Coach Calls for Confederate Flag's Removal

[obie7661]

http://sports.aol.com/ncaafb/story/_a/coach-calls-for-confederate-flags/20070414190109990001?cid=592

[DAWGH8R]

Why would they not be allowed to address their heritage ?? What happened to freedom of whatever ...............??????

[CarlE]

Let me tell you how STUPID these people REALLY are. The Marriott that I stay at is right around the corner from the Statehouse on Assembly Ave. A few years ago, the blacks went NUTS over the fact that the State flag (with the Confederate emblem) was flying ON the Statehouse. Now, keep in mind that it was flying on TOP of the Statehouse and you would have needed a freaking telescope to see what was actually on the flag. So what did the State lawmakers do? Why, they pulled that dang flag off the Statehouse, built about a 20 foot flagpole and stuck that jim-dandy right out there front and center on Assembly St. in FRONT of the Statehouse for all the world to see. I laugh every time I pass the dang thing.

[monte81]

The citizens in Soouth Carolina have been fighting over the flag for years. The NCAA and other organizations have banned tournament play and will not allow them to host any playoff games in the state. It depends on how you look at the situation--is the flag worth the millions of dollars the state loses every year from revenue and businesses refusing to come in for anything!!!

Carle--- its not about heritage when its continued hatred and disrespect because of what the flag stood for!!! Don't get me wrong I really do not give a darn but its 2007 and not 1920. The refusal of the old guard to change is hurting America's growth and racial situation IMO!!

[Spize]

The citizens in Soouth Carolina have been fighting over the flag for years. The NCAA and other organizations have banned tournament play and will not allow them to host any playoff games in the state. It depends on how you look at the situation--is the flag worth the millions of dollars the state loses every year from revenue and businesses refusing to come in for anything!!!

Carle--- its not about heritage when its continued hatred and disrespect because of what the flag stood for!!! Don't get me wrong I really do not give a darn but its 2007 and not 1920. The refusal of the old guard to change is hurting America's growth and racial situation IMO!!

Not that I am a fan of flying a flag for a country that doesn't exist, but I do think it wrong when people say that flag stands for hate. It doesn't, the civil war and the southern states leaving the union had a hell of a lot more reasons than slavery. In fact if you read history, most of the reasons people were most up in arms about had NOTHING to do with slavery.

Besides if you want to associate a flag to what the people of the country did under it, then the stars and stripes has a hell of a lot more blood on it than the stars and bars.

[monte81]

Not that I am a fan of flying a flag for a country that doesn't exist, but I do think it wrong when people say that flag stands for hate. It doesn't, the civil war and the southern states leaving the union had a hell of a lot more reasons than slavery. In fact if you read history, most of the reasons people were most up in arms about had NOTHING to do with slavery.

Besides if you want to associate a flag to what the people of the country did under it, then the stars and stripes has a hell of a lot more blood on it than the stars and bars.

I said I didn't care what flag you fly wherever or on what building but just gave you the people's argument. However racial tension and slavery is one of the most recalled events and it stands out regardless of how you look at it. That's what I meant in the Imus thread about "white sheets turned into suits--- healing is forgiveness and the willingness to change but how can you heal when you continue to stick it my their faces! Someone feels the flags are wrong and in the South racial tension is always high so it might be in the best interest of the govt. to remove the flags.NO FLAG CAN REPRESENT ME--- I DO THAT BY MY ACTIONS!!! However sometimes I feel Massillon residents(not all) still have colored glasses on from reading comments and posts and those glasses don't represent the tigers!!!

[Spize]

I said I didn't care what flag you fly wherever or on what building but just gave you the people's argument. However racial tension and slavery is one of the most recalled events and it stands out regardless of how you look at it. That's what I meant in the Imus thread about "white sheets turned into suits--- healing is forgiveness and the willingness to change but how can you heal when you continue to stick it my their faces! Someone feels the flags are wrong and in the South racial tension is always high so it might be in the best interest of the govt. to remove the flags.NO FLAG CAN REPRESENT ME--- I DO THAT BY MY ACTIONS!!! However sometimes I feel Massillon residents(not all) still have colored glasses on from reading comments and posts and those glasses don't represent the tigers!!!

Personally I think anyone- white, black, hispanic, asian, whatever - that still sees race when they talk to someone is ignorant. In this day and age that is completely not needed. Also people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are promoting racism. Was Imus wrong, hell ya, should he have been fired and should it have been the big deal it was, no. I think it is something that needs to be addressed though, but not how you may think. I think people in this country are getting sick of being called racist. In this day and age of so much media and so many things being recorded this type of thing is going to happen more and more often. You are having people saying something that can be interpreted 2 different ways, and of course the drama kings and queens in the media are going to push the way that makes it a story.

This game of GOTCHA needs to end. For instance, Trent Lott was labeled a racist for saying to an old man that things would have been great if he had been elected president. He got blasted because people looked back and found that Strom had run for president under a platform that included segregation. Is that what Trent was talking about, given his record and that he had no prior instances of racist comments, probably not. Yet the attention hounds came out of the woodwork to emphasize the point and he got label a racist. The funniest part was when a congressman that used to be a KKK leader back in the day called for him to resign for being racist!

Trust me, I have met a few racists in my day and they don't hide it so well that they could be in the public eye for 5-10 years and only have one comment slip in that time.

I think it is a witch hunt. I think real racists should be show for how ignorant they really are, but they already have a habit of doing that on their own.

[monte81]

Is cool the flags do not bother me because I keep it moving in the direction i wish to move--ALWAYS. I hope we can get things together for our youth because the majority of our generation are failing them with bad parenting, drugs,under educated communities,etc,... I try to make a differance in my neighborhood but I am one and help is always needed.

Imus-- I never heard of him before this so I cannot speak of his past adventures and T. Hardaway was always a good guy and never had any incidents and was fired also for his gay player comments a few months ago. Duke lacross players wrongly accused, flags--- Maybe some stuff is blown out of porportion and we should try to build better lives not relive the distant past---I dont have all the answers but just try to make my home and environment great for my kids!

[CATS44]

The citizens of the South have a lot to be proud of in the leadership, intelligence, courage, and fighting abilities of their ancestors who fought for the Confederacy.

But the 'heritage' argument doesnt hold water. That same argument was used across the South to justify segregation and what amounted to Apartheid. The 'heritage' argument was used to deny basic rights to American citizens of the 'wrong' color. Heritage in this instance is merely another code word, such as states rights.

The heritage of the South is one of slavery and then Apartheid...it is one of defiance to basic human rights and the United States government.

The Confederate flag may have represented courageous soldiers 150 years ago, but today it is a symbol of defiance to truths that we all now (hopefully) hold dear.

It still has its place...Civil War battlefields, cemetaries, and military museums. Private citizens should certainly be allowed to display it as they choose, per their USA (not CSA) Constitutional right of free speech.

It should not be allowed to be flown on any governmental property not dedicated to the Civil War or its participants.

As for those who truly study history from the time of the First Constitutional Convention, thru the Missouri Compromise, to the firing upon Ft Sumter...slavery was the sole issue of the Civil War, although the war was not originally sold that way by Lincoln. Simply put, no slavery, no Civil War.

[longtimefirsttime]

The Confederate Flags at NASCAR events are "The elephant in the infield."
http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news?slug=dw-confederateflag100906&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

"The Confederate Battle Flag Is Still as Divisive as The War That Spawned It"
http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060122/NEWS/601220426/1289