The playoff scenario

[Coke Guy]

Stupid question. If we have 11 or so points how do we end up with 10 or so points if we lose out and nobody we beat wins? Do they take points away?

[Obie Wan]

Stupid question. If we have 11 or so points how do we end up with 10 or so points if we lose out and nobody we beat wins? Do they take points away?

No, they don't take points away. However, the divisor does change. After 8 weeks L1 points (21.5 in our case) are divided by 8. After 10 weeks, they are divided by 10. In other words, we get 2.6875 points from these games now, but only 2.15 points after 10 weeks. 2.6875 - 2.15 = .5375. We now have 11.2734 points. Our minimum total for the year (if we finish 4-6 and Middletown, Ursuline, Buchtel and Warren lose out) is 10.7359. 11.2734 - 10.7359 = .5375. As you can see, this difference is entirely due to the larger L1 divisor after 10 weeks.

[Coke Guy]

Thanks OW. Im glad you know what your doing because I dont have a clue.

[npaflas]

1 8-0 268 Brunswick Brunswick 25.8375 47.5 199.0 100 clinched playoff spot 38.1500 32.3500 32.8500 25.8500 100
2 7-1 1704 Toledo Whitmer 20.9500 38.0 162.0 100 control own destiny 33.7500 27.3000 26.5000 21.1500 100
3 6-2 730 North Canton Hoover 19.2000 34.0 149.5 100 control own destiny 30.8500 26.6000 23.7500 19.5000 100
4 7-1 1116 Macedonia Nordonia 18.7875 41.5 136.0 100 control own destiny 31.1000 26.5500 24.6000 18.9500 100
5 7-1 1606 Wadsworth Wadsworth 15.7000 40.0 107.0 100 . 27.6500 23.0500 21.5000 15.8000 100
6 6-2 1244 Massillon Perry 14.6327 35.0 99.5 97 . 27.5351 23.3082 19.1701 14.9433 97
7 6-2 1248 Perrysburg Perrysburg 14.0625 32.5 100.0 100 . 26.7000 21.6000 18.9500 13.8000 100
8 6-2 616 Fremont Fremont Ross 13.5250 35.0 91.5 100 . 24.8000 21.4500 18.1000 13.8500 100
9 5-3 1360 Toledo St John's Jesuit 13.3625 28.5 98.0 100 . 24.6000 18.9500 17.7500 13.2000 100
10 6-2 1492 Stow Stow-Munroe Falls 12.8125 34.5 85.0 100 . 22.3000 15.5000 18.7500 11.9500 100
11 5-3 650 Canton GlenOak 12.7375 29.5 90.5 100 . 25.2500 20.8000 17.6500 12.0000 100
12 4-4 1624 Massillon Massillon Washington 11.2734 21.5 85.0 99 . 19.9157 14.3096 15.1298 10.7359 99
13 5-3 626 Akron Garfield 9.6111 28.0 60.5 99 . 17.6879 14.2535 13.4061 10.0222 99
14 4-4 740 Hudson Hudson 9.5000 24.0 65.0 100 . 20.7500 14.8000 13.6500 8.9000
according to this Massillon has 11.2734

[Banks]

Stupid question. If we have 11 or so points how do we end up with 10 or so points if we lose out and nobody we beat wins? Do they take points away?

It's a average, more or less

[Obie Wan]

Here's one scenario. If you figure the team with the better record to win each game (ties work to the advantage of the team whose points are being calculated):
Perry: 24.5969
St.Johns: 22.3500
Fremont Ross: 18.8000
GlenOak: 18.4000
Perrysburg: 17.6500
Wadsworth: 17.5000
Stow: 16.1000
Massillon: 15.3702

[TIGER27]

you forgot brunswick

[Obie Wan]

you forgot brunswick
No, I didn't. The assumption is that Brunswick, Hoover, Nordonia, and Whitmer are in. As such, I'm only concerned with the teams scrambling to fill the other 4 spots.

[ChronicTiger]

No, I didn't. The assumption is that Brunswick, Hoover, Nordonia, and Whitmer are in. As such, I'm only concerned with the teams scrambling to fill the other 4 spots.

When problem solving its always best to first list your assumptions.

:thumbsup:

[JakeGiant]

He did. One needs to read the "assumption" at the top of the Playoff Calculations Link.

[ChronicTiger]

He did. One needs to read the "assumption" at the top of the Playoff Calculations Link.

LOL...I was looking at the post a few above that said here is one scenario..........Nice police work though.......

:puke:

[JakeGiant]

Police work? Don't fault me because I was paying attention in class. :biggrin: :drinkem:

[massillon catholic]

I think perrysburg would represent the region, well!

[hartville tiger]

The tigers could probably beat 90percent of the teams on the list.

[Fats]

The tigers could probably beat 90percent of the teams on the list.

The Tigers just needed to beat the teams on our schedule! This team has great potential. I am just hoping we get to the playoffs, because I really believe this team can make a great run in the playoffs.

[tiger embalmer]

We all want to see Massillon get into the playoffs, but come on. I think we are just giving false hope to the team and ourselfs. The team just needs to to do their best to win the next two games and then prepare for next season. There is a awful lot that needs to happen in order to see Massillon get into the playoffs and 90-95% of the things that that need to happen will not.


Win or Lose Massillon Always!

[npaflas]

We all want to see Massillon get into the playoffs, but come on. I think we are just giving false hope to the team and ourselfs. The team just needs to to do their best to win the next two games and then prepare for next season. There is a awful lot that needs to happen in order to see Massillon get into the playoffs and 90-95% of the things that that need to happen will not.


Win or Lose Massillon Always!

I agree with you on this on. Let's get a long winning streak going on 2 in a row starting now.

[tigerjoe]

In line with the philosophy of "you have to play the best to be the best" we scheduled several playoff calibre teams in the regular season...which has effectively eliminated us from the very playoffs which we had hoped we were preparing for! Much to the jubilation of the other "competitive" teams in region 2. Isn't that shooting ourselves in the foot? Or is the anatomical part higher?

[OTC TIGER]

I think perrysburg would represent the region, well!

You mean like Whitmer..:laughing:

[ChronicTiger]

In line with the philosophy of "you have to play the best to be the best" we scheduled several playoff calibre teams in the regular season...which has effectively eliminated us from the very playoffs which we had hoped we were preparing for! Much to the jubilation of the other "competitive" teams in region 2. Isn't that shooting ourselves in the foot? Or is the anatomical part higher?

We could have easily won two of those games and you would be at the bar talking about how battle tested and playoff ready we are.

:puke:

[tiger#22]

We all want to see Massillon get into the playoffs, but come on. I think we are just giving false hope to the team and ourselfs. The team just needs to to do their best to win the next two games and then prepare for next season. There is a awful lot that needs to happen in order to see Massillon get into the playoffs and 90-95% of the things that that need to happen will not.


Win or Lose Massillon Always!

Agree with this,,,too many expectations before the season and too much false hope for the playoffs right now.

[tigerjoe]

Unfortunately, the same scheduling issues contributed to Shepas' poor win/loss record as well, and, to this day few can recall how his schedule was touted as the toughest in the state- we just hear 4-6 and gloss the rest over. I say unfortunately, because, like most Tiger fans I love seeing our Tigers play some of the best teams in Ohio. It just has become more apparent to me lately that people soon forget about the strength of the schedule and focus immediately on the # of losses. In other words we're not getting any style points for losing to good programs early.

[TIGER27]

Hey guys the feds winning records over each other are something we should strive for



NOT

[tigerjoe]

I made no mention of FED nor did I imply FED. Thank you

[MRR55]

we are not making the playoffs this year.

[Keith]

Take it a game at a time folks. Worry about this week and then see what happens.

[Spize]

It is over, no playoffs possible, details to come on the lair later.

http://www.massillontigerslair.com/index.php?topic=899.0

I am updating some things there.

BTW, It is 100%. The highest we can go is 15.92 points, and that is questionable at this point. (with Elder beating W.H. assumed)

That will not get us in, even if we were D5 we would be out.

It is now statistically impossible too.

[ChronicTiger]

Beat Mck!!!

:pimp:

[RossFan]

There still may be hope in Tigertown. Fremont Ross and St. John's BOTH lost tonight. Perrysburg did win though....amazing.

[Spize]

There still may be hope in Tigertown. Fremont Ross and St. John's BOTH lost tonight. Perrysburg did win though....amazing.

Unfortunately not. No L2s, so we are done.

[DAWGH8R]

Thanks for the updates anyhow Spize. The McKinley game is for PRIDE only !!

[Obie Wan]

It is over, no playoffs possible, details to come on the lair later.

http://www.massillontigerslair.com/index.php?topic=899.0

I am updating some things there.

BTW, It is 100%. The highest we can go is 15.92 points, and that is questionable at this point. (with Elder beating W.H. assumed)

That will not get us in, even if we were D5 we would be out.

It is now statistically impossible too.
Not so fast. We will finish behind Wadsworth, Perrysburg, and the Perry/GlenOak winner. Although the odds are slim, there is still a chance for us to take the 8th seed.

[DAWGH8R]

Not so fast. We will finish behind Wadsworth, Perrysburg, and the Perry/GlenOak winner. Although the odds are slim, there is still a chance for us to take the 8th seed.

If only making the playoffs were as easy as scoring Tribe World Series tix.......... :poke:

[tigerbill]

I'm confident we'll get in. Remember a couple weeks back Man2Man predicted we'd make the playoffs. He hasn't been wrong on anything yet. He has been kinda silent lately, though. Has he been banned?

Bummer. What high hopes for this team

Tigerbill

[Obie Wan]

I'm confident we'll get in. Remember a couple weeks back Man2Man predicted we'd make the playoffs. He hasn't been wrong on anything yet.
Well, to paraphrase Carl Spackler: "We got that going for us."

[Al.]

Remember a couple weeks back Man2Man predicted we'd make the playoffs. He hasn't been wrong on anything yet. He has been kinda silent lately, though. Has he been banned?
Tigerbill

...and to add one more of Carl Spackler's quotes: "Au revoir, gopher"

[obie2000]

That is actually 4 teams in front of us lost Massillon Perry, Freemont Ross, Tol St John, and Glen Oak! With a little more luck looks like it may be close!

[JakeGiant]

That is actually 4 teams in front of us lost Massillon Perry, Freemont Ross, Tol St John, and Glen Oak! With a little more luck looks like it may be close!

Yes, between those 4 plus Stow. If Perry beats GlenOak(like I think), they're in. That leaves 1 spot for the other 3.

[Striker300]

Also Whitmer!

[MR EMPTY PANTS]

you people r dreaming

[pyromaniac]

you people r dreaming

Maybe true, but what is life without dreaming?

[DAWGH8R]

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/AGF/9414~Martin-Luther-King-Dream-Posters.jpg

[DB135]

http://www.joeeitel.com/hsfoot/2007region_2.html

[massillonmarine]

Um, doesn't say mathematically eliminated ;)

[massillon catholic]

When pigs fly!

[Spize]

Um, doesn't say mathematically eliminated ;)

it also doesn't take into account that w.h. plays elder.
That Cuyahoga Falls can't beat a drum, yet alone beat Stow.


Ok, you want to know how it MAY be statistically possible, I will tell you.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
(P.S. This is the only Scenario left.)

Massillon DEF W.H.
Massillon DEF Mck
MiddleTown DEF Princeton
Ursuline DEF SVSM
Buchtel DEF East
WGH DEF Cathedral Prep
Cuyahoga Falls DEF Stow
Sandusky DEF Ross
Desales DEF St John's
Mistake removed.
Clay DEF Libbey
Southview DEF North
Napolean DEF Findlay
Perry DEF GlenOak
Cloverleaf, Boardman, or Orville win
Norton DEF Roosevelt
Garfield DEF North
Normandy DEF Twinsburg
Brush DEF Twinsburg
Brunswick DEF Medina
Nordonia DEF Garfield Heights
Mayfield DEF Hudson

If one of those does not happen, then we are out. Just one. I didn't notice this scenario last night, but it is the only way.

It is not very likely, if we can't get 1 game to go our way last night from our defeated teams, can we expect to get 22games to go our way?

The sad part is that if we had got 2-3 more L2 wins (Mck beats Jackson, Buchtel makes an extra point, Mason doesn't get a late 4th quarter 2 point conversionv, Mck doesn't have to forfeit to detroit) then we would be talking about a very very very real playoff hope. Then again, if we move the ball 1 inch more against Solon then it is irrelevant too.

[lizzy]

maybe its my eyes...but do we really findlay to beat napoleon and napoleon to beat findlay???? just curious how that would work.

[tigersrbest]

Maybe that's the problem - they both have to win for us to have a chance, which I guess translates to "No Chance!"

[JakeGiant]

maybe its my eyes...but do we really findlay to beat napoleon and napoleon to beat findlay???? just curious how that would work.

For Spize, I realized what you stated, also. Just one SNAFU, and Massillon is done. For the sake of argument, you would want Napoleon to win as Fremont and SJJ have wins over Findlay this season.

[lizzy]

warren may pick up win by virtue of a forfeit from Inkster(MI)....does it even matter???

[obie2000]

That pick up by Warren can only help ..... this is good news not great just good

[DAWGH8R]

Maybe we should start scheduling the teams that always finish in the top 8 in our Region !!!

[obie2000]

That would probably help out a bit!

[hitman]

it also doesn't take into account that w.h. plays elder.
That Cuyahoga Falls can't beat a drum, yet alone beat Stow.


Ok, you want to know how it MAY be statistically possible, I will tell you.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN.
(P.S. This is the only Scenario left.)

Massillon DEF W.H.
Massillon DEF Mck
MiddleTown DEF Princeton
Ursuline DEF SVSM
Buchtel DEF East
WGH DEF Cathedral Prep
Cuyahoga Falls DEF Stow
Sandusky DEF Ross
Desales DEF St John's
Findlay DEF Napolean
Clay DEF Libbey
Southview DEF North
Napolean DEF Findlay
Perry DEF GlenOak
Cloverleaf, Boardman, or Orville win
Norton DEF Roosevelt
Garfield DEF North
Normandy DEF Twinsburg
Brush DEF Twinsburg
Brunswick DEF Medina
Nordonia DEF Garfield Heights
Mayfield DEF Hudson

If one of those does not happen, then we are out. Just one. I didn't notice this scenario last night, but it is the only way.

It is not very likely, if we can't get 1 game to go our way last night from our defeated teams, can we expect to get 22games to go our way?

The sad part is that if we had got 2-3 more L2 wins (Mck beats Jackson, Buchtel makes an extra point, Mason doesn't get a late 4th quarter 2 point conversionv, Mck doesn't have to forfeit to detroit) then we would be talking about a very very very real playoff hope. Then again, if we move the ball 1 inch more against Solon then it is irrelevant too.


Well documented! So time to put the hopes to sleep until next year!

[Spize]

warren may pick up win by virtue of a forfeit from Inkster(MI)....does it even matter???

Yes, it does matter, but only on a couple of L2s.

Ok, here is the total effect...

Massillon

We still need to beat Mck and everyone we beat, except West High, to win.

And the following help

St. John's.

St. John's needs to LOSE to DeSales

AND

Napolean, Strongsville, OR Libbey WIN

Fremont Ross.

Ross MUST LOSE to Sandusky (this is not very likely)

Anything else to do with Ross does not matter in this scenario.

PERRY/GLENOAK LOSER

If GlenOak. Nothing else would have to happen

If Perry, 3 of 6 teams they beat MUST LOSE.

Stow

1. Lose to Cuyahoga Falls and 3 or LESS L2 wins.
2. Beat Cuyahoga Falls and only 1 L2 WIN.



The uncatchables are

Perry/GlenOak Winner.
Wadsworth
Perrysburg

So IF we could squeak in, it would be for #8 and that is the new scenario with an Inkster forfeit.

It is not longer statistically impossible... however it is more of a longshot than ever... I would say 0.5%

[Spize]

maybe its my eyes...but do we really findlay to beat napoleon and napoleon to beat findlay???? just curious how that would work.

That was a mistake on my part, fixed it.

[Indiana95]

Spize,

I'm very impressed with your research, BUT man do you have a lot of time on your hands. My head hurts after reading through this list of must happens. Thank you though for the perspective.

[MR EMPTY PANTS]

better shot of caples singing the national anthem at mck game, then us reaching the playoffs.

[Obie Wan]

better shot of caples singing the national anthem at mck game, then us reaching the playoffs.
Who is "us"? You're no kind of Massillon fan. You are apparently little more than a semi-literate naysayer with a penchant for grammatically challenged negativity.

No one is saying that Massillon has a good chance to reach the post-season. However, there is a small chance, and those of us with the intellect and mathematical acumen to determine that chance have chosen to present that scenario in a realistic and objective manner. Rather than posting continual reminders of your ignorance, why not leave the discussion to those who are intellectually equipped to productively participate?

[man2man]

Several teams ahead of us lost last night, and one team had to forfeit some games. Did that change anything?

[Banks]

Several teams ahead of us lost last night, and one team had to forfeit some games. Did that change anything?

Who had to forfeit games ?

[longtimefirsttime]

Brunswick has clinched a first round home game. Nordonia, Hoover & Whitmer have clinched playoff spots.

Nine teams are fighting for four spots. Perrysburg and Wadsworth are in the "control own destiny" category. As mentioned several times, Massillon is the longest of longshots. As of this post, they sit 13th.

As far as the forefeit, Inkster, Mi. reportedly had to forfeit eight games for using an ineligible player. They had beaten Warren earlier this season.

[Banks]

As far as the forefeit, Inkster, Mi. reportedly had to forfeit eight games for using an ineligible player. They had beaten Warren earlier this season.

I see Warren is now 4-5

Inkster MI
8/24 Warren G Harding (OH) (4-5) L 0-1
8/30 River Rouge (1-0) L 0-1
9/8 Redford Thurston (1-0) L 0-1
9/14 Ypsilanti Willow Run (1-0) L 0-1
9/22 Dearborn Heights Annapolis (1-0) L 0-1
9/28 Dearborn Heights Crestwood (1-0) L 0-1
10/6 Ecorse (1-0) L 0-1
10/13 Dearborn Heights Robichaud (1-0) L 0-1

[MR EMPTY PANTS]

Who is "us"? You're no kind of Massillon fan. You are apparently little more than a semi-literate naysayer with a penchant for grammatically challenged negativity.

No one is saying that Massillon has a good chance to reach the post-season. However, there is a small chance, and those of us with the intellect and mathematical acumen to determine that chance have chosen to present that scenario in a realistic and objective manner. Rather than posting continual reminders of your ignorance, why not leave the discussion to those who are intellectually equipped to productively participate?

who are you to validate my fan loyalty? i live in the present and demand a winner while most of you live off of pre-1970s massillon fame. that is why you hate a division 2 debate and until you get hit by a dose of reality massillon won`t ever win a divison 1 title.

[MR EMPTY PANTS]

steubenville is a top notch program year and year out because they are in the right division. if big red was playing up to division1 , how many titles you think they could`ve won? "0". open your eyes and wake up , it`s 2007 and we belong in division 2 maybe 3 in a few more years.

ps: as long as we have hard-headed dinosaurs living off of past fame massillon will slowly sink like it has been and things can only get worse.

[Obie Wan]

i live in the present and demand a winner while most of you live off of pre-1970s massillon fame. that is why you hate a division 2 debate and until you get hit by a dose of reality massillon won`t ever win a divison 1 title.

open your eyes and wake up , it`s 2007 and we belong in division 2 maybe 3 in a few more years.

You apparently have no idea how the process of division assignment works. The key word is "assignment". OHSAA tells us what division we are in - we don't get to choose. As long as we're in D1, we will compete for the D1 title.

Maybe you're the one you needs to wake up and deal with reality.

massillon will slowly sink like it has been and things can only get worse

Your constant negativity is neither welcome nor accurate nor productive. I fail to see any benefit that can result from your persistent denigration of the program and its fans.

We don't concede defeat just because the odds are long, and we don't quit just because the task is hard. Apparently you do. Sucks to be you, I guess. I'm glad I'll never know the failure that you live with daily.

[tiger74]

We need to keep a coach for longer then 3-4 years and get a dang system going for our youth programs. That is are problem not the fact we a div 2 type team as mr. empty suggests. we can't keep changing coaches and think success is going to be there. If we keep a coach for awhile and still struggle then I can see moving down. I would love to play brunswick,jackson,perry or north canton in our region but some of those teams will not play us. Did the state not expand the teams that make it so they could go out and schedule some of the big boys without hurting teams playoff chances. we had a good schedule this year but our team decided to play family feud. I for one think massillon should make the playoffs 7 or 8 out of 10 years.

[Spize]

We are 100% officially playing for pride tomorrow.

Go Tigers, Beat Mckinley.

Unless a team or two is found to have played afoul and has to forfeit some games this weekend, but this is what we knew was coming. We are 100% out.

Funny... If I had told you at the beginning of the year that Massillon, Mckinley, and Perry would be staying home week 11, you would have called me crazy.

[MTigers006]

Im not about to give up just yet, by the way, G/O is beating Perry in the 3rd.

Go Tigers. Beat McK

[Mass6]

We are 100% officially playing for pride tomorrow.

Go Tigers, Beat Mckinley.

Unless a team or two is found to have played afoul and has to forfeit some games this weekend, but this is what we knew was coming. We are 100% out.

Funny... If I had told you at the beginning of the year that Massillon, Mckinley, and Perry would be staying home week 11, you would have called me crazy.

While I don't really doubt you, how can this post be "officially" made at 8:12pm??? What games were finished then??? I know Stow lost to C.Falls, and Ursuline beat St.V's, however, Middletown lost again by 1 point and GlenOak beat Perry. Not sure about any of the other senerios.

[Banks]

While I don't really doubt you, how can this post be "officially" made at 8:12pm??? What games were finished then??? I know Stow lost to C.Falls, and Ursuline beat St.V's, however, Middletown lost again by 1 point and GlenOak beat Perry. Not sure about any of the other senerios.

There were some games played on Thursday night.

[Banks]

While I don't really doubt you, how can this post be "officially" made at 8:12pm???


It was 9:12 not 8:12

[RossFan]

Does anybody have a Jackson Hoover score?

[Spize]

The final playoff spot in Region 2 comes down to Ross or GlenOak... huge advantage to Glenoak.

0-9 Lorain Soutview vs 5-4 Lorain Admiral King.

Southview win = Ross playoffs
Admiral King win = GlenOak playoffs.

Perry, Stow, and Massillon are out.

[MTigers006]

with all due respect please explain how so Spize.
Maybe we should have found this new wrinkle in the offence long time ago.

Beat McK

[Spize]

with all due respect please explain how so Spize.
Maybe we should have found this new wrinkle in the offence long time ago.

Beat McK

Right now #8 and #9 are at 18.5000 GlenOak and 18.2500 Ross.

If Southview defeats Admiral King it would give more L2s to Ross putting them at 18.8500

All games that effect GlenOak have been finalized and calculated.

If you are asking how so with Massillon, it is because we can get more than 15 points once all is final, if we get that many I no longer really feel the urge to check because the highest we can get is 15.3 given that west high and Middletown both lost. We will likely finish 11-12th in the region, with a win.

Like I said.... BEAT MCKINLEY

p.s. the southview/admiral king game is tomorrow.

[MTigers006]

Keep us posted Spize, Oh and thanks for everything and all your hard work. Much appreicated by Tiger Fans abroad.

[Go Hooter Go]

Can you think of a worse team to put your playoff hopes in? Come on, Lorain Southview?

[Obie Wan]

How in God's name did Stow lose tonight?

FYI, this is 2 games that Middletown lost this year because they couldn't score from inside the 1.

[MTigers006]

Boy that sounds familiar doesnt it OW?

[Spize]

Boy that sounds familiar doesnt it OW?

It is amazing how many things happened this year to have us miss the playoffs.

It just was not in the cards for whatever reason.

BEAT MCKINLEY.

[MTigers006]

It just hurts when you know everyone in your region is having a bad year and you could have taken advantage of it in the postseason. If we could have had luck go our way and score on one of those drives we wouldnt have this thread and saved you alot of hard work Spize. So close, but yet so far as they say. I shall still pray and hold out hope. When do we begin play in '08 out of curiosity?

[Spize]

. When do we begin play in '08 out of curiosity?

Week 1.

[Spize]

Tell Todd Porter I will take my sandwich on white with ham, lettuce, salami, green pepper, and no cheese.

[Go Hooter Go]

Tell Todd Porter I will take my sandwich on white with ham, lettuce, salami, green pepper, and no cheese.

I was thinking about that too when he made that promise... Anyone still have the LINK?

[Spize]

I was thinking about that too when he made that promise... Anyone still have the LINK?

I am trying to find it right now, lol... where is longtimefirsttime when you need him.

[MTigers006]

Aug 27th????

That can wait untill after the game. The season isnt over yet.

Beat McKinley

[MTigers006]

I HATE Offseason, BTW.

[President skroob]

Spize was your L2 divisor 99 or 98 or does it still not make a difference. (I'm grasping)

[Spize]

Spize was your L2 divisor 99 or 98 or does it still not make a difference. (I'm grasping)

99, but stop grasping... it doesn't make a difference, we would have required one more win against a 5-5 team or better to have been there. Like I said earlier, it is over unless there are some forfeits coming down the pike by key teams by noon on Sunday. (For instance if Normandy or Solon had to forfeit the game against us, giving us a win, and were able to keep 5 of their other wins). That ain't gonna happen, so let's BEAT MCKINLEY and worry about next year starting tomorrow night.

[Obie Wan]

I was thinking about that too when he made that promise... Anyone still have the LINK?
Here ya go (http://cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=375068&Category=17&fromSearch=yes&subCategoryID=29).

[Al.]

Hey Todd
It looks like ham & cheese and chips for everyone. Will you be setting up a table at Fawcett? :jestera:

[LakeCountyTiger]

Can you think of a worse team to put your playoff hopes in? Come on, Lorain Southview?

Yes, how about this team?

Westland 2007
8/24 A Upper Arlington (7-2) [1:3] L 0-70
8/31 H Walnut Ridge (6-3) [2:7] L 0-49
9/7 H Dublin Scioto (5-4) [2:7] L 8-49
9/14 H Hilliard Davidson (6-3) [1:3] L 7-61
9/21 A Marion Harding (1-8) [1:3] L 6-60
9/28 A Gahanna-Lincoln (6-3) [1:3] L 0-58
10/5 H Newark (4-5) [1:3] L 7-56
10/12 H Groveport-Madison (6-3) [1:3] L 8-63
10/19 A Hilliard Darby (9-0) [1:3] L 0-69
10/26 H Lancaster (6-3) [1:3]

Unofficial Region 3 Standings


Official OHSAA Standings

[Go Hooter Go]

True, but they have played a lot of good teams and was a playoff team last year I think maybe.

But Lorain Southview has not won a game in THREE YEARS!

8/24 H Sandusky (4-5) [2:6] L 12-15
8/31 A Elyria Catholic (7-2) [4:14] L 6-42
9/7 H Cloverleaf (5-4) [2:6] L 7-31
9/15 A Cleveland Heights (3-6) [1:1] L 22-41
9/21 A Fremont Ross (6-3) [1:2] L 0-47
9/28 H Bedford (5-4) [1:1] L 0-34
10/5 A Warrensville Heights (6-3) [3:9] L 6-34
10/12 A Shaw (5-4) [2:5] L 0-14
10/20 H North (5-4) [2:5] L 0-20
10/27 H Admiral King (5-4) [1:2]

[Go Hooter Go]

BTW - Does that Ham and Cheese bet only apply to Massillon and McKinley Fans? If not, I'd like mine toasted, with white bread, no lettuce and tomato. :lol:

[Banks]

Beat McK


15 Massillon Washington 13.7121 mathematically eliminated

[DAWGH8R]

Pretty sad when this is the #2 team in REGION 2. WOW, what a schedule !!:scratchchin:

What a tough non-league schedule !!


Hoover 2007
8/24 H Dunbar (DC) (7-2) [2:0] W 38-8
8/31 H Licking Valley (8-1) [3:11] W 45-40
9/7 A Louisville (7-2) [2:7] L 21-35
9/14 H Canton McKinley (3-6) [1:2] W 17-7
9/21 A Boardman (6-3) [1:1] W 38-7
9/28 H Lake (6-3) [2:7] W 42-21
10/5 H GlenOak (5-4) [1:2] L 6-7
10/12 A Austintown-Fitch (1-8) [1:1] W 34-7
10/19 A Perry (6-3) [1:2] W 21-7
10/26 H Jackson (4-5) [1:2] W 31-0

It ain't pretty,.....but it works for them !!

[Banks]

Pretty sad when this is the #2 team in REGION 2. WOW, what a schedule !!:scratchchin:

What a tough non-league schedule !!


Hoover 2007
8/24 H Dunbar (DC) (7-2) [2:0] W 38-8
8/31 H Licking Valley (8-1) [3:11] W 45-40
9/7 A Louisville (7-2) [2:7] L 21-35
9/14 H Canton McKinley (3-6) [1:2] W 17-7
9/21 A Boardman (6-3) [1:1] W 38-7
9/28 H Lake (6-3) [2:7] W 42-21
10/5 H GlenOak (5-4) [1:2] L 6-7
10/12 A Austintown-Fitch (1-8) [1:1] W 34-7
10/19 A Perry (6-3) [1:2] W 21-7
10/26 H Jackson (4-5) [1:2] W 31-0

It ain't pretty,.....but it works for them !!

Thats the Federal league! ( 3 Feds makes the playoffs )

[Keith]

LETS GO SAINTS! Can we get a miracle...PLEASE!!

[Benchboss1]

Thats the Federal league! ( 3 Feds makes the playoffs )





Not to prop the Federal League, I would NEVER do that, but I would be willing to bet that Louisville and Licking Valley would have both beaten Normandy this year. As for Solon, I think that Louisville and Licking Valley would have given the Comets a quality game and would have scored more than seven points against them!