DiLoreto to succeed Blosser as superintendent

[obie7661]

http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=23013&r=0&Category=

[Obie Wan]

Interesting concept of a comprehensive search.

BTW, does anyone know if the new BOE has been sworn in?

[TigerCoach]

I agree, OW, interesting comprehensive search. Most school districts hire an outside consultant that specializes in these types of hires. I just wonder if we will delay in getting him his contract signed like they did when he was hired to be the MMS Principal.

[Marie]

I just heard this a hour or so ago and wondered if it was true.
I think I remember reading that the board didn't think it needed a consultant in this search because they had been though a search recently.

[Obie Wan]

Most school districts hire an outside consultant that specializes in these types of hires.
The BOE said that they have enough retained knowledge (or some such similar phrase) from the last search that a consultant was not needed on this one. Of course, the cynical might think that was because an objective consultant might make recommendations counter to the BOE's predetermined preferences.

Show of hands: how many of you voted for the incumbents in the last election?

[TigerCoach]

Is that like saying we didn't really need a 19-member search committee?

[Kamd50]

Well, I would just like to say congratulations and welcome aboard (again) to Mr. DiLoreto. I am happy to see him back.

[CATS44]

That didnt take long.

[CarlE]

That didnt take long.

Yes, but the search was "extensive". Of course if they hadn't let him get away the first damn time the search would have been, well not a search.

[austinsm11]

I don't understand why he would want to come back after what happened previously.


So I get the impression the BOE didn't interview anyone this time around. Was DiLoreto a candidate when Blosser got the job?

[OTC TIGER]

I like this...Alot

[Kamd50]

I don't understand why he would want to come back after what happened previously.


So I get the impression the BOE didn't interview anyone this time around. Was DiLoreto a candidate when Blosser got the job?

Maybe because he is a Massillon guy and cares about our community and schools?

[austinsm11]

Maybe because he is a Massillon guy and cares about our community and schools?

I hope he gets a contract this time.

[Obie Wan]

Last time we hired a principal as Super we got Al Hennon.

I'm just sayin'...

It's tough to comment on this without having your remarks interpreted as a slam on DiLoreto -- but this hiring "process" stinks to high heaven. There wasn't even a pretense of a search or an evaluation. Maybe DiLoreto would have acquitted himself admirably in a competitive environment -- but there's at least an equal chance that another candidate would have done even better.

We had a football coach shoved down our throats because some nimrod with a Napolean complex wanted call the shots behind the scenes. We're about to start digging out from that one, and now they want to do the same thing to every kid in the system? The only reason we made it through that is because the football program was in decent shape when he started. Our schools don't have the luxury of being able to serve as a training ground for the inexperienced. Or maybe that inexperience is a good part of the appeal?

These kind of backroom deals do a disservice to our schools and our community. I'll be damned if I'll let these idiots educate my kids.

F*ck 'em all. I'll vote with my feet.

[austinsm11]

- but this hiring "process" stinks to high heaven. There wasn't even a pretense of a search or an evaluation.

That is why I was curious if he had interviewed the year Blosser was hired. Was he the 2nd choice that year? And thus the reason for just hiring him without a search.

[captain]

Obie Wan,

I agree with your comments - something does not smell right! I do not know Mr. DiLoreto - and perhaps he is a perfect choice - but the way this was handled appears to be a backroom deal. In my opinion, someone very influential in the community (not a BOE member) is pulling the strings here, I wonder who?

[CATS44]

I agree with OW, although it has nothing to do with DiLoreto.

A few short weeks ago, everybody, including the BOE, was 'taken by surprise' by the sudden resignation of Blosser.

Just as suddenly, we have a new Super on the way....no search...no interviews...no debate...no open process.

[DB135]

You might say a pattern is becoming clear. Handle a hire (posting, search, and interviews) in a way that fits the individual you want to hire. Like the way the "search" was done for a baseball coach recently.

[Marie]

And people voted for these BOE members again.

[cat]

Typical Massillon "OLD BOYS CLUB"... Classic hiring process. Lets keep giving administration jobs to "our OLD buddies". This school board is full of ----!!!
I like Coach Diloreto. Great guy and was a good football coach with Shep. I hope the board & the "OLD BOYS CLUB" let him do HIS thing. I hope he doesn't turn into their puppet or we'll be back "hiring" a new sup in 2-3 years.
One message Chris, do what's best for the students of Massillon, not the adult population that want to RUN everything. GOOD LUCK. :wink:

[Obie Wan]

Ya know, I doubt it's a coincidence that this hire was done on the fast track before Weinberg takes his seat on the BOE.

[obie7661]

Jackson Middle principal pleased to return to Massillon Schools as superintendent

http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=23042&r=0&Category=

[massillon catholic]

this is a very good choice. AH botched the last deal and let Diloreto get away. Seems AH didnt like to surround himself with people smarter than him (didnt take much). I bet Chris knows the differance between a grant and a loan.:jestera:

[DB135]

I doubt most object to the choice, it's the lack of a procedure set by the district to follow in their hiring practices that is questionable.

Also based on when a new board would be in place to make major decisions at the last hour without the courtesy of consulting any new member(s) seems to fit a pattern lacking in professional standards.

[CarlE]

I doubt most object to the choice, it's the lack of a procedure set by the district to follow in their hiring practices that is questionable.

Also based on when a new board would be in place to make major decisions at the last hour without the courtesy of consulting any new member(s) seems to fit a pattern lacking in professional standards.

I think this post sums up most people's feelings on the matter. Not the choice but the process, or lack thereof.

[Banks]

I'm glad that you asked the question [about Tiger ownership] because I sure wondered about it. I wondered the same thing about this sudden supt. announcement but I sure as heck agree with the choice. He is a Massillon man, he was good enough to be selected by an excellent school system

I didn't know he was from Massillon.
BTW I have no problem with Coach Dilo.

[Mass6]

Congrats Coach Dilo!!! I personally like the choice as most of you do, but was not aware of the hiring process. Either way, I'm happy to see Coach Dilo back in Massillon.

[LLRose]

This is a hiring process comment.

Why would anyone want to have an "open, names in the newspaper" hiring process?

The BOE is elected by the community to make those types of decisions. I find no value in opening the process, for all the know. All is does is promote the know it alls to put their 2 cents in and turn it into a joke.

I hope we don't have a coaching search in the near future, however if Tom has professional opportunities (I believe MC said he was going to Iowa State) that better his personal and professional life, I hope the BOE follows the same model they used to select the Super, CLOSED to the public to keep politics out of the decision making process This will allow the best individuals to apply w/o repercussions from their current employer and eliminate public bashing.

The problem is............individuals are more concerned with their horse in the race being selected so their correct in their prediction rather than having the best individual selected. I remember quotes from interviews leaking out and people that were not involved in the actual interview take them out of context to fit their agendas. It is continuously being used against Tom.

For the record Tom never said he didn't want to be the Massillon coach after 3-4 years. He like many of you have professional aspirations and may pursue them if presented.

I recall reading posts that indicated Tom said he "didn't want to be here". This is an example of taking a quote out of context to fit your agenda.

[DB135]

The concept is for the board to conduct a professional search to atttact the best possible candidate(s) for the top positions in the district (which wasn't done for a number of positions recently).

To conduct a "targeted search" without including new members of the board (which council recently did for incoming members for a budget work session) encourages rumors and innuendo which unfairly questions the selection process and is irresponsible and unprofessional.

This has nothing to with the public's personal interest in promoting their candidate. Although the public does have a right to reasonable access to the process. To promote the concept the whole process should occur behind closed doors is ridiculous.

[monte81]

This is a hiring process comment.

Why would anyone want to have an "open, names in the newspaper" hiring process?

The BOE is elected by the community to make those types of decisions. I find no value in opening the process, for all the know. All is does is promote the know it alls to put their 2 cents in and turn it into a joke.

I hope we don't have a coaching search in the near future, however if Tom has professional opportunities (I believe MC said he was going to Iowa State) that better his personal and professional life, I hope the BOE follows the same model they used to select the Super, CLOSED to the public to keep politics out of the decision making process This will allow the best individuals to apply w/o repercussions from their current employer and eliminate public bashing.

The problem is............individuals are more concerned with their horse in the race being selected so their correct in their prediction rather than having the best individual selected. I remember quotes from interviews leaking out and people that were not involved in the actual interview take them out of context to fit their agendas. It is continuously being used against Tom.

For the record Tom never said he didn't want to be the Massillon coach after 3-4 years. He like many of you have professional aspirations and may pursue them if presented.

I recall reading posts that indicated Tom said he "didn't want to be here". This is an example of taking a quote out of context to fit your agenda.


I have no problem with the new SUPER elected by the BOE!!
However, I do have a problem with a coach who says 3-4 years and I would like to pursue or move back to college! Is stance was the same in the paper a few weeks ago!! Did his opinion change? Why? No offers? Does he want to stay in Massillon? he should be the one putting his cards on the table and lobbying for his job!! I think he is gone---IMO ONLY but who knows! I do know we need stability in the program more than 3-4 years regardless of who the HC may be---PERIOD!!!!

I do respect Coach Stacy for being up front with the BOE the 1st time around but we can't wait to see what he wants to do! If the BOE extends his contract and a big time college job opens for him---WHAT---he bolts on us like RR with WVU or Saban, or Petrino only in it for the money! BS to me no matter how you look at it.

You are either with us or not---which one is it! Does he want to be here or justing waiting on the BCS to be over!!

Coach Stacy---tell us what you want to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CATS44]

Coach Dilo is on the face of things a superb hire.

Young, energetic, enthusiastic, and Massillon. He is close with those most involved with the DREAM project. He is of an age in which he could end up being a long term Super.

As for a closed coach search, that is not possible...a totally different thing than hiring an administrator. The head coach position is a supplemental contract, and as such must be posted, and all applications are by law public knowledge.

The problem isnt knowing who the applicants are. The problem is who is doing the search, interviewing, and selection. IMO the selection committee is more important than the actual selection. The right committee with the right foresight will pick the right coach.

[LLRose]

I have no problem with the new SUPER elected by the BOE!!
However, I do have a problem with a coach who says 3-4 years and I would like to pursue or move back to college! Is stance was the same in the paper a few weeks ago!! Did his opinion change? Why? No offers? Does he want to stay in Massillon? he should be the one putting his cards on the table and lobbying for his job!! I think he is gone---IMO ONLY but who knows! I do know we need stability in the program more than 3-4 years regardless of who the HC may be---PERIOD!!!!

I do respect Coach Stacy for being up front with the BOE the 1st time around but we can't wait to see what he wants to do! If the BOE extends his contract and a big time college job opens for him---WHAT---he bolts on us like RR with WVU or Saban, or Petrino only in it for the money! BS to me no matter how you look at it.

You are either with us or not---which one is it! Does he want to be here or justing waiting on the BCS to be over!!

Coach Stacy---tell us what you want to do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe he hasn't pursued or received an offer that meets his family's personal or professional needs?

With all due respect, I hope you're not treated by an employer the way you want the board to treat Tom if you ever decide your current employment situation leads you to contemplate making a career decision that may improve your personal or professional situation.

[LLRose]

The concept is for the board to conduct a professional search to atttact the best possible candidate(s) for the top positions in the district (which wasn't done for a number of positions recently).

To conduct a "targeted search" without including new members of the board (which council recently did for incoming members for a budget work session) encourages rumors and innuendo which unfairly questions the selection process and is irresponsible and unprofessional.

This has nothing to with the public's personal interest in promoting their candidate. Although the public does have a right to reasonable access to the process. To promote the concept the whole process should occur behind closed doors is ridiculous.

I applaud the board for executing a rapid hiring process that leverages past resources to save tax payer $.

[LLRose]

Coach Dilo is on the face of things a superb hire.

Young, energetic, enthusiastic, and Massillon. He is close with those most involved with the DREAM project. He is of an age in which he could end up being a long term Super.

As for a closed coach search, that is not possible...a totally different thing than hiring an administrator. The head coach position is a supplemental contract, and as such must be posted, and all applications are by law public knowledge.

The problem isnt knowing who the applicants are. The problem is who is doing the search, interviewing, and selection. IMO the selection committee is more important than the actual selection. The right committee with the right foresight will pick the right coach.

I appreciate your post, thanks for your insight.

I still don't know who "owns" Massillon.

[DB135]

I applaud the board for executing a rapid hiring process that leverages past resources to save tax payer $.

I doubt those on the new board not included in the process feel the same way. Also does the board keep a file of applicants for these jobs that they keep updated to do their "targeted" searches or is it as it seems from their handling of other district jobs their form of crisis management to handle a unexpected vacancy. It doesn't appear there is any set organizational procedure they are following.

[LLRose]

I doubt those on the new board not included in the process feel the same way. Also does the board keep a file of applicants for these jobs that they keep updated to do their "targeted" searches or is it as it seems from their handling of other district jobs their form of crisis management to handle a unexpected vacancy. It doesn't appear there is any set organizational procedure they are following.

How do you know they didn't reinterview the top 3 candidates that were not selected after the last go around?

Michigan gets blasted for not having a short list of replacements and moving slowly after knowing Carr was going to retire, Massillon moves quickly after I'm sure Blosser informed them he was moving on and they get blasted.

[OTC TIGER]

I doubt those on the new board not included in the process feel the same way.

With all due respect...The "new" board will consist of 1 new member

[DB135]

How do you know they didn't reinterview the top 3 candidates that were not selected after the last go around?

Michigan gets blasted for not having a short list of replacements and moving slowly after knowing Carr was going to retire, Massillon moves quickly after I'm sure Blosser informed them he was moving on and they get blasted.

Because they advised they targeted eighteen candidates for the position and didn't advise that's what they did (The search for Blosser’s successor was a targeted search that focused on a list of roughly 18 candidates, according to board members.) The point was they didn't advise they had a procedure in place to handle these situations in a certain way and they hadn't handled other openings in that way. Where it's true or not it appears they handle openings in whatever manner that suits them and not in a professional way.

The fact they have picked a good applicant this time doesn't validate the arbitrary manner they follow in general to fill their openings.

[DB135]

With all due respect...The "new" board will consist of 1 new member

A guess that makes it all right for him to be excluded from the most important hire the district will make.

[LLRose]

Because they advised they targeted eighteen candidates for the position and didn't advise that's what they did. The point was they didn't advise they had a procedure in place to handle these situations in a certain way and they hadn't handled other openings in that way. Where it's true or not it appears they handle openings in whatever manner that suits them and not in a professional way.

The fact they have picked a good applicant this time doesn't validate the arbitrary manner they follow in general to fill their openings.

I understand your point. I don't have the same concern. It is extremely assumptive to think the hiring wasn't done in a professional manner when you don't have all the facts.

[DB135]

I understand your point. I don't have the same concern. It is extremely assumptive to think the hiring wasn't done in a professional manner when you don't have all the facts.

Actually it is easy to make that determination when the board doesn't follow normal professional procedures or advise that according to board policy the current situations is being handled in a certain manner.

If they had advised that since there was an opening within two years their policy is to review and update applicants from the last hiring it wouldn't have been the problem that "targeted" applicants appears to be.

In another major sports hire there was minimal requirements listed for the job with little to no advertising or a seach performed.

You solve a world of potential problems by having a policy you follow that takes into consideration normal exceptions.

It also doesn't hurt to include any new member(s) when you are so close to them taking their seat on the board.

[Banks]

Maybe the lame duck member should have stepped down and let the winner in early.

[Obie Wan]

Maybe the lame duck member should have stepped down and let the winner in early.

I doubt that's even legal. It's even more doubtful that the other board members would've wanted that to happen.

[Broder]

Just read the Indy Weekender and read the reasons the BOE gave for a quick, silent decision on selecting Mr. DiLoreto as the new Super. I don't know Mr. DiLoreto, but I am sure he is a fine, upstanding individual. From what I have read on MP people think he is a good choice. What I don't like is the way his hiring came about. Everyone says he is a "Massillon Man." Really? He didn't grow up in Massillon and he didn't go to school here!! He left the Massillon school district for the same job in the Jackson school district. I could understand the move if it was upward. But then, Mr. Blosser said "Once a tiger, always a tiger", right? The board said they "lured him back." Do you think $100,000 + in salary had anything to do with the "Lure?" Do you think being good friends with Jeff David had anything to do with the "Lure?" Something just doesn't smell right in everything that is going on. They say that most of the candidates 15 months ago "came with baggage." I know one that didn't, is from Massillon, and has experience running a very successful school system. He wasn't contacted this time. Seems to me that Mr. Blosser came with baggage, but was smarter than the BOE, and didn't tell them. Seems like Mr. DiLoreto was hand picked. Do you think for one moment they are going to use the same procedure in picking our next football coach, when that time comes? I don't care what the BOE says, things change from year to year. The BOE says the process saved dollars. I truly hope Mr. DiLoreto is the "best" man for the job. Because if he isn't, the money the BOE saved will cost us more in the long run. I will back Mr. DiLoreto 100%, because he deserves that, but I'll look long and hard the next time one of the current BOE members run for reelection. Also, don't be naive, the name of the "owner" is in my post. I don't think it is fair to label this person as the owner, either. But, he does seem to have big say in what is going on. He isn't the first and won't be the last person in Massillon to have an influence on hirings. He is just the current one. Having said all this, I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

[CarlE]

I swear to GOD I've never seen more negative people in my life. My God if we had selected Jesus Christ some of you would be on here bitching. Do I like the way the hiring process transpired. Probably not. BUT, the bottom line is you got a GREAT candidate and probably the one that would have been hired anyway. Believe me, with what we've seen in the past (AH) you CERTAINLY could have done much, much worse.

By the way there, Broder guy. The Super LEFT the job to go to Jackson because the idiotic Einsteins running the school system at the time didn't think it was important to give him a contract. Get the facts right before spouting off, please.

Now, I'm done. Time to fight the traffic and go freaking shopping.

[Broder]

CarlE, guy. What facts did I miss? Is Mr. DiLoreto from Massillon? Did Mr. DiLoreto graduate from Massillon Washington? Did he go to the Jackson School District as the Middle School Principle? I didn't attack Mr. DiLoreto...I don't know him. I am upset with the procedure used to appoint him to the position. You are right about the contract, but again that is behind us. In a previous post on this subject, you stated you didn't like the process either and now you want to get on my case for saying the same thing in a different way. I have the right to "Spout Off" if I like, just like everyone else that have made posts. While you are out shopping, see if you can buy a personality.

[smitrmass]

I do not like the choice>.