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austinsm11

11-10-2007, 05:15 PM

With Hart not playing and Henne playing just a bit, I really think they decided to rest those two for Ohio State. They had nothing to lose or gain by losing that game.

I really hope that Ohio State will wake up. I can't believe they didn't review the fumble on the long Illinois run on their first possession. That would have really changed momentum. There was almost a minute between that play and when the ball was snapped on the next play. I can't believe that they wouldn't have had time to look at the fumble quickly and stop the next play to review the fumble.

austinsm11

11-10-2007, 06:28 PM

We'll Ohio State looks absolutely horrible. Outplayed on offense and defense, and outcoached.
I'm also wondering about our punt and kick returns. It seems like we can't break anything for big yardage, but maybe I'm forgetting other games because I'm not in a good mood right now.

Congrats to BG and Illinois.

tiger74

11-10-2007, 06:30 PM

man did boeckman suck! 3 int's is horrible:down:

shortbev

11-10-2007, 07:21 PM

ohio state did get hosed on that fumble...the ruling would have gotten overturned if tressel had jump on it and challegenged the ruling...and that would have been one td they wouldn't have scored

warren1st

11-10-2007, 07:22 PM

That team south of us lost.

Illinois 28

Ohio State 21

The Voice

11-10-2007, 07:30 PM

W1: Looks like things are lining up fer a good one up there in that northern state. Since the Bucks dropped the ball today, emotions are high; especially with Tressel; Because of that; I Got a feeling that OSU is gonna take Blue to the wood shed in this one, After that; WHO knows what will happen. I guess with all of the one loss teams out there; maybe some year the BCS will launch a play off system.

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warren1st

11-10-2007, 07:37 PM

ReineyKicker15

11-10-2007, 07:46 PM

If anything it makes the Big 10 look stronger not weaker.

The Voice

11-10-2007, 08:13 PM

With Blue's core players returning; perhaps you're right, maybe not the wood shed; But my bet is still with USU because of what happened today.

Good luck to both teams;

By the way: How bout that Brian Gamble kid from Massillon huh:smile:

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warren1st

11-10-2007, 08:44 PM

If anything it makes the Big 10 look stronger not weaker.
Why?

warren1st

11-10-2007, 08:46 PM

ohio state did get hosed on that fumble...the ruling would have gotten overturned if tressel had jump on it and challegenged the ruling...and that would have been one td they wouldn't have scored

C'mon, shortbev, there was 59 minutes left to play in the game. It wasn't really a defining moment in the game.

austinsm11

11-10-2007, 09:41 PM

C'mon, shortbev, there was 59 minutes left to play in the game. It wasn't really a defining moment in the game.

That could have been huge. After going up 7 - 0 and giving up such a big play, the bucks get the ball back and probably alot of momentum.

Actually, after OSU scored so quickly I thought to myself that I hope it doesn't end up like the national championship game.

I do give credit to Illinois, however. The made the OSU defense look silly. I believe they had only 1 penalty and no turnovers.

I also think that it makes the Big 10 look stronger and more balanced. It is hard to say that for sure though until Bowl Season.

Tiger2001

11-10-2007, 10:18 PM

That team south of us lost.

You live in Michigan? Sorry I had no idea. Poor fella.

warren1st

11-10-2007, 10:38 PM

You live in Michigan? Sorry I had no idea. Poor fella.
Nope, but NORTH of Columbus. Glad to see you're a good loser.

Out-N-Up

11-11-2007, 09:32 AM

Don't know how anyone could say 7 points wouldn't be big in this one, the fumble would have changed things quite a bit I think.

Anyone else see Mario acting like a little kid the whole game when he left the field?

Have to say OSU was just plain out played and so was Michigan.

Benchboss1

11-11-2007, 09:48 AM

Lost again.

Wisconsin 37
Michigan 21

How would the Buckeyes do against Wisconsin, IN Wisconsin, without Boeckman and C. Wells playing?

Benchboss1

11-11-2007, 09:53 AM

I also think that it makes the Big 10 look stronger and more balanced. It is hard to say that for sure though until Bowl Season.

I compare the Big 10 these days to the Federal League. Remember, balanced and competitive does NOT = tough. The SEC is by far the toughest conference in the country!

Benchboss1

11-11-2007, 10:00 AM

schedules for a minute. Here is the 2007 LSU schedule.

Aug 30 at Mississippi State
Sept 08 Virginia Tech
Sept 15 Middle Tennessee
Sept 22 South Carolina
Sept 29 at Tulane
Oct 06 Florida
Oct 13 at Kentucky
Oct 20 Auburn
Oct 27 Open
Nov 03 at Alabama
Nov 10 Louisiana Tech
Nov 17 at Ole Miss
Nov 23 Arkansas

Here is the 2007 OSU schedule.

Sept. 1, 2007 Youngstown State
Sept. 8, 2007 Akron
Sept. 15, 2007 at Washington
Sept. 22, 2007 Northwestern
Sept. 29, 2007 at Minnesota
Oct. 6, 2007 at Purdue
Oct. 13, 2007 Kent State
Oct. 20, 2007 Michigan State
Oct. 27, 2007 at Penn State
Nov. 3, 2007 Wisconsin
Nov. 10, 2007 Illinois
Nov. 17, 2007 at Michigan

Judge for yourself who has a tougher schedule.

austinsm11

11-11-2007, 10:01 AM

Where did anyone say OSU played a tougher schedule?

The Voice

11-11-2007, 10:39 AM

It is because of that reason (the schedule) as far as teams with one loss; that OSU; doesn't stand a chance at the big bowl.

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TigerDL71

11-11-2007, 10:47 AM

I compare the Big 10 these days to the Federal League. Remember, balanced and competitive does NOT = tough. The SEC is by far the toughest conference in the country!

The Big 12 is not looking too bad this year as well. Oklahoma, Missiouri, Kansas, Oklahoma State is no slouch, Texas just to name a few.

TigerDL71

11-11-2007, 10:50 AM

Frankly, I think it points out how weak the B10 really is.

This is a HUGE game for both teams. I don't see either taking the other to the wood shed. Remember, Henne and Hart didn't play and Mallet played like a typical freshman other than Leach, Grbac and Henne himself!

Henne is way overrated IMO. The only reason why he has those records at Michigan is because he has started all 4 years there, he also chokes in big games. Mallet looked pretty good considering the circumstances ( him being a freshmen and having to come from behind, Carr's decision to go for it on 4th down,manningham in his ear the whole game). If I was a Michigan fan I would hope that Henne keeps that headset on and stays on the sideline next week. I don't understand why Carr went for it on 4th and 20 from his own 2 yard line but then later he had 4th and 10 from his own 20 and elected to punt.

warren1st

11-11-2007, 11:17 AM

If I was a Michigan fan I would hope that Henne keeps that headset on and stays on the sideline next week.

Lol!! While I am no longer a Carr supporter, I'm certainly glad you're not coaching UM next week!!

Benchboss1

11-11-2007, 11:22 AM

Where did anyone say OSU played a tougher schedule?

Nowhere. I never said that anyone did. I was just comparing schedules, and trying to show why I feel the SEC is the best conference this year and why the Big 10 is average at best.

TigerDL71

11-11-2007, 11:29 AM

Lol!! While I am no longer a Carr supporter, I'm certainly glad you're not coaching UM next week!!

There was still 3 minutes left in thee game, but I don't remeber how many timeouts michigan had left, I thought they had some. Go for it on your own 2 and you don't get it the game is for sure over. You punt it there, then get a 3 and out you still have a chance to at least score then go for an onside kick. They were only down by 9 at that point in the game.

warren1st

11-11-2007, 11:39 AM

There was still 3 minutes left in thee game, but I don't remeber how many timeouts michigan had left, I thought they had some. Go for it on your own 2 and you don't get it the game is for sure over. You punt it there, then get a 3 and out you still have a chance to at least score then go for an onside kick. They were only down by 9 at that point in the game.
You have a good point on going for it but to want Henne on the bench just doesn't make sense to me. UM must play a heck of a game to win with the old-fashioned Carr-concepts and Henne gives us much more of that chance. With Ryan Mallett, we have 0 chance to win.

TigerDL71

11-11-2007, 11:43 AM

You have a good point on going for it but to want Henne on the bench just doesn't make sense to me. UM must play a heck of a game to win with the old-fashioned Carr-concepts and Henne gives us much more of that chance. With Ryan Mallett, we have 0 chance to win.

I think if you give Mallett some more experience and some confidence, and people will be saying Chad Henne who. I just don't think Henne is that good but thats just my opinion. Like I said, he chokes in big games and has been starting by default basically because there has been no one there behind him.

CarlE

11-11-2007, 12:43 PM

Although not for the National Championship, the game next week has some old-time flavor to it. The winner goes to the Rose Bowl. Kind of cool since the national title hunt is gone. Warren1st and I get reminisce about some of the old-time, Bo and Woody classics this week.

warren1st

11-11-2007, 01:52 PM

Shoot, CarlE, I can reminisce about Wes Fesler and Benny Oosterbaan.

How are ya?

The Voice

11-11-2007, 06:05 PM

Why didn't Tressel throw the red flag when Illinois fumbles the ball into the endzone and OSU recovered it; which could have totally changed the complextion of the game and perhaps the ending? :Oo:

Just wondering

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