Quinn Says He Should Be First Draft Pick

[obie7661]

http://sports.myway.com/news/02232007/v1519.html

[SuperBran]

i think quinn's a very good prospect and will be ready to play sooner than russell, although russell has great size and a great arm.

i like his quote ""There's not one other player in college that's had the coaching I've had in the last two years, and I feel I'm the best leader." he's right. charlie waist..errr, weis sure has stood heads and shoulders above everyone else (insert sarchasm here). actually, he does have the biggers waist in college football, so i guess there is no other like him.

if he's the best leader, how come he hasn't led them to many quality victories the last two years???

[warren1st]

I'd love to see him in a Browns uniform. There are some great "big uglies" that Cleveland desperately needs but with the 3rd or 4th pick I think they have to go with the skill position.

[longtimefirsttime]

First round yes. First pick? No. And the Browns had better not take him!

[DAWGH8R]

As a PITTSBURGH fan, I'd LOVE to see himin a Cleveland uniform too !!

OVER RATED !!!!!!!!!

[longtimefirsttime]

I've said for months that I like Thomas. Peterson has a lot of potential but can he stay healthy?

[austinsm11]

I've said for months that I like Thomas. Peterson has a lot of potential but can he stay healthy?

I completely agree.

If the Browns draft Peterson he will be out of football in a few years due to injuries. If someone else drafts him he will be a hall of famer. That's Cleveland's luck.

If we can't get Thomas I would like to trade down and pick up a few extra picks. Perhaps a team will want Johnson and will trade with us or we can get Tampa to trade up one.

[longtimefirsttime]

The problem is the Lions are interested in Thomas (at #2). I hope they don't take him. The Bucs reportedly want Johnson badly. We'll see if they try to trade up. My prediction on the Top 4:

1-Oakland- Jamarcus Russell
2-Lions-Joe Thomas
3-Browns-Adrian Peterson
4-Bucs-Calvin Johnson
(I predict Alan Branch, Brady Quinn, Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, LaRon Landry and Ted Ginn Jr. round out the Top 10, not especially in that order.)

Calvin Johnson has potential to be a HUGE playmaker. My predictions and $5 will get you a coffee at Starbucks. :wink:

[longtimefirsttime]

Some famous (or infamous) draft stories:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0702/gallery.nfl.draftcombine/content.1.html

[longtimefirsttime]

Quinn has skipped the combine.
http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2007/02/23/brady-quinn-aint-working-out-at-the-combine/

[austinsm11]

The problem is the Lions are interested in Thomas (at #2). I hope they don't take him. The Bucs reportedly want Johnson badly. We'll see if they try to trade up. My prediction on the Top 4:

1-Oakland- Jamarcus Russell
2-Lions-Joe Thomas
3-Browns-Adrian Peterson
4-Bucs-Calvin Johnson
(I predict Alan Branch, Brady Quinn, Jamaal Anderson, Gaines Adams, LaRon Landry and Ted Ginn Jr. round out the Top 10, not especially in that order.)

Calving Johnson has potential to be a HUGE playmaker. My predictions and $5 will get you a coffee at Starbucks. :wink:

Yeah, it seems like everyone has the Lions taking Thomas. Maybe they will take a receiver in the first round yet again, however.

[longtimefirsttime]

"Jon Gruden is in position to stop Brady Quinn's free fall. But will the golden boy coach risk a first-round pick on a quarterback who might never start in Tampa Bay for him? The answer might surprise you. Gruden interviewed Quinn in a hotel room Saturday night."
St. Petersburg Times




"The Lions have the No. 2 pick, and team president Matt Millen said teams have shown interest in trading up to get JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn."
Detroit Free Press

[SuperBran]

[QUOTE=longtimefirsttime;40047"The Lions have the No. 2 pick, and team president Matt Millen said teams have shown interest in trading up to get JaMarcus Russell or Brady Quinn."
Detroit Free Press[/QUOTE]

who are we kidding.........millen will take yet another wr. LOL.

[OTC TIGER]

For all those bashing Quinn...Dan Marino was the 27th pick in 1983 and had
question marks leading up to draft day...will Quinn be another Marino..unlikely.
but those in the top 10 should be wary of not taking a QB like Quinn

[CarlE]

Yeah, and George Steinbrenner should approach me down here about the middle reliever job that the Yankees have a need to fill. Geez Louise. Quinn is a freaking LOSER. Never won a big game in his career and got torched in most of them.

[OTC TIGER]

Yeah, and George Steinbrenner should approach me down here about the middle reliever job that the Yankees have a need to fill. Geez Louise. Quinn is a freaking LOSER. Never won a big game in his career and got torched in most of them.

How many "Big" games did Rothlisberger @ Miami or Cutler @ Vanderbilt win :rock:

[CarlE]

Yeah, and they both SUCK. Ben is a one year wonder and Shanahan will RUE the day he benched Plummer for Cutler. Class dismissed.

[ChronicTiger]

How many "Big" games did Rothlisberger @ Miami or Cutler @ Vanderbilt win :rock:

How many "Big" games do Miami and Vanderbilt ever win? They prob had the same chance with Rothlisdorker and IgotCutler than they would of had with Keno at QB.

:doh:

[OTC TIGER]

[QUOTE=ChronicTiger;40327]How many "Big" games do Miami and Vanderbilt ever win?


My point exactly...They don't...however their QB's were drafted in the top 11
picks


How many "Big" games did Lienart win..back to back National Titles..37-2 as a starter as well as a Heisman..and was drafted 10th in 2006

Recess is over :smartass:

[CarlE]

[QUOTE]


My point exactly...They don't...however their QB's were drafted in the top 11
picks


How many "Big" games did Lienart win..back to back National Titles..37-2 as a starter as well as a Heisman..and was drafted 10th in 2006

Recess is over :smartass:

What in the HELL are you talking about? You're making about as much sense as some of the other Einsteins on here. Where did Lienhardt come from?

[OTC TIGER]

CarlE...you said Quinn never won a big game in his career...Quinn will be drafted (I believe) around pick 8-10 right about where Lienart was picked
does Lienart suck....he won a lot of big games and still was picked 10th

He has the tools to be a very solid NFL QB just like Big Ben, Cutler, & Lienart
all drafted around the 10th spot

Troy Smith's won many big games...would you draft him ahead of Quinn..

[OTC TIGER]

[QUOTE=OTC TIGER;40332]

Where did Lienhardt come from?

Matt Lienart came from USC..:smartass:

[CarlE]

[QUOTE]

Matt Lienart came from USC..:smartass:

You're a real freaking genius you know that Einstein?

[OTC TIGER]

[QUOTE]You're a real freaking genius you know that Einstein?

LOL...Please...just call me Albert

seriously I'm not a Notre Dame fan either..I am a fan of Lido Key though..I'll see ya
there in June..:drinkem:

[longtimefirsttime]

Yeah, and they both SUCK. Ben is a one year wonder and Shanahan will RUE the day he benched Plummer for Cutler. Class dismissed.

Plummer says he may retire, rather than accept a trade to the Bucs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2785459

[longtimefirsttime]

The Browns likely are going to field a lot of calls over the next few weeks. From an article on the Falcons:

"If Oakland goes with LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell and Detroit follows with Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas, then Cleveland would be the target.
The Browns would likely want quarterback Matt Schaub, the 10th pick and at least next season's first rounder. They might even ask for Freddie Falcon and couple of cheerleaders, too. Another problem for the Falcons is that Houston wants to move up to No. 3 to get Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson.
Their bargaining chips include David Carr and the No. 8 pick."

http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/03/03/0304nflinsider.html

[monte81]

The Browns likely are going to field a lot of calls over the next few weeks. From an article on the Falcons:

"If Oakland goes with LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell and Detroit follows with Wisconsin tackle Joe Thomas, then Cleveland would be the target.
The Browns would likely want quarterback Matt Schaub, the 10th pick and at least next season's first rounder. They might even ask for Freddie Falcon and couple of cheerleaders, too. Another problem for the Falcons is that Houston wants to move up to No. 3 to get Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson.
Their bargaining chips include David Carr and the No. 8 pick."

http://www.ajc.com/falcons/content/sports/falcons/stories/2007/03/03/0304nflinsider.html

The Houston Deal sounds pretty good-- we could gat a solid QB(if he aint damaged fom all the hits in Texas) and still could grap the Cal RB with the #8 pick!! Carr=solid????? That's tha big issue. If Atlanta bites then take it--we need a QB and a few wins so my mom can be happy after church a few times during the football season! The browns always seem to ruin her day!

[SuperBran]

The Browns would likely want quarterback Matt Schaub, the 10th pick and at least next season's first rounder.

if atlanta offers this, cleveland would be complete stupid to pass is up.

[MTown]

Who would be left on the board at pick #10? I haven't seen many draft experts big boards recently so I don't know who they have slotted there.

If you think Matt Schaub is a QB you can win with, and you can still get a starter with the 10th pick...you gotta make this trade. (Although it's still tough to pass on Peterson).

[SuperBran]

Who would be left on the board at pick #10? I haven't seen many draft experts big boards recently so I don't know who they have slotted there.

If you think Matt Schaub is a QB you can win with, and you can still get a starter with the 10th pick...you gotta make this trade. (Although it's still tough to pass on Peterson).

i definitely think that schaub is a qb that the browns can win with. regarding who they could pick up at 10, it depends on what they're looking for. if they go rb, then they can pick up lynch (or possibly pick up bush in round 2 if he's around). if they go ol, brown may be available.

[MTown]

If the Browns hope to get a franchise QB out of this draft either by trade or by selecting someone I would hope they look at it like this...

Which is better for the team?

Scenario #1 Trade for Matt Schaub and with the 10th pick get Leon Hall, Alan Branch, Ted Ginn, etc...

Scenario #2 Just draft Brady Quinn.


I would go for scenario #1 if we can get a good DLineman with the 10th pick. The biggest problem for the Browns has been stopping the run and running the ball. Signing Eric Steinbach was huge. Now we need a guy in the draft at #10 if we do this. I agree that Bush would be a good pick in the 2nd round. I've always liked him...he's a beast.

[longtimefirsttime]

Now the buzz (which changes from day to day) is that the Texans are very interested in Quinn. He reportedly looked very good in his workout on Monday.
Several Browns officials were reportedly in attendance including Romeo and Savage.

[MTown]

The Browns took EVERYBODY, including Randy Lerner.

[longtimefirsttime]

Don Banks from SI projects the Lions taking Brady Quinn and the Browns taking Thomas.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/don_banks/03/08/mock.draft3.part1/index.html
That would be fine with me!

[longtimefirsttime]

More and more of the "draft experts" say the Browns should take Quinn.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6571514

[longtimefirsttime]

The Lions are reportedly interested in trading down.
http://nfl.aolsportsblog.com/2007/03/17/lions-try-to-trade-down-from-no-2-pick/

[longtimefirsttime]

From the Plain Dealer:
"The latest speculation on the national level has the Browns falling out of love with Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson and in love with the idea of selecting a quarterback, with LSU's JaMarcus Russell being their top choice and Notre Dame's Brady Quinn second."

[longtimefirsttime]

The Browns may be interested in Green.
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=15113&r=4&Category=2

Too old, too injury prone and too costly in my opinion.

[longtimefirsttime]

Carr has agreed to backup Delhomme in Carolina.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2827930

[warren1st]

Disregarding the NFL expertise of CarlE and others, after seeing all the "crap" that so many college and pro players get into anymore, it would be nice to see a clean cut, Ohio kid with mucho talent be taken by the Browns.

I know that football is way more scientific than it was years ago, but Paul Brown took many Ohio kids in the draft or simply signed them and most went on to stellar careers with the Browns. They really wanted to be a Cleveland Brown and their play on the field proved it.

I hate to say it but do you think, as an example, Braylon Edwards really cares whether he's a Cleveland Brown or a Pittsburgh Steeler or a Bengal?

Sign Brady!!

[longtimefirsttime]

From the Beacon Journal:
"Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn dressed in a light orange shirt for his visit to the Browns. If he gets his wish, he'll soon have a matching orange helmet. Quinn, who grew up in Dublin, Ohio, has said he wants to play for the Browns, the team he rooted for as a kid."

From the Plain Dealer:
"The Browns are apparently ready to step up their pursuit of Chiefs quarterback Trent Green. Browns GM Phil Savage said Thursday morning that the next step is to negotiate a "ballpark contract" for Green that would prompt him to want to come to Cleveland for a visit. So far, Green has said he only wants to be traded to the Dolphins, who are also in the hunt."

[CarlE]

Disregarding the NFL expertise of CarlE and others, after seeing all the "crap" that so many college and pro players get into anymore, it would be nice to see a clean cut, Ohio kid with mucho talent be taken by the Browns.

I know that football is way more scientific than it was years ago, but Paul Brown took many Ohio kids in the draft or simply signed them and most went on to stellar careers with the Browns. They really wanted to be a Cleveland Brown and their play on the field proved it.

I hate to say it but do you think, as an example, Braylon Edwards really cares whether he's a Cleveland Brown or a Pittsburgh Steeler or a Bengal?

Sign Brady!!


Time will tell. Yes, that Clarett kid from Ohio was a REAL upstanding citizen and credit to the NFL wasn't he Warren1st? That is just a ludicrous statement. We are in a different time than when Paul Brown drafted. A WAY different time.

[warren1st]

Time will tell. Yes, that Clarett kid from Ohio was a REAL upstanding citizen and credit to the NFL wasn't he Warren1st? That is just a ludicrous statement. We are in a different time than when Paul Brown drafted. A WAY different time.

Huh? What statement is ludicrous? Just because I'd like to see a clean cut, talented Ohio kid who wants to be drafted by Cleveland in a Browns' uniform, how does that thought be ludicrous? Please explain. Believe me, I know we live in a sadly WAY different time than when PB was drafting but I'll bet you he would take Brady Quinn today.

Hey, I put Clarret in the same boat as the others who are getting into trouble. Btw, I believe he went to tOSU and not UM.:poke:

[CarlE]

Your insinuation that because he's from Ohio he's a "clean-cut" kid when I gave you a PERFECT example of one of your own from Warren that proved otherwise. I don't care WHERE they are from. Draft the best available player, and no, that is NOT Brady Quinn. And he won't be a big-time NFL QB. This is NOT Joe Montana we're talking about. Brady Quinn did not win ONE big game for Notre Dame. That's all I'm saying, Warren1st. Sorry if you took it personal.

[warren1st]

Your insinuation that because he's from Ohio he's a "clean-cut" kid when I gave you a PERFECT example of one of your own from Warren that proved otherwise. I don't care WHERE they are from. Draft the best available player, and no, that is NOT Brady Quinn. And he won't be a big-time NFL QB. This is NOT Joe Montana we're talking about. Brady Quinn did not win ONE big game for Notre Dame. That's all I'm saying, Warren1st. Sorry if you took it personal.

No, no, no,you got it all wrong. Please read carefully. I said because he was a clean cut kid and from Ohio he would be a great choice. I'm not parochial enough to think simply because a kid is from Ohio he's clean cut. Sheesh!!!

Btw, ask Mo Clarret where he's from and he will tell you Youngstown not Warren.

Now, if you want to parse every word I write and tear apart, that's your perogative.

Sometimes me gets the feeling you just want to pick a fight with ole Warren1st. That's exactly why I didn't take you up on your invitation to go fishing while I was in FL!!:lol: I think you would have taken me for a long walk on a short pier.

[austinsm11]

Warren1st,

I get what you are saying about Brady. I really have no idea who I want the Browns to draft at this point. But it does make me feel good that someone out there would actually like to play for the Browns. It is true that Brady never really won any big games (and it makes me just a little nervous), but it takes a whole team win a game. I think he is much better than people give him credit.

I kind of hope we take the big guy from Wisconsin. It will be hard to tell how good any quarterback is until we have a decent line and you know that one of them will get a serious injury this year.

[longtimefirsttime]

Mel Kiper was on WKNR Wednesday night. He predicted the Browns would take Quinn. The most interesting rumor (although unlikely) would have the Browns trading down to the #5 spot. It would give them an extra pick and still would likely allow them to take one of their reported "Big 3" (Peterson, Thomas or Quinn). The funniest part was Kiper kept calling Kenny Roda "Pete" during the entire interview.

[longtimefirsttime]

Quinn still believes he should be the top pick.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/nfl/specials/draft/2007/04/11/bc.fbn.draft.quinn.ap/index.html

[longtimefirsttime]

"Late next week, the Dolphins will play host to Ted Ginn Jr., his father said Monday. The visit is expected to take place April 19 or 20, Ginn Sr. said. Ginn. Jr., who is far more likely to be available with the Dolphins' ninth overall pick than Brady Quinn or JaMarcus Russell, is a speedy threat with potential to replace Wes Welker as the team's kick returner. "
Miami Herald

[obie7661]

Quinn says he could fix NFL franchise

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/breaking_news/17063040.htm

[CarlE]

Quinn says he could fix NFL franchise

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/news/breaking_news/17063040.htm

First, tell him to go back and fix all those freaking big Notre Dame games he choked his ass off in. THEN worry about the NFL. What a freaking ego case.

[longtimefirsttime]

There has been a lot of buzz lately about the Browns taking Quinn. Now few know whether it's legit or some late misdirection. I'm not saying Quinn will be a total bust in the NFL. But fot the Browns they need someone who can make an immediate impact. And Savage and Romeo don't have the luxury of being able to wait a few years to groom Quinn for the NFL.

The latest rumors have Peterson falling to as low as 9th overall. If the Browns could draft down to that spot, pick up an additional pick or two and still get him, that would have to be considered a successful draft.

[MTown]

A D

[longtimefirsttime]

Look at this draft report. Can you imagine if this happened?
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

I have heard a few analysts say the Lions are completely clueless about who they want and what they should do. The analyst I've heard say Russell has a huge upside as far as physical gifts to be star NFL QB. The question is whether he has the head and heart. I'll ask the MP posters, who do you think will have the better overall NFL career Russell or Quinn?

[longtimefirsttime]

"Peterson has no doubt he's worthy of a top pick"
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft07/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2839618

[longtimefirsttime]

"Is Brady Quinn the next Peyton Manning?"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/adam_hofstetter/04/18/uncommon.sense/index.html

[longtimefirsttime]

"The inside scoop on Joe Thomas"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/sioncampus/04/17/joe.thomas/index.html

[longtimefirsttime]

"The Raiders will pass on Calvin Johnson and choose between the draft's top two quarterbacks, JaMarcus Russell, of LSU, and Brady Quinn, of Notre Dame, with Russell appearing to have a 2-length lead heading into the homestretch."

Philadelphia Daily News

[longtimefirsttime]

The Browns may be interested in Green.
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=15113&r=4&Category=2

Too old, too injury prone and too costly in my opinion.

I'm not sure if there was ever a serious interest. If there was they can likely forget that option.
"Trent Green is so eager to join the Dolphins that the quarterback's representatives have asked Kansas City president/general manager Carl Peterson to expedite a trade, a source said Friday. The source also said Green's agents have told Cleveland that he is not interested in visiting the Browns."
South Florida Sun-Sentinel

[MTown]

No Brady Quinn!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

CarlE,

Quinn cost himself with his putrid, unwanted, shoddy, sputtered, yellow, awful, slow, sorrowful performance in the Sugar Bowl. And the fact that Russell clearly outplayed Quinn didn't help matters.

I know which quarterback I'd turn to when my pride is on the line late in the fourth quarter. And no...it's not AJ Hawk's brother-in-law either.

[MTown]

I know which quarterback I'd turn to when my pride is on the line late in the fourth quarter. And no...it's not AJ Hawk's brother-in-law either.

Tom Brady?

[PDC]

CarlE,

Quinn cost himself with his putrid, unwanted, shoddy, sputtered, yellow, awful, slow, sorrowful performance in the Sugar Bowl. And the fact that Russell clearly outplayed Quinn didn't help matters.

I know which quarterback I'd turn to when my pride is on the line late in the fourth quarter. And no...it's not AJ Hawk's brother-in-law either.

Keno acts like Russell is already a proven winner at the NFL level.

Right now both Quinn and Russell have a lot to prove. (and Quinn didn't "cost" himself anything. He's still going to be a millionaire in two weeks)

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

PDC,

To the Powerful, Diligent, Catholic known as PDC:

You better play your best in a bowl game or it will bite you in the butt. And that's what happened to Brady Quinn. He played poorly and it could hurt his standing in the NFL draft.

That's just how I see it.

[CarlE]

PDC,

To the Powerful, Diligent, Catholic known as PDC:

You better play your best in a bowl game or it will bite you in the butt. And that's what happened to Brady Quinn. He played poorly and it could hurt his standing in the NFL draft.

That's just how I see it.

Not just bowl games. He sucked in EVERY big game he played in. No folks, definitely NOT the second coming of Joe Montana!

[monte81]

Not just bowl games. He sucked in EVERY big game he played in. No folks, definitely NOT the second coming of Joe Montana!

Montana was the most accurate passer in the 80's with 4 Super Bowl wins. The only QB playing today that could be put in that sentence is Tom Brady. I would not want to be the Raiders knowing that both Quinn and Russell could be busts. If its that much concern take Joe Thomas, Johnson or Peterson. They need some help in protection, RB, and you never know how Randy Moss will be come training camp.

The Browns do not need Quinn for sure but may take him because they are stupid as @ell!!!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

monte81,

Cleveland is so better off without Quinn. But if they take him......then darn it, they better know how to utilize him or he'll be another Timothy Scott Couch...to be highly touted only to fizzle out of the league.

[OTC TIGER]

monte...With all due respect...Couch came out to early but you couldn't blame him for taking the cash, he was almost exclusively in the Gun and didn't
have near the coaching that Quinn had..IMO

[longtimefirsttime]

"Thomas could be big lift for line"
http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=15974&r=3&Category=2


"Peterson may need another surgery"
http://www.indeonline.com/index.php?ID=15973&r=4&Category=2

[longtimefirsttime]

Draft film for many players:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2007/video/?c=Player&p=86613