Fullback/Offense

[MRR55]

i know that its early and guys have to earn starting jobs, but what do you think about yoder playing fullback?

[Mass6]

I think I'd rather have him playing tackle or guard before fullback. He's a great athlete and all, but let's use him at a position that we may NEED help. Our backfield is pretty stacked.

[longtimefirsttime]

Maybe on occasion. With his size could open up some holes. But overall I agree with Mass6.

[DAWGH8R]

I don't know that his hands are soft enough to warrant any carries, but he'd be a great blocker !!

[Red50Go]

Situationally - Absolutely! Like 3rd & 1, 4th & 1, or goal line package. I also mostly agree w/ the line comments though I think it is harder to start on both sides in the trenches. Bottom line - play your best.

[monte81]

I posted in another thread that we have thronton and KJ for fullback duties and that should fill that need pretty well with DT and JT running RB. I said in certain situations we can use a bull package or stacked backfield but not a every down fullback. We need him at tackle or guard on offense and definitely on the Dline and if our coaching staff is thinking otherwise than we are not using our kids properly to win ball games. I have said it many times before that players need to play their role and coaches should not try to make good players into superstars at positions they do not need to be playing. Would Yoder ever play FB in college?--NO so why try to make him into a player he is not.

The kid is a hellava defensive player and should be a leader for our team on both sides of the ball as a LINEMAN!!!

[TIGER27]

So is JT going to play WR or RB or both?

[monte81]

So is JT going to play WR or RB or both?

He told me that he is practicing at both the RB and slot WR. He will be a double threat for defenses to try to handle. With his skills you have to account for him EVERY PLAY! He loves the "athlete" description being put on him and is ready for the season. He feels he has alot to prove and I know he will deliver.

[proud to be]

The kid is a hellava defensive player and should be a leader for our team on both sides of the ball as a LINEMAN!!!

I agree he can make an impact on both sides of the ball. but do we need him on both sides?

[monte81]

I agree he can make an impact on both sides of the ball. but do we need him on both sides?

Did you see our oline last year!!! Yoder needs to be on the oline helping us grind out around 2500 to 3000 yards rushing this season!

[proud to be]

You are preaching to the choir!!! I agree with you totally!! But aren't there any juniors ready to step up this year???

[monte81]

You are preaching to the choir!!! I agree with you totally!! But aren't there any juniors ready to step up this year???

I really do not think on the oline and dline that you want to very young again this season. We have to get away from that 2 platoon style of play if we want to compete and beat the best. Play the best 11 even if they have to go all game. HS kids should be able to go all night -- GO HARD OR GO HOME!! Back in the day special players were mad if they were taken out of the game on either side of the ball. If they cannot go all game than we are definitely lacking more in the conditioning aspect than I thought we were.

[Red50Go]

Monte, whether Yoder will play fullback in college is besides the point. Before he came here, Andy Alleman played some fullback as a jr for Hoover and would knock LB's 3-4 yards off the line of scrimmage. I forget the tailback's name (he transfered from Mckinley actually) but he had a GREAT year. Yoder is in the same mold - same build, maybe bigger - can move (I think even faster) - and IMO would DOMINATE as a lead blocker at this level. Again, not full time because he does not have the full arsenal of a skill player but when it is time to play SMASHMOUTH you put all your mouth smashers in there!

[monte81]

Monte, whether Yoder will play fullback in college is besides the point. Before he came here, Andy Alleman played some fullback as a jr for Hoover and would knock LB's 3-4 yards off the line of scrimmage. I forget the tailback's name (he transfered from Mckinley actually) but he had a GREAT year. Yoder is in the same mold - same build, maybe bigger - can move (I think even faster) - and IMO would DOMINATE as a lead blocker at this level. Again, not full time because he does not have the full arsenal of a skill player but when it is time to play SMASHMOUTH you put all your mouth smashers in there!

I agreed in certain situations but he would help us more on the line--IMO. The same spot he will play at the next level. Yoder is definitely not as quick as Alleman was but in the same physical mode-yes. We have more than enough firepower at RB/FB and need excellant oline play and Yoder can provide that for us. Championships are won on the front seven to go along with the studs running the rock and Yoder at guard pulling is better than if he was at FB.

[slider63]

Coach Stacy said in an interview after last season that if Yoder had not broken a bone in his hand he would have played fullback and would have been a real weapon, like a Tabron from Mck. He also said he cant wait to see him at fullback this coming year. So unless his plans have changed I would assume that is what we will see. Slider, out!!!

[DAWGH8R]

I can see Yoder on a goalline " JUMBO " package, but that would be it. And, only for blocking, until that 15th week, when he "scrapes off' the OLB and catches the game winning TD !!!!

[longtimefirsttime]

If it's a Tiger game-winning catch in week 15, I don't care if it's the waterboy.

[DAWGH8R]

My momma says, foosball is the devil !!

http://www.tropiccomics.com/ebay/waterboy1.jpg

[OldSchoolObie]

Did you see our oline last year!!! Yoder needs to be on the oline helping us grind out around 2500 to 3000 yards rushing this season!

I would say look at our tackles last year. Guards and center were not the bulk of the problem. They can get out of a stance and move.

[Obie78]

Yoder has the "engine the does not quit" and appears to take pleasure in the physical contact of the game, so he could be a great help in the running attack. Also with him at fullback he may be able to provide support to our tackles who may need some help with getting off the line quickly during runs and be able to handle the rush off the end if our tackles are slow getting off the ball during passing plays.

[tig62]

If it's a Tiger game-winning catch in week 15, I don't care if it's the waterboy. Can we say, " Bobby Boucher (prenounced 'Booshay)".

P.S. This one is for Tigress.

[MassFan3]

We will be solid enough up front this year - Yoder would be much better at FB. He would be more interested to play it, more willing to play it, and he is a GREAT athlete. You can't stick a guy like that on the OL unless you're really desperate. At this point, the way it sounds is that even some guys on the OL from last year may not start, and we can fill their voids easily with what we have.

In college, you want an athletic O-tackle. In HS, if you already have some that would do well, put him where he can be effective. Lead blocking for the 3 best RBs in the state and leaking out to catch passes, then running people over.

[OldSchoolObie]

We will be solid enough up front this year - Yoder would be much better at FB. He would be more interested to play it, more willing to play it, and he is a GREAT athlete. You can't stick a guy like that on the OL unless you're really desperate. At this point, the way it sounds is that even some guys on the OL from last year may not start, and we can fill their voids easily with what we have.

In college, you want an athletic O-tackle. In HS, if you already have some that would do well, put him where he can be effective. Lead blocking for the 3 best RBs in the state and leaking out to catch passes, then running people over.

A few things:

1. Playing Yoder there is not being desperate. You play the people at the position that they can most effect a situation in a game and win. You don't play them in a position based on what they want or what they "should" play.

2. I'm dying to know what we have that is so great that we can "easily fill" the spots of players that have game time expierience and started last year. If those players are that good why didn't they start last year? :help:

3. I agree that we have the best back field in the state. Therefore why should we jepordize a key player on defense in an offensive position that is already loaded? It doesn't make sense. If Yoder isn't playing tackle then he shouldn't play offense at all, unless at a "Rhino" or TE position.

[mtownwr22]

Look for Junior Cody Nickels to get alot of playing time at Fullback hes a hardnosed kid who loves running people over, he has great hands, hes fast, and hes as strong as an ox. If Yoder plays line or if he doesnt play Offense at all Nickels has a BIG shot to be our fullback for the next 2 years.

[monte81]

A few things:

1. Playing Yoder there is not being desperate. You play the people at the position that they can most effect a situation in a game and win. You don't play them in a position based on what they want or what they "should" play.

2. I'm dying to know what we have that is so great that we can "easily fill" the spots of players that have game time expierience and started last year. If those players are that good why didn't they start last year? :help:

3. I agree that we have the best back field in the state. Therefore why should we jepordize a key player on defense in an offensive position that is already loaded? It doesn't make sense. If Yoder isn't playing tackle then he shouldn't play offense at all, unless at a "Rhino" or TE position.

Agree! Tackle or no offense except maybe-maybe goal line!! We have a loaded skill set that should be able to score at any point in a game with BLOCKING!!

[Dingma608]

Chyeah

[OldSchoolObie]

Look for Junior Cody Nickels to get alot of playing time at Fullback hes a hardnosed kid who loves running people over, he has great hands, hes fast, and hes as strong as an ox. If Yoder plays line or if he doesnt play Offense at all Nickels has a BIG shot to be our fullback for the next 2 years.

Torrence. Herring. JT. Thornton. Possibly Yoder. Nickels won't see the field, not that he isn't worthy, just too much talent, experience, and depth in front of him.

[mtownwr22]

Thornton will not be in front of Nickels.. trust me ;-) but Yoder will.. and Yoder will not be on O the majority of the time. Hes a big guy and will need to rest to stay hot at DE.

[OldSchoolObie]

Thornton will not be in front of Nickels.. trust me ;-) but Yoder will.. and Yoder will not be on O the majority of the time. Hes a big guy and will need to rest to stay hot at DE.



You must be a relative of his. If I'm not mistaken, Thornton had a big game against McKinley did he not? A few key runs? I think I seen the other candidate handing him water bottles.

[Obie Wan]

and Yoder will not be on O the majority of the time.
That would be consistent with Stacy's philosophy over the last two years: 2-way players see more PT on D. See Gamble, Dailey, etc.

Having said that, Yoder would seem to be one of the better football players on the team. I'd find it hard to believe that we have 11 kids who are better offensive players than he. As such, if the goal is to have our best on the field on both sides of the ball, it would be a bit puzzling if he were to be used solely on D.

Hypothetically speaking, it may be that a particular kid is the best FB we have. He may also be one of the best OL that we have. And the best TE. It would seem that he would/should play the position that best benefits the team. And that depends, in large part, on the kids that are available to man the other positions.

[monte81]

That would be consistent with Stacy's philosophy over the last two years: 2-way players see more PT on D. See Gamble, Dailey, etc.

Having said that, Yoder would seem to be one of the better football players on the team. I'd find it hard to believe that we have 11 kids who are better offensive players than he. As such, if the goal is to have our best on the field on both sides of the ball, it would be a bit puzzling if he were to be used solely on D.

Hypothetically speaking, it may be that a particular kid is the best FB we have. He may also be one of the best OL that we have. And the best TE. It would seem that he would/should play the position that best benefits the team. And that depends, in large part, on the kids that are available to man the other positions.

Every kid on the team should be able to go both ways if needed and if not conditioning is a problem. PLAY THE BEST 11 PLAYERS ON EACH SIDE OF THE BALL---PERIOD!!! Regardless if it is the same 11 on both sides. When you run platoons with our enrollment size we lose talent at some key positions. Yoder, JT, Torrence and a few others should not come off the field. I want our program to win a championship and playing key players on both sides of the ball is obvious and the only smart thing to do.

We have weapons on offense and I am glad Stacy is putting packages together to get the studs the ball in differant situations. If he does that we will be very explosive.

[austinsm11]

Do kids at the middle school level or freshmen level play both ways? If so, I wonder why there is such a change at the varsity level. I know at our middle school down here just about the whole team play O and D. I think we had maybe 2 lineman that were either just O or just D, but that was it.

Also, how much did DT play both ways at South. Was he used more on one side as compared to the other?

[Tigress]

Can we say, " Bobby Boucher (prenounced 'Booshay)".

P.S. This one is for Tigress.

:jestera: :heee:

[monte81]

Do kids at the middle school level or freshmen level play both ways? If so, I wonder why there is such a change at the varsity level. I know at our middle school down here just about the whole team play O and D. I think we had maybe 2 lineman that were either just O or just D, but that was it.

Also, how much did DT play both ways at South. Was he used more on one side as compared to the other?

ALOT!! Devoe shared the offensive load with Devon all season but played virtually every down of every game. This is not nothing new in HS--look at all the great players or players with DI college capabilities--they run both ways in HS. Heck Chris Gamble ran both ways for OSU in 2002--did he ever look tired?? Man we treat these kids like babies these days and wonder why they have no discipline or self control---make them work for what they want to accomplish and football is no exception!

[91' alum]

Man we treat these kids like babies these days and wonder why they have no discipline or self control---make them work for what they want to accomplish and football is no exception!

:iagree:

[mtownwr22]

You must be a relative of his. If I'm not mistaken, Thornton had a big game against McKinley did he not? A few key runs? I think I seen the other candidate handing him water bottles.

I am not a relative of his.. Yes he did, but in about 40 days you'll see ;-) Nickels is stronger and faster..
thorntan is recovering from surgery so he might not be 100% this season.

[Kamd50]

No need to cut on one player while talking up another. Mtowner22 has some valid information.

[massillon catholic]

Coach Stacy said in an interview after last season that if Yoder had not broken a bone in his hand he would have played fullback and would have been a real weapon, like a Tabron from Mck. He also said he cant wait to see him at fullback this coming year. So unless his plans have changed I would assume that is what we will see. Slider, out!!!


Yoder is a better weapon than Tabron ever was.

[OldSchoolObie]

Where would this information be coming from? And even so, I still don't think he will get playing time with the experience in front of him. The talent pool is too deep. Torrence, Herring, Turner, Yoder. 4 starters returning from last year(granted Yoder played TE). I don't think it is likely he'll play over any of them.


...Monte I agree!!! Absolutely! These players are babied now-a-days! It's just like backyard football. You can play kids both ways, it won't kill them.

[massillon catholic]

No need to cut on one player while talking up another. Mtowner22 has some valid information.


EXACTLY! The season is here and there should be no critcism of any players. They are one team. I've been critical in the past of certain players when the season was over, but not now. I pledge "NO CRITCISM" of any players from here on out.

[Dingma608]

You Guys are right! But last year When Leonard got hurt in the Moeller Game. Nickels Was the one that was going to replace him as a Sophmore! So he has just as good as Shot as the others in his position.

[massillon catholic]

Without criticising anyone, remember that the RB's must be able to show that they can hold on to the ball!

[Dingma608]

Without criticising anyone, remember that the RB's must be able to show that they can hold on to the ball!

I definetely agree with that! Fumbles were a major issue last year!

[MassFan3]

Yoder is a better weapon than Tabron ever was.

Let's hope he proves you right this year - he definitely has the potential....but Tabron was an absolute animal and you my friend just made an absolute STATEMENT.

[monte81]

Let's hope he proves you right this year - he definitely has the potential....but Tabron was an absolute animal and you my friend just made an absolute STATEMENT.

No way is Yoder a better fullback than Tabron! Yoder is an exceptional athlete but you cannot say that as far as what has been proven on the field. How many carries does yoder had in his career? Tabron is on schollie at Ball State and Yoder is a DT prospect to all colleges recruiting him and I think he will land a DI deal. I just think its an apples to oranges comparison but both players are better than average athletes! Yoder will be a definite force for us but I just do not think it will be at FB---way to many other weapons to try to get the football to!

If Cross would of kept feeding Tabron the ball last year we would of be in alittle trouble stopping him!

[massillon catholic]

No way is Yoder a better fullback than Tabron! Yoder is an exceptional athlete but you cannot say that as far as what has been proven on the field. How many carries does yoder had in his career? Tabron is on schollie at Ball State and Yoder is a DT prospect to all colleges recruiting him and I think he will land a DI deal. I just think its an apples to oranges comparison but both players are better than average athletes! Yoder will be a definite force for us but I just do not think it will be at FB---way to many other weapons to try to get the football to!

If Cross would of kept feeding Tabron the ball last year we would of be in alittle trouble stopping him!

Monte: I said that Yoder is a "better weapon" than Tabron ever was, I never said a better fullback! I'll stick by my statement that Yoder is a "better weapon than Tabron ever was. If Yoder plays fullback and only gets a few carries, I would take Yoder over Tabron. I'm not saying that Tabron wasn't exceptional, because he was. But, Yoder is something special. He will be a dominating blocker from the FB position, something that we haven't had in awhile.

[Red50Go]

I agree w/ mc. I believe Yoder is a potentially dominating lead blocking back. Like a guard in the backfield. Running the ball I dont know. When Tabron was handed the ball he usually had an opening my grandma could run through because everyone was focused on Morgan Williams (much like they will be DT & JT et al).

[Mass6]

I agree w/ mc. I believe Yoder is a potentially dominating lead blocking back. Like a guard in the backfield. Running the ball I dont know. When Tabron was handed the ball he usually had an opening my grandma could run through because everyone was focused on Morgan Williams (much like they will be DT & JT et al).

It would be nice to have people concentrating on our backfield so much that our other weapons open up. Could be a very good year!!!! Good Luck Tigers!

[massillon catholic]

It would be nice to have people concentrating on our backfield so much that our other weapons open up. Could be a very good year!!!! Good Luck Tigers!


I think you'll see most teams putting 8 or 9 guys in the box to try and stop our run. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust to our RB's. But, our O-Line must come through or everything else goes out the window.

[Mass6]

I agree with you on that MC!!! Let's hope the "Getting back to the basics" program that they have going includes firing off the ball and not catching the DL every play. I have confidence they will succeed!!!

[massillon catholic]

I agree with you on that MC!!! Let's hope the "Getting back to the basics" program that they have going includes firing off the ball and not catching the DL every play. I have confidence they will succeed!!!

I hope that you are correct. They have had a year to get better and I'm sure the coaches had them working hard. We certainly don't want to have the pass open up the run, but rather the run open up the pass.

[monte81]

I think you'll see most teams putting 8 or 9 guys in the box to try and stop our run. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust to our RB's. But, our O-Line must come through or everything else goes out the window.

If teams put nine in the box to try to stop the run--JT and Georgio will be all americans if any of our QB's can get the ball downfield!

On Yoder---- pulling guard and goal line FB---PERIOD! He may prove me to be wrong until then I will stick to my opinion.

[mtownwr22]

Where would this information be coming from? And even so, I still don't think he will get playing time with the experience in front of him. The talent pool is too deep. Torrence, Herring, Turner, Yoder. 4 starters returning from last year(granted Yoder played TE). I don't think it is likely he'll play over any of them.


See have you noticed that 3 out of the 4 players you listed will not be used full time on offense? If Yoder plays fullback it wont be very much. Hes a big guy and will need rest coming off from defense.. Turner wont be used as a fullback. And Torrence and Herring probably wont either the majority of the time. So when Yoder isnt in who is? Nickels got just as much Varsity time as Thorntan, and if im not mistaking Nickels scored.. Nickels gets the nod over Thortan. When Yoder isnt in and Torrence or Herring arent lined up at fullback you'll see Nickels. But who knows what formations we'll be using this year. I'd like to see some 3 back formations. What would the defense do when Devoe Torrence, Justin Turner, and K.J. Herring line up in the backfeild. Or minus Herring and Throw in Steve Yoder.. What a nightmare for a DCoordinater...

[OldSchoolObie]

I think you'll see most teams putting 8 or 9 guys in the box to try and stop our run. It will be interesting to see how defenses adjust to our RB's. But, our O-Line must come through or everything else goes out the window.

I agree with you on that MC!!! Let's hope the "Getting back to the basics" program that they have going includes firing off the ball and not catching the DL every play. I have confidence they will succeed!!!

It takes 11 to make a play happen. :deal:

[Tigerfan1979]

I agree w/ mc. I believe Yoder is a potentially dominating lead blocking back. Like a guard in the backfield. Running the ball I dont know. When Tabron was handed the ball he usually had an opening my grandma could run through because everyone was focused on Morgan Williams (much like they will be DT & JT et al).Excellent point!:2thumbsup:

[pup pounder]

Does everyone remember yoders first game as a tiger.We snuck him into the mckinley game.He was a punishing lead blocker.I say in goal line or third & short he's in.But to think we will use someone so critical to our defense regularly is moronic.Just my 2 cents.

[Obie Wan]

Does everyone remember yoders first game as a tiger.We snuck him into the mckinley game.He was a punishing lead blocker.I say in goal line or third & short he's in.But to think we will use someone so critical to our defense regularly is moronic.
Like Gamble?

[Smitty]

....But to think we will use someone so critical to our defense regularly is moronic.Just my 2 cents.

Or, Chris Spielman??

[monte81]

Does everyone remember yoders first game as a tiger.We snuck him into the mckinley game.He was a punishing lead blocker.I say in goal line or third & short he's in.But to think we will use someone so critical to our defense regularly is moronic.Just my 2 cents.


Every HS kid should have a motor to play both ways!! That is reality of HS football. If you are a 4/5 star recruit you better be able to grind out 4 quarters of football going 100 plays. Any player that cannot do it should not be playing at all or needs some conditioning training. Spielma, Myricks, Bart Lec, gamble, etc,... the horses have to play both sides the majority of the game or we lose against top tier teams!! 2 platoon football is for schools with 1000 to 1200 male student population and can afford to play that way ie: St. X, Moe, Iggy, Mentor,etc,... and you still see them using two way players. With our enrollment numbers, good athletes just not playing, all the kids in the detention centers who could contribute, etc,... WE BETTER RIDE THE HORSES AND LET THEM GO ON BOTH SIDES!!!! If Yoder, DT, JT, Massey, etc,..or any other tiger is the best we have at 2 positions then they play 2 positions!!

[AllOhio]

How about that 6'2" 250 pounder from Toledo. Anyone know what the future playing possibilities are for this young man?

[OldSchoolObie]

You Guys are right! But last year When Leonard got hurt in the Moeller Game. Nickels Was the one that was going to replace him as a Sophmore! So he has just as good as Shot as the others in his position.



Wasn't it Scassa? Were you watching the game from the parking lot?

[longtimefirsttime]

How about that 6'2" 250 pounder from Toledo. Anyone know what the future playing possibilities are for this young man?

Do you mean Anthony Allen from Whitmer? He missed the playoff game against the Tigers due to the appendectomy. Of course he has his senior season left to play. According to Bucknuts he already has offers from Michigan State, Michigan, Illinois and Central Michigan.

[mtownwr22]

Do you mean Anthony Allen from Whitmer? He missed the playoff game against the Tigers due to the appendectomy. Of course he has his senior season left to play. According to Bucknuts he already has offers from Michigan State, Michigan, Illinois and Central Michigan.

I think he means the transfer from Toledo that we got.. his name is Jeff Myers and he plays guard.. No, no one is sure how much playing time he will get.. he's a nice sized kid and started for his team last year as a sophomore even though they were only like DIV but he looks like he has alot of potential.

[massillon catholic]

Do you mean Anthony Allen from Whitmer? He missed the playoff game against the Tigers due to the appendectomy. Of course he has his senior season left to play. According to Bucknuts he already has offers from Michigan State, Michigan, Illinois and Central Michigan.

Did he play against McK?

[Dingma608]

if i was in the parking lot i wouldnt have been able to see Partridge grab Nickels when leonard got hurt. I dont think he was getting him for no reason!:wtf:

[mtownwr22]

Ding is right.. it was Nickels that was going to replace Leonard... and he was alot closer to the action then 95% of us were on here lol.

[longtimefirsttime]

Did he play against McK?

I don't think he did.

[obie 66]

We will never win a state championship until we stop two-platooning! Look back to the last state championships we won. Exception was Bob Commings who single platooned. From Earl Bruce back, what was the common thread? NONE of them platooned. We are too small, numbers wise, to compete today platooning. We need our BEST 11 on the field at ALL times. That means YODER belongs on the field as much as possible somewhere!! Back then we had more athletes than the teams we played and we kept them on the field and outnumbered the opponents athletes. Conditioning was NEVER a problem.
Now when we platoon, sometimes we have less athletes on the field than our opponents!? If someone is better than the 11 on the field, he should be in there.

[monte81]

We will never win a state championship until we stop two-platooning! Look back to the last state championships we won. Exception was Bob Commings who single platooned. From Earl Bruce back, what was the common thread? NONE of them platooned. We are too small, numbers wise, to compete today platooning. We need our BEST 11 on the field at ALL times. That means YODER belongs on the field as much as possible somewhere!! Back then we had more athletes than the teams we played and we kept them on the field and outnumbered the opponents athletes. Conditioning was NEVER a problem.
Now when we platoon, sometimes we have less athletes on the field than our opponents!? If someone is better than the 11 on the field, he should be in there.



Agree 100% with the statement and I have said the same thing numerous times! I do not care if the same 11 players play the entire game! We must put our best athletes in the game at all times. Any proper conditioned HS athlete should not have a problem grinding it out for 4 quarters. I am not at all saying we only have 11 starters period but the best has to get the time and NO 2ND UNIT SPECIAL TEAMS EITHER!

[pup pounder]

the bottom line is were trying to pee with the big dogs,So we do what ever we can.We should be d2.Look what happened to gamble,when he got hurt.All of a sudden we lose two starters.Sure certian players can play both ways.But when we have to just to play even with the big schools it gets scary.How close are we to the divisional drop point?You do realize that since they tabled the issue massillon will have no choice when the numbers fall.

[Obie Wan]

How close are we to the divisional drop point?You do realize that since they tabled the issue massillon will have no choice when the numbers fall.
1. The proposal can always be un-tabled.
2. The reason that the proposal was shelved was because of the outcry from DVI schools, which was the result of a realignment that pushed all of the schools down into the bottom division. Who's to say that a more sensible redistribution won't be introduced next spring?

[monte81]

the bottom line is were trying to pee with the big dogs,So we do what ever we can.We should be d2.Look what happened to gamble,when he got hurt.All of a sudden we lose two starters.Sure certian players can play both ways.But when we have to just to play even with the big schools it gets scary.How close are we to the divisional drop point?You do realize that since they tabled the issue massillon will have no choice when the numbers fall.

BG was injured because he was overused offensively and we really had more weapons than that from the start. I see a trend that Massillon feels they only have room for 1 star per year and BG was the feature. We had SEVERAL other players that could have stepped up on both sides of the ball if given the oppurtunity!IMO

BTW----we can pee on the big dogs!!! DII=NEVER for Massillon unless we get crazy low numbers like 350 boys!