mentor-St Ed's scrimmage

[LakeCountyTiger]

Yikes! I hope Ed's is down this year. Mentor spanked them pretty good. I'm not sure Ed's defense stopped Mentor once. They have a freshman RB that looks like a future stud, might start for them this year. The RB's as a whole aren't real big but look pretty skilled. Line looks a little smaller but quicker than last year... Wr's.... sheesh, they looked like they had about 15 of them that could play...all 4 QB's looked good, of course Tanski will be the guy, he looked like the big kid in the neighborhood playing against all the younger kids. He didn't make a mistake the whole time... Their defense however.. I dunno, they still look way behind the offense to me. Still looks like they will be in the 3-4 this year. I guess they have more LB's than lineman... looks like they have tons of both... Not sure how i feel about their DB's...They look like they're still trying to figure out who will be back there. But that offense is really fun to watch... sort of...I did hear ED's was missing a pair of starters.. not sure who though and if they would make a difference...

[longtimefirsttime]

Massillon's offense isn't too bad either. So might we expect a higher scoring game this year? I know that game will be a real test.

[LakeCountyTiger]

Yes, I think it would be a higher scoring game, but you can never tell....Tanski looks like he got a bit bigger and quicker so we will have to account for him this year...

[longtimefirsttime]

He has size and can beat you with his arm and his feet. That's what makes him so tough to defend.

[monte81]

He has size and can beat you with his arm and his feet. That's what makes him so tough to defend.

Not if our linebackers stay at home and bait him to throw the football. tanaski is an average passer with great feet but with an outside attacking defense and ILB that stay in the pursuit lanes he has nothing. A delay QB draw is the favorite play of Tanaski and if we stay put he has nowhere to run! Teams get undisciplined and want to shoot gaps and that is the wrong way to pressure running Qb's

[longtimefirsttime]

Against McKinley in the state semis he showed an excellent arm and was running all over the field (not just up the middle). Although I agree he was very successful on the QB draw last season against the Tigers.

[LakeCountyTiger]

The big thing with him, is he seems to always make the right decision and he's a bit stronger and faster then you would think by looking at him... I hope we shadow him this year and put some pressure on him like Iggy did last year...

[massillon catholic]

[QUOTE=monte81;65158]Not if our linebackers stay at home and bait him to throw the football.

I watched Mentor on three occassions last year and I thought that Tanski had more trouble when the LB's blitzed and he didn't have the time to decide whether to throw or run. It appeared that if he is able to sit back and make a decision, he is very good. If the decision is made for him, he is less effective. At least in the three games that I watched.

[Metacomet]

Interesting points, Massillon Catholic. I saw the St. Ignatius-Mentor game last year, and Ignatius continually blitzed both outside linebackers. The Cats had two guys pinching in on Tanski from opposite directions.

The tactic really threw Tanski off his game. He likes to move laterally, either to run or throw and he can do it if flushed out in either direction. But he doesn't like to step up in the pocket unless its a designed run. When Ignatius blitzed him from opposite sides, it left Tanski with nowhere to go. He tended to move backward and try to throw from deeper in the pocket. The extra steps that this took seemed to throw off the timing between Tanski and his receivers. The ball was getting to receivers a second or two late, and not in the right spot.

When McKinley played Mentor, the Pups blitzed one guy from the outside and made Tanski move one way or the other. It worked for a little while, because it hurried him. But as the game wore on, Tanski tended to keep the ball when flushed from the pocket and he picked up some big yardage. McK's secondary had to be cognizant of the run and they started giving Mentor's receivers more cushion. By the fourth quarter, the same Card wideouts who were tightly covered in the first half, were now wide open. And Tanski had a field day in the fourth quarter.

[monte81]

[QUOTE=monte81;65158]Not if our linebackers stay at home and bait him to throw the football.

I watched Mentor on three occassions last year and I thought that Tanski had more trouble when the LB's blitzed and he didn't have the time to decide whether to throw or run. It appeared that if he is able to sit back and make a decision, he is very good. If the decision is made for him, he is less effective. At least in the three games that I watched.


The OLB's should be relentless with the pass rush when playing against tTanaski but the inside linebackers have to stay in the lanes and not over pursue. If you keep him in the pocket with our Db's we should be fine and he cannot hurt us as much with his feet. He likes the delay run which if the ILB stay home he has no lanes, its when you rush from the inside and miss is when he hurts you the most.

[LakeCountyTiger]

Gawd I love it when you talk like that... ha ha ha...But you're right, he is really clever like that, he waits for the over pursuit and is just qhick enough and has enough wiggle to hurt you. But if anyone saw that Iggy game last year, when they attacked him from all over on blitzes they really rattled him...