Looking for results of Massillon-Perry Scrimmage

[mmauthor]

Anybody out there who can tell us how the Tigers looked tonight?

[massillon catholic]

Anybody out there who can tell us how the Tigers looked tonight?


Willoughby looked good at QB. D had trouble stopping the run, but we were in base set and they ran wing-t. Torrence had a long run and couple of nice short runs, but had three fumbles. I wouldn't be concerned about it. Probably jitters. He's the real deal, no doubt. Schott looked good with FG's, Clark looked good at punting. TO's were a killer that needs to be addressed. Also, had several motion penalties when kicking extra points. Easily correctable.

[Tigerfan1979]

Was it me or was Torrence not in on defense?:huh:

[Spize]

IMHO Massillon looked good, Perry looked REALLY good.

The tigers really need to work on some fundamentals though, talent wise we were the field. However, we gave up the ball way too many times... DT, coughed it up twice.

We have enough raw talent to be completely unstoppable on offense, although our D looked suspect... That is to be expected in the first scrimmage of the year though, D takes more time to develope than O.

Funny thing is myself and the person in front of me suspected that the Perry coaching staff game planned the scrimmage.


A couple of notes...

G. Jackson is even faster than I remember, D. Torrence is very hard to tackle, get him some daylight and it is game over... The O-Line needs a LOT of work. Clark looked like he was ahead of the others at QB, but it is still close. Schott is amazing. Clark can punt the hell out of the ball, but needs some hang time to go with his distance so the punt team can get down field. The D needs more tackling and less hitting. We still let the QB run up the middle 10-20 yards without touching him too, should probably work on that too.

[Spize]

Was it me or was Torrence not in on defense?:huh:

He was not, and that needs to be fixed.

[massillon catholic]

[QUOTE=Spize;64525]IMHO Massillon looked good, Perry looked REALLY good.
Clark looked like he was ahead of the others at QB, but it is still close.



Maybe I had the #'s backwards, but I thought Clark was 11 and Willoughby 12. In any event #12 has the edge in my book. Threw very nices passes to Jackson were ran nice routes. Perry did look very good.

[Spize]

BTW, Yoder is an absolute monster when given the football.

P.S. Willoughby looked good when plays went well, but when the play wasn't there and he had to make quick decisions, let's just say he needs to work on it. If he doesn't improve his decision making, he won't be the starter IMHO.

[massillon catholic]

He was not, and that needs to be fixed.


He played defense ILB, didn't start there, though.

[massillon catholic]

Yoder and Torrence should never leave the field, PERIOD! Did you see him level the Perry tackler. Perry also, had a nice crushing hit on one of our defenders.

[Spize]

IMHO Massillon looked good, Perry looked REALLY good.
Clark looked like he was ahead of the others at QB, but it is still close.



Maybe I had the #'s backwards, but I thought Clark was 11 and Willoughby 12. In any event #12 has the edge in my book. Threw very nices passes to Jackson were ran nice routes. Perry did look very good.

I was more worried about his decision making when the primary wasn't there... I was also a little concerned about receivers having to stop and wait for the ball when they were open. He looks very good.

It was a little confusing trying to keep track of who was in at QB, if I am correct, Clark is a very good running QB.

Was it willoughby or Clark that threw the INT?

[Spize]

Yoder and Torrence should never leave the field, PERIOD! Did you see him level the Perry tackler. Perry also, had a nice crushing hit on one of our defenders.

Those 2 hits were great! I think Yoder was so surprised about how flat he knocked the Perry defender that he forgot to stay inbounds, did you hear that hit?

[massillon catholic]

I thought it was a fumble after the receiver caught it, but I had a bad angle. It appeared that they rotated QB's every play. Tough to get into a rythm.

[obie0130]

plenty to clean up for the tigers after tonight. way too many TO's. the defense was on the field all night, so it seemed. poor tackling and run D. we did show plenty of big-play capability on offense. i know they will work on the problem areas.

[mike_da_man13]

in a real game perry beats the tar out of us o-line wasnt up to snuff. rb's fumbled way to many times. btw yoder is playing out of position he should play both ways but on the line both ways

[mmauthor]

Were ther any scores in the scrimmage?

[mike_da_man13]

Were ther any scores in the scrimmage?

yes 2passing tds and a nice effort durring the goal line series. oh yeah a 70yd run

perry looked very impressive scored once durring downs and scorred on an awesome screen play. it should be noted though even though we outscored perry they were in control every time and i believe would have scored were they allowed more plays

[massillonmaroon]

I thought the Tigers need work - mainly on D and O-line, but they need some time to gel together as a team - several new players - several new starters. Need some chemistry to develop through the next scrimmage and opener, but they have the athletes to come around quickly.

It was nice to see DT come back from the fumbles and break off the nice run. O-line really needs to come together quickly.

Go Tigers!

[massillon catholic]

Did Reggie Comeaux(?) play tonight? I also think Yoder needs to be on the O-Line. He is a monster. At least put him at TE.

[Spize]

They were not the best Massillon team I have ever seen in a scrimmage, but I am not worried about the season. We looked better than we did last year against Whitmer.

[massillon catholic]

Torrence could break the all-time single game rushing record with his ability to break loose and make the big run. He is tougher than I remember from last year.

[Tiger Flame]

The Tigers scored 3 TD. and Perry scored 1TD. The Tigers need some work on their lines but that was to be expected as we are looking for who the starters will be and Perry was the more experenced team on the field. Perry could not handle our wide receivers as Jackson scored twice and others got open .We did fumble 4 times but Massillon was the better team on the field and had it been a regular game,the Tigers would have won. We looked at more players when the first units were on the field and still contolled the scrimage. GO TIGERS

[tiger6609]

why is everyone hatein on the Oline from what i recall there was like 1 or 2 sacks because im part of the Oline were better then what everyone thinks

[massillon catholic]

why is everyone hatein on the Oline from what i recall there was like 1 or 2 sacks because im part of the Oline were better then what everyone thinks


I don't think it is because pass blocking, the passing routes were generally short except for the long one to Jackson. However, there weren't many holes for the RB's. I will say that the O-Line looked better than last year. I also think two potential starters may have been out.

[TigerDL71]

The O line does look better then last year. However, I did not see Perry really blitzing, just seen them line up in base defense a lot. We really couldn't stop the run tonight and that worries me. We showed a lot of big play capablities tonight but we could not sustain a drive at all. We can't rely on the homerun all the time to score. We will have to see what changes are made between now and the Fremont scrimmage.

[massillon catholic]

The O line does look better then last year. However, I did not see Perry really blitzing, just seen them line up in base defense a lot. We really couldn't stop the run tonight and that worries me. We showed a lot of big play capablities tonight but we could not sustain a drive at all. We can't rely on the homerun all the time to score. We will have to see what changes are made between now and the Fremont scrimmage.

I agree with you. But, our inability to have a long drive was directly related to the, at least four fumbles., which is very correctable, IMO. I also, think the mis-direction that Perry ran and our not playing a defense to stop the wing -t gave the impression that our Defense is not as good as it really is. If this were a regular game, we would have been playing the LB's and corners much differantly. I also don't think we blitzed either.

[Spize]

I will say the Oline is improved from last year at this time, which is a great thing, however I think Perry was controlling the line when we were on O more than we should expect from Perry. Maybe it is that their Dline is that much better than I thought, but there were a couple players that were getting pushed, but a couple the held their own just fine. I think as the practices progress and the line learns what the guy next to him is doing, we will see some improvements.

I will say that the QB did have time to throw the ball, and both sacks should have not been for a loss because the QB had time to get rid of the ball.

[massillon catholic]

Did we run any out of the shotgun? I noticed that Perry did that often.

[tiger#22]

Yoder and Torrence should never leave the field, PERIOD! Did you see him level the Perry tackler. Perry also, had a nice crushing hit on one of our defenders.

That is a definite, although they need to get Torrence a breather on D but he should never leave the field on O. When Yoder is at FB and they throw him the dump off I cant wait to count the # of defenders he is going to level this year.
I thought the Tigers actually looked a little flat and uninspired but it is the first scrimmage and I would rather them look bad then look like they should be given the title, which is what I think happened last year in the pre-season.
I would hope that Georgio is thrown to at least 10 times a game he is a game breaker at WR.
All of the RB's need to hold onto the ball, this week they all should walk around with a ball in their hands 24/7.
The O line still needs alot of work although Comeaux wasnt dressed which should help alot.
Again this is the first scrimmage so I am glad there are ALOT of things to work on, lets see how they look next Friday in Fremont.
:TIG2:

[massillon catholic]

Let's don't forget, Perry is not a bad team. They are very good at what they do. I fully expect them to go 10-0 or 9-1. We'll see them again in the playoffs. I think its a bonus for our inexperienced guys to play a good team like Perry than to play some sap.

[tiger#22]

Did we run any out of the shotgun? I noticed that Perry did that often.

I dont remember seeing them in the shotgun 1 time tonight.
IMO Clark will be the starter because he makes better decisions and can get away from the rush, but it is very very close. I would bet they both will play alot early in the season unless 1 of them really takes over in the next couple weeks.

[tiger#22]

Let's don't forget, Perry is not a bad team. They are very good at what they do. I fully expect them to go 10-0 or 9-1. We'll see them again in the playoffs. I think its a bonus for our inexperienced guys to play a good team like Perry than to play some sap.

I wasnt very impressed with Perry, they are a carbon copy of last year, cant throw the ball although the QB can elude the rush and Magnacca is pretty much the only weapon they have on O. They couldnt stop the passing game either.

[npaflas]

Where were the other runningbacks JT and KH.

[TIGER27]

Here were my thoughts before talking the scrimage over with others and reading what you all had to say.

First Addressing the QB situation-I came into this thinking it was Clark's job to lose and I'll admit I was a huge Clark fan but Wiloughby really impressed me with his two touchdowns though a lot of it may have been Georgio Jackson being a freak. Partridge was down right unstopable on the JV level he is the next big thing in Massillon take it to the bank.

Running Backs- Devoe looked unstoppable when he held onto the ball. He broke the huge run but also showcased his ablilty to not be tackled and break ankles in the open field. K.J Herring looked good becides his fumble he has all the potential to be a DI back if he works on his ball handleing skills, it's early though. I would like to see Turner get some carries as well along with Yoder but it's still early.

WR- G-jack G-jack G-jack oh my did he look good. He looked like a blue chipper tonight as well as often last seaons I expect very big things from him this year. Turner didn't get much action but I expect big things.

O-line didn't overly impress me but Reggie who I believe the best of our linemen didn't play so hopefully his return will strenghen the line play.

D-Line Yoder is a tank all over the field flat out.

LB'S I would have liked to see more of Devoe but hey its the first scrimage Dorrie Irvin is in for another big year.

DB's Massey and Turner both looked great Hildreth was hitting well and Kenny Pettis exceded all my expectations for him tonight. I'm really looking for Jeff Combs to step up and be a 5th db he's got the makings of a great one.

Questions

The roster said there's a Studer who wears 55 but I didn't see him any info?
I see we have to Relfords on the team that would be awesome if they ended up like Billy on the field anyway.

[TigerLily]

I did not make it there tonight, and appreciate all the info.

Just wondering if the new turf caused any problems, since there are
things that are not right. I know that the band kids are getting some kind of pellets in the shoes when practicing.

[Perry74]

From my perspective as a Perry fan I thought Massillon's offense looked pretty good despite the fumbles. Torrence and Yoder were VERY impressive players. I also like the QB that started, sorry I don't remember his number. I like Massillon's short passing game and when the DB's get nosy they can throw the out and up.
Not an excuse, but Perry's starting corner and OLB did not play due to injury. They should be back against Ursuline next Friday. Also on offense one of our starting RB's did not play as he's nursing a nagging injury, but will be fine. His name is Rob Dugan. Dugan is only a half step slower than Magnacca and is 5-11, 180.
Devoe Torrence's long run was a beauty. I said to my son, when he got into the secondary....see ya'. We have some things to work on on the interior defensive line and in the secondary. Even with a couple of backups in there, they shouldn't get burnt deep. Two nice passes and catches on the Tigers part.
I thought the Panthers offense did pretty well. Vick and Hyde are both good leaders, but I think Hyde (#6) adds another dimension with his running ability.
With Dugan out, Jeff Torrence (#21) and Tyler Schelappi (28) did a good job filling in for him.
Magnacca's reverse field run on the 4th and goal from the 24 was also another beauty.
All in all I'm sure both coaches learned plenty and once they get to break down video they will learn even more.
I don't hold scrimmages as the end all be all, but it's good to have the kids hitting someone else for a change. It gives the coaches a chance to use some kids that they have some questions about. Obviously neither team is to deep into the playbook.
It looked like no one got hurt on either team and that's a good thing. I think you guys will have an exciting offense. Coach Stacy was concerned about his defensive line and it may take them a little longer to jell, but knowing Stacy he'll play some guys both ways if he has to.
Best of luck this season to the Tigers and the Tiger Nation. It's a great time of year!!

[MRR55]

its early but i just cant get over that justin turner touched the ball ONE TIME!!! why isnt he getting any carries? i understand we have 2 other nice backs but get him the ball somehow!

[TigerBob75]

After watching the scrimmage, I think that the Tiger D should do a lot of endurance drills. As fast as that O is capable of scoring they might be on the field a long time. Need to get Turner and Herring in the backfield also to help keep the D from keying on one. I think that the D needs to just slow down a step. Seems like they over ran a few times. If Perry's passing game was on they could become a dangerous team. As hard as these two teams scrimmaged each other, lets get them on the schedule. I just want to say good luck to both teams. Maybe they'll meet in the playoffs-again.:gotigers:

[OldSchoolObie]

I guess Torrence's 60+ yard run was a fluke. And of course the touchdown passes were provided by QB's under pressure.


The funny part is 2 of the starters didn't even play in the scrimmage!!!! So lets see what happens when those two are in! The "Lineman Haters" will cease to exist.


You guys are pathetic, the pessimism begins already.

[oldtimer]

First scrimmage, lots of new faces, new positions, new defensive set, overall, just what you look for in a first scrimmage. Several plusses, DT is lightning in a bottle, Yoder has the potential to give a defender the rest of the night off, Jackson can stretch the D, opening spaces for the rb's. The D seemed to be decent tacklers (remember last year, espescially early),kicking game seems solid, maybe impressive. The minuses, fumbles(Jesus!), penalties (not awful, but...), inexperience at the cube, (will SOMEONE please stand out!!!!). As has been pointed out, the line looked better than last year, but they still need LOTS & LOTS of improvement if this team is to reach its potential. (you can't just judge the o-line on sacks, they also have to open holes for the RB's, "the guys that HOLD ONTO THE BALL"). Lots of potential, LOTS of fine-tuning! GO TIGERS! BEAT MIDDLETOWN!!!!!!!

[JStuder 55]

Questions

The roster said there's a Studer who wears 55 but I didn't see him any info?


Yeah Studer is a upcoming sophmore, and at the lift a thon pulled both his hamstrings doing a dead lift, he should be practicing in a week and be fighting to get that 1st year Letter. Big things in Future

[RRanger]

why is everyone hatein on the Oline from what i recall there was like 1 or 2 sacks because im part of the Oline were better then what everyone thinks

I agree with you, the line's will be ok see you at practice i'am there everyday GO TIGER'S

[PainlessPaulus]

If I was McKinley, I would be concerned about all three Massillon teams they will play this year...

doug

[OldSchoolObie]

:iagree:

[Fats]

Just a note, saw some Solon people doing a little scouting on us.

[89tiger]

:mad: Can anyone tell me WHY JUSTIN TURNER IS NOT GETTING TO RUN THE BALL?!!? I mean, COME ON!! J.T. is a D1 RunningBack also! He's been awsome the last past 4 years at RB. Now all they want to do is line him up at WR?? WHY!! Use the kid where he's good at! RUNNINGBACK!!! :mad:

[OldSchoolObie]

As well as Middletown. :tounge:


I found out last night that among our first team varsity offense there was only one 12 game returning starter on the field last night for the first series. He was up front. :wink:

[OldSchoolObie]

:mad: Can anyone tell me WHY JUSTIN TURNER IS NOT GETTING TO RUN THE BALL?!!? I mean, COME ON!! J.T. is a D1 RunningBack also! He's been awsome the last past 4 years at RB. Now all they want to do is line him up at WR?? WHY!! Use the kid where he's good at! RUNNINGBACK!!! :mad:



Lets see. He's 6'4-6'5ish. Lighting speed. And we already have 3 D1 recruits in the backfield, one already commited to OSU. Should we just let him stand on the sideline?? Don't get your panties in a bunch, he'll be back at running back his senior year. Why waste talent when it can be used elsewhere on the field?

[Obie Wan]

:mad: Can anyone tell me WHY JUSTIN TURNER IS NOT GETTING TO RUN THE BALL?!!? I mean, COME ON!! J.T. is a D1 RunningBack also! He's been awsome the last past 4 years at RB. Now all they want to do is line him up at WR?? WHY!! Use the kid where he's good at! RUNNINGBACK!!! :mad:
Slow down, Skippy. It's only a scrimmage.

[89tiger]

OldSchoolObie...I can understand spreading him out to WR! i just cant understand WHY no carries?? Bottomline is Massillons RB's are K.J., D.T., and JUSTIN TURNER!! 3 HEADED MONSTER!! NOT 2 HEADED!! Play the young man where he's been at the last past 4 years!! BOTTOMLINE!! :mad:

[89tiger]

Anyone who has seen Justin play knows he is a HELL of a RunningBack!! There were rumores back in the spring about him transfering to Mckinley! I for one, would never want to see that happen! YES, he will be a good WR BUT Justin is a RunningBack! One of the best RB's to come thru Massillon! All i,m saying is; i hope that Massillon doesnt mess up his future at RB! In all Honesty, i think J.T. is a better RB then K.J.! Thats just RealTalk!

[Obie Wan]

Dude, let me explain to you how a scrimmage works. The primary purpose is player evaluation. As such, you will see play calls and personnel assignments that are designed to get a feel for how the kids perform in specific situations. As such, much of what you see in a scrimmage is not indicative of what you will see in a real game. You may have noticed rotating QB's. Do you think you'll see that in a game? In the same light, it may have been deemed to be more beneficial to get Turner some experience in his new position rather than rotating him in at a more familiar position.

I have no idea how many (or how few) carries Turner will get in the regular season, but I do know that rushing to judgment based on what you just saw in a scrimmage is idiotic.

[obie 66]

We were a little ragged. For a first scimmage, we looked ok. We never had a full team of 1's on the field either on offense or defense. We were mixing and matching all evening. Alternated QB's almost every play. Our kids are not affraid of contact! We played base defensive sets, (very vanilla). Saw enough not to be overly concerned. If we had our final 1's out there and gameplanned, it would have been a lot different. Saw some great individual plays. Our fans need to get off Torrence. He showed me he is the real deal and probably was trtying too hard. The stuff that was being shouted at him was not fair and a horrible way to welcome him to Tigertown. The kids have accepted him, why not the adults. We won and I belive we have a chance to be pretty special! :sunny:

Perry will be a load in the Fed.

[Kamd50]

Sometimes the adults behave much more poorly when it comes to sports than the kids do:notlistening:

[Dr Strangemind]

sometimes? lol

[Kenny M.]

It's very sad to hear nasty comments being yelled at any Tiger -- especially a Tiger who chose to play here! I hope Mr. Torrence does not take those negative comments to heart and realizes that real Tiger fans support him -- and the rest of our team - 100%.

[Kamd50]

I agree; and I can only hope that any other person that was within ear shot of those whom were so rude would have the guts to tell those classless fans to shut their big fat traps and stop embarrassing Massillon.

[massillon catholic]

I agree; and I can only hope that any other person that was within ear shot of those whom were so rude would have the guts to tell those classless fans to shut their big fat traps and stop embarrassing Massillon.


Maybe a meeting with Yoder would be in order for those clowns!

[Kenny M.]

I agree -- and if you don't feel comfortable confronting someone in the stands (during the game), please look for a monitor and point out the offending person so that person can get a warning and then be ejected if the offensive language continues.

[massillon catholic]

I agree -- and if you don't feel comfortable confronting someone in the stands (during the game), please look for a monitor and point out the offending person so that person can get a warning and then be ejected if the offensive language continues.

Not only it is derogatory to the players, but there were many children at the scrimmage, as well. Normally, a visit to one of the officers will get the clowns ejected.

[MRR55]

other than the fumbles, he showed some flashes of being unstoppable!

[Kamd50]

Then that should be up to his teammates. It is NEVER ok for a team's own fans, or opposition for that matter, to yell at and call highschool kids names, etc. It is unacceptable, bad sportsmanship and a bad example:doh:

[massillon catholic]

I didn't see Herring playing any LB. Was he in there or did I miss it?

[austinsm11]

Wow...only one scrimmage in and it sounds like we are off to a great start with yelling at players, questioning coaching, complaining about players, etc.

This worries me what the rest of the season will be like.

[massillon catholic]

Wow...only one scrimmage in and it sounds like we are off to a great start with yelling at players, questioning coaching, complaining about players, etc.

This worries me what the rest of the season will be like.

I just asked if he played LB. I wasn't questioning anyone!

[The Voice]

The problem is not on the field, those problems can be corrected; THE PROBLEM IS HERE ! it's time to shut your mouths and support what we're supposed to be doing here..(This message is intended for those who deserve it!)

Some of you people really disgust me, you sound like the main characters in a f--kin soap opera; and you do it at the expense of the kids! As far as ass--les
yelling out crap at the field; THAT needs to stop NOW!

tv:obiefanfire:

[austinsm11]

I just asked if he played LB. I wasn't questioning anyone!

That wasn't directed towards you. It was to people throwing a fit because Turner didn't get one carry or DT didn't start at mlb or people yelling at DT , etc., etc.,etc.

[austinsm11]

I thinking the hot weather is affecting some people.

[massillon catholic]

That wasn't directed towards you. It was to people throwing a fit because Turner didn't get one carry or DT didn't start at mlb or people yelling at DT , etc., etc.,etc.

Gotcha. I suspect the people yelling at DT will clam up when he has a 1000 yards after 5 games.:tig:

[tiger#22]

Only in Massillon, although as on this topic that isnt always a good thing.:wall:

[JStuder 55]

the team is fine, noones worried about any of them problems.

[ChronicTiger]

Let's don't forget, Perry is not a bad team. They are very good at what they do. I fully expect them to go 10-0 or 9-1. We'll see them again in the playoffs. I think its a bonus for our inexperienced guys to play a good team like Perry than to play some sap.

I agree. Also, give our staff a week to plan against the
wing-p and I think we would be ok.....

[Perry74]

A good point was made in an earlier post. Both coaches were looking at certain players. For Perry I saw Vick at FB and Hyde at QB. I don't know how often that will happen, but that was different. Massillon rotated many players and Perry had about 8 players of offense and defense that were rotating in and out. With neither team scouting each other, it's tough on both teams defenses in certain situations.
Plus I don't think Coach Stacy or Coach Miller are going to show their first couple of regular season opponents to much in a scrimmage.
I think both teams will have very good seasons.

[proud to be]

The stuff that was being shouted at him was not fair and a horrible way to welcome him to Tigertown. The kids have accepted him, why not the adults. .


This is ridiculous. I must admit, I have not been a proponent of senior transfers, and have been kind of aggravated about the kids that come in not having the right attitude.... BUT....

I got to spend a little time with one of the transfers parents this last week at practice, and got a little insight about how they felt about being here.

What I learned this week was that these kids that have come here, for the most part, are thrilled to be here, and feel a tremendous amount of pride to wear the orange and black. While I still don't like the idea of a senior transfer, if the kid comes in here and embraces the tradition, we have no choice but to embrace him.

He has a great responsibility to live up to our tradition, and we have a great responsibilty to support him. It goes both ways.
It's not always easy to change your stripes.

The least we can do is make the transition a little easier.

:gotigers:

[OldSchoolObie]

Anyone who has seen Justin play knows he is a HELL of a RunningBack!! There were rumores back in the spring about him transfering to Mckinley! I for one, would never want to see that happen! YES, he will be a good WR BUT Justin is a RunningBack! One of the best RB's to come thru Massillon! All i,m saying is; i hope that Massillon doesnt mess up his future at RB! In all Honesty, i think J.T. is a better RB then K.J.! Thats just RealTalk!


If he wants to transfer to McKinley because of lack of RB time, let him. You should want to be a team player and want to help the team win in any way shape or form. If it's at WR then it's at WR. DT and KJ have more experience, hands down, and I'd give them the nod of JY, not saying he isn't a remarkable athlete and one of the best to come through. And I wouldn't classify JT as a RB only. If I'm not mistaken wasn't there someone ohh by the name of Brian Gamble who played multiple positions, including WR? and I only think that helped his cause, and he is on his way to a Big Ten scholarship. You just don't know football I suppose. THATS REAL TALK.

[Tiger paw]

Let's don't forget, Perry is not a bad team. They are very good at what they do. I fully expect them to go 10-0 or 9-1. We'll see them again in the playoffs. I think its a bonus for our inexperienced guys to play a good team like Perry than to play some sap.

Is Perry good enough to beat the puppies?:thanx:

[orangeblood]

I cannot believe some of the stuff I see on this thread. Support these kids UNCONDITIONALLY. They are your Tigers. You have a McKinley person lurking here as I type this. Do not give them anything they can use, ever.

[monte81]

Please-Please-Please stop acting like 5 year olds about a generic scrimmage that both teams played real vanila because we will meet again in the playoffs and are evaluating players. Stacy is no dummy and knows that teams are watching for tendencies and rotations. JT is a stud and will be fine--he will get his share of carries, DO NOT THINK DT is not starting linebacker but will need spells during the games and this scrimmage gave Rose, Checca, and Kovacs time to give backups much needed reps at the position(s).

Our team is fine and will be a load to deal with all season! I know Perry is like Damn they were generic and still have all kinds of big play ability!!

GO TIGERS----- BRING IT HOME IN 2007!! See you guys at Fawcett on Dec. 1--that will be a great B-day present for me!

[monte81]

If he wants to transfer to McKinley because of lack of RB time, let him. You should want to be a team player and want to help the team win in any way shape or form. If it's at WR then it's at WR. DT and KJ have more experience, hands down, and I'd give them the nod of JY, not saying he isn't a remarkable athlete and one of the best to come through. And I wouldn't classify JT as a RB only. If I'm not mistaken wasn't there someone ohh by the name of Brian Gamble who played multiple positions, including WR? and I only think that helped his cause, and he is on his way to a Big Ten scholarship. You just don't know football I suppose. THATS REAL TALK.

JT never thought about going to McKinley this Spring and I do not agree that we just push off our kids because of rumors being posted on this website. Jt is a good kid and NEVER displays attitude about nothing--already has 2 schoolie offers for UT and Ball State for DB and is not concerned about playing time at any position. I talked to him right before 2adays and he was ready to WIN not complain about anything. He is unselfish but naturally wants to show what he can do as well.

Who's going to worry about the kids after the Massillon experience is over? You, I, who??? All most posters care about on this site is Tiger victories and could care less what happens after HS but quickly point out all the mistakes our kids may make!! Support the team, individuals, and staff to have the best possible season our tigers can put together and after that WE need to make sure the staff and community are concerned where these kids go to college.

[ChronicTiger]

JT never thought about going to McKinley this Spring and I do not agree that we just push off our kids because of rumors being posted on this website. Jt is a good kid and NEVER displays attitude about nothing--already has 2 schoolie offers for UT and Ball State for DB and is not concerned about playing time at any position. I talked to him right before 2adays and he was ready to WIN not complain about anything. He is unselfish but naturally wants to show what he can do as well.

Who's going to worry about the kids after the Massillon experience is over? You, I, who??? All most posters care about on this site is Tiger victories and could care less what happens after HS but quickly point out all the mistakes our kids may make!! Support the team, individuals, and staff to have the best possible season our tigers can put together and after that WE need to make sure the staff and community are concerned where these kids go to college.

:trophy:

[xtiger]

Is Perry good enough to beat the puppies?:thanx:

Yep!

[Spize]

I agree. Also, give our staff a week to plan against the
wing-p and I think we would be ok.....

Bingo. As much as the Wing-t is able to be beaten with preparation, I am quite sure the coaching staff didn't gameplan for Perry for a scrimmage. It is about seeing execution in game type situations against an unfamiliar team on the other side fo the ball. To see how the players are executing at this stage in training camp, and to narrow down the starters for positions that are still open. Also it gives you an idea your players will react when given gameplay that they don't know is coming against different players that will react differently than the player they are used to lining up against in practice. So basically it is a practice on how to play against other teams before you have to do it for real.

[Spize]

Is Perry good enough to beat the puppies?:thanx:

Absolutely.

[Red50Go]

Monte, thanks for being the voice of reason. Even your bro had to wait his turn to be "the man." And all was was an all-time great.

The lines will take some time to gel. Secondary is pretty set. And we have playmakers galore. So whats the problem? Stacy said from the get go his goal is to spread the ball. Not because of 1 great guy, because of about 7-8 great guys. You have Jackson, Massey, & Turner to throw to. You have Torrence, Herring, Thornton, and Turner to hand to. A QB who can run and one who can pass. Then you have a TE who just bowls people over. I mean, what do you do? All I know is they are GOOD problems to have.

[TIGER27]

Questions

The roster said there's a Studer who wears 55 but I didn't see him any info?


Yeah Studer is a upcoming sophmore, and at the lift a thon pulled both his hamstrings doing a dead lift, he should be practicing in a week and be fighting to get that 1st year Letter along with ILB partner Spencer Leno #30

THAT is freaking amazing to hear. I love to see players from the big Massillon familes like the Ashcrafts Studers Spencers Danzy's just to name a few.

[TIGER27]

You people are crazy Turner never left the field once on defense he didn't get as many caries because he is learning a new position he'll be just like a taller version of BG so stop freaking out. Let's talk about the positions like Leno's emergence, Robert Partridge who btw is the next big thing in Massillon, G-Jack who looks like the best Tiger WR since Devin Jordan if not better. Yoder is going to be a mouse we dont need to sit and complain about a freaking scrimage if you ask me if we played Perry tonight we could make the score me 21-0 or 55-0 if we wanted to.

[LakeCountyTiger]

THAT is freaking amazing to hear. I love to see players from the big Massillon familes like the Ashcrafts Studers Spencers Danzy's just to name a few.

Can't forget the McGuire's

[Seeker]

I cannot believe some of the stuff I see on this thread. Support these kids UNCONDITIONALLY. They are your Tigers. You have a McKinley person lurking here as I type this. Do not give them anything they can use, ever.

Thank you orangeblood.

Many of you are very knowledgeable when it comes to high school football, and we usually benefit from your comments.

However...if this thread is any example of what we can expect from you during the upcoming season, there are a few good posters that will lose their privilege to do so on this forum.

Hopefully everyone will take a deep breath and do a little introspection.

We will be taking firm control over these discussions as we enter into the season.

It is your choice whether or not you will keep your posting privileges.

Thank you for supporting the team and coaches in 2007.

:vconst:

[CarlE]

IT WAS A FREAKING SCRIMMAGE FOR GOD'S SAKE. Calm the hell down. God, some of you people REALLY need to get lives and be able to put this in the proper perspective. Seeker, it looks like you better be asking Jimbo for a raise. I see mucho overtime looming on your personal horizon.

[massillon catholic]

Is Perry good enough to beat the puppies?:thanx:


By two touchdowns. Perry will give McK fits as well as everyone in the Fed. Like I said Perry should be 10-0 or 9-1. If they lose I expect it to come from Hoover or Lake who both know how to shut down the wing-t. But, Perry's RB's are good and very fast and they rotate QB's and Hyde is tough.

[tiger#22]

Is Perry good enough to beat the puppies?:thanx:

No because they will have trouble throwing the ball again this year.

[obie 66]

I agree with Monte and The voice. It was a scrimmage for heavans sake! Overall they looked pretty darn good. As far as who got carries it means nothing until Middletown on the 24th! Stacy knows what JT can do? You want to burn him out in a scrimmage? He has only seen DTon film. Now he has seen him live. Case closed!!:gogogo:

[SuperBran]

IT WAS A FREAKING SCRIMMAGE FOR GOD'S SAKE. Calm the hell down. God, some of you people REALLY need to get lives and be able to put this in the proper perspective.


exactly!

just like preseason nfl football. let's see.....cleveland's undefeated....indy was spanked........and NO bengals have been arrested. preseason football is nothing like the regular season! high school is the same.

[CarlE]

exactly!

just like preseason nfl football. let's see.....cleveland's undefeated....indy was spanked........and NO bengals have been arrested. preseason football is nothing like the regular season! high school is the same.

And not only that, my Bucanneers beat the freaking New England Patriots. It HAD to be a scrimmage!! LOL

[Kamd50]

Photo album from the indeonline....
http://indeonline.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=314314

[longtimefirsttime]

Really there's not a whole lot I can add at this point. Both teams looked good. The players who really stood out to me:

G. Jackson
D. Torrence.
C. Hildreth
S. Yoder
Clark/Willoughby

[TIGER27]

Can't forget the McGuire's

I said just to name a few I know all about Travis Milo and Darien

[TIGER27]

Really there's not a whole lot I can add at this point. Both teams looked good. The players who really stood out to me:

G. Jackson
D. Torrence.
C. Hildreth
S. Yoder
Clark/Willoughby

Id like to add our two corners JT and Massey to that list. and Robert Partridge I can't believe people aren't talkinga bout him he is increadable.

[LakeCountyTiger]

What happened to Justin Boney? He was on the team last year and I think he played BB too...

[monte81]

I said just to name a few I know all about Travis Milo and Darien

Your youth is showing really bad--- I should smack you for disrspect. LOL Just kidding but i am the oldest brother and I started the madness!

We do allow steel chairs on MP.com!!!!!

[TIGER27]

I'm only 20