2007 Cleveland Browns thread

[longtimefirsttime]

Yes, the season is right around the corner.

"Quinn working through early growing pains"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2902696

Any predictions for the season? Better than last? .500? Will they beat the Steelers?

[longtimefirsttime]

"Knee recovery to limit Winslow"
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/sports/1181723699108010.xml&coll=2

[MTown]

We will beat the Steelers in week 1!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

MTown!

Daggumit, man! What in Dennis Miller's name are you thinking? No way Pittsburgh loses week 1! When the Steelers hit the Browns...the game will be over! Pride, persistence, power, passion, perseverance, prestige will prevail! Steve Harvey's hometown will be 0-1!

Physical...bone-breaking...Pittsburgh Steelers football! Enough said!

Now go relax your mind and get off the Cleveland train......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stCKjZniMsQ

GO STEELERS!

[MTown]

This is the Browns 2007 thread....so why wouldn't I say the Browns are going win? If you don't agree, start a Steelers thread. I will say again, the Steelers are crumbling while the Browns are building themselves up. It starts in week one.

[austinsm11]

I am really excited about this year. Hope the injury bug doesn't come again though.

[longtimefirsttime]

"Lewis running for the Browns now"

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2904189
"'I don't buy the thought that people say I'm out of gas and I don't have anything in the tank,' Lewis said. He'll get a chance to prove that this year for the team he used to fill his tank up against."

[TigerDL71]

The browns will be a little better this year but I still think that they are a few years out from being good.

[jbones]

We will find out the first couple weeks of the season if the browns will be able to compete this year

[longtimefirsttime]

You too can do the Brady Quinn workout. He's the cover on the latest edition of Men's Health Magazine.
http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do?site=MensHealth&channel=fitness&category=workout.plans&conitem=405c51fb9b523110VgnVCM20000012281eac____

[Chibbzz]

Didn't we say at the start of last year before all the training camp injuries that the team would go 7-9, 8-8 or even 9-7? Look how that turned out! As an Irish fan, I am in love with Brady and think he can do a lot for the city of Cleveland. His only problem is that the rest of the team (besides Winslow) is a waste and he will get absolutly no coaching. The Browns win maybe 6games and might get shut out week 1 against the Squeelers.

[austinsm11]

Anyone here Kitna say the Lions are going to win 10 games? I guess they finally got a receiver that will pay off.

[Tiger2001]

:heee: I bought a #80 for myself and a #10 jersey for my gf today! I cant wait

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Tiger2001,

Good for you. Hope to see you in the opener.

[longtimefirsttime]

Rumor has it Keno was at the Poison concert at Blossom recently and was trying to get Brady Quinn to serenade him. :hyper:

[longtimefirsttime]

"Crennel has a lot to do and little margin for error"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2918091&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab6pos1

[longtimefirsttime]

A breakdown of the challenges faced by the AFC North teams:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/bucky_brooks/07/02/tc.preview.afc.north/index.html

[SuperBran]

Anyone here Kitna say the Lions are going to win 10 games? I guess they finally got a receiver that will pay off.

i did see where kitna said that the lions would win ten games and that he is aiming for 50 td passes.

[SuperBran]

I am in love with Brady and think he can do a lot for the city of Cleveland.

quinn is very green right now. let's hope he doesn't see the field until next year. i'd hate to see the browns throw him into the fire like they did with couch. give the kid time to learn.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

I already know what's going to happen to Brady Tyler Quinn when he faces the menacing, overpowering, tough, heated, empowered, rude, freakish, ultra, corrupt, knocking, intimidating, nasty, gnashing defense known as the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Here's a hint: What happened to four of New England's best players on Halloween 2004? And what happened to five others late September of 2005?

[longtimefirsttime]

The Browns are reportedly getting ready for a prolonged holdout from their top draft pick.
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/07/05/browns-bracing-for-lengthy-holdout-from-first-round-left-tackle/

[longtimefirsttime]

LeCharles Bentley has received a clear physical from the NY Giants physician.
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18405&r=2&Category=2
Now we'll see what the Browns medical team says.

[DAWGH8R]

I already know what's going to happen to Brady Tyler Quinn when he faces the menacing, overpowering, tough, heated, empowered, rude, freakish, ultra, corrupt, knocking, intimidating, nasty, gnashing defense known as the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Here's a hint: What happened to four of New England's best players on Halloween 2004? And what happened to five others late September of 2005?

Preach on BROTHER KENO !!!!

http://pittsburghdish.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/capt1cds10712242143steelers_browns_fo.jpg

[longtimefirsttime]

I hope it's more like this.
http://www.brownshistory.com/photo/turkeyjones.JPG
(brownshistory.com)

[DAWGH8R]

http://www.ijamsports.net/roughing_the_passer.jpg

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

longtimefirsttime,

That was ole' Turkey Jones slamming Terry Bradshaw. I never forgot that...I like the picture of Nathan Mallett getting bodyslammed by James Harrison better.

Now answer me ONE question: How many titles have the Browns won since the inception of the Super Bowl? Tell you what: answer it for me when Cleveland wins their first Lombardi trophy. Till then...get used to me preaching about the five glamorous Lombardi trophies (REAL TITLES) the Steelers have!

[longtimefirsttime]

The titles the Browns won before the Super Bowl weren't real? Jim Brown will be on your doorstep shortly to educate you on the issue.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

longtimefirsttime,

So are you going to tell me Cleveland's nine titles were real (if they won nine...someone check that for me)?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the NFL doesn't recognize the Browns AAFC championships or their championships before the Super Bowl era.

You're OWNED by yours truly.

And the Pittsburgh Steelers have a record of 503-492-21 entering their 75th season (and a decade best 79-41-1) of professional football!!!!! That makes this all the sweeter!

[CarlE]

longtimefirsttime,

So are you going to tell me Cleveland's nine titles were real (if they won nine...someone check that for me)?

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the NFL doesn't recognize the Browns AAFC championships or their championships before the Super Bowl era.

You're OWNED by yours truly.

And the Pittsburgh Steelers have a record of 503-492-21 entering their 75th season (and a decade best 79-41-1) of professional football!!!!! That makes this all the sweeter!

Keno, my friend you are about to make yourself look rather silly. Um, the NFL DOES recognize those championships and in fact there's this building about 8 miles from Massillon near the home field of those crack-town trailer-dwelling chumps of which you are an alumnus. That building ALSO recognizes the championships. Now quit being silly. You must not have taken your medication today.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

I might have misread the source I was looking at today. I just got off the Browns website and it has them winning four NFL championships (pre-Super Bowl era). Too bad......the Pittsburgh Steelers are a title better than them, all of theirs coming in the Super Bowl era.

I won't argue this one with you only because Pittsburgh has their five world titles but you're due for a Pittsburgh blood transfusion.

But whether the Browns can win a Super Bowl title in the Super Bowl era remains to be seen.

[longtimefirsttime]

Keno, the Pro Football Hall of Fame acknowledges their records and titles:
http://www.profootballhof.com/history/team.jsp?franchise_id=8

"The teams of the AAFC basically were of comparable quality to those of the NFL but, in the first 10 years of post-World War II pro football, the Cleveland Browns proved to be the best in either league. With such all-time greats as quarterback Otto Graham, fullback Marion Motley and tackle-kicker Lou Groza leading the way, Cleveland won all four AAFC championships and amassed a 52-4-3 winning record. When the AAFC folded after the 1949 season, many insisted a major reason was the Browns' dominance that eliminated any viable competition. The AAFC-NFL settlement called for the Browns, San Francisco 49ers and Baltimore Colts to join the NFL. Many NFL diehards, still not convinced the Browns were for real, expected Cleveland to fail badly when they played against the established NFL teams. But the Browns quickly proved their domination was no fluke by opening the 1950 season with a stunning 35-10 victory over the defending NFL champion Philadelphia Eagles. Cleveland then won the NFL Eastern Conference championship for six straight years from 1950 to 1955 and NFL titles in 1950, 1954 and 1955."

"Pro football's greatest dynasty"
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=164

You are partially correct. The NFL does not formally recognize records from the AAFC, like they do with the AFL. Dante Lavelli and other Browns were furious for them not doing so.

[CarlE]

You're two posts too late there, my friend. A VERY smart poster alerted young Keno of that a few minutes ago.

[longtimefirsttime]

I wanted to show him actual proof.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

I looked at a wrong site there. That's all.

[CarlE]

CarlE,

I looked at a wrong site there. That's all.

Well, from now on if two expert minds such as LTFT and myself tell you something, you can take it as gospel. Class dismissed. Right LTFT?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

That's one of the things I'm greatly respected for. If I do make a mistake, I'll acknowledge it. And plus, everyone knows about my "you-can't-make-others-happy-all-the-time-and-I'm-OK-with-that" approach to things.

Everything is going to be just fine my award-winning little league baseball manager located in the Sunshine State!

GO STEELERS! BLACKEN THE BROWNS!

[monte81]

The browns go 10-6 getting Bentley back in the mix and Winslow and Edwards hoping to be 100% The only thing I am concerned about is Thomas holding out!!!!WOW---- AD was the sure pick and is ready in Minnesoda!!Another dumb draft choice.


Crazy perdiction but it would make my mother happy!

[austinsm11]

The browns go 10-6 getting Bentley back in the mix and Winslow and Edwards hoping to be 100% The only thing I am concerned about is Thomas holding out!!!!WOW---- AD was the sure pick and is ready in Minnesoda!!Another dumb draft choice.


Crazy perdiction but it would make my mother happy!

So we will be tied with the Lions then. ha ha

I don't know how you can call drafting Thomas a dumb draft choice. Who knows yet how these guys will do? You can disagree with the choice and prefer AP..that is fine, but I don't consider Thomas to be a dumb choice. Thomas was one of the highest ranked players. Besides, OL has always been a need that has not been addressed since the Browns came back.

[longtimefirsttime]

Well, from now on if two expert minds such as LTFT and myself tell you something, you can take it as gospel. Class dismissed. Right LTFT?

Haha. I'm not always right. But I think we proved our point in this case.

[MTown]

AD was the sure pick and is ready in Minnesoda!!Another dumb draft choice.




Geez, Monte...

I wanted AD REAL BAD, but also stated many times that Thomas would be fine. He's going to be a good player, and if it works out he'll be our left tackle for 10-12 years. Even the BEST running backs run out of gas after about 5 years. And besides, it's not as if we drafted Peterson that he would be in camp...hardly ANY first round picks have signed and virtually no second rounders either.

[CarlE]

Haha. I'm not always right. But I think we proved our point in this case.

You're right. You are NOT always right. BUT, when you happen to agree with me you ARE!!!

[Kamd50]

Good Lord! Does anyone have a pair of those thigh-high boots I can borrow?:laughing:

[longtimefirsttime]

"While Browns rookies practice this week, quarterback Brady Quinn sits and waits. Quinn's holdout is only a couple of days long, but it has drawn notice around the league. Quinn 'doesn't have much (leverage) right now,' said an insider, who has been involved in contract deals with several big-name players over the years. `If the Browns are smart, they wouldn't do anything extra special. They could always just play the other two quarterbacks, let Quinn go back in the draft, or trade him next year.'"
-SI/Akron Beacon Journal

[longtimefirsttime]

"Browns ink deals with Thomas, Wright"
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18488&r=0&Category=2

[austinsm11]

Good to see them get signed and into camp. I wonder how long Brady holds out.

[longtimefirsttime]

The Browns aren't sweating about his holdout. They'll end up getting him for less and won't have to make excuses for why he's not starting right away (as you know some fans will pressure them to do).

Romeo is definitely on the hotseat. With the tough early schedule, if they would go 0-6 or 1-5, he's done.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

longtimefirsttime,

You better hope Crennel is in the eye of the storm. I do agree with you a bad start to the season and he'll end up like Butch Davis and Chris Palmer......gone!

[longtimefirsttime]

And then they can hire Cowher, right Keno? I hadn't seen you use the "eye of the storm" reference in quite awhile.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

longtimefirsttime,

I know when to use that term. And I think it applies to Crennel's situation. How many coaches have you seen walk off the field in the eye of the storm?

[longtimefirsttime]

"Despite holdout, Quinn still hard at work"
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7071940

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

longtimefirsttime,

Brady Tyler Quinn can hold out all he wants and I wouldn't give a rat's tail. Until otherwise, ride the Charlie Frye train (but it will crash come week 1).

[austinsm11]

From some of the message boards I have been reading Savage said at some point during the draft something to the effect of having Brady in their top 5. Brady's agent is probably trying to get him top 5 money then.

[TigerDL71]

Brady Quinn is going to start to loose a lot of the Brown's faithful trust if this keeps going on. On WTAM the one day Savage said something to the effect of it is taking 6 weeks with Quinn what it took 6 hours with Joe Thomas. I just hope that browns fans don't become some angered at Quinn that they turn on him as they did Tim Couch.

[austinsm11]

Although I can't find anything official, I have heard that Brady has signed for 5 years and around 14 million with an 8 million signing bonus. I don't know how true it is and others feel like he might not sign until Russell signs.

It is interesting all of the fuss being made over quinn, but there hasn't been nearly as much made out of Russell not signing.

[MTown]

On Tony Rizzo's show on KNR this morning, he reported that the sides were about 500k apart and that the deal should get done this morning, with Quinn getting to Cleveland either tomorrow or Wednesday.

It's about freaking time.

[CarlE]

Brady Quinn is going to start to loose a lot of the Brown's faithful trust if this keeps going on. On WTAM the one day Savage said something to the effect of it is taking 6 weeks with Quinn what it took 6 hours with Joe Thomas. I just hope that browns fans don't become some angered at Quinn that they turn on him as they did Tim Couch.

Oh, they're going to turn on him all right. And it won't have anything to do with the anger from this contract holdout. It will be for the obvious reason that everyone thinks he's going to be their savior and he's going to be nothing but ANOTHER freaking bust.

[TigerDL71]

Oh, they're going to turn on him all right. And it won't have anything to do with the anger from this contract holdout. It will be for the obvious reason that everyone thinks he's going to be their savior and he's going to be nothing but ANOTHER freaking bust.

He wants big time money and lets face it, he has not played a down in an NFL game and in most big games in his college career he choked.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Preach it CarlE! Quinn is going to get thrown to the side! Everyone knows what happened to TSC when he was in Cleveland!

[austinsm11]

OFFENSE

WR: Joe Jurevicius, Tim Carter, Josh Cribbs, Kendrick Mosley, Syndric Steptoe. (Mike Mason listed as injured)
LT: Joe Thomas, Nat Dorsey, Cliff Louis
LG: Eric Steinbach, Andrew Hoffman
C: Hank Fraley, Lennie Friedman, Rob Smith. (LeCharles Bentley listed as injured)
RG: Seth McKinney, Isaac Sowells, Fred Matua
RT: Kevin Shaffer, Kelly Butler, Ryan Tucker
TE: Kellen Winslow, Steve Heiden, Darnell Dinkins, Ryan Krause, Buck Ortega
WR: Braylon Edwards, Travis Wilson, Steve Sanders, Efrem Hill, Maurice Mann
QB: Charlie Frye, Derek Anderson, Ken Dorsey (Brady Quinn not listed)
FB: Lawrence Vickers, Charles Ali, J.R. Niklos
RB: Jamal Lewis, Jason Wright, Jerome Harrison, Chris Barclay, Jerome Jackson


DEFENSE

LDE: Shaun Smith, J'Vonne Parker, Melia Purcell. (Orpheus Roye listed as injured)
NT: Ted Washington, Ethan Kelley, Babatunde Oshinowo
RDE: Robaire Smith, Simon Fraser, Orien Harris, Chase Pittman
LOLB: Willie McGinest, Antwan Peek, Jason Short
MLB: Andra Davis, Leon Williams, Clifton Smith
WLB: D'Qwell Jackson, Chaun Thompson, Mason Unck, Kris Griffin
ROLB: Kamerion Wimbley, Matt Stewart, David McMillan
LCB: Leigh Bodden, Daven Holly, Brandon McDonald, Therian Fontenot. (Gary Baxter listed as injured).
RCB: Eric Wright, Kenny Wright, DeMario Minter, Jereme Perry
SS: Sean Jones, Justin Hamilton, Jeremy LeSueur
FS: Brodney Pool, Mike Adams, Justin Sandy

SPECIAL TEAMS

P: Dave Zastudil
PK: Phil Dawson, Jesse Ainsworth
PR: Joshua Cribbs, Syndric Steptoe, Brandon McDonald
KR: Joshua Cribbs, Chris Barclay, Jerome Harrison
LS: Ryan Pontbriand, Steve Heiden


I know it is early and this can change. What are your thoughts? I would like to see Cribbs ahead of Carter.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

All you Browns fans never fail to put a smile on my face. Nice depth chart for the most part. Let's see who the 53 players are come week 1.

But it won't mean anything September 9th at 1:00 p.m. and after 4:00 p.m.

And yes...Brady Quinn was outplayed badly by Jamarcus Russell in the Sugar Bowl, thrashed by Michigan, and choked against Ohio State (what else is new). Quinn can add the Steelers to his list of troubles after week 1!

[austinsm11]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp07/news/story?id=2964653

Brady Quinn has agreed to a five-year contact with the Cleveland Browns worth $20.2 million, with $7.75 million guaranteed, ending his holdout.

The deal could grow to $30 million over five years with incentives.

[longtimefirsttime]

ESPN's Mark Schlereth had an excellent interview on the Jim Rome show this afternoon. He talked about how when he played, he and others would not have immediately welcomed guys like Quinn with open arms. He said he saw several rookie QB's come in after holdouts and expect to be annointed the starter. He said you have to earn the respect of your teammates and it will take time.

[austinsm11]

I hope this is nothing:

Steinbach hurt (http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18808&r=2&Category=2)

Eric Steinbach left the field midway through practice Tuesday because of a right knee injury and did not return.

Coach Romeo Crennel speculated Steinbach’s knee was bruised after falling on it in the field house of the Browns’ training complex. The injury isn’t believed to be serious, but whenever an offensive lineman walks off the field with a trainer at his elbow it is cause for anxious moments.

[longtimefirsttime]

....Especially when it's a Browns lineman...who they paid a lot of money to acquire.

[austinsm11]

Sounds like Steinbach bruised his knee and will be out 2 weeks.

[MTown]

We need to be more concerned with Willie McGinest's back. That's the kind of thing at his age, that will linger and might not ever get better. We NEED his leadership for our still young defense.

[longtimefirsttime]

"Coin flip will determine starting QB"
http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/article.php?id=7063

At his age, you wonder how McGinest will recover from the surgery.
Matt Stewart will likely miss the entire season. Losing two key pieces of your linebacking crew is a big loss. All eyes will be on Chaun Thompson. Also Gary Baxter still hasn't participated in any high speed drills.

[MTown]

Losing Matt Stewart won't change a thing....he sucks.

Losing McGinest at outside LB will hurt, but they say he'll only be out for 6 weeks, which would put him back around week 3. I don't know if I buy that....can't imagine it's easy for a mid 30's guy to come back from that kind of surgery and play football.

[longtimefirsttime]

Uh no. Sometimes it's not easy to even get out of bed.

[austinsm11]

The Browns won 16-12 over KC.


I was very impressed with Wimbley. That guy is a stud. Jamal Lewis also played well in limited action. I think that Antwan Peek played well and I hope could make us forget about Willie (although Willie's leadership and knowledge will be missed). I REALLY like Eric Wright and our db's had a good night. I thought Frye outplayed Anderson, but neither was that impressive. Frye made a bonehead play at the end of the half where with 12 seconds left (and no TOs) and the ball around the 3 or 4, he didn't have any recievers open, so he ran for the endzone and was tackled....time runs out. Throw the ball away and try again. He also threw a poor screen backwards that the RB missed and KC picked it up and ran into the endzone. The O-line looked pretty good but KC didn't try much defensively. Joe Thomas had some nice blocks but 2 holding penalties.

The defense is still very shaky against the run. I also worry about our 2nd string RB. I didn't think Wright played very well. Harrison played better but had a couple mistakes (fumble, giving up on the lateral/screen).

Overall, I thought the main guys did a good job. I am really excited about this season and think if the starting QB can can play decent (nothing spectacular) the Browns could have a very good year.

[longtimefirsttime]

Was Bernie drinking? He seemed to be slurring his speech excessively.

As far as the team, they looked decent but not great. I was hoping to see Brady at the end, but didn't really expect it.

[longtimefirsttime]

The Browns have a QB dilemma.

[austinsm11]

The Browns have a QB dilemma.

I didn't get to see the game, but I am going to record it tonight on NFL network.

Don't forget, Brady played well in the 4th quarter against nonstarters. From what I read, he also had 1-2 balls that could/should have been picked off. There wasn't much on Dorsey, but it sounded like he played decent. I just don't care for Anderson at all. I say keep Frye, Dorsey, and Quinn.

I do give Quinn credit for making Crennel's decision tougher. Two touchdowns in about 9 minutes is impressive. It would be nice to see Quinn play in the first half at some point this preseason.

[DPdad]

I'm inclined right now to kick both Charlie and DA to the curb, let Dorsey start the season with BQ in reserve, and pick up an older vet for insurance.

I would start Dorsey against the Broncos and let BQ play the entire second half. I'm tired of seeing the deer in the headlights look from both Frye and Anderson. They are not the future of this team, Quinn is. Let's dump both these guys and start fresh.

[CarlE]

8 freaking minutes against guys that aren't even going to make the team and you guys have annointed him the next Joe Montana. I swear, this disappointment will be as bad as the Tribe's swan dive next month. Will you guys EVER learn?

[MTown]

All true, Carle.....but has a Browns QB EVER done something like that against ANY competition since '99?

The bottom line is that Charlie Frye and Derek Anderson have no long term future with the Browns. There is a reason they drafted Quinn and gave up a 1st round pick to do it, because they are not the answer. I don't care who it was against, I doubt anyone expected a performance like that in his first game.

Here is my stone cold prediction (apologies to Keno)....Derek Anderson gets cut on Sept 1st and Quinn starts the season as the #2 QB.

[Benchboss1]

8 freaking minutes against guys that aren't even going to make the team and you guys have annointed him the next Joe Montana. I swear, this disappointment will be as bad as the Tribe's swan dive next month. Will you guys EVER learn?




Too funny. By the way, the swan-dive will be moving front and center starting tomorrow night when the Schmucks come down for their annual August ass-beating at the hands of my Devil Rays.



I thought that the swan dive was going to begin this weekend against your D-Rays. What happened with that CarlE? :laugh:

[CarlE]

Too funny. By the way, the swan-dive will be moving front and center starting tomorrow night when the Schmucks come down for their annual August ass-beating at the hands of my Devil Rays.



I thought that the swan dive was going to begin this weekend against your D-Rays. What happened with that CarlE? :laugh:

I was wrong. Dead wrong. I'm NOT wrong about pretty-boy Quinn, however.

[austinsm11]

Here is my stone cold prediction (apologies to Keno)....Derek Anderson gets cut on Sept 1st and Quinn starts the season as the #2 QB.

That was what I am looking at happening as well. I am kind of curious how Dorsey would do with the first team. He might not have all the athletic tools but be able to manage the game until Quinn is ready.

[Benchboss1]

I was wrong. Dead wrong. I'm NOT wrong about pretty-boy Quinn, however.



Just what are you saying about Quinn CarlE? Are you saying that he is not the answer now, or not the answer ever? Just asking.

[longtimefirsttime]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. By posting that the Browns have a QB "dilemma", I was not claiming that Quinn should be the immediate starter. I mean that they should be preparing for the 9/9 game against the Steelers and we have no clear cut "winner" at QB. Frye has looked mediocre, Anderson may not even be on the opening day roster and Dorsey is a backup at best.

Yes many Browns fans are going overboard after Quinn's performance against a third string prevent defense. Until he gets a chance against better competition, we won't know where he is on the depth chart. But the Browns obviously think he's the QB of the future or they wouldn't have traded up to get him. But there's no need to rush him, as the Browns aren't a Super Bowl contender this year anyway. Very few (Marino, Roethlisberger and Vince Young come to mind) have had big success in their rookie seasons.

[Mass6]

My thoughts are that they should start BQ this weekend against the Broncos just to see what he has with both his own teams starters, and the opposing teams starters. It's an exhibition game that means nothing. I would rather find out he's good or bad when it doesn't count, other than trying to implement him when there could be something on the line. I'm not saying he's out best QB, but if it's even in the back of their minds to start him sometime this year, it would be nice to see how he does with the starters in a game situation. The last preseason game, no starter plays more than a series if that, so this next game is it.

[CarlE]

Just what are you saying about Quinn CarlE? Are you saying that he is not the answer now, or not the answer ever? Just asking.

That's EXACTLY what I'm saying. Overrated now, not a good decision maker later, and quite honestly, I just don't LIKE the guy.

[longtimefirsttime]

Cowher coaching the Browns may be just a dream.
"Bill Cowher said his current state of relaxation reaffirmed his decision to leave the sidelines and that he did not miss coaching or training camp. "I don't see myself coaching anytime in the near future," he said.
-New York Times

[MTown]

$10mil a year would change his mind!

Bring the Chin IN!

[obie7661]

$10mil a year would change his mind!

Bring the Chin IN!

http://www.redzonethreat.com/images/BillCowher1.jpg

[obie7661]

Browns' to-do list: Start Frye, prep Quinn, run Lewis

http://www.ohio.com/sports/pluto/9381021.html

[monte81]

Quinn looked better than Anderson and Frye with the 1st unit last night and I starting to think he should be the starter despite the holdout!

[austinsm11]

Anyone see Quinn's hair? They said that some of the defensive players held him down and shaved his head.

Kenny Peterson also played for the Broncos in the 4th quarter. I thought he was cut.

[obie7661]

Browns’ Baxter Charts a Difficult Comeback

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/26/sports/football/26browns.html?ref=football

[longtimefirsttime]

Kenny Peterson also played for the Broncos in the 4th quarter. I thought he was cut.

He was cut and re-signed about 16 hours later. Of course when the regular season starts, he must serve his four week suspension.

[longtimefirsttime]

Read Peter King's latest "Monday Morning QB" report. He mentions how the Browns were warned about not drafting certain players due to character issues, but Butch Davis and company drafted them anyway.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/peter_king/08/26/mmqb/5.html

[austinsm11]

He was cut and re-signed about 16 hours later. Of course when the regular season starts, he must serve his four week suspension.

WTF...that seems strange.

[longtimefirsttime]

Yes it does. Maybe by cutting him they weren't required to pay some kind of bonus or something. Who knows.

[austinsm11]

Ken Dorsey has been cut. I didn't expect the Browns to keep 4 Qb's, but I hoped we could trade Anderson and at least get a low draft pick for him.

[longtimefirsttime]

In the preseason Dorsey looked better than Anderson. At least they now have their three QB's.

[austinsm11]

What the heck happened to Cleveland?

[npaflas]

They won in a real good game. Finally show some offense.

[MTigers006]

They won in a real good game. Finally show some offense.


I know off topic, but gosh I hope we can say that about our Massillon Tigers after friday night.

[TigerDL71]

They won in a real good game. Finally show some offense.

Its amazing how bad anderson can look one week then look so great the next. Nice win by the browns today, I thought they were going to give it away in the end but an INT sealed the deal for them.