"Handful of Tiger quarterbacks aim for starting job"

[longtimefirsttime]

The Inde story:
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=17403&Category=2

[MassFan3]

We are going to be deep at the QB position. Lots of competition for the spot! It will be no easy task to fill in for #16, so the battling QBs must work, work, work!! I have faith they will do fine, however!

:TIG2:

[DAWGH8R]

Whoever wins the starting spot will be more than adequate for the job. I'm sure the game plan will be to ease them into the fold.

The competition is as deep as they would like you to think. It's a 2 horse race.

[MassFan3]

I can think of at least 3 who are in the mix, my friend!:weightlift:

[DAWGH8R]

Keep thinking that !!!!!!!!!!

[MassFan3]

None are proven! How can there be only two candidates? Talk to me after 7 on 7s and the 1st scrimmage!

[DAWGH8R]

When I tell you it's Easter, start coloring your eggs !!!

[massillon catholic]

While attending a 4th of July party at Glenmoor last night. I was told by someone as close to the program as you can get, that its Clarks job to lose. Which is why Joey Rhoades from Central didn't transfer.

[monte81]

I perdict that Clark wins the job! I also think he will be a primetime QB the next 2 years.

[massillon catholic]

With the RB's we have, all the QB has to do is limit mistakes!

[Paul Brown]

While attending a 4th of July party at Glenmoor last night. I was told by someone as close to the program as you can get, that its Clarks job to lose. Which is why Joey Rhoades from Central didn't transfer.

They let you in Glenmoor with that poor punctuation? :)

[mtownwr22]

While attending a 4th of July party at Glenmoor last night. I was told by someone as close to the program as you can get, that its Clarks job to lose. Which is why Joey Rhoades from Central didn't transfer.

The whole winter there was rumors of John Hyde and Matt Vick Transfering from Perry.. If one transfered the other would stay and i personally talked to Hyde and he was trying to transfer and someone close to me talked to Vicks dad and he wanted him to transfer. Then we were supposed to be getting another QB from St. Thomas Aquinas, then i also heard Barberton. But since there was SO much talk of Mike Clark thats probably the #1 reason Everyone of those guys didnt come. But imo Clark and Adkins are neck and neck. Neither have an advantage over the other. It will be GREAT competition this summer. I dont think Coach Stacy will decide till after 2-a-days. Dont favor one over the other yet. Theyre both loaded with a bunch of talent but dont let all the talk lead you to believe Mike Clark is an All-American.

[DAWGH8R]

Like I've said from the beginning: This is a two horse race !!!

http://www.pharlaptravel.com.au/images/General/2_horses_racing.jpg

[npaflas]

And the main one will win.

[TigerVic]

Like I've said from the beginning: This is a two horse race !!!

http://www.pharlaptravel.com.au/images/General/2_horses_racing.jpg

Is that Spike Jones' Beetle Bomb on the right?

[TIGER27]

If Clark and Adkins are neck and neck Clark will win the job, Stacy said he'd go with the younger kid. I also head that the Partridge kid has been playing well, that should come with being a coaches son. I dont care who wins I just have some oppions but I won't post them on the forums. I think all the kids could be good though.

[hitman]

If Clark and Adkins are neck and neck Clark will win the job, Stacy said he'd go with the younger kid. I also head that the Partridge kid has been playing well, that should come with being a coaches son. I dont care who wins I just have some oppions but I won't post them on the forums. I think all the kids could be good though.

I have my opinions also but I can't express them. I just don't think that it is a 2 man or at least a fair race. I have a huge feeling that Coach Stacy already has his mind made up.

[DAWGH8R]

After the season starts, I think a lot of people are gonna realize just how good Bobby Huth was ! He may not have been the flashiest QB, but he managed the game well, and made GOOD decisions, and WON games.

[tigrs45]

Adkins and clark are the same age...If they are neck and neck i beleive he will go with Adkins because of the chemistry he has with guys like Turner. Adkins and Turner have been on the same page since the 7th grade. Just a thought

[hitman]

After the season starts, I think a lot of people are gonna realize just how good Bobby Huth was ! He may not have been the flashiest QB, but he managed the game well, and made GOOD decisions, and WON games.

I couldn't agree with you more. Bobby was a great high school QB!

[Paul Brown]

After the season starts, I think a lot of people are gonna realize just how good Bobby Huth was ! He may not have been the flashiest QB, but he managed the game well, and made GOOD decisions, and WON games.


It won't surprise me in the least. I was calling for him his sophomore year :)

[mtigers96]

Two questions;
what are the sizes of Clark & Atkins?

I thought I heard that Clark was listed in the top 50 soph. to wach?

[tigrs45]

Adkins 6' 185 -Clark 6'1 170

[longtimefirsttime]

Rivals had these listings. Keep in mind it was from last season.

Clark 6-1, 190
Adkins 5-11, 160

[DAWGH8R]

Mike couldn't weigh 190 with Woody's fire gear on !!:obiefanfire:

[hitman]

Two questions;
what are the sizes of Clark & Atkins?

I thought I heard that Clark was listed in the top 50 soph. to wach?

From who? He never played a varsity down.

[LakeCountyTiger]

I saw it too, I think it might have been on Rivals? I'll see if I can find it. I think he went to a bunch of camps and that's what they base it on...My best friend has a son who was a back up a Lake Catholic as a soph, never really played, started as a jr at QB. Then went on to earn a full ride to Iowa, he's a redshirt freshmen battling for the starting job there now (he was MVP of the North-South game too). But it was the same senario... He was one of the players to watch without really seeing the field until his junior year (the guy in front of him recieved a full ride to OU) but they knew about him because of camps and that sort of thing....

[tigrs45]

Rivals had these listings. Keep in mind it was from last season.

Clark 6-1, 190
Adkins 5-11, 160

^^Thats old Adkins has got thick and alot stronger since last year...
He had to battle the torn acl he had last season. He worked hard to get his knee back to 100%

[hitman]

Clark is MAYBE 165lbs not even close to 190lbs

[AllOhio]

The newspaper listed 2 sophs also in the mix. Don't want to forget about them either. I haven’t heard much about their athletics/skills.

Anyone remember Mike Danzy? He was one slippery QB. Dude could really elude and run.

With a possible back field of JT-KJ-DT and a nasty blocking SY if you were to throw in a running QB.... Well then, geez I really like the looks of things. If by chance there is a running QB that can throw deep, it's dangerous. When 8-9 are in the box, I see 2 returning TE's in the plans. Lets not forget about the deep treat either, he is back.

My point though is that some serious damage can be done in the ground game and if one of the QB's can tote it look out. I just hope that the talent gets used to its fullest extent and each player is plugged into the correct position to take advantage of their talents.

[fyrewood]

Mike couldn't weigh 190 with Woody's fire gear on !!:obiefanfire:

DAWG,

I've got news for you, I don't weigh 190 with my fire gear on either!
I may just be leaning on the other side of 190 though...lol

[DAWGH8R]

Woody,

I figured Mike at 165, and figured your FULL GEAR had to weigh 25 pounds. I wasn't saying you were fat !!

[fyrewood]

DAWG, I know you weren't saying that....I was!

Our newer gear with new fiberglass wrapped, spun aluminum air bottles and composite frame air packs are much, much lighter...Our old gear with our old Air packs with metal frames and heavy aluminum bottles used to add 50 pounds to you....talk about wearin' you out quick while you're fighting a fire.

[CarlE]

DAWG, I know you weren't saying that....I was!

Our newer gear with new fiberglass wrapped, spun aluminum air bottles and composite frame air packs are much, much lighter...Our old gear with our old Air packs with metal frames and heavy aluminum bottles used to add 50 pounds to you....talk about wearin' you out quick while you're fighting a fire.

Dang, Woody. You sound like one of those Transformer guys in the movie young Andrew drug me to the other night!!

[mtownwr22]

Partridge has been doing good and the other sophmore is not in the race.. The 2007 Quarterback race is between Mike Clark and Tim Adkins who are both juniors. We probably wont find out whos starting till after 2-a-days...

[MassFan3]

I couldn't DISagree with you more. Are you a player? I hope not. Have you been paying attention during workouts? I would say you HAVE to mention Willoughby and Partridge along with Clark and Adkins.

[TIGER27]

Two years ago we all thought Huth had no chance.

[CarlE]

Two years ago we all thought Huth had no chance.

Don't argue with MassFan3. Haven't you heard? He's the end-all when it comes to Massillon football. Especially when we're playing those "state powerhouses" Perry and North Canton.

[OldSchoolObie]

Don't argue with MassFan3. Haven't you heard? He's the end-all when it comes to Massillon football. Especially when we're playing those "state powerhouses" Perry and North Canton.

:laughing:


I'd love to know where some of these people get their information on here. Anybody will post any little thing they hear.

[mtownwr22]

Don't argue with MassFan3. Haven't you heard? He's the end-all when it comes to Massillon football. Especially when we're playing those "state powerhouses" Perry and North Canton.

hahaha yahhh well massfan3 you think what you want and we'll see :dance:

The race is between Clark and Adkins. Enough said.

[Obie Wan]

Two years ago we all thought Huth had no chance.
Maybe you thought that...

[mtownwr22]

yah before 2-a-days all the players knew it was going to be Huth.. but everyone else didnt..

[Kamd50]

Two years ago we all thought Huth had no chance.

I never knew anyone who thought that. In fact, everyone I know that followed the jr high/freshman teams were quite confident Bobby would be the man for the job.

[TigerKrazyFan]

Clark should be QB. WoW What we know about him. Did he go to a Massillon school and play for us. Did he QB a D1 game-ever:huh: :huh: So yeah lets just give it to him. Wish people would give me stuff. Stupid. Let the boy prove himself like all the other quarterbacks. I don't give him nothin earn it boy. The fight for QB 07 goes to the one who wants it the most and works the hardest to get it.

[DAWGH8R]

Clark should be QB. WoW What we know about him. Did he go to a Massillon school and play for us. Did he QB a D1 game-ever So yeah lets just give it to him. Wish people would give me stuff. Stupid. Let the boy prove himself like all the other quarterbacks. I don't give him nothin earn it boy. The fight for QB 07 goes to the one who wants it the most and works the hardest to get it.

Nice first post :rolleyes:

I don't thuiink they will give the job to "the one who wants it the most and works the hardest to get it".I think it might possibly go to the most talented, and best able to run the offense. However, I could be wrong !!

[mtownwr22]

Clark should be QB. WoW What we know about him. Did he go to a Massillon school and play for us. Did he QB a D1 game-ever:huh: :huh: So yeah lets just give it to him. Wish people would give me stuff. Stupid. Let the boy prove himself like all the other quarterbacks. I don't give him nothin earn it boy. The fight for QB 07 goes to the one who wants it the most and works the hardest to get it.

hahaha wow.. well we do know some things about him.. we can watch him at practice.. there are 7 on 7 camps where we can watch his decision making and we can watch him throw the ball and see hows he throws it and if hes accurate and has a strong arm and so on.. and i didnt see anyone giving it to him? i swear throughout this whole thread most everyone is saying it will be a good race for quarterback. and just bc he didnt go to massillon doesnt mean no one saw him play anywhere else. no one knows who the quarterback will be and no one said Mike Clark will be Massillons 2007 quarterback.

[TigerKrazyFan]

mtownwr22 u have to be a player because u are so stupid thinkin u know all this its jus people are all saying mike this mike that if he was tht good there would be no question he would be the starter i think its wide open for anyones taken but right now i think willoughby and partridge have the upper hand willo hes a senior and knows the offense. partridge hes young but very strong arm and is doing exceptional i say in the end its between clark and partridge. Go Tigers!!!!

[mike_da_man13]

with our backfield we shouldnt ever hardly pass we should use clark and run the option

[DAWGH8R]

Who QB'd the JV games last year ????? I don't think that was by accident. And that is detrimental to learning the offense , and getting reps.

[longtimefirsttime]

I trust Stacy's ability to judge QB's.

[CarlE]

mtownwr22 u have to be a player because u are so stupid thinkin u know all this its jus people are all saying mike this mike that if he was tht good there would be no question he would be the starter i think its wide open for anyones taken but right now i think willoughby and partridge have the upper hand willo hes a senior and knows the offense. partridge hes young but very strong arm and is doing exceptional i say in the end its between clark and partridge. Go Tigers!!!!

And you must be the guy who he's beating out. Instead of worrying about the new QB, go learn how to spell, OK?

[MassFan3]

I'll have the last laugh on this topic. I never counted Adkins out, I just think Partridge and Willoughby are AT THE VERY LEAST in the mix, and if I had to narrow it down to 2 QBs, I wouldn't necessarily have both Clark and Adkins. Go think I'm crazy, anyways! What do I know?

Carl - what did I say to you on this post? Talk about juvenile. Still grading other people's posts? I wouldn't start telling people to learn how to spell until I myself could spell. Thanks for calling me the end-all, though! At least you got one thing right.

[mtownwr22]

mtownwr22 u have to be a player because u are so stupid thinkin u know all this its jus people are all saying mike this mike that if he was tht good there would be no question he would be the starter i think its wide open for anyones taken but right now i think willoughby and partridge have the upper hand willo hes a senior and knows the offense. partridge hes young but very strong arm and is doing exceptional i say in the end its between clark and partridge. Go Tigers!!!!

im so stupid thinking i know all of this? haha knowing all of what? when did i say mike this and mike that? ive been saying since the beginning that its a 2 man race and if you had any knowledge of these quarterbacks you would say the same but apparently you have no clue of whats going on. i can see how mike throws at practice and i can see his decisions and how he reads the defense during 7 on 7. And you can think willo and partridge have the upper hand and if anyone on the team heard you say that they would probably just look at you and laugh and think about how much of an idiot you are. Theyre both not bad at all but theyre not starters. And Clark is good and so is Adkins. They both have alot of potential. They both could be starters and theyre just as good as each other so that creates the race. But i think you need to just leave this subject alone because every key you press on your keyboard it makes you look more foolish than you already do.

[MassFan3]

hahaha yahhh well massfan3 you think what you want and we'll see :dance:

The race is between Clark and Adkins. Enough said.


*Sigh*....

http://www.ncaabbs.com/funnies/general/smartchart.jpg

[MassFan3]

Clark, Partridge, Willoughby, Adkins

Those 4 are neck in neck at this point because WE HAVEN'T EVEN STARTED TWO-A-DAYS!!!!!

http://www.ncaabbs.com/funnies/general/tmyk.gif

[mtownwr22]

haha okkk.. Like i said before you go ahead and think that but i can guarentee you its Clark or Adkins.. 95% of the people on here would agree with me if they had any knowledge of this subject.

[massillon catholic]

Whatever happened to the Pedro kid?

[LakeCountyTiger]

Doesn't he pitch for the Mets now?

[LakeCountyTiger]

LOL, sorry, I just had to say that...

[TIGER27]

I love this debate and the controversy it's gonna bring out the best in all the QB's. I love it whoever wins is going to earn the job. Stacy made Fry into an all american maybe he can do it again now.

[tigrs45]

Adkins has been looking really good the past few days. The 7 on 7s are going to be exciting to watch.

:TIG2:

[massillon05]

well none of us have seen what the QB look like this year. you have senior chris willoughby who has been looking pretty good as of what i hear and im sure has improved and its just the start of 7 on7 and we havent even got to scrimmages yet. yeah you do have clark but none of us have seen him through. you also have to remember you have adkins and litman. they are both good. but if anyone should get the job its a senior if he can prove that its his spot. who knows what is going to happen the season is just beginning. all of the boys are neck and neck. i really do think that willoughby and partridge have the upper the hand in all of this.

[mtownwr22]

ill bet you this is the depth chart.. Starter- Adkins or Clark 3rd- Willoughby 4th- Partridge

if you honestly think willo and partridge have the upper hand good for you but they dont have much of a chance anymore.

[massillon05]

well i guess we will all see at the first game who gets the spot now wont we

[massillon catholic]

This sounds like good competition, which will make them all better players.

[mtownwr22]

Well from the looks at the practice today they all looked about that same.. i couldnt tell if it was a bad day for Clark and Adkins or a good day for Willo and Partridge. It is good competition.

[Kamd50]

ALL of these guys are quite talented. On any given day, one performs better than the other. Thank goodness we have qualified coaches to make the decision. Let's just let them do their job and trust that they know what they are doing. No matter who does get the initial "start", somebody isn't going to be happy, and understandably so. But it's our job as fans to support ALL of the guys and have faith in them and the coaches.

:gotigers:

[Red50Go]

Great points Kamd50. Stacy does have some experience there, lol. I was not there and not to single him out but reading the on-line article how could anyone NOT be impressed w/ 8-11, 160 yds, & 4 TD's, by a SOPH! I assume he is Ty's son? I dont care who starts and trust Stacy 100%, just that it is GREAT knowing the future is bright at that position for the next 3 years. :thumbsup:

And like Stacy always says, the backup QB can and often does make or break a season at some point so ALL need to be prepared to be counted on, no matter who starts.

[massillon catholic]

Great points Kamd50. Stacy does have some experience there, lol. I was not there and not to single him out but reading the on-line article how could anyone NOT be impressed w/ 8-11, 160 yds, & 4 TD's, by a SOPH! I assume he is Ty's son? I dont care who starts and trust Stacy 100%, just that it is GREAT knowing the future is bright at that position for the next 3 years. :thumbsup:

And like Stacy always says, the backup QB can and often does make or break a season at some point so ALL need to be prepared to be counted on, no matter who starts.

Excellent point! With our schedule, the 3rd string QB could be the starter before everything is over with.

[Red50Go]

Excellent point! With our schedule, the 3rd string QB could be the starter before everything is over with.

I can think of many instances. 83 was a state title caliber team but Dewitz went out vs Garfield which became our only loss and kept us out of the playoffs. Late 70's when we lost to Padua. 2 years ago Weisand stepped up against Iggy when Huth got hurt and I think really propelled us the rest of the way.

[proud to be]

After the season starts, I think a lot of people are gonna realize just how good Bobby Huth was ! He may not have been the flashiest QB, but he managed the game well, and made GOOD decisions, and WON games.

You KNOW how I hate to agree with you Dawg.... BUT you couldn't be more right. I loved watching Bobby play for a lot of reasons, but most of all it was because he was so PROUD TO BE (like how I did that) the Tiger QB, he played every game like he dreamed about it from the time he was a kid. OH yeah............... maybe that's because he did.

Bobby was the embodiment of Massillon Tiger Football!!:tig:

Whoever gets the job has big shoes to fill!!:ERS2:

[Kamd50]

Great points Kamd50. Stacy does have some experience there, lol. I was not there and not to single him out but reading the on-line article how could anyone NOT be impressed w/ 8-11, 160 yds, & 4 TD's, by a SOPH! I assume he is Ty's son?

Yes, he is impressive and yes, it is Coach Partridge's son. I would think though, that he would be more likely to be the QB for our JV team; but who knows? We are very lucky to have the QB position that we are in. Heck, for the boys' sakes, I wish they could all start. But as has been said, each of them could be crucial to this season in any given moment. I wish the best of luck to all of them!

[longtimefirsttime]

From Todd Porter's weekly prep notes column (the usual TP disclaimer applies):
"The only thing Tom Stacy has to go on is a handful of camp days and two 7-on-7 passing scrimmages, but Massillon's head coach has a rough depth chart at quarterback. Stacy is trying to replace two-year starter Bobby Huth, who lead the Tigers to a 20-7 record, including a Division I state runner-up in 2005. Stacy said Mike Clark, a transfer from Akron Hoban, has a slight lead at the starting position. "But it's still early, and everyone still has a chance to win it," Stacy said. Clark is competing with Tim Adkins, Robert Partridge and Chris Willoughby. Stacy has been impressed with Partridge, a sophomore. "

The entire column can be read here.
http://cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=367482&Category=17&fromSearch=yes&subCategoryID=0

[DAWGH8R]

You KNOW how I hate to agree with you Dawg.... BUT you couldn't be more right. I loved watching Bobby play for a lot of reasons, but most of all it was because he was so PROUD TO BE (like how I did that) the Tiger QB, he played every game like he dreamed about it from the time he was a kid. OH yeah............... maybe that's because he did.

Bobby was the embodiment of Massillon Tiger Football!!:tig:

Whoever gets the job has big shoes to fill!!:ERS2:

About week 3 this year, how many people in the stands are gonna say :

"You know what, that Bobby Huth was a pretty good quarterback. I guess I just took for granted , the things he could do !!"

I hope that someone "steps up" soon, so that we can get ONE GUY to take the majority of the reps.

[pyromaniac]

About week 3 this year, how many people in the stands are gonna say :

"You know what, that Bobby Huth was a pretty good quarterback. I guess I just took for granted , the things he could do !!"

While I really enjoyed watching Bobby play, the hope this year and every year is that by week 3 we are saying "What was that QB from last year's name? This (insert name) this year can really play."

[LakeCountyTiger]

I hope everyone is saying "wow this OL is so good all 4 QB's and maybe even LakeCountyTiger could lead this team." Honestly, it's a good situation to have a few good choices, competition always makes you better. I'm sure in the next two weeks one of them will have an edge....

[Red50Go]

Bobby was great. How he performed at his size was pretty amazing. It may be awhile before we see a better pure passer but doesn't mean the position cant/wont improve. Depends on the scheme. The great teams lately have QB's who can run. (As we have painfully seen the last 2 years). We haven't had that dimension for awhile. Some people hate platooning but maybe? we will have a 2 headed monster this year depending on the situation. I heard Clark really has some wheels, and the others I think are more mobile also. Stacy says we will be more of a running team anyway.

[massillon catholic]

I'll never forget Bobby taking those late, cheap shots at Iggy and still getting up for the next play until he took one too many and Weisand had to come in and put on his magic show. The kids had guts! Oh, and don't forget the cheap one he took at Moeller last year. That was one of the most blatant cheap shots at the head I've ever seen and NO PENALTY!

[RRanger]

hahaha yahhh well massfan3 you think what you want and we'll see :dance:

The race is between Clark and Adkins. Enough said.

IT will be clark

[massillon catholic]

IT will be clark

It may well be Clark, in the end. But, statements like yours do not promote team unity!

[longtimefirsttime]

"Tiger battle about to heat up"
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=18644&Category=2

[mtownwr22]

haha yah it sure seems like it, that or his girlfriend lol.. but Adkins didnt have the greatest practice yesterday.. As of right now Clark has the upper hand. but it could change in the next 11 practices. Everyone still has a chance.

[UnionTiger]

With the 3 headed monster we have in the backfield,all we need is a QB that makes NO MISTAKES. We don't need a superstar trying to over do it. I feel with play action and other misdirection stuff we can pound it down the field. The Buckeyes won a national championship that way and we can win a state championship the same way.:thumbsup:

[Obie Wan]

With the 3 headed monster we have in the backfield,all we need is a QB that makes NO MISTAKES.
The "3 headed monster" is only good if all three are in the game at the same time and the D is guessing as to who gets the ball. It's much less effective if it's a rotation of 3 players running the same play.

[UnionTiger]

I agree. All three should be on the field for Offense atleast 90% of the time. Devoe never left the field at South. KJ is an offensive player only, and JT can play both ways easy. We play the best 11 on both sides than they should be out there. CONDITIONING!!! It does wonders.

[Indiana95]

It may well be Clark, in the end. But, statements like yours do not promote team unity!

I agree with you. However, the thread you started, "Should a Sr. Transfer be a Captain?", doesn't promote team unity either.

[obie7661]

I can think of many instances. 83 was a state title caliber team but Dewitz went out vs Garfield which became our only loss and kept us out of the playoffs. Late 70's when we lost to Padua. 2 years ago Weisand stepped up against Iggy when Huth got hurt and I think really propelled us the rest of the way.

Garfield running back Charles Gladman had a lot to do with that defeat too.

[Obie Wan]

Garfield running back Charles Gladman had a lot to do with that defeat too.
I dunno; Garfield only scored 14 points in that game, and Gladman only had 104 yards. As such, I would think that our inability to score points was the more important factor. That, and the TD that we had called back. ;)

[austinsm11]

Wonder if we will see any direct snaps to the Rb's. A few years ago our team down here in NC didn't have a qb, so we lined up 2 Rb's and our Fb in the backfield and just snapped it to them. We made it to the championship game before losing. One of the Rb's had a decent arm, so we could pass if needed.

If the starting qb can run, I think teams will be in trouble.

[TigerVic]

Wonder if we will see any direct snaps to the Rb's. A few years ago our team down here in NC didn't have a qb, so we lined up 2 Rb's and our Fb in the backfield and just snapped it to them. We made it to the championship game before losing. One of the Rb's had a decent arm, so we could pass if needed.

If the starting qb can run, I think teams will be in trouble.

This sounds like Shep's version of the Wing T that he perplexed Warren with.

Maybe just have 4 guys in shotgun formation with one of them being the QB? We could then combine the full-house and the West Coast. Is that legal?

[RRanger]

The whole winter there was rumors of John Hyde and Matt Vick Transfering from Perry.. If one transfered the other would stay and i personally talked to Hyde and he was trying to transfer and someone close to me talked to Vicks dad and he wanted him to transfer. Then we were supposed to be getting another QB from St. Thomas Aquinas, then i also heard Barberton. But since there was SO much talk of Mike Clark thats probably the #1 reason Everyone of those guys didnt come. But imo Clark and Adkins are neck and neck. Neither have an advantage over the other. It will be GREAT competition this summer. I dont think Coach Stacy will decide till after 2-a-days. Dont favor one over the other yet. Theyre both loaded with a bunch of talent but dont let all the talk lead you to believe Mike Clark is an All-American.

clark will get it, with his speed and arm streneth

[massillon catholic]

I agree with you. However, the thread you started, "Should a Sr. Transfer be a Captain?", doesn't promote team unity either.

You are right and I was wrong. I shouldn't have posted it in the manner that I did.

[TigerVic]

That, and the TD that we had called back. ;)


AAARGHHH! Don't remind me! And Currence getting the 15 yard penalty for (rightfully) disputing the call!

[massillon catholic]

Wonder if we will see any direct snaps to the Rb's. A few years ago our team down here in NC didn't have a qb, so we lined up 2 Rb's and our Fb in the backfield and just snapped it to them. We made it to the championship game before losing. One of the Rb's had a decent arm, so we could pass if needed.

If the starting qb can run, I think teams will be in trouble.


New Phila ran that offense a few years back and it worked pretty good for them at the time.

[Obie Wan]

clark will get it, with his speed and arm streneth
Speed and arm strength mean little compared with decision making ability, mental toughness, and the capacity to inspire teammates.

[slider63]

Paul Brown ran that offense at Massillon in the 30's. Slider, out!!!

[RRanger]

Clark is MAYBE 165lbs not even close to 190lbs

clark is 173, i set with his mom and grandpa at practice and that is what they told me

[RRanger]

Clark is MAYBE 165lbs not even close to 190lbs

Clark , i set with his mom and grandpa everyday at practice they told me he was 171, hey i like adkins too, but clark has 4/5speed in the forty and great arm streneth

[STING]

I'm not sure I can believe Mike weighs 171. He doesn't look that heavy. But--does size really matter?

[Obie Wan]

hey i like adkins too, but clark has 4/5speed in the forty and great arm streneth
So frikkin' what? It's great if a kid can throw the ball 80 yards. Unfortunately, most passes only go about 10 or 15 -- and need both touch and accuracy to be completed. And the speed is nice, but other attributes are much more important.

Is he going to try to use that speed by keeping the ball every time he runs the option, or will he pitch to the trailing back who has a better lane? Do speed and arm strength give him the ablity to check off receivers? Do they help him read and recognize defenses? Do they give him the guts to stand in the pocket and take a shot if that's what it takes to deliver the pass? Will they help him to lead his teammates and inspire confidence? Will they make him focus on the next play after a bad call instead of complaining? Will they give him the character to support a teammate after he drops a pass or fumbles?

There are always workout monsters and physical specimans and kids who just plain look good in a uniform. However, we're looking for football players. The best of the latter don't always come from the former.