Simple question on the staff?

[whackapaw]

What does this year's staff look like? There has been alot of talk on the defensive side of the ball with the additions of some former Head Coaches and other key guys, but what does the entire staff look like?

Can someone list the offense and defense by positions? My nephew said that someone has been in the weight room that was a head coach somewhere last year and he will be coaching on the offensive side. That was a big surprise. Is that our new O-Line Coach?

It looks like we will have the most experienced staff around!

:sunny:

TIG-ERS!!!

[massillon catholic]

What does this year's staff look like? There has been alot of talk on the defensive side of the ball with the additions of some former Head Coaches and other key guys, but what does the entire staff look like?

Can someone list the offense and defense by positions? My nephew said that someone has been in the weight room that was a head coach somewhere last year and he will be coaching on the offensive side. That was a big surprise. Is that our new O-Line Coach?

It looks like we will have the most experienced staff around!

:sunny:

TIG-ERS!!!

I heard it was the Head Coach from Triway. Perhaps, TC can help out.

[crackerman]

I heard today that someone else is in the mix for the oline job which would raise MANY eyebrows from Tiger fans. Dont ask me who, just trust me.

[massillon catholic]

I heard today that someone else is in the mix for the oline job which would raise MANY eyebrows from Tiger fans. Dont ask me who, just trust me.


WHO?

[Red50Go]

crackerman, I hate you. Seriously, at least tell us WHY? Surprise? Anger? Joy?

[crackerman]

Ok maybe that wasnt fair for me to leave it that wide open. He coached at Massillon before as an OC and coached last year at a school in our county (not as a head coach). That should help narrow it down. Massillon Catholic loves this guy..lol...jokin. (if Massillon Catholic is who I think he is) That is all you are going to get out of me...from here on out, its up to you guys to figure it out.

[massillon catholic]

Ok maybe that wasnt fair for me to leave it that wide open. He coached at Massillon before as an OC and coached last year at a school in our county (not as a head coach). That should help narrow it down. Massillon Catholic loves this guy..lol...jokin. (if Massillon Catholic is who I think he is) That is all you are going to get out of me...from here on out, its up to you guys to figure it out.


It better not be Battershell!!!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

:biggrin: LOL!

[monte81]

It better not be Battershell!!!

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Will you be that upset if it is? All I want is a guy who can bring the fire to our line to step up and smash some people. Is battershell that bad??

[massillon catholic]

HAHAHAHAHA!!! Will you be that upset if it is? All I want is a guy who can bring the fire to our line to step up and smash some people. Is battershell that bad??


This guy is BAD. Ask any former Tigers that you know who played or coached with him. You can figure out who they are on your own. Just ask around. For some reason him and Jack are real tight. We must be getting to the desperate stages if we are bringing in this guy. I'd rather have claude brown.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Claude Brown? Really?
I think he has a schedule conflict for a few years. LOL!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Actually, for two concurrent two year time frames if I'm not mistaking :scratchchin:

[massillon catholic]

Claude Brown? Really?
I think he has a schedule conflict for a few years. LOL!


He could do better from the "big house" than Battershell could do hands on. I'm hope I'm wrong. Who is it Crackerman?

[MTiger08]

Ouch. LOL :laughing:

[whackapaw]

I know he hasn't coached for a few years, but what about our old buddy JOE Studer? He is good friends with Coach Stacy. I heard rumblings last year that he was a possibility. Yet another former Head man!

[tiger51]

This guy is BAD. Ask any former Tigers that you know who played or coached with him. You can figure out who they are on your own. Just ask around. For some reason him and Jack are real tight. We must be getting to the desperate stages if we are bringing in this guy. I'd rather have claude brown.

I wouldn't say ask any former player???cause I don't think I had a bad experience with him....

[massillon catholic]

I wouldn't say ask any former player???cause I don't think I had a bad experience with him....


I didn't say anything about a "bad experience" I said he can't coach, and he can't. Why do you think he is gone at Glen Oak and was the first to get his walking papers? To his credit, maybe he can work with the O-Line, but he is NO Offensive Coord, PERIOD! Which is what he was here at Massillon and Glen Oak and what I base my opinion.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Then I guess in your opinion, he's similar to Rose in that Rose may be a good LB coach or even D coordinator, but not a good head coach, and in the case of Battershell you think he may be a good OL coach, but not an O coordinator? Is that where you stand on these two coaches?

[massillon catholic]

Then I guess in your opinion, he's similar to Rose in that Rose may be a good LB coach or even D coordinator, but not a good head coach, and in the case of Battershell you think he may be a good OL coach, but not an O coordinator? Is that where you stand on these two coaches?

That would be a partially fair statement. With the exception being, Jack has shown an ability to coach a defense. I haven't seen Battershell show the ability to coach an O-Line. I don't want to say he can't coach the O-Line since I haven't seen him do it. However, from what I have seen, he certainly isn't OC capable at all, especially at this level.
What I'm saying is I dont think Battershell will be a good O-Line coach based on his other performances, but I cant say he is a bad one until I see him do it and fail. I just hate to see him get the chance and fail at Massillon.

[whackapaw]

Can someone please list the coaches by position and how things will be structured? I'll state the obvious! :laugh:

HC: Coach Stacy

OC:

RB:
WR:
TE:
OL:


DC:

DT:
DE:
LB:
DB:

SPEC: ?

:gotigers:

[hitman]

I heard today that someone else is in the mix for the oline job which would raise MANY eyebrows from Tiger fans. Dont ask me who, just trust me.

Could it be Carl Battershell????????????

[hitman]

From what I heard, GlenOak fans rolled out the red carpet for him to leave. They blamed him for ruining the program for the last 6-7 years. He tried to run the spread offense every year and failed. You're talking about a coach who had NO goal-line package for the last 3 years, his goal-line package was the qb sneak. For the sake of Tiger fans, I hope he isn't your coach. Stacy must really be getting desperate.

[massillon catholic]

From what I heard, GlenOak fans rolled out the red carpet for him to leave. They blamed him for ruining the program for the last 6-7 years. He tried to run the spread offense every year and failed. You're talking about a coach who had NO goal-line package for the last 3 years, his goal-line package was the qb sneak. For the sake of Tiger fans, I hope he isn't your coach. Stacy must really be getting desperate.


I hope they put him in the press box with an unplugged headset.

[MassFan3]

From what I heard, GlenOak fans rolled out the red carpet for him to leave. They blamed him for ruining the program for the last 6-7 years. He tried to run the spread offense every year and failed. You're talking about a coach who had NO goal-line package for the last 3 years, his goal-line package was the qb sneak. For the sake of Tiger fans, I hope he isn't your coach. Stacy must really be getting desperate.

Name a better all-around coaching staff. With that being said, I doubt he is very desperate.

Crackerman - where do you get your info from? I have heard nothing of this supposed hire from within the county that will "raise eyebrows". In fact I have heard quite the opposite.

[whackapaw]

:iagree: Name a better all-around coaching staff? But, nobody has names this one for me! :doh: Is it possible for someone to do this simple task for me? Please? I was down at Applebees tonight and someone said that a former QB/WR that was a Head Coach last year up in Summit County is possibly joining our staff next season as well. What a dream team!

[hexumjunkie]

From WHAt I Hear...its Good Ol Keith Wakefield!

[Banks]

Claude Brown? Really?
I think he has a schedule conflict for a few years. LOL!

Work release.

[Banks]

What ever happened to the head coach from
Marlington ?

[massillon catholic]

What ever happened to the head coach from
Marlington ?


He took a job in Pa.

[massillon catholic]

:iagree: Name a better all-around coaching staff? But, nobody has names this one for me! :doh: Is it possible for someone to do this simple task for me? Please? I was down at Applebees tonight and someone said that a former QB/WR that was a Head Coach last year up in Summit County is possibly joining our staff next season as well. What a dream team!

How was he a former QB and WR? Did he throw to himself?

[massillon catholic]

From WHAt I Hear...its Good Ol Keith Wakefield!

I'd take Wakefield over Battershell anytime.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

It's not Wakefield.

[Al.]

How was he a former QB and WR? Did he throw to himself?

Are you saying he played with himself? :scratchchin:

[Tiger Flame]

It sure would be nice to get a good offensive line coach before the summer is over. It is time to get this problem solved as the offensive line was disappointing last year and if we are going to be a good team,we need a great coach. A lot of other teams in the county seem to have no problem in this area. GO TIGERS

[massillon catholic]

Are you saying he played with himself? :scratchchin:


I'm not saying that, but it sounds like whackapaw is.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I'm just waiting for someone from PETA to come on here and go after Whack-a-paw! :smartass:

[longtimefirsttime]

:iagree: Name a better all-around coaching staff? But, nobody has names this one for me! :doh: Is it possible for someone to do this simple task for me? Please?
What a dream team!

As it stood earlier this month.

Tom Stacy-Head Coach, Quarterbacks
Steve Kovacs-Assistant Head Coach,Def. Coordinator, DL
Mike Babics-(was coaching Outside Linebackers)
Al Checca-Inside Linebackers
Jack Rose-Outside Linebackers
Jamey Palma-Secondary,Kicking Game Coordinator
Brian Pachis-Defensive Line
Jeff Falkner-Secondary,Strength
Tyrone Partridge-Running Backs,Strength
Doug Harig-Wide Receivers
Luke Durbin-Tight Ends
Offensive Line Coach-To be determined


Curt Strawder,Desmond Carpenter,Kevin Stacy (help with QB's) Volunteers
Brian Sifferlin-Trainer
Jerry Vance-Equipment

[RRanger]

Ok maybe that wasnt fair for me to leave it that wide open. He coached at Massillon before as an OC and coached last year at a school in our county (not as a head coach). That should help narrow it down. Massillon Catholic loves this guy..lol...jokin. (if Massillon Catholic is who I think he is) That is all you are going to get out of me...from here on out, its up to you guys to figure it out. IS IT JACK ROSE

[obie7661]

Name a better all-around coaching staff. With that being said, I doubt he is very desperate.

1959 Coaches:

Leo Strang
Nick Vrotsos
Ducky Schroeder
Nick Coso
Jack Robb
Hap Lillick

Only 6 coaches!!!

[whackapaw]

Longtimefirst:

Thank you!!! 30+ posts and I got my answer---plus I got my name this morning and it wasn't listed on there.

To answer your question, I guess he started at WR and was a back-up QB that saw no action.

:blah: I think a former Tiger and Griff coach should've took a page out the former WR/QB's book and played with himself a little bit more! :biker:

[Tiger Flame]

Longtimefirsttime- I think you left off Matt Leisure who is a offensive line coach but I still have a problem with that Bulldog tattoo that he has. GO TIGERS--CRUSH McKinley

[siberiantigerman]

Faulkner is gone to work for enterprise. He is not coaching.

[Banks]

I didn't see Hack name on that list nor did I see a Weber.

[massillon catholic]

I thought that Babics was gone also to an Administration job, but I could be wrong. The Bulldog tattoo must go. Phil Mauro used to have a tattoo when we has was at New Phila and when he went to Jackson he was encouraged to get it removed or cover it up, which he did.

[Banks]

I don't think Babics got that job YET , but as we all know things change!

[massillon catholic]

[QUOTE=longtimefirsttime;54963]As it stood earlier this month.

Tom Stacy-Head Coach, Quarterbacks
Steve Kovacs-Assistant Head Coach,Def. Coordinator, DL
Mike Babics-(was coaching Outside Linebackers)
Al Checca-Inside Linebackers
Jack Rose-Outside Linebackers
Jamey Palma-Secondary,Kicking Game Coordinator
Brian Pachis-Defensive Line
Jeff Falkner-Secondary,Strength
Tyrone Partridge-Running Backs,Strength
Doug Harig-Wide Receivers
Luke Durbin-Tight Ends
Offensive Line Coach-To be determined

Based on the strength of our coaching staff, which is clearly on defense. It seems to me that Stacy is keeping the same mindset that he used in the Whitmer game. That 10 points will win the game. Our O-Line was the worst I had seen in many, many years and it needs to be completely over-hauled. I hope that he isnt waiting too late to get this done.

[whackapaw]

Banks:

Weber is the name I heard this morning. Yet ANOTHER Head Coach! Wow!:weightlift:

[TigerCoach]

Are you talking about Dave Weber at Norton? Great dynasty there! LOL!

[crackerman]

wow, actually an alum?

[hitman]

As it stood earlier this month.

Tom Stacy-Head Coach, Quarterbacks
Steve Kovacs-Assistant Head Coach,Def. Coordinator, DL
Mike Babics-(was coaching Outside Linebackers)
Al Checca-Inside Linebackers
Jack Rose-Outside Linebackers
Jamey Palma-Secondary,Kicking Game Coordinator
Brian Pachis-Defensive Line
Jeff Falkner-Secondary,Strength
Tyrone Partridge-Running Backs,Strength
Doug Harig-Wide Receivers
Luke Durbin-Tight Ends
Offensive Line Coach-To be determined


Curt Strawder,Desmond Carpenter,Kevin Stacy (help with QB's) Volunteers
Brian Sifferlin-Trainer
Jerry Vance-Equipment

Matt Leisure is the current o-line coach

[hitman]

Name a better all-around coaching staff. With that being said, I doubt he is very desperate.

Crackerman - where do you get your info from? I have heard nothing of this supposed hire from within the county that will "raise eyebrows". In fact I have heard quite the opposite.

Like the saying goes " too many chiefs and not enough indians" we will see. BTW, older coaches don't mean anything to these HS kids.

[whackapaw]

Both Joe Studer and Dave Weber played and coached here in the past. They were Head Coaches at Norton and did a very good job with what they had. They had to deal with pay to play and a horrible administration, not to mention brutal facilities. If you want to know more about his credentials, ask Coach Stacy, Coach Mauro and Coach Studer. I wouldn't judge him on his record at a poor athletic school with no pride. They both come from great families that bleed orange and black! I don't need to say anything about the Studer name! If indeed Dave Weber is coaching at ANY level with the Tigers this is a great move! I wish both of them were back here.

I also heard that little Ryan Shanor was up in Norton with those guys. I wish he was coaching on our staff somewhere as well. We should bring him back to Tigertown.

[longtimefirsttime]

I was going by the names listed in the program at the spring kickoff banquet (and added Rose and Checca). I inadvertently left Leisure off the list. My apologies to Matt.

[Banks]

Are you talking about Dave Weber at Norton? Great dynasty there! LOL!

That would be the Weber I am talkin about.

[mtownwr22]

HC: Tom Stacy

Asst.HC: Steve Kovacs

OC: Tom Stacy

QB: Tom and Kevin Stacy
RB: tyrone partridge
WR: doug harig, curt strawder, des carpenter, brett marshall
TE: luke durbin
OL: matt leisure


DC: steve kovacs

DT: brian pachis, kovacs
DE: pachis, kovacs
ILB: Al Checca
OLB: Jack Rose
DB: Jamey Palma

SPEC: Palma

im not sure what webber coaches. maybe RBs?
I think i got everyone there

[pigskinmccarthy]

I hope Hack's name will be added to this list soon.

HC: Tom Stacy

Asst.HC: Steve Kovacs

OC: Tom Stacy

QB: Tom and Kevin Stacy
RB: tyrone partridge
WR: doug harig, curt strawder, des carpenter, brett marshall
TE: luke durbin
OL: matt leisure


DC: steve kovacs

DT: brian pachis, kovacs
DE: pachis, kovacs
ILB: Al Checca
OLB: Jack Rose
DB: Jamey Palma

SPEC: Palma

I think i got everyone there

[crackerman]

4 Wr coaches? really? I know not all are paid BUT 4 wr coaches?

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Cracker! That is interesting isn't it.
So if we go with a 5 wide offense the defenses are going to have to try to figure out who the WR is that doesn't have a coach and cover the other 4! Brilliant :wow:

[massillon catholic]

Cracker! That is interesting isn't it.
So if we go with a 5 wide offense the defenses are going to have to try to figure out who the WR is that doesn't have a coach and cover the other 4! Brilliant :wow:

I thought the plan was a full-house backfield. I'm getting all screwed up now.

[1600TigerFan]

Offense ? I just figured our defense would do the scoreing...............

[TigerVic]

From WHAt I Hear...its Good Ol Keith Wakefield!

Good- I suppose Wakefield could be our recruiting coordinator. :laughing:

[austinsm11]

That would be ironic if it is wakefield

[The Butler]

Regardless of what you may think of him while he was at Perry, he would make a good O-line coach. He got alot out of some undersized kids while running the Wing-P at Perry.

[massillon catholic]

Regardless of what you may think of him while he was at Perry, he would make a good O-line coach. He got alot out of some undersized kids while running the Wing-P at Perry.

I can't stand the man personally, but would take him as an O-Line coach. Perry always had good, quick O-Lineman. Kind of opposite of Rose. I like the guy but dont think he's a good head coach. I do however, think he is a good defensvice coach. Whatever happened to Joe Studer? I always thought he did a damn good job. Don't hear his name mentioned, anymore.

[austinsm11]

Regardless of what you may think of him while he was at Perry, he would make a good O-line coach. He got alot out of some undersized kids while running the Wing-P at Perry.

I agree. Perry has always been tough even with their lack of a bigger line as well as athletes.

[monte81]

Faulkner is gone to work for enterprise. He is not coaching.

WRONG!! Faulkner is at Glenoak coaching DB's with GArcia. Friday my brother starts assisting him until he leaves for UT at the end of the month.

[Red50Go]

Regardless of what you may think of him while he was at Perry, he would make a good O-line coach. He got alot out of some undersized kids while running the Wing-P at Perry.

That is true Butler. But that is the nature of the wing-t. It is more about deception and execution. You dont need big guys. We ran it a few years ourselves...w/ 170# guards etc.

Trouble is....we dont run the wing-t. Does he know anything else? (Like any pass protection schemes, lol)?

[MassFan3]

4 Wr coaches? really? I know not all are paid BUT 4 wr coaches?


Go watch workouts and see how many WRs we have!!!! lol

Seriously though, Coach Harig is the full-time WR Coach and Carpenter/Strawder are volunteers, which means that they are not always at practice each and every day (because they have other jobs/priorities, etc.)

[hitman]

WRONG!! Faulkner is at Glenoak coaching DB's with GArcia. Friday my brother starts assisting him until he leaves for UT at the end of the month.

After speaking to my fellow Hoover people, Faulkner is helping out at Glenoak with the DB's but I do believe he did take a job b/c he coudn't live on what he was getting the past couple of years. I have been a Hoover booster for the last 15 years and for some reason I hope that GlenOak will become a decent team b/c as close as the two schools are, it is a great neighborhood rivalry, except for the previous GlenOak coach who was 0-9 vs Hoover, there hasn't been a rivalry. From what I was told he is helping Massillon's former baseball coach, coach dobran, who is the full-time DB coach on Garcia's staff at GlenOak. I did here that some former Tigers might be making a visit over there for help and support to Garcia and Faulkner, that's great to hear that they will go over there and do that. Good Luck to Garcia and to the college-bound Tigers!

[hitman]

Isn't Hack taking over the other DB position? I thought I heard that he was??? What surprised me was hearing that he was going to be a VOLUNTEER! Are you kidding me? Here's a former Tiger, all-ohio, big-ten player, massillon blood but will not get paid b/c of all of these OLDER coaches that are now on the staff with some of them having absolutely no massillon ties getting the stipends. Now you tell me if that is right? I know its not massillon but over here at Hoover Hertler would never do that to a former hoover player/alumni who wanted to coach. That just shocks me!

[hitman]

After speaking to my fellow Hoover people, Faulkner is helping out at Glenoak with the DB's but I do believe he did take a job b/c he coudn't live on what he was getting the past couple of years. I have been a Hoover booster for the last 15 years and for some reason I hope that GlenOak will become a decent team b/c as close as the two schools are, it is a great neighborhood rivalry, except for the previous GlenOak coach who was 0-9 vs Hoover, there hasn't been a rivalry. From what I was told he is helping Massillon's former baseball coach, coach dobran, who is the full-time DB coach on Garcia's staff at GlenOak. I did here that some former Tigers might be making a visit over there for help and support to Garcia and Faulkner, that's great to hear that they will go over there and do that. Good Luck to Garcia and to the college-bound Tigers!

Sorry GlenOak was 1-9 vs Hoover during JR's tenure

[massillon catholic]

Isn't Hack taking over the other DB position? I thought I heard that he was??? What surprised me was hearing that he was going to be a VOLUNTEER! Are you kidding me? Here's a former Tiger, all-ohio, big-ten player, massillon blood but will not get paid b/c of all of these OLDER coaches that are now on the staff with some of them having absolutely no massillon ties getting the stipends. Now you tell me if that is right? I know its not massillon but over here at Hoover Hertler would never do that to a former hoover player/alumni who wanted to coach. That just shocks me!


There are many former Tigers that should be in Massillon, IMO.