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xtiger

02-25-2007, 02:04 AM

Another slam. This knucklehead never stops. http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=338446&r=0&Category=17&subCategoryID=0

mike_da_man13

02-25-2007, 02:37 AM

i love how they single out massillon no wonder we have that kind of reputation

PurpleArmy

02-25-2007, 02:42 AM

No offense, but the article also mentioned bad behavior by fans of:

Perry
GlenOak
Hoover
McKimley
Jackson (the Rep article didn't name Jackson directly, but it was implied by this quote: "Often, near the end of yet another McKinley win, suburban-school fans chant “That’s all right, that’s OK, you’ll work for us someday.” )

So the article said that a Massillon fan called a basketball player from GlenOak names the entire game. So what?

How is it a "slam" if she actually DID do that to GlenOak's Kosta Koufos?

Maybe next time, she'll figure out how to behave at games, and not embarrass herself by ending up in the paper.

Same goes for the kids of the schools that were mentioned in the article.

Poor sportsmanship is stupid and it only makes you look like an idiot, so don't do it and you have nothing to worry about when you wind up sitting next to Todd Porter at a basketball game...lol

longtimefirsttime

02-25-2007, 03:19 AM

The first fan mentioned, of course, is a Massillon fan. Not a shocker. If TP only knew what people (from all schools) call HIM when he leaves a room.

PurpleArmy

02-25-2007, 03:23 AM

The first fan mentioned, of course, is a Massillon fan. Not a shocker. If TP only knew what people (from all schools) call HIM when he leaves a room.

Port-A-Potty? Just a guess...... :laughing:

DAWGH8R

02-25-2007, 09:53 AM

PurpleArmy

02-25-2007, 10:01 AM

Why not list the school at fault in this sentance ?????

Last year, a player from McKinley, whose learning disability was an aspect of a story, toed the foul line and heard the chant “You can’t read” from the opposing student section.

He's a JACKASS !!

I'm sure it was a bunch of Jackson kids that yelled that, which is what I alluded to in my previous post. Of course, I've also heard Hoover kids say that same chant, too. Who knows? (Of course, I did enjoy your thinly veiled little suggestion that it HAD to be Jackson kids, DAWGH8R. :laughing: Why not just come out and say that, as it would have taken a lot less time than making half of your sentence in purple font....lol )

In any case, all of that crap is just in poor taste and makes the people doing it look like a total "doofus"- to quote the Rep's story. They should all know better.

DAWGH8R

02-25-2007, 10:48 AM

Wasn't trying to single out any schools, cuz IDK who the refence was to. I just wanted to highlight the text that I was referring to.

I will change the color !!

The Butler

02-25-2007, 10:58 AM

While Massillon is mentioned at the begining of the article, several schools are named throughout the stories. We all know that every school has its' share of bad fans, and Massillon is not immune from that.

CHANTS: GOOD, BAD ... AND UGLY (http://www.cantonrep.com/printable.php?ID=338433)

OHSAA promotes sportsmanship (http://www.cantonrep.com/printable.php?ID=338434)

Federal League works with student leaders (http://www.cantonrep.com/printable.php?ID=338432)

TigerDL71

02-25-2007, 11:01 AM

i will agree that it happens but just not in massillon or stark county, here at Kent State I have been working as an usher for the State Playoff hockey games and I have seen some fans that fit into this category. I just sat there and laughed because the more I thought about the more I realized that this person was making themselves out to the one of the biggest idiots. I did however ended up warning these several people and I think they got the picture.

North Canton Hoover was also in the tournament up her at Kent and I will say that their fans were well behaved and their head coach was a very nice guy as well.

PurpleArmy

02-25-2007, 12:42 PM

Wasn't trying to single out any schools, cuz IDK who the refence was to. I just wanted to highlight the text that I was referring to.

I will change the color !!
If you check out the links that Butler posted, it was pretty much confirmed that Jackson kids are the ones who yell about other students working for them someday, so no big thing. I've even heard them yell that at games against other schools, so you didn't have to change the color. I just thought it was funny, because I already knew the article was referring to JHS kids.

Every school has it's student chants that are in poor taste. They're horrible a lot of the time at basketball games, and I think they shouldn't be permitted to do that crap. It's just not cool.

DAWGH8R

02-25-2007, 12:54 PM

I'm all for cheering/chanting, but not when it gets personal. You see someof that withthe BIG college student sections. Everything from criminal records to GPA, to test scores. Nothing is sacred to these kids .:ohno:

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

02-25-2007, 01:26 PM

I've seen worse. But there are some high school fans that are out of control, don't get me wrong.

PurpleArmy,

I don't condone any kind of derogatory chants no matter what it is. There are radicals out there that resort to those kind of tactics and I know first hand about those.

I admire how Kosta Koufos handled himself on the floor. It takes a real giant to handle the heckling the way he did.

I don't mind chants or what not BUT when it gets down to the attacks on a player, their family, personal life, those are chants I can't tolerate.

Heck, I could go to Mr. Porter and tell him about my experiences if I really wanted to because I've been around it myself.

But back to high school athletes. You won't believe the numerous attacks that Massillon point guard Michael Porrini absorbs on Yappi and he has told me about them in past interviews and I believe his word on it.

Sometimes, I wish high school fans wouldn't act as senseless, horrendous, inconsistent, thoughtless, trashy, yellow as they are.

Xtiger,

To return fire. There are some Stark County high school fans that boast that they have the best fans and a lot of class. But you know what (taking Massillon out of the equation), Porter knows deep down in his heart how some of these fans really are and how they all can be. I know first hand for myself and can attest to that having been around Porter and reading some of his articles.

People can trash Massillon all they want and talk down on the fans but Massillon has proven to me why the majority of their fans are first class.

TigerCoach

02-25-2007, 02:35 PM

I don't think it was slam, xtiger, it's the truth. I'm glad someone is bringing to light this growing problem. I can say with some good experience that it's more of a problem with adults than students. Students are usually just having fun, while the adult screamers are just plain nasty and ignorant with their personal attacks on players and officials.

As an official for 20 years, I've just about heard them all. I've also ejected fans a few times each year, but I put the burden on school officials to monitor this. Officials are busy working the game and typically fans, with all their courage, only yell at you when your back is turned. That can be stopped very easily if the school chose to, but for some reason they don't.

xtiger

02-25-2007, 03:14 PM

I don't think it was slam, xtiger, it's the truth. I'm glad someone is bringing to light this growing problem. I can say with some good experience that it's more of a problem with adults than students. Students are usually just having fun, while the adult screamers are just plain nasty and ignorant with their personal attacks on players and officials.

I agree, something needs to be done. However, What bothers me most is that Todd Porter usually paints Massillon as the culprit and the bad ones. Yea
he used other schools as an example, but started the article with Massillon.
And he even got quotes from Koufos about "the Massillon" lady.

Of course it was on the front page.

DAWGH8R

02-25-2007, 03:26 PM

However, What bothers me most is that Todd Porter .........................

http://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/files/2006/07/donkey.jpg

Kamd50

02-25-2007, 04:22 PM

I agree, something needs to be done. However, What bothers me most is that Todd Porter usually paints Massillon as the culprit and the bad ones. Yea
he used other schools as an example, but started the article with Massillon.
And he even got quotes from Koufos about "the Massillon" lady.

Of course it was on the front page.

I agree on both counts; that something needs to be done, and the way Porter worded his article. First of all, he could have started off saying that there was a problem with fans ..........and then went on to give examples. But the way he lead off, it almost lead you to believe that the incident concerning the "Massillon lady" had just occured, until you realize that he is talking about a game a while ago.He then goes into detail, which would be fine, if he would have gone into as much detail concerning all of the other incidents at other schools. He not only quotes Koufas, but reiterates it with a quote from the coach, I think. Hence, making it seem at first, an article about Massillon fans. I suppose it is his way of getting people's attention in order to get them to read his article; knowing that it would catch peoples' interest in a Canton paper.

I cannot believe that no one that was sitting around this woman did not tell her to shut up. I swear I would have in a minute if I had been near her. I would have told her to please act like an adult and stop embarrassing the team,or get the hell out! People like this are a disgrace and an embarrassment to our school, and she should do all of us and the team a big favor and just stay the hell away from the games! They don't need fans like her:obiefanfire:

I disagree that the adults are worse though. The way the Mansfield students treated our team and our cheerleaders was reprehensible. First off, you don't "chant" during halftime when the other cheerleaders go out on the floor, let alone call them CATTLE loud enough that the entire gym hears it, including their own personel. As someone pointed out in another thread, these were the actions of some serious white trash. I will give credit to one of their own fans, an older black gentleman that came up to the girls and told them that he had never heard nothing like that before. He also said "I know you girls aren't supposed to say anything, but you should have went over and slapped them." And I thank him for showing the girls that not all of the Mansfield fans approved of their behavior.

joe_bb_fan

02-25-2007, 05:10 PM

I believe Massillon fans, especially adults who know better, should police themselves. The actions of a few knuckleheads result in a bad reputation for all. But, if no one suggests to the knuckleheads that they are out of line, they'll just keep doing it. Perhaps if one of you had intervened, Porter could have written about someone else's knucklehead.

obiefan

02-25-2007, 06:56 PM

Amen, Coach...

Case in point... Tol Whitmer game... Our band played to their side, since they were the "Home" team. A couple knucklehead fans of the female persuasion (looked like parents possibly) wearing orange and black was yelling at the top of their lungs repeatedly. Her quote "Our Band's Better, Our Band's Better". Sorry to say this, but it damn well serves her right that we lost that game... I guess Karma is a b--ch... It always bites in the a*$...

I don't think it was slam, xtiger, it's the truth. I'm glad someone is bringing to light this growing problem. I can say with some good experience that it's more of a problem with adults than students. Students are usually just having fun, while the adult screamers are just plain nasty and ignorant with their personal attacks on players and officials.

As an official for 20 years, I've just about heard them all. I've also ejected fans a few times each year, but I put the burden on school officials to monitor this. Officials are busy working the game and typically fans, with all their courage, only yell at you when your back is turned. That can be stopped very easily if the school chose to, but for some reason they don't.

werperry

02-25-2007, 07:02 PM

“Koo-fus is a doo-fus. Koo-fus is a doo-fus”

...oh my God. :doh: :laughing: ...that's priceless. well give her credit it did rhymn. haha

i think some of you massillon fans are a bit hyper-sensitive. no one in their right-mind would think actions as descibed... are only limited to YOUR school. it's a problem everywhere.

believe it or not... it's not ALWAYS about massillon... shheeeesh

DAWGH8R

02-25-2007, 09:20 PM

Just get tired of being the ones that get singled out !!:notlistening:

pigskinmccarthy

02-25-2007, 09:27 PM

Someone at the next big basketball game should start a Chant about Porter. Teach the "dofous" a lesson. haha I hate that guy (IMO) I think I stressed this in another thread in the past. http://massillonproud.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3095&page=4&highlight=Frease

fyrewood

02-25-2007, 10:44 PM

believe it or not... it's not ALWAYS about massillon... shheeeesh

Yet here you are. LOL :poke:

longtimefirsttime

02-25-2007, 11:20 PM

It is not uncommon for reporters to run a series of reports on a "societal problem" subject this time of year. If you truly pay attention you will notice this. Why? Because Associated Press holds its awards banquet every spring. Here are examples of a few of the awards.

BEST ENTERPRISE REPORTING (Series reporting)
OUTSTANDING NEWS OPERATION
BEST REPORTER
BEST CONTINUING COVERAGE
BEST FEATURE REPORTING
BEST DOCUMENTARY
BEST SPOT NEWS
EXTRAORDINARY COVERAGE OF A SCHEDULED EVENT
BEST INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING

I won several of the awards while a member of the media. Porter may think sportsmanship is a pressing issue. He may be just trying to gain a pat on the back by winning an award. It could be both.

werperry

02-26-2007, 08:21 AM

Yet here you are. LOL :poke:

one of about 60 boards i read. :rolleyes:

Red50Go

02-26-2007, 08:51 AM

“Koo-fus is a doo-fus. Koo-fus is a doo-fus”

...oh my God. :doh: :laughing: ...that's priceless. well give her credit it did rhymn. haha

I mean really, thats one step above my 10 year old neice calling the opposing pitcher a belly itcher. Granted its an adult fan, but thats so corny its funny.

I would MUCH rather be associated w/ that than any of the other more classless comments by other schools mentioned in the article. Of course TP leads w/ Massillon to grab attention plus he HAD to give equal treatment for everyone, but he really had to reach on that one.

monte81

02-26-2007, 09:12 AM

I mean really, thats one step above my 10 year old neice calling the opposing pitcher a belly itcher. Granted its an adult fan, but thats so corny its funny.

I would MUCH rather be associated w/ that than any of the other more classless comments by other schools mentioned in the article. Of course TP leads w/ Massillon to grab attention plus he HAD to give equal treatment for everyone, but he really had to reach on that one.

Porter has been doing Massillon wrong since he was the head reporter of the HS newspaper in 1988 even lying about a few stories that happened after school hours and he always reported negative things about the program and fans after graduation--- sometimes he is OK but thought he would be alittle more on the home team with his articles!!! As a reporter he is supposed to be biased so I guess he is doing so naming several schools and incidents! I just take it his way of getting back at Massillon because he was boo-boo as a player and rode the bench!!!LOL!!

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

02-26-2007, 09:27 AM

monte81,

You really think Mr. Porter is trying to get back at Massillon? You might have a lead but I'll tell you this: Massillon can't and NEVER will hate Mr. Porter like that of Canton McKinley fans.

I know first hand of that let alone the expectations they have of reporters. Trust me, I know.

By the way, Porter is pushing 35 too. He'll be there with Goff, Harig, Silverthorn, Carpenter, Coach Menches (the older Menches), and so on.

monte81

02-26-2007, 10:33 AM

Keno,
I was just joking but truthful! Porter wrote an article once about me and my teammates in a fight in Jackson township without facts that involved a shooting---you need to have facts when reporting about peoples lives and not what someone heard or thinks!! I almost lost my scholly---he is not the blame but wrote a few lies--so when he writes it sometimes is personal to ME!!! I really don't think he is trying to get back at Massillon but just trying to get headlines!! Either way he could improve on his sources, topics, and writing ability. How could you always drop pop shots at a program you claim to love so much??? Ask Mr. Porter that when you see him. --but who am I? I just help people find jobs I am no reporter so I don't need community/social approval for my satisfaction!! Either way the guy is a bad and egotistical reporter with no athletic skills!

Oh-- I know how old Mr. Porter is because we all played together--that's why I can critique their athletic ability just like they are free to comment and critique mine!!!!! ie: as posted in the Menches thread by me---- "Tom you were a hellva blocker and great cook"

xtiger

02-26-2007, 10:53 AM

one of about 60 boards i read. :rolleyes:

How's that Perry board going??:poke:

tgr4lfe

02-26-2007, 03:08 PM

was at the mansfield b ball game when our cheerleaders were on the floor the student section began to chant [1,2.3.4 GET YOUR CATTLE OFF THE FLoOR,]thought that was pretty lame.i still like it when massillon played st.x and started chanting [WE GOT GIRLS,WE GOT GIRLS]

CarlE

02-26-2007, 03:12 PM

Mansfield talking about cattle, farms, etc? Are you freaking KIDDING ME?? Sounds as bad as some farm-wife from Minerva bad-mouthing our school system.

longtimefirsttime

02-26-2007, 10:36 PM

pigskinmccarthy

02-26-2007, 11:12 PM

Mansfield talking about cattle, farms, etc? Are you freaking KIDDING ME?? Sounds as bad as some farm-wife from Minerva bad-mouthing our school system.

Dang.....talk about a burn

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

02-27-2007, 10:52 AM

longtimefirsttime,

Six years ago, I got to meet Mr. Porter as a high school senior. When it comes to knowing fans, no one knows them better than Porter. Excluding Massillon from this discussion, you have to understand that most fan bases in Stark County think they boast the best fans but in all reality...Porter knows just how distasteful they can be and it doesn't take long for me to catch on after reading a story ot two of his.

Being around a guy like Porter (who has won numerous state awards), I know which fans to trust and which ones not to put my trust into. And I can attest to this.

By the way...Porter is my #1 writer at The Repository.

MTown

02-27-2007, 11:36 AM

Keno, he's a jackass.

monte81

02-27-2007, 11:41 AM

Keno, he's a jackass.

#1 jackass!!!!!!

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

02-27-2007, 11:57 AM

Kamd50

02-27-2007, 12:29 PM

MTown,

Wow...that's two Massillon natives you don't like. I wonder who is going to be the third.........

......but you do have to agree with Porter that there are some distasteful fans in Stark County (not including Massillon), don't get me wrong.

Yea, every single one of us Massillon fans are above reproach! Except for that one "Massillon lady" who was taunting Koufus :wink: lol

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp

02-27-2007, 12:42 PM

Kamd50,

Massillon fans have class unlike others. Case in point: Remember the Tigers 58-6 win over Cleveland Lincoln West...when Massillon fans praised the Wolverines head football coach and his team with claps and generous cheers of encouragement as they returned to their locker room (story written by Joe Shaheen from 2002).

If I were a visiting coach, I'd sign a contract with Massillon before any other school. With the generosity and respect Massillon fans have...it all would come into play.