Tigers lose assistant

[longtimefirsttime]

Special teams coordinator Scott Garcia has been named the new head Coach at GlenOak.
http://cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=348007&r=0&Category=17&subCategoryID=0

In my opinion it was only a matter of time before he received a head coaching opportunity.

[Obie Wan]

Well, I wouldn't want to have a staff full of coaches that no one else wants.

Best of luck to him.

[Kamd50]

More importantly and exciting, who will be filling his shoes:scratchchin:

[sly4458]

hate to see him go. but wish him all the best. great guy and great family man. he will be missed by the young men on our team. hope we get someone as good of a person and coach as he was. wishing you the best scott.

[CarlE]

Good luck to Coach Garcia. Hope to meet you in the playoffs!!

[Tiger Flame]

The new coach at line backer could be Jack Rose and the coach on the offensive line could be Dan Pallante. Pallante would be a great line coach. GO TIGERS

[Red50Go]

Checca is out there too. All in all, I would like to have kept Garcia over all of them but happy to see a good young coach get his wish & move up the ranks.

Good luck Scott! Btw, once you get it together over there, schedule us!

[Al.]

From Todd Porter's Repository story:
Garcia knows what he's getting into. GlenOak is one of the state's most diverse districts. "It's a snapshot of society," said Garcia, who graduated from GlenOak in 1987 and has raised his family in Plain Township. " ... You get all types of cultures and different financial situations."

Comparing Plain Township (left column) to Massillon City School district (right column) per the 2005-2006 data published by the Ohio Department of Education Report card:

Ave daily enrollment 6247 4387
African-American 11.2% 12.8%
American Indian NC NC
Asian .9% .3%
Hispanic .9% .7%
Multi Racial 2.7% 4.2%
White 84.2% 81.8%
Economically Disadvantaged 27.5% 49.0%
Limited English Proficient .3% NC
Students w Disabilitiies 14.4% 18.1%

I will let the analytical posters comment on the differences

[monte81]

Coach Garcia is a well respected defensive mined coach and I wish him the best of luck at his alma matar.

Our loss is the Eagles gain.

[obiefan]

Good Luck to Coach Garcia!

[TigeRon]

Best of Luck Coach Garcia

[MassFan3]

Coach Garcia will do a fine job over there and he is a great person with a great family!

[xtiger]

Hey Coach Garcia, Good Luck at GlenOak! You deserve this opportunity!

[chap]

Best of Luck Coach Garcia!

[longtimefirsttime]

From Todd Porter's weekly prep notes column (the usual TP disclaimer applies):

"Scott Garcia, hired last week to be the head football coach at GlenOak High School, said he anticipates about 75 percent of the current staff being offered jobs on his coaching staff. Don’t be surprised if former GlenOak assistant Mike Christiansen jumps on board. Christiansen and Garcia are friends, and Christiansen still works in the GlenOak district. Another addition could be former Massillon offensive line coach Dave Kaple. He interviewed for the head coaching job at GlenOak, and it was a good way for administrators to get a feel for Kaple as a teacher, should a teaching position open within the district."

The entire column (which includes info on what offense Garcia may run and why he was a favorable candidate) can be read here.
http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=348432&Category=17&fromSearch=yes&subCategoryID=0

[Obie Wan]

The only way that move makes sense for Kaple is with a teaching position included in the package. From a coaching perspective, the change from Massillon to GlenOak (even in the same capacity) is unquestionably a step down.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

I'm going to miss Coach Garcia. A great special teams coach. Best of success to him at GlenOak.

[TigerCoach]

Good luck Coach Garcia! By the way, we need your NO vote in allowing the Tigers in the Federal League, LOL!!

[DAWGH8R]

With all the controversy surrounding "certain" special teams play the last few years, ( Iggy '91, Warren '02 , St X '05) I'm thinking that speacial teams will be highly stressed by whoever takes over the position. :TIG2:

[massillon catholic]

dawgh8r: you are right on with the poor special teams play while garcia was here. Remember the punt treturn for a TD in the championship game and the punt returncoverage last year against moeller. And then there was the sub-par LB play last year. Garcia will be a good Fed League coach, but he's not big time. As far as Kaple goes, he's already gone at Massillon, so Glen Oak will be a step-up.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

dawgh8r: you are right on with the poor special teams play while garcia was here. Remember the punt treturn for a TD in the championship game and the punt returncoverage last year against moeller. And then there was the sub-par LB play last year. Garcia will be a good Fed League coach, but he's not big time. As far as Kaple goes, he's already gone at Massillon, so Glen Oak will be a step-up.


Sorry Pal, but this whole post shows that you don't have a freakin' clue about what's been up with the teams the last two years.

May I suggest that you just sit back and listen till you catch on?

:kungfu:

[Obie Wan]

Remember the punt treturn for a TD in the championship game
I seem to remember that a Tiger hit the X kid dead nuts at about the 30(?) and didn't drop him. Hard to blame that one on coaching.

[massillon catholic]

If the coach tells the punter to kick it out of bounds there's no need to worry about tackling!

[DragonTigerNemesis]

If the coach tells the punter to kick it out of bounds there's no need to worry about tackling!

OK, which coach do you think-or know-made that brilliant call?

Just wondering.

:kungfu:

[massillon catholic]

All that I know, is Garcia was listed as the "special Teams" coach. If the special teams coach doesn't make the calls on special teams, is he really the special teams coach? You can't pick and choose when to take credit and when to deflect criticism.

[OTC TIGER]

If the coach tells the punter to kick it out of bounds there's no need to worry about tackling!

Ideally when kicking a field goal you want the ball to go thru the uprights
unfortunately that doesn't always happen...directional punting is no different
especially at the High School level...special teams play requires a different
mentality from the kids..meaning the use of starters sometimes is not your best special teamers

[massillon catholic]

Are you suggesting that the punter was told to punt the ball out of bounds by the coach and he didn't? I don't want to get into a long debate over Garcia. Although, I agree with many that he is a great guy. I think his coaching is "suspect". He coached LB's and Special Teams... Two glaring weeknesses.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

Are you suggesting that the punter was told to punt the ball out of bounds by the coach and he didn't?

I think he is implying that he was told to punt it out and the he failed to do so.

I was there, and close enough to see that play.

I seriously doubt that he was told to kick it out.

:kungfu:

[massillon catholic]

Fair enough.

[crackerman]

I think his coaching is "suspect". He coached LB's and Special Teams... Two glaring weeknesses.


So last year he made the linebacking core one of the best in the state led by Mccall (a group that were not returning starters, McCall didnt even play the year before), then this past year, he took a group of guys who had never started, and possibly the worst core of linebackers to begin a season (leading into 2-a-days) in about 15 years and made them into playmakers including Scassa'a monster game versus McKinley and yet his coaching is suspect? 2 years ago , the fake punt called by him that led to beating Ignatius, was that suspect?
Your posts and ignorance are starting to show that you do not know as much about football as you might think you do.
I think the most glaring weakness on this thread is your inability to spell weakness correctly.

[crackerman]

Thank you for making my point. Have a great night.

[massillon catholic]

You too!

[SECTION13PBTS]

any update on coaching replacements?

[OTC TIGER]

Antonio may not have been the best linebacker to come through here in a while but IMO we need more players like # 47...ones that embrace the tradition of being a Massillon Tiger and not taking it for granted....his enthusiasm for the game was great to see and watch...you know, it's O.K. to wear your emotions on your sleeve..I wish more of our Tigers would show some display of emotion and not just when YOU make the play but also when your teammate does or even on the sideline or better yet in school...

:gogogo:

[massillon catholic]

Antonio may not have been the best linebacker to come through here in a while but IMO we need more players like # 47...ones that embrace the tradition of being a Massillon Tiger and not taking it for granted....his enthusiasm for the game was great to see and watch...you know, it's O.K. to wear your emotions on your sleeve..I wish more of our Tigers would show some display of emotion and not just when YOU make the play but also when your teammate does or even on the sideline or better yet in school...

:gogogo:

As I've said in other threads, he was a great "special teams" player and played with great intensity. He was not, however, an Inside LB by any means. He reminded me of Gary Young who played great as a special teams player and as a sub at other positions. I certainly hope Scassa's future is better than that of Young.

[DAWGH8R]

I thought that Scassa played better as the season grew. Unfortunately, we had to throw him in the position of ILB, where he was undersized.

However, any other player with his HT/WT, couldn't have done nearly as well at that position. His heart and determination was incredible, but only make up for so much. The most evident, was the Mentor game, where those 2 HUGE guards OWNED the middle of our defense.

I believe that # 47 got all that he could have, with the tools he had to work with. Even undersized, he played EVERY down like a TIGER !!:weightlift:

[OTC TIGER]

but I just don't understand the coaches reasoning or lack thereof of not trying others at ILB. It was crystal clear in the scrimmages that Scassa wasn't getting the job done.

I'll tell you what...Call Stacy and Kovacs maybe..just maybe..they'll tell you why :notlistening:

Furthermore it was crystal clear at the end of the season defense WAS NOT
THE PROBLEM :wall:

[massillon catholic]

I'll tell you what...Call Stacy and Kovacs maybe..just maybe..they'll tell you why :notlistening:

Furthermore it was crystal clear at the end of the season defense WAS NOT
THE PROBLEM :wall:


The defense wasn't the problem? Were you at the Whitmer game? They were an average Fed League team and their QB ran all over the place. AND, that is about as close to the "end of the season" as you can get!

[OTC TIGER]

MC..You obviously don't get it..I'm not going to rip our football team but I
will tell you that our defense played well enough to win..they gave up a whopping 14 points...one drive was whole 15 yards set up by an unforced error..the other was a Hail Mary throw on 4th down for God's sake...you want more...we held McK 2 weeks earlier to 7 freakin points and they racked up 49 on Whitmer's A$$ the following week..any knowlegeable observer could figure
this out..DO YOU GET IT NOW...because I'm done with this :bs:

[monte81]

IMO the defense gave up to much up the middle but that was not our players fault ALL THE TIME. From experience I know if you are undersized up front and in the middle you have to come with blitz packages. We sat back and let teams run at us instead of forcing them to change their scemes we were constantly changing our scemes. Until we brought our safeties up 7 yards off the ball we couldn't stop the run. FYI---Scassa was blitzing in the McKinley game without consent from coaches from what the team told me and got hammered by coaches on the sideline. However I have been talking trash about our special teams play for 7 years now!! I still ask why are we using mostly backups on our coverage teams??? This scenerio seems to backfire these days. In the past you could find 11 non starters to go down field with wreckless intentions for the good of the team but nowadays kids are wanting the ball and frown on special teams-- some still love it but not like in the past. I have never not been on the special teams coverage units and that is some of the most fun hitting on the field. I could get a flush hit or get 2 or 3 in matter of seconds---GUNNER is the best spot!!!

Hey---:weightlift: new year and we start 0-0 so let's get ready for a fun ride in 2007 and hope our team is up for a 15 game season!!!!! We have a ILB who fills holes for sure this year!!!

[massillon catholic]

You've made your point (such as it is) well known, and you've made it in a tactless and unnecessarily personal manner.

It's time for you to STFU.

If you read my previous post, I didn't mention any players name until another poster did. Obviously, that poster must have known who I was referring too by his play on the field. Anyway, that was last year. its time to move on.

[Kamd50]

. Anyway, that was last year. its time to move on.

Yes gentlemen, PLEASE do! These KIDS are getting ready to graduate after 4 years of representing Massillon with pride and hard work the best they could. Let's send them off with a little respect and thankfulness for the long hours the put in, injuries and bruises they sustained, and for never giving up.
Thanks fellas, even to the ones that never got to see any playing time on the team, but only served as punching bags in practice for our starters and were always there to support their team!

:TIG2: :ERS2:

[crackerman]

If you read my previous post, I didn't mention any players name until another poster did. Obviously, that poster must have known who I was referring too by his play on the field. Anyway, that was last year. its time to move on.

Hey chucklehead, the reference was made by me about a kid being turned into a playmaker by the former asst. coach you were bashing. Dont try to turn this around. Yes I mentioned the kids name, said he turned into a playmaker thanks in part to a very good coach. You took the liberties to blast the kid on what you thought were his downfalls. Don't try to turn this on me, You're to new to this site to try some crap like that. I have wrote better posts in the snow with urine than you have been able to provide for 2 weeks.

[massillon catholic]

Hey chucklehead, the reference was made by me about a kid being turned into a playmaker by the former asst. coach you were bashing. Dont try to turn this around. Yes I mentioned the kids name, said he turned into a playmaker thanks in part to a very good coach. You took the liberties to blast the kid on what you thought were his downfalls. Don't try to turn this on me, You're to new to this site to try some crap like that. I have wrote better posts in the snow with urine than you have been able to provide for 2 weeks.

I've been around longer than you think, Crackman! I'm just stating the facts, I didn't mention any names until YOU did. If you call that turning it on you, then so be it. Have a nice day.

[crackerman]

ohhhh ok, i got it. You were on here under another name, got kicked off, no one liked you...etc etc. I mentioned a name, you bashed the kid. Im sure you were quite the player yourself to bash this kid. Gimme a break

[DragonTigerNemesis]

Dear Mr. Massillon Catholic,

Since you are new here, and your posting indicates that you have your head up your ass---let me clue you in.

If even Mr. Crackerman is calling you out for posting tasteless about a player, then the MODS have a huge GD gun aimed at your head.

I suggest you duck.

Now!

:gasp:

[massillon catholic]

ohhhh ok, i got it. You were on here under another name, got kicked off, no one liked you...etc etc. I mentioned a name, you bashed the kid. Im sure you were quite the player yourself to bash this kid. Gimme a break


As usual, you are wrong. I've never been kicked off. Nobody mentioned the kid until you did. Don't blame me when you opened the door.

[crackerman]

GD, who let this guy on here? Are you kidding me.

[massillon catholic]

If you read my previous post, I didn't mention any players name until another poster did. Obviously, that poster must have known who I was referring too by his play on the field. Anyway, that was last year. its time to move on.


I dropped the topic early, crackerman chose to raise it from the dead.

[crackerman]

6 and a half hours ago you posted on this subject and thread, but yet I brought it from the dead? Wow..lol.

[massillon catholic]

If you read my previous post, I didn't mention any players name until another poster did. Obviously, that poster must have known who I was referring too by his play on the field. Anyway, that was last year. its time to move on.

READ ABOVE POST! Last five words......Its time to move on!!!!!!!!!

[crackerman]

good idea, how about you move on.....move on to another site where you can bash Tiger players all you want. McKinley has a few sites, Yappi seems to pick up a lot of interest from Jacksonites who like to smack talk the Tigers.

[massillon catholic]

good idea, how about you move on.....move on to another site where you can bash Tiger players all you want. McKinley has a few sites, Yappi seems to pick up a lot of interest from Jacksonites who like to smack talk the Tigers.

Good night, Crackerman.

[crackerman]

btw, I would love to see you have the Ball$ to tell Scott Garcia that he isnt a good coach as you previously stated. When you were done picking up your purse and teeth, Im sure you would think otherwise.

[DAWGH8R]

Maybe PM's would better suit this pissing match !!!

:rolleyes:

[crackerman]

with all due respect Dawgh8r, to be quite honest, if you dog one of the players the way he did in a public forum, it should be handled in a public forum.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

You know, the one thing I'll say about Antonio Scassa is that he is a proven winner. He plays to win the game and unlike some other Stark County players, he doesn't take plays off.

Scassa is also one of the hardest hitters as well and is an exemplary student/athlete.

[massillon catholic]

You know, the one thing I'll say about Antonio Scassa is that he is a proven winner. He plays to win the game and unlike some other Stark County players, he doesn't take plays off.

Scassa is also one of the hardest hitters as well and is an exemplary student/athlete.


I never questioned his heart or his intensity when he played the game. I only suggested that perhaps he was better suited to play a position other than ILB.

[monte81]

I will sum it up real quick(I'm in a good mood this morning)

1. Scassa was a good linebacker with excellant work ethic and desire to play at a high level. Evertime he made a mistake he made up for it sometime during the game. HE WILL PLAY AT UT BEFORE HE GRADUATES COLLEGE! In UT's sceme of 5 linebackers on the field on most series he will be a player to watch as he grows and puts on some weight.

2. Coaches make mistakes but Coach garcia is the the kind a spirited coach needed in HS sports and I wish him well at GO but our special teams did lack heart and desire at times the last few years and our linevacker overall have been monsters under his coaching---- McCall, Morris, Pettis, etc,... and Scassa played well despite his size disadvantaged.

3. Who will be the tigers new linebacker and special teams coach???

[TigerNick]

Coach Garcia will be missed. Good luck to him with the Glen Oak Golden Eagles.

[massillon catholic]

I will sum it up real quick(I'm in a good mood this morning)

1. Scassa was a good linebacker with excellant work ethic and desire to play at a high level. Evertime he made a mistake he made up for it sometime during the game. HE WILL PLAY AT UT BEFORE HE GRADUATES COLLEGE! In UT's sceme of 5 linebackers on the field on most series he will be a player to watch as he grows and puts on some weight.

2. Coaches make mistakes but Coach garcia is the the kind a spirited coach needed in HS sports and I wish him well at GO but our special teams did lack heart and desire at times the last few years and our linevacker overall have been monsters under his coaching---- McCall, Morris, Pettis, etc,... and Scassa played well despite his size disadvantaged.

3. Who will be the tigers new linebacker and special teams coach???

I don't know who the new coach will be, but I hope they bring someone in soon!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Massillon Catholic,

You better hope it's someone before mid-July FAIAP (check the thread "Andy Alleman" to see it's meaning).