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obiefan

02-01-2007, 11:36 PM

KingTiger

02-02-2007, 06:25 AM

:weightlift: THIS BLOWS MY MIND ,THIS COULD ONLY HAPPEN HERE IN TIGERTOWN WITHOUT A LOCAL TAX INCREASE.:gotigers:

tiger74

02-02-2007, 07:07 AM

WOW is right this makes me so happy to be a tiger!!!! :tig: that design looks so awesome. I have a question are we going to be able to have the tiger thats on the front of the design? because I thought we only could use it for 2 years. not trying to be a pooper just wondering. the programs they are talking about sound like it could help some students in there goal to go to college. this is just great we need things like this to help are students better there lives.

CarlE

02-02-2007, 08:04 AM

Gosh how impressive. That is sure something for this city to be proud of. Congrats to all involved. Now, let's make sure that we maximize this facilty!!

giant lugey

02-02-2007, 08:17 AM

Unbelievable....The baseball and softball teams will probably get more use out of it than football..WOW

The Butler

02-02-2007, 08:23 AM

Unbelievable....The baseball and softball teams will probably get more use out of it than football..WOW

Track, golf, soccer, the uses for this facility are endless. There are quite a few colleges that would be proud to have such a facility. Congrats to all involved.

xtiger

02-02-2007, 09:40 AM

Even I am beside myself on this... This is so much more than I ever thought.

I knew something was in the works, but WOW...

Read about it right here...

http://massillonproud.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?category=1&id=1170385027

http://massillonproud.com/graphics/don5/Complex%20pic%201.jpg

WoW is right!!!!! I'm completely blown away here. It once again sets Tigertown out front and in the lead. It's a GREAT day in Tigertown!

Thankyou Mr. David!

GrowlingTiger87

02-02-2007, 09:53 AM

That is absolutely beautiful! All I can say is WOW!

TigerCook

02-02-2007, 10:00 AM

This is unbelieveable......so impressive. Now, I'd like to see a drawing of what the state of the art locker room facility will look like. I've heard it's going to be 3 stories high, with team dressing on first floor, meeting rooms on second floor , and audio-visual rooms on 3rd floor. It's going to be built where the visiting locker room is now....I've heard in 08 that our team will come of that end zone area instead of where we have traditionally come out of....I think it makes sense...that's where the band is, fireworks area, scoreboard end. The visitors will take over the Massillon locker room now. I'm sure some old fogies will bit** about tradition and not wanting to change.........for once, let's all agree this will the best thing to happen in years.

longtimefirsttime

02-02-2007, 11:12 AM

It is an incredible gift. The programs will benefit the community in so many ways. We will be so lucky to have one of the premiere facilities in the country. Thanks to all who made it possible!

GrowlingTiger87

02-02-2007, 02:44 PM

Honestly, that's a tradition that I'm willing to see changed. For what we're getting, it should be without complaint....but you know some in this town still will.

It truly is a beautiful thing!

PDC

02-02-2007, 03:07 PM

Congrats to the City of Massillon. That is one great looking facility.

The best football stadium in Ohio just got a huge upgrade.

Mass6

02-02-2007, 03:14 PM

We truely are very lucky, and that design is outstanding! Thank you againg David Family, Aultman Hospital, and Walsh University!!!!:gotigers:

TigerVic

02-02-2007, 03:16 PM

I have a question are we going to be able to have the tiger thats on the front of the design? because I thought we only could use it for 2 years.

I think this is wonderful. It will be the jewel of the country as far as HS football is concerned (not that PBTS already wasn't!). It might somewhat rival the Woody Hayes facility at OSU!

I, too, am concerned about the leaping tiger, but not only from a legal point of view. It's not my money, but Obie seems to be more appropriate and representative of Massillon through the years!

Mass6

02-02-2007, 03:45 PM

I agree TigerVic about Obie!!!

gotigers1

02-02-2007, 03:49 PM

I am sure the Leaping Tiger is in there for show right now, unless the TigerCats gave us permission to use it for this project. I know you would all like to see obie, but which one do you use? This is going to be used for all sports.

Ok, I am waiting to be flamed.... :obiefanfire:

Banks

02-02-2007, 03:52 PM

Its simple isn't it?

They use the OBIE with the Cap,Scroll and Books

CATS44

02-02-2007, 03:57 PM

I, too, would rather see Obie...but thats nit picking on my part.

When you take into account the total package, there is something that I think I see that I sincerely HOPE our town and administration will work very hard at.

The academic part is aimed at health care related education...both two year and four year college plans. A majority of people in those types of careers are female. This plan, once in place, should attract female students from the surrounding areas. From an athletic point of view, I would hope that we would now begin to emphasize the girls sports, and place the same amount of expectations, commitment, and assets into the girls sports as we do the boys sports.

There is no reason that girls sports should take a secondary position in our school system...and there is no reason that our girls basketball, softball, volleyball, soccer, and track teams shouldnt be among the best in the County.

And I hope we bring in an AD who thinks the same way as I do. We are now certainly going to have the facilities to match anybody.

tgr4lfe

02-02-2007, 05:58 PM

OTC TIGER

02-02-2007, 06:49 PM

LOOkS AWESOME.But how is this project going to be funded after it is finished?It is going to need some funding for general upkeep of the buiding such as to heat ,the electric etc.If a tax is needed i m all for it,but i know there will be a lot of whining about this. whats your thought?

I believe the estimated cost to maintain was about 150k a year which would
possibly include staffing..Hopefully the administration can get creative on
ways to generate revenue, such as renting the use of the facility to some
area schools, teams in the State Championship games may want to practice inside,$$, baseball camps in the winter months,how about a combine like Shepas had a few years ago..ect.

chap

02-02-2007, 07:41 PM

Absolutely Fantastic!:weightlift:

massillonmarine

02-03-2007, 01:09 AM

I was looking at the overhead photo of this. I don't mean to sound ungrateful or anything of that sort, but why not since we have the room, make this facility attach to the high school and stop just short of the baseball fence? Seems to me there is alot of grass on that side. Just a thought.

BTW, that facility looks incredible!

longtimefirsttime

02-03-2007, 01:24 AM

It is my understanding that it will.

obiefan

02-03-2007, 06:42 AM

picture = not to scale...

I was looking at the overhead photo of this. I don't mean to sound ungrateful or anything of that sort, but why not since we have the room, make this facility attach to the high school and stop just short of the baseball fence? Seems to me there is alot of grass on that side. Just a thought.

BTW, that facility looks incredible!

DAWGH8R

02-03-2007, 07:29 AM

Incredible !!

And all this WITHOUT the help of the NFL !! :wink: :wink:

TigerNick

02-03-2007, 07:56 AM

Wow. Truly amazing. Thank you Mr. David, Walsh U., and Aultman.This truly will help Massillon to have one of the greatest High School athletic and academic facilities and in the country with it's already storied history. Very nice and very impressive. I know Paul Brown is smiling down on our Tigertown with joy. Just like the song goes. "Simply The Best"

Keith

02-03-2007, 08:09 AM

:weightlift: THIS BLOWS MY MIND ,THIS COULD ONLY HAPPEN HERE IN TIGERTOWN WITHOUT A LOCAL TAX INCREASE.:gotigers:

Congrats to Massillon for your new facilities. Actually though here in Fremont we rebuilt our football stadium, built a new swimming/wrestling/classroom complex, built a new tennis complex, and built a new baseball complex all with no taxpayer dollars. Over $10,000,000.00 worth of facilities. So while you have every right to be proud about your new facilities, it does happen elsewhere too.:

GrowlingTiger87

02-03-2007, 08:46 AM

Incredible !!

And all this WITHOUT the help of the NFL !! :wink:

H8tr, was that a shot at our "friends" in Canton??? Hmm?

:lol:

CarlE

02-03-2007, 09:22 AM

I believe the estimated cost to maintain was about 150k a year which would
possibly include staffing..Hopefully the administration can get creative on
ways to generate revenue, such as renting the use of the facility to some
area schools, teams in the State Championship games may want to practice inside,$$, baseball camps in the winter months,how about a combine like Shepas had a few years ago..ect.

Some GREAT revenue generating ideas OTC. Hopefully, this is on somebody's radar screen and they are already thinkig of it. The baseball camp scenario is a GREAT idea. Heck you might even get a successful coach in Florida to come participate. But ONLY if XTiger makes an appearance.

Red50Go

02-03-2007, 09:41 AM

Congrats to Massillon for your new facilities. Actually though here in Fremont we rebuilt our football stadium, built a new swimming/wrestling/classroom complex, built a new tennis complex, and built a new baseball complex all with no taxpayer dollars. Over $10,000,000.00 worth of facilities. So while you have every right to be proud about your new facilities, it does happen elsewhere too.:

Thats pretty darn impressive too! How did you accomplish that? And how has it worked out? Maybe we can learn something.

Mass/Ross needs to hook back up. Good luck next year!

TigerBob75

02-03-2007, 10:28 AM

I also agree that this is going to be an awesome facility. Get that leaping Tiger off of there. I know that someone can design OBIE that, standing in front of that big M, will represent. God, bless all those that are involved in getting this project going. And thanks to you all. My daughter will very well use this facility to its fullest.:thumbsup:

xtiger

02-03-2007, 12:34 PM

But ONLY if XTiger makes an appearance.

I will do whatever necessary to help our Tigers!:heee:

gotigers1

02-03-2007, 09:59 PM

:thanx:

Everyone involed on this project deserve a standing ovation! This is such a great thing for our students. I wish now that I was born about 9 years later!

obie7661

02-04-2007, 05:51 AM

Sunday (February 4) Rep article on D.R.E.A.M.

http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=334205&Category=17

Keith

02-04-2007, 08:07 AM

The Fremont Area Athletic Foundation worked hard to raise the funds. They tapped a nationwide base of Ross alums and also worked the business community as well. They started slow but once the group got going the projects just took off. The group knew the voters would never approve such a project so they took it upon themselves to get it done.

Big Ben 66

02-05-2007, 06:43 PM

AWESOME!!!

MTigers006

02-05-2007, 07:19 PM

I think a certain former strength and conditioning coach who is looking down on us would be thrilled with this. Coach Stu would get a big kick out of it. It would also give a nice alternative to the gym for rained out Commencement Ceremonies. I also would like to see Stadium Park turned over to the school district as once discussed by school and city officals at which seemed to have disappeared from the table. This land will be needed for future development. One question also there will come a day when the natatorium at old WHS will need replaced. This was to be originally done when the new WHS was built which was decided it would be built at a latter time. This never got done and it was supposed to go where this facility is proposed to go. Where will it go now if need in the future and what about practicing on natural grass for a upcomming game where they still have a natural surface? I know the band would also appreciate this facility for practicing as well. Im happy about it and thankful. This is something that has been needed for a long time. A former tiger Tuffy Woods says he disappointed this wasnt around in his playing days. lol. This is an investment that will pay for itself in years to come. My only concern is I sure hope they arent gonna replace the home locker rooms. There is alot of ,History,tradition, and memories in that room. Three things that lately dont carry significant meaning anymore in this town.(i.e. Lincoln Theatre, Longfellow, Lorin Andrews,Old WHS, half of downtown.etc) As I mentioned before I hope nothing is drastically changed up at the stadium. Im surprised it wasn't propsed to be demolished and rebuilt. Im not in favor of moving the locker rooms out of the stadium. One thing I think would be a great idea however is sound and monitors in the concourse of the stadium so someone getting a snack or a keepsake can ke3ep tabs of what is going on on the field at all times. This system is currently used in only certain parts of the stadium such as concessions and the box office. I would rebrick the exterior as seen on previous "Walk of Pride" blueprints and drawings which never came to full fruitation. Two last details I would suggest is to make Obie and the name of the stadium backlit as to highlighted with spot lights and most of all bring back the championship banners. We must remember and be proud of our past as we look towards the future. That future that looks bright in Massillon Ohio, The City of Champions.

This is my editorial and sole opinion on this matter and would like to hear your input.

Tiger Bri

02-05-2007, 10:11 PM

I would love to see the championship banners hanging once again.

MTigers006

02-06-2007, 05:30 AM

If I remember right a certain former head coach had them removed from the stadium. God knows where they are now. They was kinda weathered, but im sure they dont cost that much to replace. Perhaps we can mention something to the powers that be???? Maybe GoTigers1 can help us out here since he runs the scoreboard at Tiger Stadium?

OTC TIGER

02-06-2007, 11:16 AM

Practicing on grass is overrated to begin with...However it will be done at the
sports complex on 20th street.

xtiger

02-06-2007, 12:50 PM

Practicing on grass is overrated to begin with...However it will be done at the
sports complex on 20th street.

One should never practice while on grass! lol

macguy

02-06-2007, 02:41 PM

***This is my soapbox speech, not directed to anyone specific, just a general observation***

Should we bring back the championship banners??

ABSOLUTELY!! We need to see those baners hanging from the rafters on the home side. I have been waiting to see them come back for too many years!

Anyone who has ever worn the orange and black should feel some sort of connection to the past. We have the team pictures in the locker rooms. We have all seen the panoramics of the championship teams from the 30's and 40's. Heck, I even have a panoramic of the 1939 team hanging right above my own team pictures at home.

I remember playing on that field and looking up to see the championship banners waving in the wind, drawing some sort of spiritual connection to the players before me. We all have our struggles and disagreements on how things should be done and what should be done by the players, coaches and admin, but the banners are something that hurts no one and hopefully will positively affect former, current and future players.

Bottom line, it is up to us to uphold and keep the tradition of Massillon football and pass it on to the future generations. Do you get rid of your Tiger Football shirts if they barely break .500 for the year? Do we not put up the banners because it has been over 30 years since a state championship? There is too much negativity as of late (workouts, performance of players last year, choice of uniforms, design of the new field turf).

Do you know why Tiger Football was better when you played? Because it was YOU...YOUR experiences...YOUR key blocks...YOUR touchdown run. I'm not saying to minimize what former players have experienced, but do not beat the kids down for being out there. They are trying to make their experiences the best. We have a tough role. We have to allow these kids to make their own memories. BUT...if we don't provide a connection with the past, how will they know where the program has been and how to measure themselves with the past teams?

I tell you what...my 4 yr old daughter loves going to the games (for 2 years now) and my 2 year old son can already recognize Paul Brown (and say his name) from a team photo. They can recognize pics of me in my uniform even though I look vastly different now. She loves to wear her #55 orange Stu t-shirt and you can bet that my son will know who Stu was and what he was about. They will know about George "Red" Bird. They will know who Ducky Schroeder was. I can also guarentee that my brother is doing the same with his children.

It is more than just the football team. It is about everything on a fall Friday night. It all ties together eventually. This new complex will hopefully make everyone aware of some portion of our history (by the name on the front) and give us one more thing to brag about.

Whew...Didn't mean for this to be a rambling post, but just wanted to get some thoughts out.

GO TIGERS!!

OTC TIGER

02-06-2007, 02:50 PM

One should never practice while on grass! lol

That would eliminate practice for most of the NBA :glare:

OTC TIGER

02-06-2007, 02:55 PM

Kamd50

02-06-2007, 02:59 PM

Wonderful post macguy:tig: This generation and the ones to come need to see those banners and feel that same spiritual conncention!

macguy

02-06-2007, 06:50 PM

Thanks Kamd50 and OTC. I would really like to see the traditional banners. Remember them? It wasn't the Obie in the middle, but more of a walking/leaping tiger (more old school, vintage). What about adding regional champ banners from the last couple of decades? I have seen alot of chatter about the amount of regional championships lately compared to other schools, but I was (and remain) focused on the state champ. Just my personal opinion.

MTigers006

02-07-2007, 08:39 AM

I like how you think macguy. Just like it would be a sin to move the locker rooms out of the stadium like I think they are planning to do. I know one thing, its not traditonal, but I sure loved that entrance at the Herbstreet (sp)Challenge last year. WOW

1600TigerFan

02-07-2007, 08:44 AM

MTigers006

02-07-2007, 08:49 AM

Or put the band back in Sec2 where they belong!
Whos stupid idea was it to move them anyways? So the students can hear to talk when they are supposed to be supporting the team? If they wanna chat and hang out go to the poolhall. If you wanna cheer on the team then your more than welcome. Just my 2cents.

Kamd50

02-07-2007, 10:28 AM

Go to the poolhall?:ohplease: How 'bout getting off of the students' backs? That's not what this thread is supposed to be about, is it:notlistening:

CarlE

02-07-2007, 10:36 AM

I don't know where the pool hall thing came from but I DO believe that the band and students should both be in Section 2. Pool hall. Man oh man.

OTC TIGER

02-07-2007, 01:43 PM

I don't know where the pool hall thing came from but I DO believe that the band and students should both be in Section 2. Pool hall. Man oh man.

Pool Hall..:help: How bout just A pool and 85 degrees :coolgleam:

Kamd50

02-07-2007, 02:16 PM

Pool Hall..:help: How bout just A pool and 85 degrees

Haha, that is something that all of Massillon could "get into" right about now:tounge:

CarlE

02-07-2007, 02:22 PM

Well, I can't give you 85, but my pool guy just left and the pool is clean with a fine, clear day fo 73 degrees. Come on DOWN

Kamd50

02-07-2007, 02:28 PM

Oh my gosh, I am sooooooooo envious right now! My kids told me last night that now we know what it must be like to live in Alaska lol! We are soooo going to appreciate spring when it comes around this year!

tiger74

02-07-2007, 07:23 PM

those students where throwing stuff on our band so that was why we moved to the endzone.

1600TigerFan

02-08-2007, 11:52 AM

I still think if the TIGERS come out of the scoreboard endzone area we should move the student section to that end somehow. Then again, how sweet would it be for our kids to throw stuff and yell obscenities as the opposing team comes out......

CarlE

02-08-2007, 11:56 AM

Then again, how sweet would it be for our kids to throw stuff and yell obscenities as the opposing team comes out......

PLEASE tell me this was a sarcastic statement said in jest. PLEASE.

1600TigerFan

02-08-2007, 12:01 PM

You know I was thinking that after I hit the post reply button, hard to tell what tone you are speaking in when you type. I dont have a "National Sarcasm Association" sign in my basement for nothing you know.

1600TigerFan

02-08-2007, 12:02 PM

Im sure our students would be model citizens and treat the opposing teams w/ the respect that we get treated with.

Al.

02-08-2007, 12:54 PM

1600TigerFan

02-08-2007, 01:17 PM

I thought I wrote it in pen, not pencil.....thanks for the tip.

BigE

02-08-2007, 01:42 PM

WHAT AN AWESOME FACILITY TIGERTOWN.GOOD THINGS HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE.CONGRATS AND GO TIGERS!!!FROM THE BIG "E":rockon:

DragonTigerNemesis

02-09-2007, 12:22 PM

I say we move the student section to the scoreboard endzone as part of this "change". They would be by the band, be the first to cheer when the team comes out, and could really create their own identity when it comes to supporting the team.

That's a really strange idea.

The cheerleaders spend most of their time in front of the student section, don't they?

We already have trouble getting the kids to come to the games to support their team, and you want to give them second class seating?

Plus, as I understand it, we moved the band away from the student section because the students kept throwing food at the band, and staining their uniforms.

:vconst:

1600TigerFan

02-09-2007, 01:38 PM

Would it make more sense to move them to Section 1 then ? Just tossing out some ideas, if we are going to be making changes

OTC TIGER

02-09-2007, 03:40 PM

CarlE

02-09-2007, 03:56 PM

Here's an idea...Let's just get students TO THE GAME..I remember when I was
in Elementary School I could hardly wait to go to the games on Friday night,
the student section in the 70's was full from top to bottom with the band
in the student section,somehow we have to get are kids back to the games
Boy the memories of walking to and from games and going to BugerTown:heee:

I'm with you there, OTCTIGER. It's a dang shame the students aren't supporting the team like we used to. We couldn't wait to take off and walk to the games. Always had a blast.

longtimefirsttime

02-10-2007, 12:08 PM

I don't want to paint all students with a broad brush but for the overall rabid fanbase the Tigers have, the student support is rather weak. No matter what you may think about them otherwise, you have to give a school like St. X credit for their student involvement.

ChronicTiger

02-11-2007, 11:33 PM

OTC TIGER

02-12-2007, 11:49 AM

rabid fan base? LOL..............We bring out some good numbers but our fans are far from rabid. I agree the student section is weak but not much can be said for the rest of the crowd............

:coolgleam:

For a lot it's a weekly social event :scratchchin:

And for the life of me I don't understand why half of sections 3&4 leave at
the start of the 4th Quarter no matter the score

longtimefirsttime

02-13-2007, 12:46 AM

rabid fan base? LOL..............We bring out some good numbers but our fans are far from rabid. I agree the student section is weak but not much can be said for the rest of the crowd............

:coolgleam:
Are you serious? Yes attendance is down from the peak steel town days. However attendance averaged over 10-thousand per home date last year for a city of around 32-thousand. People tailgate hours before kickoff. Ask the officials, opposing fans and players if they think we're rabid. They'll tell you.

And I'm really done commenting about that aspect on this thread. It was designed to be positive.

longtimefirsttime

03-05-2007, 10:52 PM

The board has given the official go-ahead.
http://indeonline.com/index.php?ID=14405&r=2&Category=1
(If link doesn't match, try Inde archives)

pup pounder

03-06-2007, 12:43 AM

how does everyone think this project will impact the football program overall,Transferes,reputation,more bad weather practising.The visual impact will be impressive,but is it really going to make us a better football team?I love the idea,But you know everyone will say were all show.

orangeblood

03-06-2007, 07:27 AM

Don't worry about what others say about us, the talkers are primarily from Canton anyway. We will be far better off with this project than without it. Gosh, I hate negativity in any of its forms when our programs are being discussed.