View Full Version : Religious Boy Dies From Refusing Blood Transfusion
inyourhonor2010
11-30-2007, 10:55 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22032266/wid/11915773?gt1=10613
It's sad how religious fanaticism kills in other ways than terrorism....
WheatCity
11-30-2007, 12:02 PM
If religious fanaticism killed this boy, please explain to me what you feel the difference is between "fanatic" and "devout."
People do/don't do things everyday because of their religious convictions.
SternRulz
11-30-2007, 12:08 PM
It may sound silly to others, but those were his beliefs and he's entitled to them.
We should be extremely thankful the courts didn't step in and rule against him, telling him his beliefs didn't mean anything.
TigerVic
11-30-2007, 12:50 PM
It may sound silly to others, but those were his beliefs and he's entitled to them.
We should be extremely thankful the courts didn't step in and rule against him, telling him his beliefs didn't mean anything.
Yeah- Like Terri Schiavo (or anyone who respects life and doesn't want to be murdered). i somewhat (but not 100%) agree the courts should not have stepped in on the boy's case, but should have stepped in and not allowed the legal murder of Terri.
SuperBran
11-30-2007, 12:54 PM
We should be extremely thankful the courts didn't step in and rule against him, telling him his beliefs didn't mean anything.
people have an absolute right to religious belief. that means that the government cannot interfere with your religious beliefs. they can, however, touch upon religious practice.
massillon catholic
11-30-2007, 12:55 PM
people have an absolute right to religious belief. that means that the government cannot interfere with your religious beliefs. they can, however, touch upon religious practice.
How do you propose the courts handle mooslims that believe they can be married to several women and relative's?
pnthrfan
11-30-2007, 12:58 PM
Yeah- Like Terri Schiavo (or anyone who respects life and doesn't want to be murdered). i agree the courts should not have stepped in on the boy's case, but should have stepped in and not allowed the legal murder of Terri.
I was wondering if someone was going to bring up Terri Schiavo.....remember the debates we had on that thread?? I told myself that if someone brought this up again, I will just sit on the sideline and not join in....:scratchchin:
TigerVic
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
I was wondering if someone was going to bring up Terri Schiavo.....remember the debates we had on that thread?? I told myself that if someone brought this up again, I will just sit on the sideline and not join in....:scratchchin:
I'm not really sure how related Terri's case is to this boy's, so I apologize for any hijacking that was done. However, Terri's death was CAUSED by deliberate dehydration and effects of malnutrition purposefully brought about by her husband and subsequent court orders. This is murder.
WheatCity
11-30-2007, 01:19 PM
How do you propose the courts handle mooslims that believe they can be married to several women and relative's?
The government handles it the same way that they handle isolated polygamists out west. There is no recognition of the 2nd wife in the eyes of the state. But, the government cannot prevent a man living w/ more than 1 woman. The marriage has only religious implications.
Also, I hope you were being facetious in your spelling of "muslims."
SternRulz
11-30-2007, 01:23 PM
people have an absolute right to religious belief. that means that the government cannot interfere with your religious beliefs. they can, however, touch upon religious practice.
If you would, can you define or give me an example of how the courts view the difference between belief and practice? They seem to go hand in hand?
pnthrfan
11-30-2007, 01:25 PM
I'm not really sure how related Terri's case is to this boy's, so I apologize for any hijacking that was done. .
I don't think any apologies are needed for "hijacking" the thread, because there is a correlation between the two. :smile:
SuperBran
11-30-2007, 01:26 PM
The government handles it the same way that they handle isolated polygamists out west. There is no recognition of the 2nd wife in the eyes of the state.
you are absolutely correct. polygamy falls under religious practice, although it is also a religious belief. the government cannot tell you that you should or should not believe in polygamy, but they sure can regulate that practice. i am free to believe, for example, that human sacrafice is acceptable, but i certainly cannot perform such a thing even if my religious says it's right.
since religious practice is not an absolute right, the court must apply a balancing factor to determine whether a practice is acceptable or not.
SuperBran
11-30-2007, 01:29 PM
If you would, can you define or give me an example of how the courts view the difference between belief and practice? They seem to go hand in hand?
sure. see my last post for one example.
you're free to believe whatever it is that you want to believe, and the government cannot regulate that. if your religion believes that it's against your god's word to pay taxes, you have every right to believe that. the government cannot force you to change your views. however, if you actually decide not to pay taxes for that reason, the government can certainly step in.
that's the difference between religious beliefs and religious practice.
SternRulz
11-30-2007, 01:34 PM
sure. see my last post for one example.
you're free to believe whatever it is that you want to believe, and the government cannot regulate that. if your religion believes that it's against your god's word to pay taxes, you have every right to believe that. the government cannot force you to change your views. however, if you actually decide not to pay taxes for that reason, the government can certainly step in.
that's the difference between religious beliefs and religious practice.
Thanks...much clearer.
WheatCity
11-30-2007, 01:40 PM
sure. see my last post for one example.
you're free to believe whatever it is that you want to believe, and the government cannot regulate that. if your religion believes that it's against your god's word to pay taxes, you have every right to believe that. the government cannot force you to change your views. however, if you actually decide not to pay taxes for that reason, the government can certainly step in.
that's the difference between religious beliefs and religious practice.
Christianity's exercise of this principle is evident when Jesus says "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's
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