"City overruled on mini-golf zoning"

[longtimefirsttime]

"The 5th District Court of Appeals of Stark County upheld a Common Pleas Court ruling allowing local developer Louis Gorgievski to construct an 18-hole miniature golf course at 2629 Lincoln Way W."

http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18277&r=1&Category=3

[Spize]

Honest business people 1

Friends of Frank only club 0

[longtimefirsttime]

I'm trying to place what's there now.

[DAWGH8R]

I believe where the old BARBER SHOP was located. Ice cream stand now ??

[longtimefirsttime]

Oh OK. Is there enough land there for that?

[DAWGH8R]

Honest business people 1

Friends of Frank only club 0

SPIZE, seriously. Do you attend the City Council meetings ???

The people who vote on the zoning changes, and most others on hand, are NOT big fans of Frank,..............as was evident by the recent election signs that they displayed in their yards.


It's gonna be tough to get 18 holes in the parcel that is zoned B3. It butts up against the R1 parcels that go up 26th and 27th streets.

I looked into this land 10 years ago, when the barber shop still stood there. If it's the same parcel.

[Kamd50]

I'm not sure, but wasn't it the neighbors who didn't want it built there?
I would personally love to have another mini-golf course in Massillon again that is outdoors. There is one located in the building that sits back at the end of the drive next to where Payless is on Linc.WE; where the batting cages used to be. But honestly, who wants to go indoors to play? That is an outside game.

I hope they work everything out amicably between the business, the neighborhood, and the city.

[gotigers1]

I'm not sure, but wasn't it the neighbors who didn't want it built there?
I would personally love to have another mini-golf course in Massillon again that is outdoors. There is one located in the building that sits back at the end of the drive next to where Payless is on Linc.WE; where the batting cages used to be. But honestly, who wants to go indoors to play? That is an outside game.

I hope they work everything out amicably between the business, the neighborhood, and the city.

It's nice in the winter time though!

[tucker]

My understanding is that the lot in question fronts on Lincoln Way and extends hundreds of feet south. Only the first few feet of the lot are used for an ice cream stand while the balance of the lot is a long, wide, empty, unused field that adjoining neighbors have been accusomed to using as they pleased for many years.

The proper business zoning is in place, and the new owner wants to create a miniature golf course there. It will run along the back yards of homes on both sides. There will be lights, paying customers, noise and litter. This is what the neighbors are upset about, and I probably would be too.

I agree this will radically change the nature of their homes and sympathize to a point. They got council to put the kibosh on the plans, but an appeal to a higher court reversed council's decision. Now, they should pool their money and offer to buy the property so they can keep it as it is. Otherwise, they have no right to dictate how private property may be used by the lawful owner.

It seems people are usually against any change near their own property, as they are used to things being as they are. But their own homes were new at one time, and the neighbors then probably didn't like seeing that new development, either.

I know people who riled old-time Tuslaw property owners when they built homes in the many new allotments in the township. But they built them anyway. Now, after they've been in their new homes for a year or two, I hear some of the newbies complain about too many homes being built "in the country", or too many kids in the school district.

[tucker]

I forgot to add that Massillon, like any city, has code requirements that specify barriers like walls, fences or dense shrubbery between adjacent commercial and residential properties, reduced lighting, operating hours, and any number of other items to minimize the effect of the business on the residential neighbors.