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The Butler
10-02-2007, 03:43 PM
It seems that the folks at PETA aren't happy with Massillon, again.
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This morning, PETA sent an urgent letter to Massillon Mayor Francis H. Cicchinelli Jr. urging him to immediately launch an investigation into the alleged July 28 beating death of a raccoon by Massillon police.

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=11005&section=news&subsection=localnews&title=PETA_Calls_For_Investigation_Into_Raccoon_Be a

mike_da_man13
10-02-2007, 04:31 PM
It seems that the folks at PETA aren't happy with Massillon, again.
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This morning, PETA sent an urgent letter to Massillon Mayor Francis H. Cicchinelli Jr. urging him to immediately launch an investigation into the alleged July 28 beating death of a raccoon by Massillon police.

http://www.akronnewsnow.com/news/itemdetail.asp?ID=11005&section=news&subsection=localnews&title=PETA_Calls_For_Investigation_Into_Raccoon_Be a

even if the story is true, i wonder if these peta folks have ever been around a pissed off raccoon? my guess is no.

The Voice
10-02-2007, 07:54 PM
I think we should package that dang racoon up in a purdy box and wrap in in purdy paper and mail it off to em.. yepper we should . heck; them coons are good eatin!:eyemouth:

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Kick
10-02-2007, 08:46 PM
ah luvs road keel. yum

fellowship
10-02-2007, 10:26 PM
We have an animal control officer in Massillon who should have been called. The animal could have been shot and not beaten to death. Animals feel pain the same as we do. I hope whoever was responsible for this is punished in some way that they will never do it again. What are we teaching our children about comassion if this was done by our police whom we want our children to respect. PETA should have sent a letter to the Mayor weeks ago.

Paul Brown
10-02-2007, 10:31 PM
The animal could have been shot and not beaten to death. Animals feel pain the same as we do.

Ya b/c being shot doesn't hurt.

fellowship
10-02-2007, 10:37 PM
Ya b/c being shot doesn't hurt.

Anyone knows there is less pain being shot and killed instantly then being beat to death.

Paul Brown
10-02-2007, 10:39 PM
Anyone knows there is less pain being shot and killed instantly then being beat to death.

Assuming you're killed instantly. Which is a great assumption.

fyrewood
10-02-2007, 10:43 PM
Also assuming that there weren't bystanders close by who could have been injured or killed by a missed shot or a richochet.....Some people just don't think and get their panties twisted in a bunch more over an animal being dispatched than they would a human.

fellowship
10-02-2007, 10:48 PM
Also assuming that there weren't bystanders close by who could have been injured or killed by a missed shot or a richochet.....Some people just don't think and get their panties twisted in a bunch more over an animal being dispatched than they would a human.

If our police cannot shoot an animal that is on the ground next to them then they should be practicing at the rifle range. This was uncalled for and should be investigated!!! By the way I have every compassion for a human that is hurt.

Paul Brown
10-02-2007, 10:52 PM
If our police cannot shoot an animal that is on the ground next to them then they should be practicing at the rifle range. This was uncalled for and should be investigated!!! By the way I have every compassion for a human that is hurt.

what happens when he shoots the raccoon, it goes in and out, hits the pavement, and ricochets into someone (which is a probable instance). Wasn't a good idea anymore was it?

fellowship
10-02-2007, 10:57 PM
what happens when he shoots the raccoon, it goes in and out, hits the pavement, and ricochets into someone (which is a probable instance). Wasn't a good idea anymore was it?

If they had this animal on the catch pole, all they needed to do was call the animal control officer . she has delt with racoons before or if not her someone with some experience which eveidently these policement did not have. I only hope no children were present to see this. I know I would not want by grand-children to witness this as they love animals . Now lets see what the mayor has to say and what he does about it., Hopefully this will not occur again in Massillon.

Paul Brown
10-02-2007, 11:04 PM
I agree. I hope another rabid animal is never killed in the city of Massillon ever again.

Kamd50
10-02-2007, 11:26 PM
No one said the animal was rabid. And it is a legitimate question as to why animal control wasn't called. I have witnessed two such situations myself involving racoons, and they were always taken away humanely. Once with the animal being released into the woods and the other the animal being taken to an animal shelter out there off of Perry road to be taken care of.

If the animal was attacking someone I could see shooting it, but that clearly was not the case here.

MTigers006
10-03-2007, 03:02 AM
I agree with KamD. Plus animals behave differently than usual when in a stressful situation. Whos to say it wasnt protecting something. The animals are the bad guys here. We are. We are the tresspassers and THEY get killed for it in a vicous uncalled for way like Massillon's Finest! They gonna move on to a human next? Im support PETA on this one.

SuperBran
10-03-2007, 09:12 AM
I agree. I hope another rabid animal is never killed in the city of Massillon ever again.

where does it say that the animal was rabid? pure assumption.

Assuming you're killed instantly. Which is a great assumption.

would you rather be shot to death or beaten to death?

....and didn't you just assume above?


what happens when he shoots the raccoon, it goes in and out, hits the pavement, and ricochets into someone (which is a probable instance). Wasn't a good idea anymore was it?

i think that animal control knows how to deal with an animal without shooting it. they had the thing captured.....all they needed to do was call animal control to have it removed.

fyrewood
10-03-2007, 09:44 AM
The key point here is NONE of us were there and NONE of us here know exactly what happened or why it happened, PETA is just a bunch of sh** stirring activists who will twist the truth to fit their agenda...Don't think so? Read what they had to say about Massillon's treatment of Obie at the bottom of the page here:

http://www.peta.org/campaigns/schoolmascot.asp

CarlE
10-03-2007, 09:55 AM
The key point here is NONE of us were there and NONE of us here know exactly what happened or why it happened, PETA is just a bunch of sh** stirring activists who will twist the truth to fit their agenda...Don't think so? Read what they had to say about Massillon's treatment of Obie at the bottom of the page here:

http://www.peta.org/campaigns/schoolmascot.asp

No doubt. Fyrewood should go get his Glock out and shoot about 100 PETA members. The world would be a better place.

SuperBran
10-03-2007, 10:24 AM
The key point here is NONE of us were there and NONE of us here know exactly what happened or why it happened, PETA is just a bunch of sh** stirring activists who will twist the truth to fit their agenda...

there was a witness who described exactly what happened. they had the animal, dragged it out, and beat it to death. what more do you need?

so if no one was there they how can you say that they're just making it up?

the bottom line is that a LAW was broken. no one is above the law....not even the police.

man2man
10-03-2007, 10:32 AM
I always enjoy hearing humans trying to think like animals.

Paul Brown
10-03-2007, 10:53 AM
where does it say that the animal was rabid? pure assumption.



would you rather be shot to death or beaten to death?

The end result is the same so it really wouldnt matter. I won't live to complain about it will I?

....and didn't you just assume above?

And probably a correct assumption judging the nature of the raccoon.

SuperBran
10-03-2007, 11:14 AM
I won't live to complain about it will I?

no, you would't live to complain....but you'd definitely really suffer while you're being killed.

even though the end result is the same, the way you get there certainly matters. would you rather die in your sleep or have your limbs slowly ripped off? i guess to you it doesn't matter since the result is the same.

And probably a correct assumption judging the nature of the raccoon.

the entire account states:

"An eyewitness tells PETA that the raccoon had taken refuge under a car before three Massillon police officers allegedly dragged the animal across a parking lot at the end of a catchpole. The officers then allegedly beat the raccoon to death using a baseball bat and a shovel, despite the fact that an animal control officer could have been paged to the scene."

so what would lead you to believe that rabies was "probably a correct assumption"?

Paul Brown
10-03-2007, 11:15 AM
no, you would't live to complain....but you'd definitely really suffer while you're being killed.



the entire account states:

"An eyewitness tells PETA that the raccoon had taken refuge under a car before three Massillon police officers allegedly dragged the animal across a parking lot at the end of a catchpole. The officers then allegedly beat the raccoon to death using a baseball bat and a shovel, despite the fact that an animal control officer could have been paged to the scene."

so what would lead you to believe that rabies was "probably a correct assumption"?


I have my doubts on eye witnesses that talk to PETA.

The Voice
10-03-2007, 11:56 AM
I also can't stand the way PETA angles things.. As for this individual case; It seemed that I did read that this animal WAS foaming at the mouth. And I seem to remember that there are codes and laws prohibiting the use of firearms in a situation like this. That being said, could this animal have been shot with a tanquilizer gun and then destroyed more humaneley (sp) ?

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SuperBran
10-03-2007, 12:24 PM
That being said, could this animal have been shot with a tanquilizer gun and then destroyed more humaneley (sp) ?

.....or held until animal control arrived?

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp
10-03-2007, 12:57 PM
PETA needs to leave Massillon alone! Massillon police is the finest police in all of Stark County and has tough-as-steel reputation!

Massillon officers would never do such a thing.

CarlE
10-03-2007, 01:47 PM
PETA needs to leave Massillon alone! Massillon police is the finest police in all of Stark County and has tough-as-steel reputation!

Massillon officers would never do such a thing.

If you're going to be a beat writer, my friend proper English is required:

"Massillon police (plural) ARE the finest police in all of Stark County and HAVE (plural) tough-as-steel reputation.

Your welcome, my good friend.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp
10-03-2007, 01:54 PM
CarlE,

You got me there. Good one.

Obie Wan
10-03-2007, 02:20 PM
PETA is, by and large, a bunch of intrusive busybodies and a pestilence on society.

Having said that, beating a raccoon to death with a shovel and a bat seems to show (at a minimum) extremely poor judgment. If it actually happened the way is was described - because I don't have any trust in PETA's honesty and accuracy.

Rushfan
10-03-2007, 08:04 PM
PETA...what a bunch of sick hypocrites! An underage teenager has an abortion-they don't bat an eye. Somebody swats a mosquito-they go ballistic!This raccoon issue...let's invite PETA to a steak and chicken dinner to talk it over.:chef:

npaflas
10-03-2007, 09:51 PM
You know if that would have happen in the 70's. They wouldn,t had done anything about the raccoon.

SuperBran
10-03-2007, 11:13 PM
PETA...what a bunch of sick hypocrites! An underage teenager has an abortion-they don't bat an eye. Somebody swats a mosquito-they go ballistic!

uh, do you think that maybe (just maybe) the organization doesn't go national about abortion because they're an organization created for the ethical treatment of ANIMALS??? just a guess.

hmmm, here's another thought......maybe that's the same reason that pro-life groups don't get involved in animal abuse cases.

but why use logic?

and by the way, peta taking no stand in the abortion issue doesn't make them hypocrites.

Paul Brown
10-04-2007, 07:03 AM
Everyone knows raccoons are little devil creatures and need to be beaten to death. It's science.

man2man
10-04-2007, 08:50 AM
The fact that PETA exists is an abortion.

Rushfan
10-06-2007, 10:56 PM
uh, do you think that maybe (just maybe) the organization doesn't go national about abortion because they're an organization created for the ethical treatment of ANIMALS??? just a guess.

hmmm, here's another thought......maybe that's the same reason that pro-life groups don't get involved in animal abuse cases.

but why use logic?

and by the way, peta taking no stand in the abortion issue doesn't make them hypocrites.
O.K.,Superbran,let me rephrase that;P.E.T.A. is a bunch of sick a**holes. I was using that scenario as an example of thier mindset. Here's another example. P.E.T.A. wouldn't give a crap if a bunch of thugs beat a little old lady to death to rob her,but if they tripped over her cat on the way out and injured it...anyway,here's a tree for you to hug.:treehugger:

orangeblood
10-07-2007, 07:31 AM
No doubt. Fyrewood should go get his Glock out and shoot about 100 PETA members. The world would be a better place.

I have to agree with the rabid Republican on this one...:biggrin: As far as I am concerned, the policeman was DOING HIS JOB, PROTECTING PEOPLE.

Rushfan
10-07-2007, 02:43 PM
I have to agree with the rabid Republican on this one...:biggrin: As far as I am concerned, the policeman was DOING HIS JOB, PROTECTING PEOPLE.

Well said!

slob55
10-08-2007, 02:31 PM
Everyone knows raccoons are little devil creatures and need to be beaten to death. It's science.

Hilarious.

slob55
10-08-2007, 02:32 PM
The fact that PETA exists is an abortion.

Also hilarious.