Dogfighting Charges Filed Against Falcons’ Vick [Archive]

longtimefirsttime

07-18-2007, 02:47 PM

i'd love to put vick in a cage with my 200 lb. mastiff and see his scrambling ability.

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the fight in the dog."-Mike Vick
(one of several MV quotes and jokes making the rounds on the internet)

monte81

07-18-2007, 02:48 PM

WOW!!! Mike Vick is in big trouble right now! I never understood why million dollar athletes still want to be neighborhood thugs! Take your money and enjoy life while the good times last! I have no sympathy for a guy who knows better!

Mass6

07-18-2007, 03:33 PM

This guy disgusts me! As if the dogfighting isn't bad enough,the things that he did to the dogs that weren't good enough is barbaric and he should be punished accordingly. Slamming dogs until they die and electrocuting (sp?) them is rediculous.

MRSDAWGH8R

07-18-2007, 06:07 PM

Thug life baby !!! :afro:

obie7661

07-18-2007, 08:11 PM

i'd love to put vick in a cage with my 200 lb. mastiff and see his scrambling ability.

That's a good way to take a bite out of crime.

obie7661

07-18-2007, 08:37 PM

Michael Vick due in court July 26 on dogfighting charges

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/2007-07-18-3201874199_x.htm

Kamd50

07-18-2007, 09:53 PM

"Bad Newz Kennels" is right. My God, that literally made me sick to my stomach to read that first article. Barbaric doesn't even begin to cover it! What in God's name is WRONG with people who carry out such horrendous acts? Pit bulls or not, these animals are vilified and what amounts to torture because of lazy disgusting greedy scumbags. How does one even have a stomach to actually watch these fights? Uhg, it totally sickens and disgusts me that there are people so lowly and evil roaming this earth with the rest of us. May they rot in jail and then in Hell for their cruel inhumanity. But first, I wish they would put all of those men in a cage with some of those animals that have been mistreated and turned into vicious killers just until they are permanently maimed , before the dogs have to be put to sleep.

longtimefirsttime

07-19-2007, 03:15 AM

Just sickening. I can't imagine anyone could watch or participate this and consider it a "sport" or a "hobby." It's apparently a "booming business."
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/18/dog.fighting/index.html
The fact that an athlete with millions in salary and endorsements and a supposed "face of the league" would (allegedly) engage in this is truly maddening.

"A source with contacts inside of shoe-manufacturing giant Nike tells Pro Football Talk that the sponsorship of Mike Vick will be coming to an end, in light of his indictment on federal conspiracy charges. Per the source, Nike won't move immediately to axe Vick, but that the company will pursue a mutual parting of the ways with the embattled Falcons quarterback." -Pro Football Talk

Gee, you think?

Kamd50

07-19-2007, 07:56 AM

SuperBran

07-19-2007, 09:09 AM

After seeing an aerial view of that property on television, it is very hard to believe that there wasn't some underhanded intentions when building that place clean out in bum**** no-man's land! If MV wasn't aware of what was going on out there then I never gave birth to four children either, give me a break!

ron mexico will deny everything, no matter what evidence they find. he seems to think that everyone is an idiot. there's no way that he bought that house and didn't know what was going on.

he's a perfect example of what is wrong with our society. perhaps the thug will think twice when he's in jail. i'm glad to see that he has a conspiracy charge as well. good luck with that one, vick.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-19-2007, 12:44 PM

Kamd50,

I hate to be the bad guy but Michael Dwayne Vick has been illegally involved in dogfighting for six years, starting in 2001.

I can't believe Vick went this long without being intercepted.

So many dogs, sick and wounded...electrocuted, hung, slammed, drowned, it is a real fiasco.

One question: Why didn't PETA step in to stop all of this let alone any other organization?

ChronicTiger

07-19-2007, 01:23 PM

SuperBran

07-19-2007, 01:37 PM

One question: Why didn't PETA step in to stop all of this let alone any other organization?

my guess is b/c vick forgot to wear his t-shirt that says "proud to illegally fight dogs"

there's a reason this is called an "underground" activity.

longtimefirsttime

07-19-2007, 10:58 PM

"Dogfighting not just a problem down South"
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18284&r=0&Category=

obie7661

07-20-2007, 06:50 AM

Goodell's policies questioned in Vick case

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/falcons/2007-07-20-vick-goodell_N.htm

ReineyKicker15

07-20-2007, 12:14 PM

Its really looking bad for Vick. With increased scrutiny and protesting towards the NFL I think Goddell will almost have to suspend him before this thing ever goes to court. However, if he waits he will never have to suspend him because Vick will be in prison. I dont see any way he ends up getting off on these charges.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-20-2007, 12:40 PM

longtimefirsttime,

That link was very disturbing to how dogfights are conducted. If anything, I for one am glad that it is a felony and that anyone who watches as a spectator or knows about it is charged too.

ReineyKicker15,

If Vick gets off on those charges......I don't know how I would react to that. Probably be shocked at best, irate at worst.

The birds of prey can say goodbye to their fearless leader if the charges are true.

obie7661

07-20-2007, 07:11 PM

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/uc/20070720/lcrmlu070720.gif

longtimefirsttime

07-20-2007, 07:26 PM

Michael Vick is likely hoping the NBA ref scandal can bump him down in the news coverage for a few days.

ReineyKicker15

07-20-2007, 10:23 PM

Cant remember the last time two things this major in sports is goin on at the same time?

RAPTOR

07-21-2007, 03:31 PM

obie7661

07-21-2007, 06:26 PM

Emmitt Smith believes investigators are using Vick to get at others

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=242783

SuperBran

07-23-2007, 10:42 AM

pit bull attacks vick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBuEBHi3BzU

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-23-2007, 04:25 PM

Video of the year! What goes around will come around! Michael Dwayne Vick will get his! Dogs of all breeds......UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DAWGH8R

07-23-2007, 07:21 PM

He'll be a big hit in prison !!!

massillon catholic

07-23-2007, 07:30 PM

He'll be a big hit in prison !!!

Especially in his "corn rows"

monte81

07-24-2007, 09:27 AM

perdiction------PROBATION!! It will not be enough evidence in the end because M. Vick did not reside at the home! Watch what happens when the trial starts. NFL told Vick not to report to camp on Thrusday but will pay the player as of now! He is guilty but in America the crooked get the last laughs and he will be playing football again IMO!!!

longtimefirsttime

07-24-2007, 09:32 AM

People are showing their anger by showing up at Falcons training camp with their dogs. I would be extrememly surprised if he plays this season. And if convicted, a blizting defense will be the least of his worries.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-24-2007, 09:38 AM

longtimefirsttime,

I have a lineup of dogs waiting to take Vick down. But I'm not about to divulge that yet.

SuperBran

07-24-2007, 09:57 AM

monte81

07-24-2007, 02:57 PM

don't forget that there's a conspiracy charge involved. the fact that he didn't reside at the home won't be enough to make that charge disappear.i am well informed of the conspiriafy charge in the case. They still have to prove that he was involved and not just a renter! Drug raids and other things happen and the landlord is initially charged but the charges are dropped. However it is way to early to tell in this case. I feel he is guilty but OJ and Beretta was as well and look what $$$$ does for some people!

MTown

07-25-2007, 12:26 PM

The Feds have something like a 95% conviction rate. They aren't bringing charges unless he's going down. Supposedly, they also have an eyewitness that's going to testify he saw Michael Vick at the dog fight and betting some serious money. If all true, he'll be getting 3 hots and a cot.

The media coverage for this trial is going to be wild.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-25-2007, 01:14 PM

MTown,

No matter how this turns out, Vick's reputation is tarnished! A 95% conviction rate is pretty high.

SuperBran

07-25-2007, 01:19 PM

i was pleased to read the falcon's owner's comments on the situation. it's nice to know they're taking this seriously.

monte81

07-27-2007, 02:48 PM

You heard it from me 1st that M. Vick is getting probation in the end!

austinsm11

07-27-2007, 06:15 PM

Reebok has decided to stop selling Vick jerseys.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-28-2007, 10:37 AM

......and thank goodness! Sick, infested, nasty, freakish, ultra, lewd snake in the grass!!

RAPTOR

07-28-2007, 03:23 PM

......and thank goodness! Sick, infested, nasty, freakish, ultra, lewd snake in the grass!!

Keno-
We are talking about Vick. Not the Michigan football team.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

07-28-2007, 03:41 PM

RAPTOR,

I never said anything about Michigan! I was referring to Michael Vick and his apparel being removed from stores. They were in reference to two posts by Monte81 and austinsm11.

RAPTOR

07-28-2007, 03:46 PM

I'm sorry. I misunderstood your post. Usually I think of Michigans football team when i see words like sick, infested, and nasty.

austinsm11

07-28-2007, 04:21 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2952607

Tony Taylor's expected plea of guilty -- and with it, his future cooperation with prosecutors -- adds to an already impressive array of evidence against Michael Vick in the federal government's dogfighting case against the Atlanta Falcons quarterback.
Taylor is due to enter his guilty plea at 9 a.m. Monday at U.S. District Court in Richmond, Va. His hearing was added to U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson's docket Friday, a day after he and the other three defendants including Vick pleaded not guilty before the same judge.
Taylor was, according to the federal indictment, in the middle of the dogfighting scheme from the beginning. The indictment says Taylor, along with Vick and co-defendant Quanis Phillips, in 2001 "decided to start a venture aimed at sponsoring American Pit Bull Terriers in dogfighting competitions."

I think Vick will be getting more than probation, imo.

monte81

07-29-2007, 10:58 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2952607

I think Vick will be getting more than probation, imo.

I spoke to fast and I definitely didn't think his boys would roll so fast without testing the evidence with seasoned attorney's. WOW this could be the nail that buries Vick for sure!!

austinsm11

07-30-2007, 12:01 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2954244

"You're pleading guilty and taking your chances, right?" Hudson asked Taylor.
He responded, "Yes."
Taylor had the same answer when Hudson asked: "You have agreed to cooperate fully with the United States, is that right?"

Prosecutors claimed in a July 17 indictment that Taylor found the Surry County property that Vick purchased and used as the site of "Bad Newz Kennels," a dogfighting enterprise. Taylor also allegedly helped purchase pit bulls and killed at least two dogs that fared poorly in test fights.

SuperBran

07-30-2007, 12:38 PM

i think i just heard vick soil his pants.

austinsm11

08-14-2007, 04:17 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2972161

With two more co-defendants distancing themselves from Michael Vick, the embattled Falcons quarterback was considering whether to accept a plea agreement for his alleged role in a dogfighting operation.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported on its Web site that attorneys for Vick were in plea negotiations Tuesday afternoon with federal prosecutors. Collins R. Spencer III, a spokesman for Vick's lawyers, declined to comment when reached by the newspaper.

CarlE

08-14-2007, 04:24 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2972161

I'm in Atlanta right now. On the radio on my way to the airport they were saying the attorneys for Vick were behind closed doors with the prosecutors like right now.

austinsm11

08-14-2007, 04:31 PM

I'm in Atlanta right now. On the radio on my way to the airport they were saying the attorneys for Vick were behind closed doors with the prosecutors like right now.

I don't think he has much of an option with 3 of his buddies making deals to testify against him.

massillon catholic

08-14-2007, 04:35 PM

I don't think he has much of an option with 3 of his buddies making deals to testify against him.

UNLESS, he knows something bigger than dog-fighting! He doesn't exactly run with a good crowd.

DAWGH8R

08-14-2007, 05:07 PM

I'm in Atlanta right now. .

Please accept my condolences !!!

CarlE

08-14-2007, 05:08 PM

Please accept my condolences !!!

Why? I love Hot'lanta.

austinsm11

08-14-2007, 06:23 PM

They were saying on ESPN that Vick may get a year in prison even with a deal.

massillon catholic

08-14-2007, 06:27 PM

They were saying on ESPN that Vick may get a year in prison even with a deal.

That was Roger Cossack guessing. I think he is going to drop the dime on somebody much bigger and get off the hook with no jail. Then, in about two-three years he'll get snuffed for snitching.

austinsm11

08-14-2007, 06:31 PM

That was Roger Cossack guessing. I think he is going to drop the dime on somebody much bigger and get off the hook with no jail. Then, in about two-three years he'll get snuffed for snitching.

Possible, but I have a feeling that he will do some jail time. I'm really surprised that they would offer a plea when the other 3 have been willing to turn on Vick. Perhaps Vick does have someone bigger, but I would think the other 3 could give up this "bigger" person.

obie7661

08-15-2007, 09:01 AM

Greatest Threat to Vick May Be Links to Gambling

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/15/sports/football/15vick.html?_r=1&ref=sports&oref=slogin

longtimefirsttime

08-15-2007, 10:39 AM

A plea deal would be in his best interest. He's not going to beat the Feds.

SternRulz

08-15-2007, 10:41 AM

It cracks me up how people are associating dog fighting to "thug life", rap music, etc. Dog-fighting has been around for years and years, mainly in the south, with middle-aged and older white men being the major players. Check out the latest Real Sports on HBO.

CarlE

08-15-2007, 11:01 AM

Dog-fighting has been around for years and years, mainly in the south, with middle-aged and older white men being the major players. Check out the latest Real Sports on HBO.

When in the hell did YOU start posting on here??? LOL

Anyway, watch it with that above post please!

SternRulz

08-15-2007, 11:05 AM

When in the hell did YOU start posting on here??? LOL

Anyway, watch it with that above post please!

Why? Did I say something offensive?

CarlE

08-15-2007, 12:26 PM

Why? Did I say something offensive?

old, white men. LOL

massillon catholic

08-15-2007, 12:26 PM

Why? Did I say something offensive?

Carl is an "older" white man that lives in the south. LOL

SternRulz

08-15-2007, 12:34 PM

old, white men. LOL

No...I said "middle-aged and older", which I guess means...old, white men.

Well, as long as you're not dog-fighting :)

massillon catholic

08-15-2007, 12:35 PM

No...I said "middle-aged and older", which I guess means...old, white men.

Well, as long as you're not dog-fighting :)

Carl's never been the same since he entered his poodle in a dog fighting match and lost!

SternRulz

08-15-2007, 12:58 PM

Carl's never been the same since he entered his poodle in a dog fighting match and lost!

LOL - That'll teach him!

proud to be

08-15-2007, 01:29 PM

Don't you people have jobs!!!???!!!:laugh:

SternRulz

08-15-2007, 01:53 PM

Don't you people have jobs!!!???!!!:laugh:

We're multi-tasking!

:tonguewave:

massillon catholic

08-15-2007, 02:01 PM

We're multi-tasking!

:tonguewave:

Thanks! I always wondered what multi-tasking meant. My wife says she's real good at it.

austinsm11

08-15-2007, 06:35 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2972161

On Tuesday ESPN learned that lawyers representing Vick were trying to negotiate a plea agreement that would include less than the year of prison time that prosecutors had offered.

A source also said that Vick's attorneys had recommended that the embattled quarterback accept a deal if it includes less than a year of jail time, but he had not decided whether to fight the charges.

They said that if Vick took the plea, he would have to outline things that he would have probably been convicted of and give specifics. Vick might have to say how he personally killed some of the dogs.

SuperBran

08-16-2007, 11:28 AM

looks like the plea is for a year in prison. i hope he rejects it so that they can bury him.

http://www.cbs46.com/news/13906397/detail.html

austinsm11

08-16-2007, 11:36 AM

I guess Vick's lawyers are arguing over whether to take the plea or not.

massillon catholic

08-16-2007, 12:19 PM

He'll start singing before long.

SuperBran

08-17-2007, 11:24 AM

ouch!

let's see how fast vick can scramble in prison!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/17/vick/index.html

SternRulz

08-17-2007, 12:31 PM

ouch!

let's see how fast vick can scramble in prison!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/17/vick/index.html

Personally, I hope his arrogance gets in the way and he rejects the deal. I want to see him do more than one year.

On a side note, I hope I never have friends like this.

:)

monte81

08-17-2007, 01:49 PM

Personally, I hope his arrogance gets in the way and he rejects the deal. I want to see him do more than one year.

On a side note, I hope I never have friends like this.

:)

Why would he reject the deal when everyone else in the case has already testified to the Grand Jury that the indictment was true. Only OJ could beat this case right now.

Plea, do a year in prison, pay the 350,000 fine, a year suspended from the NFL, and make a comeback. Maybe a team picks him up next season. he will only do 8 months in the Fed prison and be released on parole.

DAWGH8R

08-17-2007, 01:51 PM

............ he will only do 8 months in the Fed prison and be released on parole.

Fed prison is like a Country Club !!

http://www.lakelasvegas-realestate.com/images/redrock-pic1.jpg

SternRulz

08-17-2007, 02:58 PM

Why would he reject the deal when everyone else in the case has already testified to the Grand Jury that the indictment was true. Only OJ could beat this case right now...

Hence the comment on his arrogance. Obviously it would be dumb to turn it down, but knowing him I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he could beat it.

monte81

08-17-2007, 02:59 PM

Fed prison is like a Country Club !!

http://www.lakelasvegas-realestate.com/images/redrock-pic1.jpg

And he will be on the field next season hopefully alot smarter from his dumb mistakes. 130 million and I wouldn't be doing NOTHING against the law that would land me in prison for sure!!

monte81

08-17-2007, 03:02 PM

Hence the comment on his arrogance. Obviously it would be dumb to turn it down, but knowing him I wouldn't be surprised if he thought he could beat it.

He is not that arrogant to not know if he does not take the deal he will never see the NFL again. This is the only chance he has to salvage his career and the Fed's are being real light on him because he is Mike Vick---I would be doing 20 years.

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

08-17-2007, 03:49 PM

monte81,

Vick is staggering on the ropes. If he doesn't accept a deal, his career is over. The evidence against him is too d___ing to the point he won't beat the charges anytime soon.

austinsm11

08-17-2007, 04:49 PM

Why would he reject the deal when everyone else in the case has already testified to the Grand Jury that the indictment was true.

Good question, but for some reason at least one of his lawyers seems to think he would be better off going to trial.

Kamd50

08-17-2007, 07:41 PM

Drowning and hanging animals? Pitbulls or not, this is nothing short of barbaric and speaks VOLUMES of what kind of person he REALLY is!

I hope he never gets the opportunity to set foot onto an NFL field again. I think that they should put him in a cage with one of those provoked pitbulls empty handed and see how tough he is.

PhotoObie

08-17-2007, 10:10 PM

Plea deal or not, take off the "kid gloves" because he is M. Vick and give him the prison time that the average person would receive for these acts of cruelty. This is not the role model the NFL needs and hopefully he is done.

For you Kamd...

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q139/dodge001/vick.jpg

Kamd50

08-17-2007, 11:49 PM

:heee: Missed you on media day, Joe, hope to run into you at the dt rally though:tig:

CarlE

08-18-2007, 06:57 AM

Only OJ could beat this case right now.

You just answered your own question, my friend. If OJ taught us anything it is that ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.

obie7661

08-18-2007, 09:03 AM

JURY DUTY

http://mctv.hometownohio.com/media/mctv/images/485156bbcacd64226a260dbdc8c07f81.jpg

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

08-18-2007, 10:11 AM

Those pictures were so funny! I FREAKING LOVE YOU ALL ON HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Scooby-Doo...he is my favorite dog and he always makes me laugh!

PhotoObie...that is a funny picture!

But to get into my real angle, Michael Dwayne Vick is a sick individual. I saw some dogfighting videos never seen before on HBO and it is so disgusting. I'm talking pit bulls, rottweilers, dobermans, bulldogs, etc. all used for fighting. Seriously, I saw a clip of a man taking a sick and wounded bulldog back to the woods (and you know what that means) and he called it a "homegoing." Shooting a dog in the back of it's head a "homegoing"? To quote Chucky from Child's Play: "No f(reak)in' way!"

At least Purnell Peace and Quanis Phillips are coming forward. Animals don't deserve that kind of abuse.

Those last two pictures were forceful! Those charges on the stand all lead with force. The dog chasing Vick leads with force. And I am happy for once to see Scooby-Doo show some forceful bravery!

Benchboss1

08-18-2007, 10:41 AM

Fed prison is like a Country Club !!

http://www.lakelasvegas-realestate.com/images/redrock-pic1.jpg

Isn't that CarlE's guest house?:drinkem:

Benchboss1

08-18-2007, 10:44 AM

ouch!

let's see how fast vick can scramble in prison!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/08/17/vick/index.html

I wonder what Vick will do if he happens to "fumble the soap" in prison? :grinning:

obie7661

08-18-2007, 10:51 AM

I wonder what Vick will do if he happens to "fumble the soap" in prison? :grinning:

Someone's goin' score for sure.

obie7661

08-18-2007, 10:55 AM

Everyone involved in dog fighting should go to prison for a long, long time.

http://www.usanimalprotection.org/gypsy100.jpg

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality/photos/triumph0605_2.jpg

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

08-18-2007, 11:01 AM

obie7661,

I got sick looking at that.

obie7661

08-21-2007, 06:47 AM

When being the first is being the worst

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070821/COL01/708210362

obie7661

08-22-2007, 03:00 PM

NAACP: Let Vick return to Falcons after jail sentence

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/falcons/2007-08-22-vick-wednesday_N.htm

massillon catholic

08-22-2007, 03:04 PM

PETA V. THE NAACP. I can't wait to watch this one!

SuperBran

08-22-2007, 03:06 PM

NAACP: Let Vick return to Falcons after jail sentence

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/falcons/2007-08-22-vick-wednesday_N.htm

"White said he regretted that the plea deal will mean all the facts of the case might never be known."

no, i think white would should be happy the facts won't be known.....otherwise he'd have a much tougher time defending vick.

can someone please buy white a clue.