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Submariner
01-17-2008, 03:49 PM
Is Youngstown Ursuline staying on the Tiger Schedule for the forseeable future or is it a one-and-one? Will there be set up match between WHS and Cardinal Mooney? If you keep playing Ursuline, Mooney will come up in conversations too..............

Rushfan
01-17-2008, 09:34 PM
As far as I can remember,Ursuline is a two-year deal;of course,it could change.

Metacomet
01-17-2008, 10:45 PM
I wish Solon was a fixture on Massillon's future schedules. :deal:

Red50Go
01-17-2008, 11:08 PM
I wish Solon was a fixture on Massillon's future schedules. :deal:

Absolutely. Not knowing any of the financial negotiations, I think the only hurdles involve where to fit each other in our schedules. IMO you & Mentor are much more preferable than the Eds, Iggys, or even Ursulines of the world. And I'd also just as soon turn my back on the other Stark D1's and their endless chicken**** lip service, til they grow a pair.

BigTime
01-18-2008, 08:23 AM
I wish Solon was a fixture on Massillon's future schedules. :deal:

Come on down! :weightlift:

TigerCoach
01-18-2008, 09:57 AM
I wish Solon was a fixture on Massillon's future schedules. :deal:

They'll call us when they think they have a strong team again, which happens once or twice a decade. They won't play us on a regular basis.

massillon catholic
01-18-2008, 11:16 AM
They'll call us when they think they have a strong team again, which happens once or twice a decade. They won't play us on a regular basis.

We should have beat that team by three TD's.

npaflas
01-18-2008, 11:00 PM
We have never played Mooney before.

Metacomet
01-19-2008, 12:12 PM
They'll call us when they think they have a strong team again, which happens once or twice a decade. They won't play us on a regular basis.

With all due respect, TigerCoach, you're way off base. First, Solon plays Mentor every year. Why would the Comets be afraid to play Massillon? Second, Solon scheduled Massillon last fall on the heels of its worst season (7-4) in a decade, one that was marred by a near-mutiny by some of its players. The Comets weren't expected to be very good in 2007.

On the other hand, Massillon was expected to compete for the state championship last year; I shouldn't have to remind you of that. So your argument that the Comets would only schedule Massillon when they were sure they had the upper hand is asinine.

I'm disappointed to read some of the comments on this thread. I have great respect for Massillon's program and I thought that after last season's game, the feeling was mutual. The feedback from Stark County at that time was pretty positive about our program. The disrespect we're now getting from a beaten opponent is puzzling.

For what it's worth, Solon outgained the Tigers about 2-1. Massillon couldn't run the ball at all. That's not surprising; no one ran the ball on Solon all year except Mentor in Week 3 and Strongsville in Week 10. To beat Solon, opponents had to be able to pass. Massillon couldn't throw the ball. I'm sorry, but I saw the Tigers play against St. Ignatius and McKinley, and I saw nothing that would lead me to believe that our win over the Tigers was a fluke. I don't think I need to remind you that the Tigers lost to D2 Parma Normandy. Normandy lost twice--to North Royalton and to Mayfield. Oh, yeah. Solon beat both those teams. Further, last year's team was ordinary by Solon standards.

And your assertion that Solon can compete with Massillon once a decade has no merit. Believe me, Solon's program has operated on a similar level to Massillon's for at least the last 10 years. The Comets would compete just fine with Massillon in any given year, thank you very much. Since 2000, Solon has beaten St. Ignatius and Glenville twice each and St. Edward once. Why should the Comets fear Massillon?

To sum it up, Solon doesn't fear Massillon. But we still respect the Tigers. It's a shame more of your fans can't return that respect. As far as a future rematch is concerned, our AD told me that he'd love to play Massillon again (that's right, he didn't say he was afraid), but he added that any game between our schools would have to be played in weeks 1 or 2, because of our annual series with Mentor and our conference obligations.

hrmjenl
01-19-2008, 01:36 PM
Metacomet,

With all due respect, I don't think the word "fear" or "afraid" was used in any of the above posts.

Your "ordinary" team beat the Tigers in a "non-ordinary" season. I think the vast majority of Massillon fans would LOVE to redeem themselves in an "ordinary" MASSILLON season!

Metacomet
01-19-2008, 03:45 PM
They'll call us when they think they have a strong team again, which happens once or twice a decade. They won't play us on a regular basis.

No, the words "fear" or "afraid" aren't used. But TigerCoach certainly implies that the Comets are afraid to schedule Massillon in an ordinary season, wouldn't you agree?

If Massillonians want another crack at the Comets, that's great. That's the seed that could sprout a rivaly. Massillon should get the chance to play the Comets again. I'd love to see our two teams hook up regularly. It would be a great series, and a competitive one. If Solon-Massilllon became a semi-annual event, the series would certainly draw a lot of interest around around Northeast Ohio whenever it was played.

massillon catholic
01-19-2008, 04:00 PM
No, the words "fear" or "afraid" aren't used. But TigerCoach certainly implies that the Comets are afraid to schedule Massillon in an ordinary season, wouldn't you agree?

If Massillonians want another crack at the Comets, that's great. That's the seed that could sprout a rivaly. Massillon should get the chance to play the Comets again. I'd love to see our two teams hook up regularly. It would be a great series, and a competitive one. If Solon-Massilllon became a semi-annual event, the series would certainly draw a lot of interest around around Northeast Ohio whenever it was played.


I believe what Tiger Coach was referring too, is most teams will only schedule Massillon when they are loaded and perceive Massillon to be vulnerable. i.e 2005 when massillon had back to back bad seasons, (I believe they were both 4-6 or close to it) and a new coach. You saw Mentor, Chardon, Dover, Eastlake North jump on the wagon. Dover, Chardon and Eastlake North were pounded into submission to the point that they wanted out of future contracts. Mentor of course had a good level of talent coming back and stayed on. If Solon wants to truly get it on, then sign a 5 or 6 year deal and we'll see what happens.

Obie Wan
01-19-2008, 05:02 PM
I'd rather sign a home-and-home with Solon than play in the Herbie the next two years.

massillon catholic
01-19-2008, 05:16 PM
I'd rather sign a home-and-home with Solon than play in the Herbie the next two years.


I'd rather play solon every year.

Metacomet
01-20-2008, 01:48 AM
I'd rather play solon every year.

And I wish the same about Massillon, which is where this discussion started. For what it's worth, it looks as if Solon is close to finalizing an agreement with McKinley for a home-and-home in Week 1 of 2008 and 2009.

massillon catholic
01-20-2008, 10:39 AM
For what it's worth, it looks as if Solon is close to finalizing an agreement with McKinley for a home-and-home in Week 1 of 2008 and 2009.

No surpise. McK is down and looks to be down for awhile.

Rushfan
01-20-2008, 11:54 AM
And I wish the same about Massillon, which is where this discussion started. For what it's worth, it looks as if Solon is close to finalizing an agreement with McKinley for a home-and-home in Week 1 of 2008 and 2009.

Wow! You mean McKinley is actually scheduling a good team for one of their first two dates instead of a Detroit Pershing,Toledo Start or Watered-Down,Canada?

monte81
01-21-2008, 12:03 PM
No surpise. McK is down and looks to be down for awhile.

Not so fast MC! I am telling everyone right now that McKinley's freshman class is one of the best in the state. Also, the 8th grade class is also loaded with talent--I coached those kids for 3 years and they do not lose. Jamon Williams, Brice Everett, Sayvon Pittman, Snow, Ogeltree, and Isaiah, etc,... they are loaded in the coming 2-3 years for sure.

Saying the pups will be down for multiple years is crazy and is just like saying we are down as well!!! Not going to happen


I hope we do not keep Urisiline as a fixture---no good can come out of beating a DV squad that we should beat! Solon would be a great series to keep around and I like the Herbie---you want to challenge yourself to play the best teams.

massillon catholic
01-21-2008, 12:21 PM
Not so fast MC! I am telling everyone right now that McKinley's freshman class is one of the best in the state. .

You also said Massey will be one of the top corners in Ohio.

monte81
01-21-2008, 01:00 PM
You also said Massey will be one of the top corners in Ohio.

He definitely was not the weak link in the secondary for the tigers. Teams rarely throw his way in 2007 or completed passes on him. The differance in Massey not being a top DB in Ohio was he NEVER was tested in the passing game in 2007 and other weaknesses of the team allowed teams to run to victory! I guess he was supposed to cover 2 or 3 Wr's---Massey was more than solid for the tigers MC.

BTW--I am right way more times when it comes to football than I am wrong for sure!

massillon catholic
01-21-2008, 01:30 PM
He definitely was not the weak link in the secondary for the tigers. !

There's a BIG difference between not being the weak link for the tigers and being the top corner in Ohio.

monte81
01-21-2008, 01:41 PM
There's a BIG difference between not being the weak link for the tigers and being the top corner in Ohio.


Massey didn't get tested back there at all! Thats the differance in being all-ohio! Cannot perform if you get no work! Thats like saying an OLB is weak because he had only 50 tackles but opponents only ran his way 60 times! Pound 4 pound I will line Massey up at corner against any team on the schedule! Our secondary was not the issue our run stop game was the differance and our weak offense.

Massey's size keeps him away from DI schools just like Hildreth!

Being the best in Ohio is popularity votes anyway---dont read into who makes the team and who doesn't! We all know DT was the best RB in the Stark but didn't make the team either.

massillon catholic
01-21-2008, 01:43 PM
We all know DT was the best RB in the Stark but didn't make the team either.


I'd take Turner over DT anyday

monte81
01-21-2008, 01:47 PM
I'd take Turner over DT anyday

Depends on the system you are using and the oline capabilities. DT gets the tough yards and is hell to bring down and JT is smooth and elusive! They are 2 differant players but WOULD OF made a great compliment to each other.

I am waiting to see what JT does when I take him to the Nike combine March 29th

massillon catholic
01-21-2008, 01:58 PM
Depends on the system you are using and the oline capabilities. DT gets the tough yards and is hell to bring down and JT is smooth and elusive! They are 2 differant players but WOULD OF made a great compliment to each other.

I am waiting to see what JT does when I take him to the Nike combine March 29th

You taking DT? According to TP he may need a college to find him as well.

monte81
01-21-2008, 08:11 PM
You taking DT? According to TP he may need a college to find him as well.

I will help him if the OSU deal falls through---I left him a message!!

Don't be surprised if he lands UM next fall if OSU pulls the plug.

massillon catholic
01-21-2008, 08:24 PM
I will help him if the OSU deal falls through---I left him a message!!

Don't be surprised if he lands UM next fall if OSU pulls the plug.

RB or LB?

Submariner
01-25-2008, 07:36 AM
I am still waiting see Massillon and Mooney connect up!!!!!

Purple Hayes
01-26-2008, 05:37 PM
They'll call us when they think they have a strong team again, which happens once or twice a decade. They won't play us on a regular basis.

TigerCoach -

Why the hate for Solon??

To suggest they are inferior to Massillon is way off base.

They've beaten Ignatius three times (not once by one point) within the last decade, with at least two of those being convincing wins. I also thought Solon would beat Massillon this past year. They are fundamentally sound and have been good for quite a while now.