008, 09:34 PM
Take away the Mck game and our D gave up a TD or less with 4 shutouts that year. If we had a passing attack,... who knows!
PS, E, your still ugly, and little! hope all is well.
Thirty years later and you're STILL not willing to forgive poor Todd Keller. Shame on you, you big LUG!!! Hope the family is doing well!!
LakeCountyTiger
01-31-2008, 10:05 PM
The 1986 Tigers had 21 DI players on the team counting Sophs:
Jerrod Vance---Penn State
Lance Hostetler---Michigan State
Mike Norris----Minnesoda
Todd Perdue---Illinois State?
Erik White---Miami
John Miller---Indiana
Jerome Myricks---Central State
Matt Swank---Eastern Michigan
John Woodlock---Michigan
John Shilling---OSU
Craig York--- U. of Penn
James Bullock----NC State
Bart Lectivitis--Miami
Mike Wilson---??? Wnet somewhere but I cannot remember
Steve Sigenthaler---Eastern Michigan
Gruno, Hoggy Phiester, Mike Harris, CJ HArris, Jeff Harig, Donnie Gerber, Wrentie martin, Tony Lambert, etc,... also went to college!!!!
I know I am missing a few upperclassmen that may have went DI and a few others who played some college football.
Sophs on the team:
M. McGuire---UC
Liggett---Kansas
Dunwiddie---Pitt
J. Stafford----YSU
(FR.)Lee Hurst---Akron
Jeff Mayle---Tenn State
How did they not win the state championship?
LakeCountyTiger
01-31-2008, 10:09 PM
I think Erik White went to BGSU What number did Liggett wear? Anyone remember? I have a # 72 from Around that era... The one with the mean looking tiger leaping at you (Moronto years I think)
LakeCountyTiger
01-31-2008, 10:11 PM
Mike Wilson went to Miami I think Monte. When did Remeir Martin play? I thought he and White were at BGSU about the same time..
mmauthor
01-31-2008, 10:14 PM
Had a really nice interview with Chuck Shuff. He said if had Greg Wood on the 1975 team he thinks he would have won the state championship. He had a lot of interesting things to say about his two years in Massillon. A lot of real interesting stories about the 1974 McKinley game...one of the finest wins in Massillon history.
CarlE
02-01-2008, 08:37 AM
MMAuthor:
What is Coach Shuff doing these days? Still at Worthington Steel? Retired?
monte81
02-01-2008, 09:28 AM
Mike Wilson went to Miami I think Monte. When did Remeir Martin play? I thought he and White were at BGSU about the same time..
Ramier graduated in 1990 with joe Pierce, Tom menches, Lee Hurst, Ryan Sparkman, etc,...
Liggett wore #72
1986 team had multiple players out of position IMO! However, in 87 and 88 we were suspended from the playoffs! In 88 we lost 3 games by a total of 9 points and were ranked in the top 10
mmauthor
02-01-2008, 10:56 AM
Carke:
Shuff is retired and spends the winter in West Palm Beach. He has one of those modern RVs. He owns a lot in a nice RV park. He spends the rest of the year in the Sandusky area.
CarlE
02-01-2008, 11:13 AM
Carke:
Shuff is retired and spends the winter in West Palm Beach. He has one of those modern RVs. He owns a lot in a nice RV park. He spends the rest of the year in the Sandusky area.
Thanks, buddy.
Smitty
02-01-2008, 05:28 PM
Had a really nice interview with Chuck Shuff. He said if had Greg Wood on the 1975 team he thinks he would have won the state championship....
Greg Wood wasn't exactly a fan favorite as QB. He wasn't a natural (ie, he wasn't all that tall & couldn't throw the really deep ball), but was a terrific athlete, could run when necessary, & threw a nice catchable ball.
As a junior ('73), most of the blame was directed at him for the 0-0 tie vs Benedictine and the 21-0 loss to McK. He didn't deserve that kind of crap; esp. for the McK game.
I do believe that had Commings not left for Iowa, the '74 team might have gone 8-2 instead of 6-4 ... maybe better.
It'd be a fun kool-ade debate about how much better the '75 Tiger team could've been if Wood was the QB.
Tigers53
02-01-2008, 06:07 PM
Smitty, as you can recall, the 73 team wasn't about passing the ball much anyhow. It was Harmon and Waldrop between the tackles, Danzy, Swan and Streeter on the power pictches and reverses. Passing was an after thought. It was good sound, knock you block off defense and a grind it out, ball control offense.
And yes, Greg was a good athlete, would have been a good running back himself. Greg should not have received any blame for the Bennie game. They had a pretty sound team if you recall, it think they won a state title that year. We just couldn't get anything done that night. Blame it on Big Foot! I think that was the week a bunch of us caught hell for running around in the woods around 29th St. looking for Swamp Thing and Commings came out and gave us hell. He was not happy with a bunch of us.
Another thing to remember about that 73 team, the backfield out weighed the offensive line on average most nights. It was another year of Comming's "pocket watch" guards.
CarlE
02-02-2008, 10:12 AM
Smitty, as you can recall, the 73 team wasn't about passing the ball much anyhow. It was Harmon and Waldrop between the tackles, Danzy, Swan and Streeter on the power pictches and reverses. Passing was an after thought. It was good sound, knock you block off defense and a grind it out, ball control offense.
And yes, Greg was a good athlete, would have been a good running back himself. Greg should not have received any blame for the Bennie game. They had a pretty sound team if you recall, it think they won a state title that year. We just couldn't get anything done that night. Blame it on Big Foot! I think that was the week a bunch of us caught hell for running around in the woods around 29th St. looking for Swamp Thing and Commings came out and gave us hell. He was not happy with a bunch of us.
Another thing to remember about that 73 team, the backfield out weighed the offensive line on average most nights. It was another year of Comming's "pocket watch" guards.
Great memories, Tim. Greg was a SOLID athlete, and one of the best baseball players I've EVER seen. Benedictine DID win the state championship that year and yes, they were rock solid. Funny. I had forgotten all about you guys getting in trouble for that incident in the woods. That is HILARIOUS and sure makes me think about the good old days.
TigerVic
02-02-2008, 12:10 PM
Great memories, Tim. Greg was a SOLID athlete, and one of the best baseball players I've EVER seen. Benedictine DID win the state championship that year and yes, they were rock solid. Funny. I had forgotten all about you guys getting in trouble for that incident in the woods. That is HILARIOUS and sure makes me think about the good old days.
I remember that BigFoot thing too!
We did have Jeff Huffman at receiver in '73, so we didn't have a "zero" passing game.
I remember the Bennie game- Didn't Alan Binks, the exchange student, miss FG's from from 24 and 29 yards, as well as a long one at the end? But I think we stopped Benedictine deep in our territory as well.
I don't know what happened in that McK game- we were completely out to lunch- didn't even get past the 50, I think.
CarlE
02-02-2008, 12:15 PM
I remember that BigFoot thing too!
We did have Jeff Huffman at receiver in '73, so we didn't have a "zero" passing game.
I remember the Bennie game- Didn't Alan Binks, the exchange student, miss FG's from from 24 and 29 yards, as well as a long one at the end? But I think we stopped Benedictine deep in our territory as well.
I don't know what happened in that McK game- we were completely out to lunch- didn't even get past the 50, I think.
Plus it was freezing and quite honestly more people were watching to see if Mark Pifer and the guys were going to kick those guys from McKinley's asses beside the stands at that hell-hole over there.
TigerVic
02-02-2008, 12:31 PM
Plus it was freezing and quite honestly more people were watching to see if Mark Pifer and the guys were going to kick those guys from McKinley's asses beside the stands at that hell-hole over there.
I guess I was too young to know about that!
I seem to recall one of the most ferocious hits I've ever seen by a Tiger or any team - I think on our one kickoff- by #30- in that game. Other than that, we didn't hit anybody, except maybe behind the stands (but I'll leave that for CarlE to explain).
Rushfan
02-02-2008, 12:45 PM
Ah,'73-my senior year. I remember Alan Binks missing those field goals. He was an exchange student from New Zealand. Remember he wore athletic shoes but didn't wear any socks? I think he wanted to kick barefoot but OHSAA rules didn't permit barefoot kickers. I remember Benedictine finished 6-2-2,made the playoffs and beat Ironton for the title in our stadium.They beat somebody else in the semis at our place the week before,but I can't remember who that was. The Mck game,we were solid favorites to win,but were flat as a pancake. There was an airplane flying around Fawcett Stadium toting a banner that said "9-0-1,Cincy here we come! Go Mas.Tigers Go!" Well,we finished 8-1-1 and went nowhere.
tiger134
02-02-2008, 01:19 PM
lauber moved in when in junior high because his dad got a job with a local bank
zappa
02-02-2008, 05:04 PM
If my two good brain cells remember correctly, didn't the Swamp thing end up being Jack Maynard dressed up running around drunk and scaring people??
Smitty, as you can recall, the 73 team wasn't about passing the ball much anyhow. It was Harmon and Waldrop between the tackles, Danzy, Swan and Streeter on the power pictches and reverses. Passing was an after thought. It was good sound, knock you block off defense and a grind it out, ball control offense.
And yes, Greg was a good athlete, would have been a good running back himself. Greg should not have received any blame for the Bennie game. They had a pretty sound team if you recall, it think they won a state title that year. We just couldn't get anything done that night. Blame it on Big Foot! I think that was the week a bunch of us caught hell for running around in the woods around 29th St. looking for Swamp Thing and Commings came out and gave us hell. He was not happy with a bunch of us.
Another thing to remember about that 73 team, the backfield out weighed the offensive line on average most nights. It was another year of Comming's "pocket watch" guards.
CarlE
02-02-2008, 09:10 PM
If my two good brain cells remember correctly, didn't the Swamp thing end up being Jack Maynard dressed up running around drunk and scaring people??
I had heard that. Action Jack. Wonder whatever happened to that crazy SOB?
npaflas
02-02-2008, 10:55 PM
Carle according to my brother he is still hanging in there. Carle was you bowling when he was on my team in 1985-86 year.
CarlE
02-03-2008, 09:56 AM
Carle according to my brother he is still hanging in there. Carle was you bowling when he was on my team in 1985-86 year.
No, I was on the one the teams kicking your butts.
npaflas
02-03-2008, 11:16 AM
Hey you guy's didn't beat us all the time. Do you still bowl any.
Smitty
02-04-2008, 01:12 PM
... We did have Jeff Huffman at receiver in '73, so we didn't have a "zero" passing game.... I don't know what happened in that McK game- we were completely out to lunch- didn't even get past the 50, I think.
1.) I believe junior Mark Pifer ("Midgit") was used as a reciever / wingback as well as kick returner. I can't recall our other recievers.
2.) I know a small (?) group of seniors had a rather big (!) "beat McK" party on Friday night... and those of us on the "inside" will blame the loss on that. (In 30+ year hindsight, we really shouldn't take anything away from the bulldog team that played their butts off.) The whole town took for granted we only had to show up to win that game ... kinda like yesterday's Patriots.
Tigers53
02-04-2008, 06:55 PM
Wow, that is something I hadn't heard about, or forgot, regarding anybody doing any partying prior to the 73 Mck. game. I know it was colder than all get out the night before for the parade and "bonefire". I was so nervous I was sick to my stomach the night before the game so was at home. Maybe I should have gone to the party too. We were banged up alittle for that game too. Huffy had a severe hip pointer, didn't run well during the game and was not able to practice much that week, Tim Gutshall was sick all week and did not practice but did play. Same goes for Charlie Swan, missed the whole week but did not play. I don't think Erlo Lee was 100 percent either, but he had knee problems most of the year, the results of an injury during the off season.
Receivers, Jeff Huffman, Thee Lemon, Charlie Swan WB, John Mayor WB, Leon Roland TE, Tim Gutshall TE, Pifer WB, Mark Streeter WB. Mark Lauber was on the team an I believe was a tight end.
Mckinley was huge that year. One of the Obravics played tackle, Geisleman at tackle, Jonathan Moore at tailback, a super quick guy I believe named Jap Jeter at middle guard and played some fullback.
Probably the the greatest hit of that game was when Terry Henderson, playing cornerback, read a sweep to the left and literally flew over the lead blocker and nailed the running back in the backfield.
Wonderful memories of Fawcett, frozen dirt field painted green to look like grass.
Binks had a great accent and the girls loved it!!!
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