No, Shawn no!!!.......Ya shouldn't have said this......

[warren1st]

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071229/SPORTS06/71229044

Wow! UM players certainly have had a knack for saying the wrong thing at the wrong time this season, ala Mike Hart!!

[Tigermedic]

I smell a florida as/ wooping.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Speak it out Crable! And back it up on January 1st!!

GO WOLVERINES!

[Tiger2001]

this is like the steAlers vs the ravens. I hate them both but I hate UM more.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Tiger2001,

Michigan will bring the wood against the Gators. Steelers vs. Ravens...Pittsburgh will not lose to a city that is #1 in crack cocaine. Hate UM if you want but it's the Gators who will get swamped.

[werperry]

Tiger2001,

Michigan will bring the wood against the Gators. Steelers vs. Ravens...Pittsburgh will not lose to a city that is #1 in crack cocaine. Hate UM if you want but it's the Gators who will get swamped.

you're 0-1 sir.

[monte81]

The agree with what Shawn has said. Tebow is just another QB---Dixon is better and Young the best playmaker the last 10 years at the position. Shawn is just analyzing the QB talent that he has faced. I know Shawn will bust tebow in the mouth a few times win or lose!!

GO BLUE!

[austinsm11]

Tebow is just another QB---Dixon is better and Young the best playmaker the last 10 years at the position.
GO BLUE!

You can argue that Dixon or Young is better, I disagree about Dixon and it remains to be seen about Young (Tebow is only a soph.) But to say that he is just another college qb is a little naive.

[monte81]

You can argue that Dixon or Young is better, I disagree about Dixon and it remains to be seen about Young (Tebow is only a soph.) But to say that he is just another college qb is a little naive.

You always have a rebutal to everything I say--why?

What about the Browns? I said 10-6, playoffs(Titans game not over), and J. Lewis close to 1500(he has over 1300 now).

Other teams could use Qb's in similar fashion but Florida bsides Harvin has little running game and Tebow has to run and be Mr. Everything! HE WILL NEVER PLAY QB IN THE NFL! And compared to Qb's Shawn has played against while at UM---Tebow is just another college QB!

[austinsm11]

You always have a rebutal to everything I say--why?

What about the Browns? I said 10-6, playoffs(Titans game not over), and J. Lewis close to 1500(he has over 1300 now).

Other teams could use Qb's in similar fashion but Florida bsides Harvin has little running game and Tebow has to run and be Mr. Everything! HE WILL NEVER PLAY QB IN THE NFL! And compared to Qb's Shawn has played against while at UM---Tebow is just another college QB!

Tebow is not just another average qb! He may not play in the NFL, but he is playing in college and setting all kinds of records. Do you think that is average? First to win the Heisman as a soph. and he is average?

I don't have a rebutal for everything you say, only when you are wrong which you can NEVER "man up" and admit. Maybe analyze what Tebow has done so far instead of trying to stick up for your boy.

I also give credit to you and others when they are right. Since you brought up the Browns thread, maybe go back and read where I gave you credit about your prediction????

[monte81]

Tebow is not just another average qb! He may not play in the NFL, but he is playing in college and setting all kinds of records. Do you think that is average? First to win the Heisman as a soph. and he is average?

I don't have a rebutal for everything you say, only when you are wrong which you can NEVER "man up" and admit. Maybe analyze what Tebow has done so far instead of trying to stick up for your boy.

I also give credit to you and others when they are right. Since you brought up the Browns thread, maybe go back and read where I gave you credit about your prediction????

I am down with Shawn---PERIOD, family first! Never said Tebow was not a great college player but it more of the system and lack of playmakers around him why he gets all the Td's! If he could actually throw more than 30 yards he would be a great QB prospect! I think he is better suited for a RB--IMO!

I man up all the time---note the screen name MONTE81---no hiding who I am or what I represent!

[Tigerslover96]

Tiger2001,

Michigan will bring the wood against the Gators. Steelers vs. Ravens...Pittsburgh will not lose to a city that is #1 in crack cocaine. Hate UM if you want but it's the Gators who will get swamped.

So much for the Steelers beating the Ravens!

[austinsm11]

Comparing 2007 Tim Tebow to 2005 Vince Young:

Tim has a higher completion percentage, threw for more TDs, threw less interceptions, threw for more yards, higher rating, had a higher YPA in passing and more rushing touchdowns (throw this last stat out since he probably does keep the ball more in the red zone than most qb's)

Young rushed for more yards on less attempts, and had a higher rushing avg.

How is it that Young is such a great college QB and Tebow is just "another" QB?

[monte81]

Comparing 2007 Tim Tebow to 2005 Vince Young:

Tim has a higher completion percentage, threw for more TDs, threw less interceptions, threw for more yards, higher rating, had a higher YPA in passing and more rushing touchdowns (throw this last stat out since he probably does keep the ball more in the red zone than most qb's)

Young rushed for more yards on less attempts, and had a higher rushing avg.

How is it that Young is such a great college QB and Tebow is just "another" QB?


Big game performances and Young left as a junior so if Florida win the BCS next season then you made a point! Young lost what 2 games as a starter at Texas. Tebow lost 3 games this year!! OSu was the best team in the nation that year and he done them in EARLY! Name another player on the Texas roster within ten seconds.....tick,tick,.... Young was the total package for college football and his NFL career,...well remains to be seen! he has not reall impressed me yet.
Tebow is better than good right now--- great possivly next season! His size is amazing however and he he is the heisman winner! However, if Dixon doesn't get hurt Oregon is playing for thr title and holding the hardware, again IMO!

[warren1st]

Tebow may not be a great NFL QB down the road but he is certainly a GREAT college QB today!

I just wish UM players would quit spouting off. Mike Hart has raised a hornet's nest in East Lansing which will come back and bite UM in the butt soon and is now complaining about all the current coaches being fired. Let's get these guys the he!! out of Michigan. Jmo.

[austinsm11]

Big game performances and Young left as a junior so if Florida win the BCS next season then you made a point! Young lost what 2 games as a starter at Texas. Tebow lost 3 games this year!! OSu was the best team in the nation that year and he done them in EARLY! Name another player on the Texas roster within ten seconds.....tick,tick,.... Young was the total package for college football and his NFL career,...well remains to be seen! he has not reall impressed me yet.
Tebow is better than good right now--- great possivly next season! His size is amazing however and he he is the heisman winner! However, if Dixon doesn't get hurt Oregon is playing for thr title and holding the hardware, again IMO!

Blalock, Griffin, Sweed, Huff, Charles


So you aren't a great QB unless you win a championship? I bet there many good bit of quarterbacks who didn't win a championship.

[austinsm11]

Remember Monte, we aren't debating if Young or Tebow is better ... you said that Tebow is "just another Qb" ? Tebow this year has as good or better stats in many categories with LESS talent that Young had. Regardless of who you feel is the better QB, how can you say that Young is the best of the last 10 years while implying that Tebow is just average?

Why does Tim have to win a championship to avoid being "just another Qb?"

[CarlE]

This is GREAT. This is coming from an underachieving senior that MAY go in the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft after everyone had him in the top 25. I can't WAIT for the first play that Tebow runs right over his ass into the end zone. And there will be more than one of these.

I've tried to get Keno to bet me my prediction that Tebow himself will outscore Michigan. This is good. I might even have to go against rules and bet on this game. What a classic comment.

[tbone]

I've tried to get Keno to bet me my prediction that Tebow himself will outscore Michigan. This is good. I might even have to go against rules and bet on this game. What a classic comment.

yeah, i'd probably put a couple on that prediction too!

[warren1st]

This is GREAT. This is coming from an underachieving senior that MAY go in the 3rd or 4th round of the NFL draft after everyone had him in the top 25. I can't WAIT for the first play that Tebow runs right over his ass into the end zone. And there will be more than one of these.

I've tried to get Keno to bet me my prediction that Tebow himself will outscore Michigan. This is good. I might even have to go against rules and bet on this game. What a classic comment.

CarlE - Good to see you're in your usual New Year's Eve good cheer and love for your fellow man!! lol!! :jestera:

....and how 'bout Nate Clements love for UM trying to tackle Braylon Edwards 5-10 yards AFTER he'd crossed the goal line. Good sportsmanship still run rampant in Columbus! :wink:

[CarlE]

CarlE - Good to see you're in your usual New Year's Eve good cheer and love for your fellow man!! lol!! :jestera:

....and how 'bout Nate Clements love for UM trying to tackle Braylon Edwards 5-10 yards AFTER he'd crossed the goal line. Good sportsmanship still run rampant in Columbus! :wink:

I don't agree with ANY bad sportmanship, Mr. Warren1st. And this guy coming out talking smack after the mediocre year he had is just crap. And one Tim Tebow is going to make he and the rest of his counterparts pay dearly for it tomorrow. So, Lloyd can blame him when his last game becomes a travesty for UM.

Oh, Happy New Year, my friend!!!

[warren1st]

I don't agree with ANY bad sportmanship, Mr. Warren1st. And this guy coming out talking smack after the mediocre year he had is just crap. And one Tim Tebow is going to make he and the rest of his counterparts pay dearly for it tomorrow. So, Lloyd can blame him when his last game becomes a travesty for UM.

Oh, Happy New Year, my friend!!!

Ease up, ease up!! I'm just yankin' your chain. And, yes, too many UM players had mediocre seasons this past year.:grinning: ,BUT, there is a NEW SHERIFF in town!!

[SuperBran]

lack of playmakers around him

Young lost what 2 games as a starter at Texas. Tebow lost 3 games this year!!

so you acknowledge that he has no playmakers around him..............but then bring up the fact that he lost three games this year in your argument against him????

If he could actually throw more than 30 yards he would be a great QB prospect!

isn't it interesting that tebow was ranked FIRST in the NATION in yards passing per attempt. if you think he doesn't thrown more than 30 yards then you've obviously not watched him play.

[Tiger2001]

Last night was the first time i've watched Vince Young play in the NFL. I have got to say...he is ugly. He still looks like a college QB. The only reason he had any success last night is because Indy was running a very soft cover 2 with nothing to play for.

Also, last night was the biggest game of the year for the colts. Why is Vince young riding a bike on the sideline? What a little baby! The sideline reporter actualy said that Norm Chow called Vince Young a "whiner" LOL


And I hate to change the subject but Bob Sanders is an absolute beast at 5'8"!!!!!

[ChronicTiger]

I man up all the time---note the screen name MONTE81---no hiding who I am or what I represent!

Monte always keeping it real.........just like he did in the paint......

:drinkem:

[ChronicTiger]

:eek2:

[mbaldwin3]

uh oh

[CarlE]

Yes, I'm eating crow this morning. An inspired Michigan team came out and played the games of their lives yesterday. Of course, the ones that do all the talking (Hart, Crable) are barely noticed in the game, well except for Hart's two fumbles inside the five.

Truly a great effort, and a great way to send Coach Carr out. Congrats to Keno and Warren1st. It's open season for them to pound all of us today!!

[monte81]

Carle,
6 tackles, 2 tackle for loss, and 2 QB hurries sounds like a pretty decent game to me. Seemed like if you watched the game Tebow and Co. ran away from #2 most of the game. Bet he goes better than round 4???

Tebow had 59 yards rushing in the game and less than 200 passing so the UM defense did make him look like a average Qb yesterday!! P. Harvin by far was the best player on the field all day IMO. When pressured he looks average in the pocket and UM proved that yesterday.

Superbran, I miss wrote the weapons part---I should of said his lack of throwing ability makes him not completey utilize his weapons. And no a great QB is not defined as winning a championship ie: Dan Marino but it puts an * by the accomplishments. Just like T. Smith at OSU because of the BCS game last year---great player but came up short. Tebow was throwing screen passes and 5 yard pop passes and hitches all year---he should have a GREAT passing %. Also, he had 72 more carries than anyone on the team and carried the 47% of the time in thr red zone. The numbers should be great when you always have the ball--- just like Slaton at WVU but he has better all-around teammates to dish off to.

Chronic--- the paint is for "MEN ONLY", I was undersized for a center but I played defense until the whistle and manned the boards! I see you remember, you were a young trooper then!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Monte81,

Timothy Richard Tebow is just another quarterback. Even though Michigan won 41-35...they should have had 62 points on those Gators if not for stupid turnovers that left three touchdowns on the scoreboard...but a win is a win and I thank Lloyd Carr for 13 years of Michigan mastery!

Too bad Ohio State couldn't beat Florida whereas MICHIGAN got it done!

Thanks for the memories Carr...welcome "Triple R" Rich Rod Rodriguez to Michigan!

[CarlE]

Monte81,

Timothy Richard Tebow is just another quarterback. Even though Michigan won 41-35...they should have had 62 points on those Gators if not for stupid turnovers that left three touchdowns on the scoreboard...but a win is a win and I thank Lloyd Carr for 13 years of Michigan mastery!

Too bad Ohio State couldn't beat Florida whereas MICHIGAN got it done!

Thanks for the memories Carr...welcome "Triple R" Rich Rod Rodriguez to Michigan!

Keno, can't you just savor the victory with some class? Comparing this year's Florida team to the one OSU played last year is just plain idiocy. But, when it comes to college football we've come to expect that from you.

[SuperBran]

Too bad Ohio State couldn't beat Florida whereas MICHIGAN got it done!

too bad you still can't beat osu.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

You're the only person on here who can shut me down when it counts. Maybe I need to back my zealousness down a bit. I don't know how you do it...first you use my respect for Massillon fans against me, then you rain down on my Pittsburgh Steelers...then you tell me Joe Calzaghe (world boxing champion) is a coward...and now this.

You don't let up, don't you? But that is what makes it all interesting :thumbsup: !

By the way...Michigan is 24-5 against the SEC. Call me when Ohio State finally wins a game against the SEC......

[ReineyKicker15]

Ya Michigan did get it done against Florida yesterday but that was not the same Florida team Ohio State lost to last year. Last years Florida team had a defense this one has none. And lets not forget 6 of the last 7 seasons when Michigan and Ohio State faced off. I wouldn't start talking trash yet MCU.

[SuperBran]

Call me when Ohio State finally wins a game against the SEC......

call me when michigan finally wins a game against osu.

[warren1st]

Yes, I'm eating crow this morning. An inspired Michigan team came out and played the games of their lives yesterday. Of course, the ones that do all the talking (Hart, Crable) are barely noticed in the game, well except for Hart's two fumbles inside the five.

Truly a great effort, and a great way to send Coach Carr out. Congrats to Keno and Warren1st. It's open season for them to pound all of us today!!

CarlE - I always try to follow one of my heroes sayings, Paul Brown, who said, "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less."

SuperBran - Shoot me your phone # as I'm sure UM fans will be calling soon!!:drinkem:

[SuperBran]

SuperBran - Shoot me your phone # as I'm sure UM fans will be calling soon!!:drinkem:

unless they pull off a miracle, their next shot is in two years. michigan losses too many players this year.

[massillon catholic]

call me when michigan finally wins a game against osu.


Dont hold your breath for that call. It may be awhile.

[austinsm11]

CarlE - I always try to follow one of my heroes sayings, Paul Brown, who said, "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less."


I think some of the Michigan players could have used that advice this year.



Oh well, I guess you got a nice New Years present Warren1st.

[austinsm11]

Timothy Richard Tebow is just another quarterback.

I still don't get this. I'm not saying that he is the best QB ever or anything, but to say that he is just another QB is an understatement.

I don't think Tebow played a poor game. In fact, I think things may have turned out different except Michigan eventually started putting heat on him and didn't let up. It doesn't matter how good you are, if your line isn't block then you aren't going to complete many passes or run for many yards.

[massillon catholic]

I still don't get this. I'm not saying that he is the best QB ever or anything, but to say that he is just another QB is an understatement.

I don't think Tebow played a poor game. In fact, I think things may have turned out different except Michigan eventually started putting heat on him and didn't let up. It doesn't matter how good you are, if your line isn't block then you aren't going to complete many passes or run for many yards.


Heisman QB's generally dont have their best game in the bowl because of all the time spent away from the team during the heisman and immediately after.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

austinsm11,

Crable was right!! Bar none! Far and away, coast-to-coast, wire-to-wire!!

[CarlE]

austinsm11,

Crable was right!! Bar none! Far and away, coast-to-coast, wire-to-wire!!

You mean Mr. six tackle, overrated Crable? Is that who you mean? Oh, Keno if Florida had ANY kind of a defense they win this game going away. Let's not forget your vaunted Michigan defense gave up 35 freaking points, OK?

[austinsm11]

Heisman QB's generally dont have their best game in the bowl because of all the time spent away from the team during the heisman and immediately after.

Very good point...similiar to Troy Smith

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

Florida should have been killed by 27 points and Michigan should have had 62 points if not for THREE turnovers in the red zone!! In actuality...if not for Michigan turnovers...the score is Michigan 62, Florida 35! But I'll take the win as it is!!

Michigan is 24-5 against the SEC. Ohio State is 0-8 (soon to be 0-9)! You're in no position to even challenge me on this!

Now go back to the golf course you were at...and let me celebrate the outgoing of Lloyd Carr and the incoming of Triple R!

[CarlE]

CarlE,

Florida should have been killed by 27 points and Michigan should have had 62 points if not for THREE turnovers in the red zone!! In actuality...if not for Michigan turnovers...the score is Michigan 62, Florida 35! But I'll take the win as it is!!

Michigan is 24-5 against the SEC. Ohio State is 0-8 (soon to be 0-9)! You're in no position to even challenge me on this!

Now go back to the golf course you were at...and let me celebrate the outgoing of Lloyd Carr and the incoming of Triple R!


Keno, once again I'm going to have to school you. OSU is 0-8 in BOWL GAMES against the SEC, not lifetime. God, PLEASE at least PRETEND you research stuff before you type. I mean it IS your profession, right?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

That 0-8 in the SEC in bowls was what I was referring to...I never said 0-8 lifetime. I mean 0-8 against SEC in bowls.

[CarlE]

CarlE,

That 0-8 in the SEC in bowls was what I was referring to...I never said 0-8 lifetime. I mean 0-8 against SEC in bowls.

OK, I'm going to go slower this time. Michigan is NOT 24-5 in BOWL GAMES AGAINST THE SEC. You are putting two different stats in here. Do you understand that?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

One of the ABC announcers said it first! But I'll lighten up here at this point.

[MRR55]

carle, i mean damn, i wish i could break a record at michigan(tackles for a loss in a season SHAWN CRABLE) and be overrated.

talk about nonsense buddy.

[CarlE]

carle, i mean damn, i wish i could break a record at michigan(tackles for a loss in a season SHAWN CRABLE) and be overrated.

talk about nonsense buddy.

I was probably a little hard on him. I'll retract that statement. He had a fine career. The post was meant more for Keno and Monte.

[Tiger2001]

Hey did everyone see what happened to the UofM seniors?!


They finally won a semi meaningful game!!!!!! LOL

[CarlE]

Hey did everyone see what happened to the UofM seniors?!


They finally won a semi meaningful game!!!!!! LOL

Four years in the making. Good point.

[crackerman]

Here's my take for what it is worth. As a starter, Tim Tebow is 9-4. Percy Harven is more important to Florida than Tebow in my opinion. I would put him in the category right now of just another quaterback, Heisman or not. Crable was right, they use him in a situation where the qb runs the ball a lot and Urban is a coach who formations you to death and creates mis-matches thus giving his qb's plush numbers. Tebow will not be able to run the ball in the pros so when he does go....I do not see him being a first round guy. There are at least 5-7 QB's coming out this year that would be higher draft picks than Tebow if he was going to come out now. Here are 11 that I think are better pure Qb's (Henne, Brink and Flacco could be argued, but better pure passers in my book):

Andre Woodson (UK)
Brian Brohm (U of L)
Colt Brennan (Hawaii)
Matt Ryan (BC)
Josh Johnson (San Diego)
Chad Henne (UM)
Alex Brink (wash St.)
Eric Ainge (Tenn)
Dennis Dixon (Oregon)
John David Booty (USC)
Joe Flacco (Delaware)

[massillon catholic]

Here's my take for what it is worth. As a starter, Tim Tebow is 9-4. Percy Harven is more important to Florida than Tebow in my opinion. I would put him in the category right now of just another quaterback, Heisman or not. Crable was right, they use him in a situation where the qb runs the ball a lot and Urban is a coach who formations you to death and creates mis-matches thus giving his qb's plush numbers. Tebow will not be able to run the ball in the pros so when he does go....I do not see him being a first round guy. There are at least 5-7 QB's coming out this year that would be higher draft picks than Tebow if he was going to come out now. Here are 11 that I think are better pure Qb's (Henne, Brink and Flacco could be argued, but better pure passers in my book):

Andre Woodson (UK)
Brian Brohm (U of L)
Colt Brennan (Hawaii)
Matt Ryan (BC)
Josh Johnson (San Diego)
Chad Henne (UM)
Alex Brink (wash St.)
Eric Ainge (Tenn)
Dennis Dixon (Oregon)
John David Booty (USC)
Joe Flacco (Delaware)


Dont forget Tebow is only a soph

[warren1st]

unless they pull off a miracle, their next shot is in two years. michigan losses too many players this year.

That's what they said in 1968, too!!

[proud to be]

Michigan is 24-5 against the SEC. Ohio State is 0-8 (soon to be 0-9)! You're in no position to even challenge me on this!


And 0-1 in the "Battery Bowl"

great win by scUM,

BUT................

This is typical of the classless scUM fans, led by the entire frontrunner nation!!!! (Not all of you Warren1st!) I actually sat and rooted for scUM yesterday, much to my son's chagrin, and did so to shut the SEC up.......

I guess I should have known better.

Keno, where were you after all the predictions you got WRONG???? You FINALLY got one right, and now you're talking stuff......

I just have one point to make, and you can't dispute me on it........ Ok so you beat Florida, (albeit a different team) and we didn't...... you LOST TO A 1AA team, (and we didn't)

Shut up already!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You would think that you would have learned some humility this year, God knows you should have....

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

obie0130,

Your post couldn't have come at a better time: TOMORROW is the 49th birthday of Massillon head coach Tom Stacy! There is one other Massillon birthday this month but I'll save that for later...

proud to be,

You're just like my West Virginia flame, Lauren C. but not as moody (LOL). "Battery Bowl"...I laughed at that. I laughed at the how many batteries does it take to shock a Wolverine joke...I'll admit being a Michigan fan those are funny.

Classless Michigan fans? Michigan fans are the BEST in the Big 10! And Rich Rodriguez will find that out for himself soon! So don't you tell me anything about classless Michigan fans because I've seen classless Ohio State fans in my day and age!

[proud to be]

proud to be,

You're just like my West Virginia flame, Lauren C. but not as moody (LOL). "Battery Bowl"...I laughed at that. I laughed at the how many batteries does it take to shock a Wolverine joke...I'll admit being a Michigan fan those are funny.

Classless Michigan fans? Michigan fans are the BEST in the Big 10! And Rich Rodriguez will find that out for himself soon! So don't you tell me anything about classless Michigan fans because I've seen classless Ohio State fans in my day and age!

My point exactly.... ALL teams have classless fans, (yes Keno, even your dear Squealers and scUM fans are A-Holes from time to time)

Noone has the market cornered in this area...........

Thye point is, as Warren1st said.......

When you win, say nothing, and when you lose, say less!!!!!

I love the rivalry between TOSU and scUM, but it would be nice if you guys showed up to take your medicine after a loss, as much as you do to crow about a victory.

Crowing about winning a bowl game, (finally), in a season where you lost to TOSU (again).... AND to Oregon (by a bajillion points), AND to a JV team, (Go App ST!) is like celebrating after a big hit, when your team is down by 40!!!!!

Will you ever learn???

[SuperBran]

That's what they said in 1968, too!!

looks like mallett's heading to ucla. they better get pryor or they're in trouble.

[monte81]

You mean Mr. six tackle, overrated Crable? Is that who you mean? Oh, Keno if Florida had ANY kind of a defense they win this game going away. Let's not forget your vaunted Michigan defense gave up 35 freaking points, OK?


90 tackles and 26.5 tackles for loss, 2 forced fumbles, and 1 fumble recovery is overrated? Shawn plays OLB or DE on occasions and teams like Florida was smart enough to run the option weakside away from Shawn the entire game. being an OLB can be tricky because good teams sceme away from the strengths of the defense. Febuary 22nd when when Shawn starts making his money at the combines in Indy!!!
carle---I know you were routing for Florida but Tebow is not MR. do it all with pressure in his face. The sceme of Florida allows him to be great and UM took that away from him. S. Crable was in his face all day on 3-5 step drops---not an easy task for great OLB's in college ot the NFL.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

proud to be,

I saw your post. All teams have classless fans...I vehemently disagree with you on this. There are some teams that don't have classless fans. And I have leads backing my stances.

[Kamd50]

proud to be,

I saw your post. All teams have classless fans...I vehemently disagree with you on this. There are some teams that don't have classless fans. And I have leads backing my stances.

Keno, you have got to be kidding...." There are some teams that don't have classless fans."...........that's like saying that there are schools that don't have ANY bad kids! Just plain ridiculous:tounge:

[CarlE]

proud to be,

There are some teams that don't have classless fans. And I have leads backing my stances.

:doh2: It really is hopeless, isn't it? Would you mind supplying us your "leads" backing your stances that some teams don't have classless fans? Keno, you are really putting yourself into a class today I didn't think even YOU could achieve. And no, that's not a good thing.

[proud to be]

proud to be,

I saw your post. All teams have classless fans...I vehemently disagree with you on this. There are some teams that don't have classless fans. And I have leads backing my stances.

No other words are necessary....................

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had leads backing your claim! I vehemently withdraw any inference I may have made, any comment that may have harmed you, or your family, and bow down to the obviously superior snoping skills of the all knowing Keno!!

Now that you mention it, I must admit I have NEVER seen a classless act from anyone donning the Black and Yellow. (let's be honest, it's yellow, not gold), and I humbly beg your forgiveness for any comment I may have made that caused you consternation.....

(Do you realize I'm being sarcastic, or should I go on?????)

:suspect:

[CarlE]

No other words are necessary....................

I'm sorry, I didn't realize you had leads backing your claim! I vehemently withdraw any inference I may have made, any comment that may have harmed you, or your family, and bow down to the obviously superior snoping skills of the all knowing Keno!!

Now that you mention it, I must admit I have NEVER seen a classless act from anyone donning the Black and Yellow. (let's be honest, it's yellow, not gold), and I humbly beg your forgiveness for any comment I may have made that caused you consternation.....

(Do you realize I'm being sarcastic, or should I go on?????)

:suspect:

Go on. It's hilarious.

[proud to be]

Go on. It's hilarious.

In the off chance that I have not offered sufficient apology, allow me to put forth on a more personal level............

Obviously Keno, you are acutely in tune with the inner workings of the rampant Frontrunner Nation, and I can only hope that some day I am able to approach the stratospheric status that you have attained.

To that end, allow me to offer myself and my humble means to your service. I can only hope that my words don't fall on deaf ears, and you can see your way clear to forgive me for my misgivings in questioning your overwhelming expertise on this subject......

I am, once again, humbled in your presence


(How's that????)

:poke:

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Example 1: New England Patriots. They don't have classless fans and I can attest this. So can Tom Brady, who played for Michigan! So I just named two teams who don't have classless fans.

Shawn Crable is proud to play for fans who exhibit proper behavior!

[proud to be]

Example 1: New England Patriots. They don't have classless fans and I can attest this. So can Tom Brady, who played for Michigan! So I just named two teams who don't have classless fans.

Shawn Crable is proud to play for fans who exhibit proper behavior!

Ya got me there...........

I stand corrected...........

:wall:

[Ron Halter]

Those classless fans now have 8 months to try and repent.

OK, lets hear the Steeler litany again.

[CarlE]

Those classless fans now have 8 months to try and repent.

OK, lets hear the Steeler litany again.

Ron, by the blood of Dennis Miller Keno declares that they will be FORCEFULLY back next year.

[warren1st]

Obviously Keno, you are acutely in tune with the inner workings of the rampant Frontrunner Nation....




Could you be talking about Ohio State?:poke:

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

proud to be,

I didn't get your post till late. I stand behind my Steelers and Wolverines, no matter what happens. I give Jacksonville credit for a job well done and hope to see them again soon.

Did I tell you once that Pittsburgh once picked up FIVE personal fouls in one game...and still won (three of them on late hits)? Now I dare you to name me another team that can pick up as many 15-yard personal fouls and win a game!

When it comes to my teams, I'm not just another pompous know-it-all frontrunner. I watch Pittsburgh and Michigan, win or lose, until the clock reads :00.

I am PROUD TO BE a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Michigan Wolverines...teams with championship tradion...and the best fans!