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The Voice
10-01-2007, 04:14 PM
Just curious.. several races coming up.. any input on the candidates???????
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CarlE
10-01-2007, 04:19 PM
I'm backing the guy with no job that's running on the skating park platform!! LOL.
massillon catholic
10-01-2007, 04:28 PM
I'm backing the guy with no job that's running on the skating park platform!! LOL.
I'm backing the guy who doesn't want to sell Genshaft, but doesn't know what else to do with it.
TigerCoach
10-01-2007, 04:52 PM
Anyone know anything about the Council President candidates? Gamber & Saracina?
The Voice
10-01-2007, 05:12 PM
You guys crack me up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:jestera:
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I backing the guy in my ward that doesn't have Perry in their last name or lives in Perry School district :scratchchin:
Obie Wan
10-02-2007, 12:53 AM
Anyone know anything about the Council President candidates? Gamber & Saracina?
I've had beers with Gamber. He's a good guy. Absent a compelling reason to vote against him, I'd vote for him.
CarlE
10-02-2007, 07:54 AM
I've had beers with Gamber. He's a good guy. Absent a compelling reason to vote against him, I'd vote for him.
If he sat and had beers with you that's a compelling reason to vote against him. He's NUTS!! LOL:drinkem: :drinkem:
The Voice
10-02-2007, 08:24 AM
Gamber IS NOT the one who scares me!
Kamd50
10-02-2007, 01:55 PM
Gamber IS NOT the one who scares me!
How about elaborating on that, please, Voice? Since it is up to us to be able to make the most informed decision when casting our ballots.
arizona
10-02-2007, 02:32 PM
My choices:
President - Gamber
At-large: Manson, Hersher, Guillian
Ward 1 - Mang
Ward 3 - Walterhouse
Mayor - I think Slater is penciled in as an Independent, but obviously Chicchinelli will win easily.
Yes, Voice, please elaborate.
CarlE
10-02-2007, 02:58 PM
My choices:
President - Gamber
At-large: Manson, Hersher, Guillian
Ward 1 - Mang
Ward 3 - Walterhouse
Mayor - I think Slater is penciled in as an Independent, but obviously Chicchinelli will win easily.
Yes, Voice, please elaborate.
You're voting for Spize's MOM??? OK, good enough for me!! LOL. Teasing, Spize.
Obie Wan
10-02-2007, 03:00 PM
If he sat and had beers with you that's a compelling reason to vote against him. He's NUTS!! LOL:drinkem: :drinkem:
Upon further reflection, that should be sufficient reason to question his judgment (if not his sanity).
Banks
10-02-2007, 03:03 PM
Ward 3 - Walterhouse
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That ward needs HELP !
arizona
10-02-2007, 04:38 PM
I don't know Pinkie and have never exchanged a single word with her, but she WANTS the job. This is her second time running for it, she attends almost every city council meeting, and she's working hard to be elected. Jim Filhour, also a republican in the race, has flat out told the local party leaders that he doesn't plan to do a thing in the way of actual campaigning. I don't mind voting for her for that reason alone. I don't know her son other than his reputation on MP, but I can't judge her based on him. If I'm wrong, there's another election in two years. She can't be any worse than several of the clueless people currently taking up space at city hall. I have to admit, though - her big pink signs are something to behold!
The 3rd ward needs a real councilman back in that position instead of a grandstanding wannabe who always tests the political wind before making a decision and who is controlled by an outside hack.
BTW - Donnie Peters, a republican who ran against democrat Gamber in a ward race, now hangs out with Gamber and feels he is a good man to have in the president's seat.
CarlE
10-02-2007, 05:55 PM
Um, I was teasing. I've never met Tony's Mother but I PROMISE you that she is enthusiastic about the job and is passionate about local politics. For that reason alone she differentiates herself from the majority of the yahoos running.
DAWGH8R
10-02-2007, 06:49 PM
When Filhour was on the board, it was fun to see him and Frank square off.
The Voice
10-02-2007, 07:13 PM
Lets just say that I've seen the opponents temper behind the scenes. It cuts like and knife and I feel there was alot of manipulation as well. IMHO.
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Kamd50
10-02-2007, 07:26 PM
manipulation in what regards and of whom? we can't know what you are talking about if you dont explain it more clearly please.
The Voice
10-02-2007, 07:36 PM
This opponent worked with a neighborhood organization and was very controlling and difficult to get along with. This opinion was echoed throughout the entire organization. I honestly felt that people just plain didn't want to be around this person. I saw this temper first hand. After seeing what I saw, in my own opinion; I sincerely don't think this person could handle running City Council efficiantly.
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Kamd50
10-02-2007, 07:39 PM
thank you for the frankness, us voters need to know these little tidbits of information to form well rounded opinion of a candidate, not just what we read on their signs or commercial spots.
tucker
10-05-2007, 01:07 PM
President - Gamber
At-large - Manson, Slagle, Hersher
Ward 1 - Mang
Ward 3 - Walterhouse
Kamd50
10-05-2007, 01:19 PM
President - Gamber
At-large - Manson, Slagle, Hersher
Ward 1 - Mang
Ward 3 - Walterhouse
Reasons for supporting these candidates, please?
proud to be
10-05-2007, 01:33 PM
When Filhour was on the board, it was fun to see him and Frank square off.
Gee...... I wonder if he had an agenda at that time..........
tucker
10-05-2007, 01:55 PM
Gamber - good guy, good reputation, involved in many community organizaions over the years, easy to get along with, brought the Viet Nam wall to Stadium Park a few years ago, doing good job as current president
Manson - incumbent, sees the big picture, no agenda
Slagle - attorney, progessive
Hersher - smart young family man, serves on the planning commission (I think)
Mang - been there a long time and he's not Sarita Cunningham
Walterhouse - very respected man, former councilman, long-time resident of the ward, no agenda and he's not a diva
DAWGH8R
10-05-2007, 07:43 PM
Nice analogy Tucker. THANKS !!
Spize
10-05-2007, 10:35 PM
Gamber - good guy, good reputation, involved in many community organizaions over the years, easy to get along with, brought the Viet Nam wall to Stadium Park a few years ago, doing good job as current president
Manson - incumbent, sees the big picture, no agenda
Slagle - attorney, progessive
Hersher - smart young family man, serves on the planning commission (I think)
Mang - been there a long time and he's not Sarita Cunningham
Walterhouse - very respected man, former councilman, long-time resident of the ward, no agenda and he's not a diva
The only good thing you can say about Slagle is that he is a Lawyer?
I think it is more likely you are simply looking at the D next to his name as the real basis of your decision.
Sure you picked an R in there with Watlerhouse, but it is not secret that Catazaro-Perry is the black sheep of the Mayor Frank Massillon Democratic party
Although I do agree with you on Hersher, he is a breathe of fresh air for the Massillon Democratic Party.
Pres of council race is a no lose for the city of Massillon, both are good candidates.
Manson no agenda? You are partially right, he doesn't have his own agenda.
Who would I personally pick if I lived in Massillon.
Ward 1, Sarita Cunningham.
I like Mang, he is a good person and has been a good councilperson. However Massillon is starting to get a little stale, and needs some new blood on council. I am not one to say vote for change for the sake of change, but in Mang's case he is basically attending council meetings at this point. I have nothing but respect for him, but I think he has brought all he can to council and that ward needs some new ideas.
Ward 3. Took close for me to pick.
Good thing I don't live there, so I don't have to make a pick.
At large I will write up later, but at least you know I am gonna pick my Mom :P (and not Filhour)
Tiger54
10-08-2007, 10:03 AM
thank you for the frankness, us voters need to know these little tidbits of information to form well rounded opinion of a candidate, not just what we read on their signs or commercial spots.
In other words, we are supposed to cast a vote based on these innuendoes and slams against a nameless person?! I would certainly want the people to vote with more intelligence than that!
Kamd50
10-08-2007, 10:18 AM
In other words, we are supposed to cast a vote based on these innuendoes and slams against a nameless person?! I would certainly want the people to vote with more intelligence than that!
The Voice is hardly a nameless person. Ever heard of TSN?
arizona
10-10-2007, 07:10 AM
Poor Donnie Peters got whacked today in a letter to the editor about his call for police security at city council meetings. The writer calls for him to be voted out of office, but there is no Democratic running against him.
I heard there was a harsh interchange between Paul Manson and Kathy Cattazaro-Perry on Monday. Seems that as finance chairman she "forgot" to approve a request several weeks ago for funds to pay for odor-control chemicals at the sewer plant. (Is that an important thing?) The company that sells them to the city had to call her at home to get paid. She told the company that she did not know anything about it. Everyone at City Hall knows differently. Manson chairs the committee that oversees the sewer plant and says he wrote her a memo in September recommending that she approve the request.
The Voice
10-10-2007, 08:44 AM
54; do you have first hand information that we're not aware of ? please elaborate if you do. ARIZONA: Based on your input this morning, I see no MAJOR issues with either story.. Peter's has some good points; although I doubt that anything would actually be done.. and since we're getting into political agenda's here; Catazaro-Perry makes no more mistakes than any other council members and you know it. This is just positioning for Walterhouse. I will say though; that Catazaro-Perry is gonna get roughed up during this election.
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Spize
10-10-2007, 11:36 AM
Poor Donnie Peters got whacked today in a letter to the editor about his call for police security at city council meetings. The writer calls for him to be voted out of office, but there is no Democratic running against him.
I heard there was a harsh interchange between Paul Manson and Kathy Cattazaro-Perry on Monday. Seems that as finance chairman she "forgot" to approve a request several weeks ago for funds to pay for odor-control chemicals at the sewer plant. (Is that an important thing?) The company that sells them to the city had to call her at home to get paid. She told the company that she did not know anything about it. Everyone at City Hall knows differently. Manson chairs the committee that oversees the sewer plant and says he wrote her a memo in September recommending that she approve the request.
When I ran for trustee a couple of years ago here in Perry, one of the hot issues on the Massillon border was 27th st NE/Jackson Ave. In June of 05 there was a meeting at Perry Admin building between the Perry administrator, the Perry road Sup, and the engineer from Massillon. It was a discussion over the 3 possible projects for Jackson Ave. The one they picked was a 3 lane widening project, Massillon council approved it and then applied to the county for funding. Later once everything was pretty much set in stone the Inde finally runs a story about it. Once all the people on Jackson Ave we up in arms that the road was being widened, even though NO study showed that it should be and was a money wasting and land/home value hurting project, Cathy came out and said she had no idea the project was a widening project.
This is the one thing that has stuck in my crawl about Cathy. When I went out to my files and looked at the project papers I had picked up in July/August from the Perry admin office, her signature was on it on the Massillon side.
It always worried me that as a Ward councilperson that she has no real interest in her ward, but acts more as a At-Large councilperson.
On the flip side, she does bring up good conversation in council meetings and does an excellent job getting the details discussed on a project that she cares about.
Like I said before though, I have no opinion either way on the 3rd ward race as of yet, I like both candidates. I just wanted to point out to those on here that do nothing but drink the kool aide, that she ain't "Saint Massillon" by any means.
massillon catholic
10-10-2007, 12:16 PM
Poor Donnie Peters got whacked today in a letter to the editor about his call for police security at city council meetings. The writer calls for him to be voted out of office, but there is no Democratic running against him.
I heard there was a harsh interchange between Paul Manson and Kathy Cattazaro-Perry on Monday. Seems that as finance chairman she "forgot" to approve a request several weeks ago for funds to pay for odor-control chemicals at the sewer plant. (Is that an important thing?) The company that sells them to the city had to call her at home to get paid. She told the company that she did not know anything about it. Everyone at City Hall knows differently. Manson chairs the committee that oversees the sewer plant and says he wrote her a memo in September recommending that she approve the request.
I am always weary of someone who has two last-names:wtf:
Marie
10-10-2007, 02:52 PM
If I still lived in the 3rd ward, I wouldn't vote for either of them.
tucker
10-10-2007, 05:20 PM
Re Voice's response to Miss KC-P's latest foulup: I'd really have to disagree that other councilmen make errors as often as she does. But, when anyone else makes an error, as anyone will from time to time, they own up to it and go on, learning from the error. She seems to make the same errors now as a four-year veteran that she made as a newbie. Miss KC-P first angrily denies the error and then looks for someone else to blame for her own goof. It's a whining, childish response that adults do not appreciate.
Spize's example of a 27th Street flipflop is a good example of what some people are tired of. She either forgot what she agreed to or tried to suck up to angry constituents later when they disagreed with the plan she approved. He correctly points out that she is often distant and distracted from ward issues.
Voice started this thread to generate discussion - why is he now so defensive when a simple criticism is made about a legitimate issue? Whether someone is for or against a candidate has nothing to do with the truth of job performance. The criticisms here all seem directly related to her job performance and do not include any personal or derogatory remarks about her or her personal life. That's none of our business and is out of bounds in a political discussion. What she does or doesn't do in the position is certainly open for examination. If she'd do her job, no one would have the ammunition to criticize, would they?
The Voice
10-10-2007, 05:37 PM
I am not defending her any more than I would defend or challenge any other councilmember. Her work during council seems to be ok. I can't comment on her temperment during work sessions since I'm not there. I did say they she will get roughed up during the campaign. I CAN comment on her integrity outside of council. It is intact. Nonetheless; it is the work that she does as a member of council that counts. Nothing personal here. I will say though that I would like to see a CLEAN race between Frank, oops, I mean Dale and Catazaro-Perry
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CarlE
10-10-2007, 06:12 PM
I am always weary of someone who has two last-names:wtf:
Means her husband is a puss and can't control her and didn't insist she take his last name. She needs to be put in her place!! LOL.:bomb:
massillon catholic
10-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Means her husband is a puss and can't control her and didn't insist she take his last name. She needs to be put in her place!! LOL.:bomb:
That or she has multiple personalities. One day she is Catazaro and the next day she is Perry. However, I tend to think that your observation may be more accurate.
CarlE
10-10-2007, 06:54 PM
That or she has multiple personalities. One day she is Catazaro and the next day she is Perry. However, I tend to think that your observation may be more accurate.
Oh I'm right all right. Anytime you see that hyphen in the name I'm DEAD ON!!!
Obie Wan
10-10-2007, 07:05 PM
Means her husband is a puss and can't control her and didn't insist she take his last name. She needs to be put in her place!! LOL.:bomb:
If some woman wouldn't take my name, I'd be like "Hey! You get your b*tch ass back in the kitchen and make me some pie!"
The Voice
10-10-2007, 08:49 PM
not funny people..:ghostface:
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Spize
10-10-2007, 10:25 PM
not funny people..:ghostface:
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I always wanted to ask you this...
If the neighbor kid's frisbee lands in your yard... Do give it back, or do you keep it...?:jestera:
DragonTigerNemesis
10-10-2007, 10:45 PM
WOW! If this is what happens over a local council race, this site must ROCK before a presidential election.
Hillary - who solved the whole last name issue by just using one name a la Cher - against a Mormon.
ManOMan let the fun begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:obiefanfire:
DragonTigerNemesis
10-10-2007, 10:47 PM
I always wanted to ask you this...
If the neighbor kid's frisbee lands in your yard... Do give it back, or do you keep it...?:jestera:
BE CAREFUL!!!!
Sometimes he takes the ball-bustin on here all serious - like.
:oops2:
DragonTigerNemesis
10-10-2007, 10:48 PM
That or she has multiple personalities. One day she is Catazaro and the next day she is Perry. However, I tend to think that your observation may be more accurate.
Are you qualified to discuss personality disorders??????
Oh----wait a moment----I guess you are!
DragonTigerNemesis
10-10-2007, 10:51 PM
not funny people..:ghostface:
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By the way, that's sure a nice big avatar you have there Big Boy!
Is that overcompenstion-----you know, like the truck drivers' big belt buckle or the concealed weapons some guys have to carry to make up for their lack of a decent sized gun?
:dance:
Spize
10-10-2007, 11:08 PM
By the way, that's sure a nice big avatar you have there Big Boy!
Is that overcompenstion-----you know, like the truck drivers' big belt buckle or the concealed weapons some guys have to carry to make up for their lack of a decent sized gun?
:dance:
Do we really want to start psychoanalysing avatars now?
DragonTigerNemesis
10-10-2007, 11:19 PM
Do we really want to start psychoanalysing avatars now?
WHY NOT? It beats the hell out of continuing this inane discussion about a candidates qualifications based on name hyphenations.
Spize
10-11-2007, 12:27 AM
WHY NOT? It beats the hell out of continuing this inane discussion about a candidates qualifications based on name hyphenations.
perhaps.
xtiger
10-11-2007, 01:57 AM
I'm fortunate to have neighbors whom voice and discuss their
positions and opionions. I've recently discussed our options in terms of candidates, and the overwhelming favorite was Dale Walterhouse.
The Walterhouse name has been prevelant for decades!
Walterhouse for Councilman!
Does Perry mean Perry? lol
DAWGH8R
10-11-2007, 07:57 AM
I always wanted to ask you this...
If the neighbor kid's frisbee lands in your yard... Do give it back, or do you keep it...?:jestera:
Depends on if they have a cat , right TV ??? :poke:
The Voice
10-11-2007, 08:41 AM
Actually I would keep the frisbee and throw the cat over the fence. :pimp:
Nemisis..dude; you're on a roll today..good stuff! By the way, As far as Mr. avatar goes; I woke up one day, came online and BY GAWD THAR SHE WAS!!
just a sittin there..I've been lookin fer a belt buckle to match it fer some time now.. wouldn't matter though cuz my belly so dang big ya all wouldn' see it anyway.. I actually wanted my avatar to be a big cat sittin on a freshly waxed car hood .. M E O W :hug:
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Seeker
10-11-2007, 09:11 AM
Actually I would keep the frisbee and throw the cat over the fence. :pimp:
Nemisis..dude; you're on a roll today..good stuff! By the way, As far as Mr. avatar goes; I woke up one day, came online and BY GAWD THAR SHE WAS!!
just a sittin there..I've been lookin fer a belt buckle to match it fer some time now.. wouldn't matter though cuz my belly so dang big ya all wouldn' see it anyway.. I actually wanted my avatar to be a big cat sittin on a freshly waxed car hood .. M E O W :hug:
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Ask and ye shall recieve.
Anything for a friend!
I always try to accomodate special avatar requests.
The Voice
10-11-2007, 11:18 AM
Good one Chuck!.. I do hope that you will return to the original TSN avatar though, after all I am trying to overcompensate here. :rock:
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jobdone
10-12-2007, 04:47 PM
Wow!! The third ward council person does not deserve some of these comments and calling her husband a wuss is uncalled for.
Dale Walterhouse was begged to run for the third ward seat by the Mayor because of the support he gave to the administration in the past. Everyone in the Republican Party and most true Democrats are aware of this.
massillon catholic
10-12-2007, 05:17 PM
Wow!! The third ward council person does not deserve some of these comments and calling her husband a wuss is uncalled for.
If it walks like a duck, its a duck. What else would you call him?
CarlE
10-12-2007, 06:22 PM
Wow!! The third ward council person does not deserve some of these comments and calling her husband a wuss is uncalled for.
Dale Walterhouse was begged to run for the third ward seat by the Mayor because of the support he gave to the administration in the past. Everyone in the Republican Party and most true Democrats are aware of this.
LIGHTEN UP. It's a joke. And jobdone, if you don't stop I'll come up there, buy something, run for Mayor Frank's Special Assistant, win and make your life miserable until you can't stand it any more!! And then convince him to run for Mayor for the next 20 years so you'll NEVER get over it!!! Ha Ha. God, you people are so, so pitiful sometimes when you can't see the obvious humor in something. I don't even KNOW these people. Why would I be serious talking about them.
massillon catholic
10-12-2007, 07:07 PM
LIGHTEN UP. It's a joke. And jobdone, if you don't stop I'll come up there, buy something, run for Mayor Frank's Special Assistant, win and make your life miserable until you can't stand it any more!! And then convince him to run for Mayor for the next 20 years so you'll NEVER get over it!!! Ha Ha. God, you people are so, so pitiful sometimes when you can't see the obvious humor in something. I don't even KNOW these people. Why would I be serious talking about them.
Some people just dont get it!
arizona
11-03-2007, 09:09 PM
Just thought I'd revive this older thread about the council races. My choices haven't changed, although Spize is trying hard to make me reconsider my vote for his mom. Chill out, dude, will you?
My choices:
President - Gamber
At-large: Manson, Hersher, Guillian
Ward 1 - Mang
Ward 3 - Walterhouse
Mayor - I think Slater is penciled in as an Independent, but obviously Chicchinelli will win easily.
Slater apparently couldn't master the intricate step of providing 50 qualified names to the elections board, so he is not on the ballot after all. Mayor C is back for four more years once he, his wife, his mom and his aunt cast their ballots.
Dale Walterhouse always had the best interest of the city at heart, not the agenda of an outside influence, and he is not grandstanding to position himself for a run for some other position.
BTW - where is the criticism of the mayor for bringing another 500 jobs to the old Republic facility? On top of 750 going into the former McLain Grocery building. 1250 good solid jobs that will support families, buy cars and boats and groceries and clothing and beer and movies and a load of Loonie Larry breakfasts at Top of the Viaduct. Surely he can't have had anything to do with it, could he?
The Voice
11-03-2007, 09:46 PM
Give credit where credit is due. I tip my cap to you Frank.
my prediction of Tuesday's winners
Gamber
Walterhouse
Mang, ,, Cunningham .. Mang.. Cunningham.. Geez, I'm waffleing on that one.. sorry.. Don't know bout the rest of em..
see ya all at the poles..
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MTigers006
11-04-2007, 12:34 AM
I agree with you voice on credit where credit is due about Mayor Frank. Those 1250 Jobs bring in 1250 Familes which have or bound to have sons if you know what im getting at (wink, wink)
Seems that as finance chairman she "forgot" to approve a request several weeks ago for funds to pay for odor-control chemicals at the sewer plant. (Is that an important thing?) The company that sells them to the city had to call her at home to get paid. She told the company that she did not know anything about it. Everyone at City Hall knows differently. Manson chairs the committee that oversees the sewer plant and says he wrote her a memo in September recommending that she approve the request.
Finally the source of the stink is revealed. I bet she forgot the memo about the viduct also.
Spize
11-04-2007, 12:49 AM
although Spize is trying hard to make me reconsider my vote for his mom.
BTW - where is the criticism of the mayor for bringing another 500 jobs to the old Republic facility? On top of 750 going into the former McLain Grocery building. 1250 good solid jobs that will support families, buy cars and boats and groceries and clothing and beer and movies and a load of Loonie Larry breakfasts at Top of the Viaduct. Surely he can't have had anything to do with it, could he?
I assure you that is not my intent lol.
No criticism of the mayor right now at all, actually I applaud him. He has returned to what made him so successful early on in his tenure as mayor. He has dropped the political grandstanding and focused on the work. That isn't a knock in any way BTW, I am glad to see it because it can only mean good things for Massillon.
MTigers006
11-04-2007, 01:04 AM
Spize,
Your someone that I respect and also you work hard at everything you do. Your also the voice of reason other than CarlE. The way a person is reflect how one was brought up. So what im saying is your mom has to be a hard working individual who must believe in what is right and what is best for this community, So you and your mom can count on my support on November 6th, 2007.
This city is at a stand still in new commercial development and other areas besides the recent 500jobs comming to Massillon and someone needs to get the ball rolling again and get that dang bridge done that should not have been taken down anyways.
arizona
11-05-2007, 08:54 AM
Dale Walterhouse mailed a letter to Ward 3 residents pointing out Catazarro-Perry's dismal attendance record. She has missed 25 meetings in less than four years - far more than anyone else on city council. Earlier this year she arrogantly skipped a meeting because she scheduled a campaign fundraiser for the same night.
Spize
11-05-2007, 11:16 AM
Dale Walterhouse mailed a letter to Ward 3 residents pointing out Catazarro-Perry's dismal attendance record. She has missed 25 meetings in less than four years - far more than anyone else on city council. Earlier this year she arrogantly skipped a meeting because she scheduled a campaign fundraiser for the same night.
To be 100% honest with you I don't know why he needed to send that letter. It looked to me like he had an edge in that race already, or at very least was neck and neck with her. Why the need to go on attack? I am not saying if she missed that many meetings that it isn't bad (how many were for the baby though?), but I don't understand the negative campaign tactic. It just didn't seem needed. Having met Dale quite a few times it surprises me.
Do you think it affected anyones votes, and in which way?
arizona
11-05-2007, 12:29 PM
I can't see that pointing out an opponent's atendance record or voting record is in any way a negative attack. Those are easy markers in any public official's record. Voters elect people to do the job, and if their representative misses a lot of meetings, that is something to consider.
This was a final campaign piece, much the same as this weekend's flurry of newspaper or tv ads. I doubt it was sent to change anyone's mind who has already decided, but rather with the intent to make fence-sitters think hard about their choice tomorrow.
CarlE
11-05-2007, 12:34 PM
To be 100% honest with you I don't know why he needed to send that letter. It looked to me like he had an edge in that race already, or at very least was neck and neck with her. Why the need to go on attack? I am not saying if she missed that many meetings that it isn't bad (how many were for the baby though?), but I don't understand the negative campaign tactic. It just didn't seem needed. Having met Dale quite a few times it surprises me.
Do you think it affected anyones votes, and in which way?
I don't consider pointing out that somone missed 25 freaking meetings as a negative tactic. I consider it something that SHOULD be exposed to the public. The beauty of this is she now has the opportunity to respond on WHY she missed 25 meetings. THAT is the question that should be asked.
Spize
11-05-2007, 01:00 PM
I don't consider pointing out that somone missed 25 freaking meetings as a negative tactic. I consider it something that SHOULD be exposed to the public. The beauty of this is she now has the opportunity to respond on WHY she missed 25 meetings. THAT is the question that should be asked.
I can see your point.
Lakewood
11-05-2007, 04:08 PM
Dale Walterhouse mailed a letter to Ward 3 residents pointing out Catazarro-Perry's dismal attendance record. She has missed 25 meetings in less than four years - far more than anyone else on city council. Earlier this year she arrogantly skipped a meeting because she scheduled a campaign fundraiser for the same night.
Do you actually think she missed 25 council meetings. Please, I too received that letter and it read 25 meetings -what 25 meetings-where they council meetings, where they work sessions,where they meetings that didn't require her attendance, he never indicated anything but 25 meetings. Ohh, one other thing, if the contents of the letter was true he should have sent them out weeks ago to allow her to dig herself a hold while explaining it to her voters. It appears to me that the contents aren't true. It appears to me an act of desperations .
Obie Wan
11-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Number of Council meetings missed this year:
Catazaro-Perry: 2
Gamber: 1
Maier: 2
Mang: 2
McCune: 1
Peters: 1
Townshend: 3
2006:
Catazaro-Perry: 1
Ferrero: 1
Maier: 1
Mang: 1
McCune: 1
Townshend: 4
Spize
11-05-2007, 05:05 PM
Do you actually think she missed 25 council meetings. Please, I too received that letter and it read 25 meetings -what 25 meetings-where they council meetings, where they work sessions,where they meetings that didn't require her attendance, he never indicated anything but 25 meetings. Ohh, one other thing, if the contents of the letter was true he should have sent them out weeks ago to allow her to dig herself a hold while explaining it to her voters. It appears to me that the contents aren't true. It appears to me an act of desperations .
You would be right. They were not all council meetings.
If a council person missed 25 council meetings it would have been a lot bigger news than a last minute campaign letter.
Although I do think it would be interesting to see how they came up with those numbers and how other councilpeople would compare given the same criteria. I have not so I don't know, it could be a lot more and it could be par, I just don't know.
BTW, as far as council meetings go I would be remiss if I didn't point out this.. One of the people with the best records of attendance at council meetings of people running for council over the last 2+ years is not currently a council person. (my mom)(Pinkie Guillan)
Actually I personally think the substance of what they did when in attendance may outweigh their actual attendance numbers anyhow.
Just a thought.
Lakewood
11-05-2007, 06:11 PM
Number of Council meetings missed this year:
Catazaro-Perry: 2
Gamber: 1
Maier: 2
Mang: 2
McCune: 1
Peters: 1
Townshend: 3
2006:
Catazaro-Perry: 1
Ferrero: 1
Maier: 1
Mang: 1
McCune: 1
Townshend: 4
Do you know the difference between council meetings and work sessions?
Lakewood
11-05-2007, 06:13 PM
You would be right. They were not all council meetings.
If a council person missed 25 council meetings it would have been a lot bigger news than a last minute campaign letter.
Although I do think it would be interesting to see how they came up with those numbers and how other councilpeople would compare given the same criteria. I have not so I don't know, it could be a lot more and it could be par, I just don't know.
BTW, as far as council meetings go I would be remiss if I didn't point out this.. One of the people with the best records of attendance at council meetings of people running for council over the last 2+ years is not currently a council person. (my mom)(Pinkie Guillan)
Actually I personally think the substance of what they did when in attendance may outweigh their actual attendance numbers anyhow.
Just a thought.
I would agree she is very dedicated!!
Obie Wan
11-05-2007, 06:37 PM
Do you know the difference between council meetings and work sessions?
Umm, yeah. Did you not note that I specifically mentioned "Council meetings" and said nothing about work sessions?
However, her attendance record doesn't seem to be out of line with that of other members.
Lakewood
11-05-2007, 10:17 PM
Umm, yeah. Did you not note that I specifically mentioned "Council meetings" and said nothing about work sessions?
However, her attendance record doesn't seem to be out of line with that of other members.
You did my bad!!:tounge:
Spize
11-05-2007, 10:38 PM
For those interested in attendance...
As far as the at large race goes. This year the only at-large candidates to attend any council meetings were.
Manson
Guillan
Hersher
Filhour and Slagle were complete no-shows this year. (I don't know about last year)
BTW, I asked my mom about going to meetings, she absolutely plans on attending meetings regardless of the results of the election.
Well, time for me to go put up the election day signs, wait for results tomorrow night, then go get all of her signs down tomorrow night/wed morning. Have a good night, and remember... VOTE PINK!
Dale Walterhouse mailed a letter to Ward 3 residents pointing out Catazarro-Perry's dismal attendance record. She has missed 25 meetings in less than four years - far more than anyone else on city council. Earlier this year she arrogantly skipped a meeting because she scheduled a campaign fundraiser for the same night.
Her response to the allegations today was a hand delivered Voter Alert memo to the Ward 3 households that her opponent has resorted to “gutter politics in an attempt to smear Kathy Catazaro-Perry.” She goes on to say that “we can’t afford to be fooled. The voters of Massillon deserve better. Don’t be tricked by Dale Walterhouse and his gutter politics.” :scratchchin:
Obie Wan
11-05-2007, 11:35 PM
Her response to the allegations today was a hand delivered Voter Alert memo to the Ward 3 households that her opponent has resorted to “gutter politics in an attempt to smear Kathy Catazaro-Perry.” She goes on to say the “we can’t afford to be fooled. The voters of Massillon deserve better. Don’t be tricked by Dale Walterhouse and his gutter politics.” :scratchchin:
I don't think these are Walterhouse's politics. I think it's the Mayor's politics (and the Mayor's money) behind the anti-Catazaro-Perry campaign.
TigerFan2000
11-06-2007, 11:57 AM
I don't think these are Walterhouse's politics. I think it's the Mayor's politics (and the Mayor's money) behind the anti-Catazaro-Perry campaign.
I agree. Dale is not a career politician and would not think this up by himself (no offense intended). This has the Mayor's mark all over it. I'm not say it was right or wrong.....just standard politics. If the information was true and just spun a certain way, more power to the spinner...
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