Who will be the new BASEBALL COACH ??

[DAWGH8R]

This surely will be a topic of interest. Will it be dealt with this school year or next ??

Could Ridgely be back in the mix ?? Will McArthur return to the team ?? Will an outsider be persuaded to jump aboard ?? Or could an ex-player to be named later :poke: , ( not saying at this time ), be the front runner ??

Interesting scenario , I'm sure !!!

[Banks]

This surely will be a topic of interest. Will it be dealt with this school year or next ??

Could Ridgely be back in the mix ?? Will McArthur return to the team ?? Will an outsider be persuaded to jump aboard ?? Or could an ex-player to be named later :poke: , ( not saying at this time ), be the front runner ??

Interesting scenario , I'm sure !!!


My vote is for Hack !

[1600TigerFan]

Is he volunteering for this position too ?

[Banks]

Is he volunteering for this position too ?

That would be a paying job. Since there is an opening.

[CarlE]

Pay me $250,000/year and I'll come do it. Otherwise, my vote is for Hack-Man.

[ForeverTwirl06]

what about Andrew Marks? he was a former player..and was very good from what i understand and he currently teaches in the system.. hmmm I think he'd be a good prospect for the job!

[mike_da_man13]

i think the best head coach in the area now (without coach dobes lol) would have to be ted gustoff and you have to believe he wants the massillon job bad

[Banks]

I would have to say Ted Gustoff would be ideal for the job. I don't know why he didn't come to my mind but he would be my front runner.

[tig62]

Ted used to be my neighbor and I had a chance to talk to him several weeks ago at a local eatery; he would be very interested in the Massillon job.

[tiger74]

hopefully we can get a coach that is able to take are team futher into the playoffs. It is really getting old to be one and done. have they even decided when they will be getting the interviews started? or maybe a date to have all applications in by?

[sly4458]

Ted would be a good pick. and i think he would and should keep andrew marks. i think that would be a good start to the baseball staff. hope they get this done soon.

[DB135]

Jamie Marceric or BJ Payne

[Chubby Tiger]

Ted Gustoff if he applies should be handed the job. I trained under Ted for a few years and he really knew his stuff. He is a great guy that would an asset for the program and would take them to the next level.

[DB135]

Before you hand anyone the job I would check their background carefully. Mr. Guscoff has a solid background in both varsity and summer baseball as well as being a popular private instructor. I believe his initial tenure here didn't end on a positive note although being on the new ADs staff previously couldn't hurt his chances.

[massillon catholic]

Before you hand anyone the job I would check their background carefully. Mr. Guscoff has a solid background in both varsity and summer baseball as well as being a popular private instructor. I believe his initial tenure here didn't end on a positive note although being on the new ADs staff previously couldn't hurt his chances.


I'm sure Guscoff would be a good coach. However, as you say check their background's carefully. Ted has had two baseball academies go belly-up and some other financial woes that I am aware of personally. IMO, this certainly wouldn't disqualify him, but he shouldn't be handed any financial responsibilities.

[mike_da_man13]

I'm sure Guscoff would be a good coach. However, as you say check their background's carefully. Ted has had two baseball academies go belly-up and some other financial woes that I am aware of personally. IMO, this certainly wouldn't disqualify him, but he shouldn't be handed any financial responsibilities.

are you serious?
yea how dare he build a baseball training facility in massillon how dumb could he be he should know that baseball doesnt matter to anyone in the city of massillon :down:

ive worked with him and from a coaching stand point he makes you a better player a more confident player he's a great hitting coach and a good pitching coach.

[massillon catholic]

are you serious?
yea how dare he build a baseball training facility in massillon how dumb could he be he should know that baseball doesnt matter to anyone in the city of massillon :down:

ive worked with him and from a coaching stand point he makes you a better player a more confident player he's a great hitting coach and a good pitching coach.

As I said, I'm sure he would be a good coach at Massillon.

[OTC TIGER]

I'll come and do it since I will be unemployed

Signed, Joe Torre :jestera:

[muc18]

I personally gained loads of experiance from ted and feel that he would be perfect for the job. I have also talked to him on more than one occasion, in which he asked me to notify him if the massillon job was opening up. So I am sure you will see him throw his name in the mix.

[tiger4life]

Ted would be the first HS coach that has a lot of interest in the little leagues. I think he would have a lot of great ideas about how we could better organize our youngsters and get a real baseball feeder here in Massillon.

[CarlE]

I'll come and do it since I will be unemployed

Signed, Joe Torre :jestera:

THAT was funny.

[UnionTiger]

From my understanding the position will be filled next school year sometime in the fall. The Board is only doing seasonal hiring now because the focus on teaching, administration, and support staff hirings are first priority. Not saying that it is not of importance but the immediate needs are the others for mentioned.
My take on the baseball job would be someone that will work with both the Little League and Hot Stove organizations. They have been at odds the passed few years and they need a leader that will mesh the two so our kids continue to grow in the baseball program. I have played, coached, umpired and helped in other ways for both organizations, and it is the kids that are here to grow. Some parents use the position they hold such as coach or board member in the wrong way, therefore creating problems. The Head coach should have a clinic for all coaches and members of each group and review what he would like to have taught. He should have a plan for each group or atleast work with the one they may already have in place.
I see that the key age that we seem to lose most of our players is at 13 and 14. Why? They lose interest, didn't get to play much, had coach issues, most of all lack the passion of the game. (fun)
The Head coach needs to be and make others accountable for the fundamentals to be taught at every level. I have witnessed several youth games in my day and I can not believe the lack of the basics not being taught. Or just not holding the kid responsable for listening when being taught. This will carry over to each age level so that when they do get to the High School, time is not wasted going over teaching basics that should have been implamented earlier. Again I said teaching them, not that as a coach you don't review them daily but by this level other parts of the game need to be addressed.
Summer ball for the older groups always seems to run into football. Again I have been there, so what is the solution? Hot Stove to me is a great way for a kid to play 35 to 40 games and still be finished in time for the major start of football season. We have had a couple State Champs in the past with Hot Stove. Travel teams are great for those that can afford them and more power to those that can. Well I have gone on long enogh. I wish the next coach luck and a helping hand if needed. Go Tigers!!

[FootballFan]

Look for AD Ridgely to hire his son as baseball coach. Politics are always at play in Massillon.

[CarlE]

Look for AD Ridgely to hire his son as baseball coach. Politics are always at play in Massillon.

In Massillon? I hate to break this to you but politics are in play EVERYWHERE.

[orangeblood]

In Massillon? I hate to break this to you but politics are in play EVERYWHERE.Yes, and UNLIKE CarlE, some of us know something about GOOD politics.:laughing: :laughing:

[DragonTigerNemesis]

In Massillon? I hate to break this to you but politics are in play EVERYWHERE.

Save your breath.
You're talking to someone that posts with opinions like that of a twenty-year-old girl.

:kungfu:

[massillon catholic]

Save your breath.
You're talking to someone that posts with opinions like that of a twenty-year-old girl.

:kungfu:

Agreed!

[MTown]

Look for AD Ridgely to hire his son as baseball coach. Politics are always at play in Massillon.

What's your axe to grind? Why worry about Massillon from all the way down there in "Alabama"? Or is that Alabama Ave? And weren't you just complaining about us not hiring a Massillon guy for an admin job?

[massillon catholic]

What's your axe to grind? Why worry about Massillon from all the way down there in "Alabama"? Or is that Alabama Ave? And weren't you just complaining about us not hiring a Massillon guy for an admin job?

MTown: You are onto something here. The Alabama location is interesting. I believe that an applicant for the AD job lives on Alabama Ave. This applicant was also involved in testifying against Massillon when Shepas was here. If it is the same person and I don't know if it is or not. But, this would be a perfect example of why you cannot give the AD job to someone who tried to take down the program because of a personal vendetta.

[pete rose]

Sounds like it won't be Andrew Marks as he was not hired for an early childhood class which his degree is in. Some school will be lucky when they land him - we will probably read about him and his teams down the road where ever it is he lands.

[DAWGH8R]

Thanks for the update Andrew í!!!

[hubman7]

Whether that was Andrew or not is irrelevant. I agree that he will be a very good coach when he gets the necessary experience required to run a program from all angles. He has a great temperment and works well with the kids, a real "baseball guy".

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I think the protocol is to look at candidates that meet all of the criteria within the system first and if there are no candidates deemed "qualified" then they will open up the job to "outsiders".
IMO

[massillon catholic]

I think the protocol is to look at candidates that meet all of the criteria within the system first and if there are no candidates deemed "qualified" then they will open up the job to "outsiders".
IMO


And, that's the way it should be, IMO.

[pete rose]

For the record Pete Rose is not Andrew Marks. If you were to know him Andrew has a lot of class and would not post that he did not get the K-3 job. While he is upset he is moving on. I as his friend registered just the other day to pass on that piece of info since I saw his name in the thread. Also, Andrew would be the first to tell you he is not ready for a head coaching job. I believe most of the prior comments all indicated he would be good for the program in some other capacity besides the head coaching job. With potential experience as an assistant at the high school level coupled with his past success at Bowling Green in running the Club Baseball program and currently assisting Russ Venables with the Abbott Electric team in the Canton Class A League I would suggest he would be on a fast track to a head coaching position in the not to distant future. He just needs to get hired in as a teacher in some school district in order to get the process rolling.

[mike_da_man13]

And, that's the way it should be, IMO.

if we did that with the head coaching position for football it wouldnt stand but for baseball thats ok? i think we should get the best head coach possible not just hand it to a guy who happened to have played little league once 40yrs ago and teaches at the school already i would like to see oberhauser or gustoff get the job

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I could be wrong but I think MC was saying that we SHOULDN'T limit the search for the next BB coach to just within the system.

[massillon catholic]

I could be wrong but I think MC was saying that we SHOULDN'T limit the search for the next BB coach to just within the system.

Thank you, TWBT. You are correct.

[crackerman]

I am being very serious here, I wonder if Keith Herring would be interested again? If you were going to stay in the system, he IS the best baseball guy IN the system.

[massillon catholic]

I am being very serious here, I wonder if Keith Herring would be interested again? If you were going to stay in the system, he IS the best baseball guy IN the system.


What is your position on Ridgely? I always thought he did a good job, IMO.

[MSmitty0720]

I think Dan Oberhauser has a chance too. He may seem to be an underdog but he knows a lot about baseball for being pretty young. He has been my Coach for 3 of the last 4 seasons and 2 of those being summer ball. I'm not sure of our record my 1st year but we finished 2nd in the state tournament. He was my JV coach and we went a remarkable 20-4. Then last summer we didnt do the greatest, not sure of our record but he was still coaching us up, he keeps energy flowing and he is just like one of the players the way he gets you fired up.

[Kamd50]

I think Dan Oberhauser has a chance too. He may seem to be an underdog but he knows a lot about baseball for being pretty young. He has been my Coach for 3 of the last 4 seasons and 2 of those being summer ball. I'm not sure of our record my 1st year but we finished 2nd in the state tournament. He was my JV coach and we went a remarkable 20-4. Then last summer we didnt do the greatest, not sure of our record but he was still coaching us up, he keeps energy flowing and he is just like one of the players the way he gets you fired up.

It must be in the Oberhauser blood, lol! Did he coach the Freshmen also?

[Banks]

I am being very serious here, I wonder if Keith Herring would be interested again? If you were going to stay in the system, he IS the best baseball guy IN the system.

He (Keith Herring) has applied.
How hard would it be to get the job you were fired from back? Funny how when Harring was fired they give the job to Ridgely who later on down the line was fired till he treated to sue the school system for one more year. Now he is a retired teacher who was rehired as the AD.

[TigerCoach]

Keith Herring taught Carl everything he knew about baseball. He would be an EXCELLENT coach!:tig:

[Hack]

He was my coach and I would love to see him coach again. I really enjoyed playing for him and you knew that he cared for his players.

[massillon catholic]

He (Keith Herring) has applied.
How hard would it be to get the job you were fired from back? Funny how when Harring was fired they give the job to Ridgely who later on down the line was fired till he treated to sue the school system for one more year. Now he is a retired teacher who was rehired as the AD.


Refresh me. Wy was he fired?

[Benchboss1]

He (Keith Herring) has applied.
How hard would it be to get the job you were fired from back? Funny how when Harring was fired they give the job to Ridgely who later on down the line was fired till he treated to sue the school system for one more year. Now he is a retired teacher who was rehired as the AD.


I think this post exemplifies the problems that our school system has when it comes to hiring and firing coaches.

[CarlE]

He was my coach and I would love to see him coach again. I really enjoyed playing for him and you knew that he cared for his players.

Look, he PLAYED baseball with me for about 8 years and COACHED TigerCoach and Hack. How much more freaking credentials does the man need. My vote is in for Keith. Although I DID teach him everything he knows about stealing bases!!! Ha ha. Somebody PLEASE tell him I posted that. And then pick him up off the ground from his heart attack!!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Are you sure you meant to word that first sentence the way you did Bruddah?

[CarlE]

Are you sure you meant to word that first sentence the way you did Bruddah?

There, I hope that's better!!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Much! I was begining to think the answer to the question of "why Herring had been fired" was surfacing! :blush2:

[Banks]

Much! I was begining to think the answer to the question of "why Herring had been fired" was surfacing! :blush2:


I honestly don't remember.
Why did they want to fire Ridgely?

I think in both cases it was time for a change.
Not renewing a contact is also known as being fired.

[DB135]

I believe Mr. Herring and Mr. Owens had a disagreement over a practice conflict involving multiple sport players. We all know which sport won out and Keith should have known better.

At least that was the story circulating at the time.

[massillon catholic]

I honestly don't remember.
Why did they want to fire Ridgely?

I think in both cases it was time for a change.
Not renewing a contact is also known as being fired.


Not according to LLRose!

[austinsm11]

Any news on who applied?

[massillon catholic]

Any news on who applied?


I haven't, but there are others on here who follow baseball much closer than I do.

[TigerLover]

Please; give me a break. Don't let the door hit you in the "you know what". Ask the young men that played for "Dobs" - they would have rather played for Tim Ridgely any day of the week. Ridgely is a baseball man. But before that he was a football man. He's a good man - period. Most of the whining was from the parents; "my baby didn't play". Good God, Grow the hell up. I don't know this Guscoff guy personally, but I hope he meets the "QUALIFICATIONS" set up by the Human Resource Professionals at the Massillon City Schools. Oh, excuse me: we don't have any HR folks. Chris Smith left a long time ago and by the way: he wasn't a HR professional either. Public Education in Ohio needs a complete and total overhaul. Again, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :bomb:

[DAWGH8R]

Had Ridgely done thing CORRECTLY, he'd still be the coach.:cool2:

[jbones]

i was wondering why they r taking to long on picking the new baseball coach .I am gonna be a junior next year and i would like to know who it would be sometime this summer instead of having to drag it on in the school year. I know the baseball coach isnt a top priority considering football is the # 1 priority here in massillon. I love ftball too, but it takes them like two days to pick ftball coaches but they wait until the last minute to pick the baseball coach, to me tht makes no sense. I hope we find sumone tht would help baseball be more important in this community then it is right now, but that is just my opinion

[UnionTiger]

What about other past assistant coaches such as Vance, MacArthur, Spicer, Stone, Oberhauser, have they the credentials or any applied.

[mike_da_man13]

Please; give me a break. Don't let the door hit you in the "you know what". Ask the young men that played for "Dobs" - they would have rather played for Tim Ridgely any day of the week. Ridgely is a baseball man. But before that he was a football man. He's a good man - period. Most of the whining was from the parents; "my baby didn't play". Good God, Grow the hell up. I don't know this Guscoff guy personally, but I hope he meets the "QUALIFICATIONS" set up by the Human Resource Professionals at the Massillon City Schools. Oh, excuse me: we don't have any HR folks. Chris Smith left a long time ago and by the way: he wasn't a HR professional either. Public Education in Ohio needs a complete and total overhaul. Again, sorry to be the bearer of bad news. :bomb:

"massillon will never win a state championship in football" ridgley? he may have been a good man but ive heard so many storys i dont know where to start. coach gus is the best hitting coach in the neo im glad u know so much about what your talking about.

[mike_da_man13]

creamer should have gotten ridgleys job
but to get back on topic coach o wouldnt be a bad choice neither would coach gus

[DB135]

"massillon will never win a state championship in football" ridgley? he may have been a good man but ive heard so many storys i dont know where to start. coach gus is the best hitting coach in the neo im glad u know so much about what your talking about.

No other hitting coach's students in the area showed the improvement or got the results that Jeff Hite's did. If I were looking for a hitting coach for private lessons he would be the one I would recommend.

[austinsm11]

Still no word on who even applied?

[Die Hard Eric]

the big question should be "where is the team going to play?".

i drove by the field today and the DREAM project has taken over the outfield and nobody is taking care of the field itself. The field is overgrown and weeds are growing in the infield dirt. it looks really bad.

-dhe

[Kamd50]

They are going to build a new diamond in stadium park.

[jbones]

how the heck can the build a baseball field in tht crappy and swampy staduim park

[jbones]

i dont see why they would want to build a new stadium when the one we have is pretty nice . In my opinion its one of the best baseball fields in ohio. If we do make another baseball field i hope it is as nice as the one we got right now

[Marie]

We do have a nice baseball field, But haven't you realized by now that football is more important than anything else?

It does seem that it will cost a lot and be a lot of work for Stadium Park to become a baseball field.

[jbones]

yeh i kow football is the #1 priority here in massillon. if we just spent half the effort we do in football into baseball we would be in the state finals almost every year because i think we r capible of doin so.

[DAWGH8R]

When baseball has OVER 4000 season ticket holders, you'll see it. Until then, the 100 or so people that come out to support the baseball team, will have to be happy.

[jbones]

i hate to tell u but the baseball games r free

[DAWGH8R]

i hate to tell u but the baseball games r free

Why don't they charge money for the admission, then sell season ticket packages. Than they could make some money !!
That "pocket change" that they make at the concession stand, isn't adding up to much.

[DAWGH8R]

. if we just spent half the effort we do in football into baseball we would be in the state finals almost every year because i think we r capible of doin so.


No matter how much effort " WE " put into baseball, it ultimately falls on the shoulders of the kids on the diamond. Are you saying that THEY don't put forth the correct amount of effort ???

[jbones]

no i am not saying tht us as players do not give the effort tht is needed on the baseball field . i am saying if we spent some time and put money in the baseball program tht people might respect us as both a football and baseball school.

[DAWGH8R]

Sorry Boney, respect isn't something you can buy, it is earned on the field.

If the kids at Massillon can string together a couple of deep runs in the tourney, respect will follow.

[tiger#22]

When baseball has OVER 4000 season ticket holders, you'll see it. Until then, the 100 or so people that come out to support the baseball team, will have to be happy.

Brutally honest post of the year. :iagree:

[mike_da_man13]

the new feild is going to have turf i hear... to bad i graduated before they built it....

[longtimefirsttime]

There are plans for a baseball "Field of Dreams." I'm going to wait to see what materializes before I pass judgement one way or the other.

[MSmitty0720]

The new field is supposed to be nationally ranked, good luck with that. Nobody cares about baseball, people still cared about football when they went 4-6, we got seeded 2 years in a row for baseball we were 18-8 last year while beating Hoover, Glen Oak, and down in Florida we beat a New Jersey team that won state 3 of the last 4 years. Nobody cared i mean we got congratulated and stuff but I do hate to say it Massillon is all about football, nothing else.:doh:

[Dingma608]

shut up smitty lol!

[Kamd50]

I disagree. I care! A lot of us care!

I think one of the biggest problems is the times of the games. Most people are not going to go straight from work to a baseball game in their work clothes. And probably wouldn't be worth it by the time they got home,ate, and changed clothes. And some just may be too darn tired after work all day to sit out in the hot sun! You can't blame people for what their lifestyles dictate. Others have kids to pickup from after school care, etc. It's not like a Friday or Saturday night when people have more time to get ready and are more than likely off the next day and don't need to rest as much. Plus you are competing with girl's softball and track season too.


Besides that, you should play for the love of the game and your school's pride. Don't worry about the rest of it. And if you are good enough, you will more than likely end up getting some kind of scholarship out of it for all of your hard work. And if not, you will always have your experiences, comradare, and memories to take with you for the rest of your life:thumbsup:

[massillon catholic]

Why don't they charge money for the admission, then sell season ticket packages. Than they could make some money !!
That "pocket change" that they make at the concession stand, isn't adding up to much.


All other sports should THANK the football program, as it is FOOTBALL that financially supports the other programs. With this being said, that doesn't mean don't support the other programs. Just keep in mind without football, there would be no other sport programs. Unless, you support pay-to-play or another levy!

[jbones]

Are you dumb?


Football does not help pay for baseball. The baseball booster club and players with the fundraisers help support the baseball program

[proud to be]

originally posted by jbones
Are you dumb?


Football does not help pay for baseball. The baseball booster club and players with the fundraisers help support the baseball program
jbones


Actually you are partially right and partially wrong. All of the varsity sports get a percentage of help from the football team which provides the entire athletic budget in one way or another. The trips and things like that are paid for by the booster club, but the equipment and travel cost to regular season games is provided by the athletic budget.

[jbones]

so football basically supports all of the other sports teams when way or another

[massillon catholic]

Are you dumb?


Football does not help pay for baseball. The baseball booster club and players with the fundraisers help support the baseball program



Key words "HELP support the baseball program. The rest comes from football funds put into the athletic budget.

[jbones]

So i am suppose to believe tht the new orange jerseys that we got last year were paid by the football team

[massillon catholic]

You just don't get it. Maybe you should stay in the classroom a little longer:wall:

[DAWGH8R]

During the'02 and '03 baseball seasons, I took the summers off work and went to almost all the games. It really is a GREAT atmosphere in Massillon to watch a game. Got to see some great kids play the game.

Wish I could have had the sumer off EVERY year. I did see a few more games than usual this year, and though that this years team might make some tourney noise.

Some things don't always pan out. That's baseball. Overall, a real quality group of kids this year. :gogogo:

[Kamd50]

If you can't take the word of a bunch of adults on this forum then you need to go speak to someone like the Athletic Director or one of the coaches so that they can set you straight and you can stop insulting people that are only trying to explain the facts to you.

By the way, most people don't get off of work at 4:30. More like 5 or even 6 o'clock nowadays. And that does not include driving time.

[UnionTiger]

Has anyone heard anything on who applied, or interviews or just anything? Yeah I know it is football season...just was wondering.

[tigerfan2]

any word..

I know this is MASSILLON and I love the TIGERS as much as the next fan, but why are we tearing up the outfield even more by having football on it in right field? I understand the the majority of it will be torn up regarless during contruction, but isnt there a perfectly good space at the Eagles complex to use?

[jbones]

Well I have heard tht we will be getting another baseball field and i have also heard tht Ted Gustoff will be the new coach. i dont know where they would build the other field at. but thts wat i heard

[batiiger]

Mark it down, Teddy will be the next coach. I can promise you he will pour his heart into it. Hopefully he will get the support to get the program on top. He has the "knowledge" just needs everyone's backing.

[uthinkso]

While Ted would make a good coach current players and parents should be aware of current rumors that Ted will bring half a team with him from up north. Hopefully not true. But the way things are anymore it just might be.
If true and you made the team before it may not be possible to do so now.

[DAWGH8R]

This should be closed until December. There will be no new developements until after that.

[massillon catholic]

This should be closed until December. There will be no new developements until after that.

How about February.

[mike_da_man13]

While Ted would make a good coach current players and parents should be aware of current rumors that Ted will bring half a team with him from up north. Hopefully not true. But the way things are anymore it just might be.
If true and you made the team before it may not be possible to do so now.

im so sick of all this transfer bull crap theres a reason why they are playing over the massillon kid. the best should play and if the hoban kids are willing to follow him all the way to massillon that shows you what kind of coach he is!

[massillon catholic]

im so sick of all this transfer bull crap theres a reason why they are playing over the massillon kid. the best should play and if the hoban kids are willing to follow him all the way to massillon that shows you what kind of coach he is!


Its the entitlement mentality.