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The Voice

10-18-2007, 09:09 AM

TigerLily

10-18-2007, 09:15 AM

That was my first reaction too. TMI……we do not need this kind of information as a headline right on the front page.

Come on….have some common sense.

TigerCoach

10-18-2007, 09:30 AM

Can someone post the link? For some reason, I do not see the article online. But, that may be intentional also???

Kamd50

10-18-2007, 09:48 AM

It seems to have magically disappeared. I also saw it earlier, and my first reaction was one of equal disgust. What in the hell were those people thinking?

xtiger

10-18-2007, 09:51 AM

As my little boy was eating his bowl of Wheaties, I went and got the
paper on the porch. I opened it up and my son saw the headline.
He said "Dad, whats masturbate mean?".

Hey Inde, show some class, and in the meantime go

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Seeker

10-18-2007, 09:56 AM

What was the article about?

TigerCoach

10-18-2007, 10:19 AM

tiger embalmer

10-18-2007, 10:57 AM

My opinion about this matter was not complete by press deadline. Please visit www.indeonline.com for complete opinion coverage.

Slammer

10-18-2007, 10:59 AM

If you haven't heard about it, you will be shocked. All I can say is I'm laughing my a@@! off. If you have kids in school I'm sure it will get to you.

longtimefirsttime

10-18-2007, 11:16 AM

Perhaps it's a trial balloon to see how many papers are sold today based on the word of mouth over the colorful headline.

LEOGER

10-18-2007, 11:49 AM

Could this be the reason my newspapers have not been delivered today?

obie7661

10-18-2007, 12:07 PM

What was the article about?

Here's an article in The Youngstown Vindicator about the incident. It appears the Inde pulled their link.

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/313245909937191.php

xtiger

10-18-2007, 12:17 PM

Did you explain about the time he walked in on you in the shower? LOL!!!

After I explained what the term meant, he said "dad did you know anybody
that did that?" I told him that Tigercoach used to do it all the time
in the locker room before big games. lol

Al.

10-18-2007, 12:26 PM

I told him that Tigercoach used to do it all the time
in the locker room before big games. lol

Is that called "getting up for the game" :scratchchin:

Kamd50

10-18-2007, 12:26 PM

Here's an article in The Youngstown Vindicator about the incident. It appears the Inde pulled their link.

http://www.vindy.com/content/local_regional/313245909937191.php

Perhaps The Inde should see if someone over there can teach them how to use some journalism skills so they can learn how to come up with and print a less offensive headline.

I can only imagine how any seniors who got their papers this morning reacted when they saw the Enquirer-like headlines as they gathered to have morning coffee with their friends or spouses:doh:

xtiger

10-18-2007, 12:40 PM

Is that called "getting up for the game" :scratchchin:

:lol:

massillon catholic

10-18-2007, 12:41 PM

Couldn't they just have said "he was pleasuring himself"?

obie7661

10-18-2007, 12:44 PM

Perhaps The Inde should see if someone over there can teach them how to use some journalism skills so they can learn how to come up with and print a less offensive headline.

I can only imagine how any seniors who got their papers this morning reacted when they saw the Enquirer-like headlines as they gathered to have morning coffee with their friends or spouses:doh:

The headline was for shock value, they think it will sell more papers.

I canceled our subscription to the Inde last month, after many, many years as a subscriber.

The Inde, IMO, is going downhill fast.

massillon catholic

10-18-2007, 12:45 PM

The headline was for shock value, they think it will sell more papers.

I canceled our subscription to the Inde last month, after many, many years as a subscriber.

The Inde, IMO, is going downhill fast.

Maybe they should bring back Porter.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

10-18-2007, 01:16 PM

Xtiger,

I can't believe your post. At first...I'm like "tell me I didn't see that." Wow...it seems like everyone is P.O.'d at the Massillon Independent. I haven't seen a thread with such animosity since the thread regarding the now extinct Obie's Tavern.

TigerLily

10-18-2007, 01:20 PM

I’m still fuming about it. The paper is always on a table by my desk at work and
I have to make sure it is turned over or covered up.

They need to print an apology on the front page of tomorrow’s paper --- period.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

10-18-2007, 01:26 PM

TigerLily,

Do you think it would have been different if the perpetrator was an internet predator who happened to get picked up by Massillon police......finest police in all of Stark County?

TigerLily

10-18-2007, 01:38 PM

It's all in the wording....you know better than anyone Keno...there are lots and lots of words out there to use (Mr. King of vocabulary http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Happy/happy-005.gif).

They don't have to stoop to these levels.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

10-18-2007, 01:58 PM

The article is an arrogant, sardonic, senseless, freakish, awful, crazy, egotistical, demeaning one!

4 You TigerLily!

The Voice

10-18-2007, 02:21 PM

obie7661

10-18-2007, 02:53 PM

Talked to McCune this morning (Editor).. blasted him on it.. he says they haven't received any phone calls or anything out of the order on this.. He could be sand bagging though; I say we should call and complain.. ON THE LINE BABY...ON THE LINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Calling and complaining will not get the Inde's attention.

Want to get their attention:

CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION !!!

Marie

10-18-2007, 03:57 PM

I did that long ago. They don't seem to care.

The sad thing is they let this man have foster children.

massillon catholic

10-18-2007, 04:00 PM

You need to go after the advertisers by threatening to not do business with them if they continue using the inde. This will work much better than a few people cancelling subscriptions.

DAWGH8R

10-18-2007, 04:24 PM

I guess I don't see what all the fuss is about. At least they didn't say 'BEATIN' OFF' !!

shooter

10-18-2007, 06:36 PM

Did I read that correctly? The guy was 56 and still that "horny"? Wow, hats off to him. He does appear to be lacking in the judgement area though.

shortbev

10-18-2007, 08:55 PM

too many questions going thru my little mind...concerning the guy involved

(these are rhetorical questions, i am sooooo very sure i do NOT want to know the answer to the questions)

WHY???

DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD???

HE COULDN'T WAIT???

WOULDN'T THAT CAUSE A SERIOUS DISRUPTION TO ONE'S DRIVING ABILITIES???...

HOW SICK IS THAT???

AND

HOW DID THE TRUCKER NOT WRECK HIS TRUCK WHEN HE SPOTTED THIS???

more questions are popping into my head...i need to go watch the indians game and get my mind where it really should be...and that is out of the gutter...

what is our world coming to???

does remind me of the seinfield episode "MASTER OF YOUR DOMAIN?"...

ChronicTiger

10-18-2007, 11:02 PM

Did I read that correctly? The guy was 56 and still that "horny"? Wow, hats off to him. He does appear to be lacking in the judgement area though.

:wtf:

My first thought is the guy is a perv or a ped or both.....my hats not off to this guy.....

:dead:

man2man

10-19-2007, 01:16 AM

I don't see what the problem is here. Masturbate is the correct term, not slang. Is the problem because it was in a headline? It was an accurate use of a clinical term. The story itself is shocking - no way to report it any other way.

Obie Wan

10-19-2007, 01:49 AM

The story is more salacious than newsworthy. It's unclear why it belongs on the front page under any headline.

The Voice

10-19-2007, 08:34 AM

Hey m2m..the word F--K is real and we don't use it in our headlines.. wake up dude.. its called journalistic integrity and more importantly RESPECT for the community and those who read it

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DAWGH8R

10-19-2007, 09:24 AM

man2man

10-19-2007, 09:36 AM

Hey m2m..the word F--K is real and we don't use it in our headlines.. wake up dude.. its called journalistic integrity and more importantly RESPECT for the community and those who read it

Terrible comparison. Masturbate is a clinical term, your example is guttural slang. And here's a hint - they're in business to sell papers and use eye-catching headlines to do so.

What other words offend your sensitivity :sad2: ? Flatulence? Uterus? Rectum?

Listen - the whole story is perverted. There's no pretty side to the report. Journalistic integrity is getting the story factually correct. They did their job.

TigerLily

10-19-2007, 10:05 AM

Listen - the whole story is perverted. There's no pretty side to the report. Journalistic integrity is getting the story factually correct. They did their job.

It’s not journalistic integrity -- it’s sensationalism.

It’s one thing to report a story on the inside of the paper with some discretion. It’s a whole other thing to splash it on the front page to try sell papers or for whatever reason.

Well, it didn’t work with me. I called and had yesterday’s paper removed from my bill.

End of story.

MassillonMom

10-19-2007, 11:16 AM

It was just horrible that's what it was...

We just threw the paper away.

Guess the local advertisers didn't get their money's worth yesterday since I bet 90% of all other subscribers did the same thing.

What were they thinking?:huh:

longtimefirsttime

10-19-2007, 11:29 AM

And here's a hint - they're in business to sell papers and use eye-catching headlines to do so.

Channel 19 decided to go the sensationalized reporting route a few years ago. Their news programs are consistently at or near the bottom of the Cleveland TV ratings.

The Voice

10-19-2007, 11:30 AM

Sorry m2m, Dude; you're WAY outta line on this one. It's ethical Journalism verses sensationalism. Look at the response on this thread alone..anger, embarrassment, dissapointment. That; dude is an insult to the community. The Independent has a responsibility to not only serve the community, but to respect its readers with good judgement. Hey m2m, tell me when you're going to sit down with your 10 year old son or daughter and explain to them what the word 'masterbate' means..let me know how that goes .. ok? :wall:

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MassillonMom

10-19-2007, 12:48 PM

You're absolutely right, Voice.

First of all, it didn't even have to be on the front page and second of all the headline, of course.

I sure wouldn't want to be the Inde employee fielding the phone calls yesterday.

What an embarrassment if you worked there.

shooter

10-19-2007, 05:33 PM

I must admit to one of my rare errors. I shouldn't have complimented this obvious pervert. My apologies, really. I thought the whole thing was gross. I am just amazed that a man of 56 was doing this.

DAWGH8R

10-19-2007, 05:42 PM

I am just amazed that a man of 56 was doing this.

How old do you think CarlE is ????

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

10-20-2007, 01:32 AM

DAWGH8R,

Anyone who doesn't know CarlE's age.........come on. At least CarlE isn't like any of those knuckleheads out there. Don't forget he was raised in the strictest Massillon, empirical, tremendous, heartfelt, outstanding, dominant, intelligent, sensational, tiger household in Massillon.

austinsm11

10-20-2007, 06:09 AM

DAWGH8R,

Anyone who doesn't know CarlE's age.........come on.

Isn't obsessed with people they have met over the internet?? ha ha...just kidding.

I wonder how many teachers use the Inde for "newspapers in education" in the classroom. I'm sure the middle schoolers would have had a field day with that.

TigerFan2000

10-20-2007, 10:14 AM

After reading this mornings headline on the front page, I about dropped over. As a 30 year Broadcast Journalist, I will say that the headline using the word 'masterbate' was; to say the least inappropriate. This headline could have been rewritten in several different ways with the actual act being used in the smaller print part of the story. As pathetic and miserable as this story was, I feel the editors actually magnified it. IMHO this headline compromized (sp) the innocence of our younger readers..........embarrassing :sour:

tv

Well this is a little hypocritical....coming from the guy who proclaimed in another post that women have no place in sports. 30 years in broadcast journalism? Please review your vita, so we have an understanding of the credibility you bring in criticizing a working journalist.

A journalist with 30 years of experience would surely have seen other headlines much more concerning or sensational over the years in newspapers like the NY Times, Wash Post, etc. It is laughable that a silly headline like this in a mediocre at best small town newspaper brought such offense to someone of your background who should have "seen it all" over the years....Maybe there's a little exaggeration or mis-representation of your experience??:scratchchin:

Dr Strangemind

10-20-2007, 11:08 AM

Well this is a little hypocritical....coming from the guy who proclaimed in another post that women have no place in sports. 30 years in broadcast journalism? Please review your vita, so we have an understanding of the credibility you bring in criticizing a working journalist.

A journalist with 30 years of experience would surely have seen other headlines much more concerning or sensational over the years in newspapers like the NY Times, Wash Post, etc. It is laughable that a silly headline like this in a mediocre at best small town newspaper brought such offense to someone of your background who should have "seen it all" over the years....Maybe there's a little exaggeration or mis-representation of your experience??:scratchchin:

Why the uncalled-for attack? TV is just being straight-forward and honest, like a decent journalist should. He suggested more approproate wording for a front-page headline, which makes sense.

It's because he freakin' CARES!!

The Voice

10-20-2007, 01:06 PM

tigerfan2000.. who put cheerios in your underwear dude!!!!!!!!!!!! GET OFF MY BACK!.. and YES.. it IS thirty years as an HONEST JOURNALIST.. The women in sports deal was an off the wall comment on a private website, that I still stand by.. the headlines in a newspaper introduced YOUR KID TO MASTERBATION.. thus taking away just a little more innocence. when it comes to real Journalism and standing for what is right in a community, I'LL TAKE YOU ON ANY TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now; either wake up, or GO AWAY!

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TigerFan2000

10-20-2007, 01:46 PM

I apologize Voice. I understand where you are coming from regarding the headline. I must have drank a bad cup of coffee this morning. I'd just like to see a little more consistency in your positive and community caring persona. It's too bad you are sticking with your position that women do not belong in sports. Just seems like you are contridicting yourself, which leads to a decreased level of credibility. It's also very offensive and demeaning to the many women and high school girls who post and lurk on MP.com. That's all I'm saying.

The Voice

10-20-2007, 05:44 PM

2000; at the risk of this thread being hijacked to another topic; I was basing this announcer on professional ability, which; she had none. Nor did the stadium announcer at Bengal stadium when the Tigers played against Moeller.
The rest was fullhearty, and was not meant to be INTERPRETED as a bash on women. If you want to talk with me about women in society, lets saddle up; but please don't use this thread as a platform to attack me as you did.. and YES, I do care about my community..IT IS NOT A PERSONA! And; if you want to challenge my credibility; I'm ready. After all; when all is said and done; 'credibility' is all we really have in the end anyway!

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massillon catholic

10-20-2007, 06:35 PM

:sleepy:

The Voice

10-20-2007, 07:15 PM

WAKE UP MC!!!!!!!!!!!! It's time for the Indians..Sorry about boring you guys to death.. it's fun ya know :cylon:

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man2man

10-20-2007, 11:04 PM

The rest was fullhearty

The word your looking for here is "foolhardy", not "fullhearty". The former means "daring without judgment; speaking or acting boldly without reason". The latter is not even a word. I know as a credible communicator you would want to get it right.

And here's a thought: it's 2007 - women now have every right to try for and attain any job available. Your taking offense with common words and women's rights is what hurts your credibility most of all.

The Voice

10-21-2007, 01:42 PM

Then perhaps the real porblem lies with those who hired the announcers. Male or female, they are terrible. (I will be the first to admit that my spelllin is terible..you see as a 30+ year Broadcast Journalist, nobody gave a damn on how I spelled things, they we're more interested on on I delivered!)
Question my spelling all you want m2m, but don't question anything else. You don't want to go there. :pimp:

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