Most Talented

[monte81]

I would like to get some opinions of the best tiger ATHLETE(all sports) in the past 25 years male or female. This topic could get heated and alot of differant answers and opinions about players--Spielman(9 varsity letters), BG(6)??, Travis McGuire(All american in football and district tennis qualifier), Christain Morgan(9 or 10 Varsity letters),etc,.... the list could go on and on!! Let's get the tiger nations opinion!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please vote for a male and female athlete

My votes:

Both from the class of 1988
Male: Jerome Myricks-- 10 Varsity Letters in football, bball, and track
Female: Kelly Bodiford--9 Varsity Letters in volleyball. bball, and track

Hon Mention:
Male:2002 Shawn Crable had 11 Varsity letters in football, bball, and track tied 100 meter record (but he is my cousin and I would not want to be biased!!!:laughing:
Female:1988 Chi Chi Crenshaw-- 9 varsity letters and teammate of Bodiford--best one/two punch we ever had in female sports I know of. That bball team of Sissy Hooton, Tottie Porrini, and Kristi Fabianich was real special my junior year!!!


ITS THE OFF SEASON AND WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING!!!!!

[longtimefirsttime]

Are we talking solely about their time as a Tiger or what they did at other levels?

[sly4458]

brian gamble. best we have seen and will see for awhile.

[monte81]

Are we talking solely about their time as a Tiger or what they did at other levels?

3 or 4 year tiger career ONLY-- if we were going on all accomplishments Chris Spielman would win habds down--- but alot of 3 sport athletes have dominated during their time at Massillon!

[ChronicTiger]

David Grim....

Why the all time points leader for Tiger Hoops does not have a spot in our trophy case has always been a mystery to me....

[Smitty]

I'll throw out the name of Willie Spencer Jr... with no knowledge of his non-football sports activity (if any).

[Red50Go]

I'll give a shout to fellow classmate Jim Bush. Went to state in wrestling, track, football. Coulda been a very good bball player too.

God rest his soul.

[TigerCoach]

Are we basing this poll on the number of varsity letters won? Or, the impact they had as a Tiger only?

If your talking overall careers, I'd also throw out Willie Spencer, who went from WHS to the CFL and eventually the NFL. Also, Tom Hannon, who went to Michigan State and played in the NFL for 10-12 years. Also, don't forget Dennis Franklin, runner-up for the Heisman Trophy in 1974 (?). Chris Spielman has to be in the running also.

[monte81]

Are we basing this poll on the number of varsity letters won? Or, the impact they had as a Tiger only?

If your talking overall careers, I'd also throw out Willie Spencer, who went from WHS to the CFL and eventually the NFL. Also, Tom Hannon, who went to Michigan State and played in the NFL for 10-12 years. Also, don't forget Dennis Franklin, runner-up for the Heisman Trophy in 1974 (?). Chris Spielman has to be in the running also.


I was going on tiger sports ONLY--I picked Jerome because he started at every sport--every year at WHS playing both ways as a soph in football

[TigerDL71]

are we baseing this on number of letters earned or the overall impact of that particular person?

[monte81]

are we baseing this on number of letters earned or the overall impact of that particular person?


Your choice!!!!!

[TigerDL71]

kreg rhothoff had to have won at least 6 varsity letters im not sure though but i do know he was a good swimmer for 4 years and also started on varsity football at center for 2 years

[Al.]

I thought Tom Hannon's NFL career was 8 years with Minnesota (1977-1984). However I don't remember whether he played for any other NFL teams.

[TigerCoach]

I thought Tom Hannon's NFL career was 8 years with Minnesota (1977-1984). However I don't remember whether he played for any other NFL teams.

That may be true, I dunno? I was just estimating.

[longtimefirsttime]

On Hannon:
http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=HANNOTOM01

[TigerDL71]

what about coach studer? he went to the state tourney in wrestling and was the center for the tigers on one of their state championship teams

[OTC TIGER]

brian gamble. best we have seen and will see for awhile.

Don't forget, Brian also lettered this year in Golf..:gasp:

[Chubby Tiger]

My vote would go to Shawn Crable... he could dominate in all 3 sports he participated in.

[91' alum]

brian gamble. best we have seen and will see for awhile.BG is a great athlete no doubt. But a young man named Justin Turner has me very intrigued! He could be another "Quiet Storm"!

[CarlE]

There was a baseball player back in the mid-70s. One GREAT athlete that should probably get some mention here. LOL, I'm KILLING myself here.

Seriously, I don't know a lot of these young men, but dang Spielman was somthing else.

[monte81]

BG is a great athlete no doubt. But a young man named Justin Turner has me very intrigued! He could be another "Quiet Storm"!


JT will an all american if he continues to work hard and stays focused--cant let all the talk of greatness get to him. I feel he can be better than my brother Travis at RB!!! He will be a beast to contend with the next 2 years!!

[91' alum]

JT will an all american if he continues to work hard and stays focused--cant let all the talk of greatness get to him. I feel he can be better than my brother Travis at RB!!! He will be a beast to contend with the next 2 years!!
I love his quiet demeanor. Something I always respected about your brother. Always very professional.

[CATS44]

If we are talking the last 25 years, IMO its Spielman and Bodiford.

[LakeCountyTiger]

This thread is both interesting and sort of sucks.. Interesting because, well it is... sucks because these guys names your throwing around, Spielman, Myricks, Travis etc, well it doesn't seem possible they played that long ago and I'm really feeling old right now. Really though it is fun to talk about it.. One thing for sure there has been a ton of big time talent..... Being a lifetime out of towner I really only saw these guys on the football field so I'm not going to vote... Did that one McGuire kid play other sports? I think his name was Monte, he rocked in football...

[longtimefirsttime]

Did that one McGuire kid play other sports? I think his name was Monte, he rocked in football...

I suspect you'll get an answer to this very shortly.

[Smitty]

There was a baseball player back in the mid-70s. One GREAT athlete that should probably get some mention here. LOL, I'm KILLING myself here....

You MUST be thinking of Mark "Bop" Streeter.

Or Keith Herring?

NO??

:jestera:

[mike_da_man13]

what about coach null?
all ohio in both basketball and football not many massillon athletes can claim that

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

BG is a great athlete no doubt. But a young man named Justin Turner has me very intrigued! He could be another "Quiet Storm"!

The son of the loving Tonja and dignified Paul Turner...Justin is already making a big name in Massillon. He has the record for most touchdowns scored as a freshman and is already a crowd-pleaser in basketball.

Also, owning a 3.3 grade-point average in the classroom...he's making a case for most talented. Add in that he has a strong family supporting him, there is no limit to what he can do!

*Half of his 32 touchdowns in his career are from 50 or more yards!

[crackerman]

I am being very serious here.....when you talk about the best athlete to come out of Massillon in the past 25 years....how can you even dare throw in the name of a kid who is only a sophmore? I am not taking away that the kid has a chance to be very special...but come on. As of this date, you can not put him in the same league as some of the guys from Massillon their senior years. And if you truly believe you can then you might as well go spit in those guys' faces, the guys and girls that were All-Americans. I'm not being mean but lets please be realistic here.

[crackerman]

*Half of his 32 touchdowns in his career are from 50 or more yards!

NO offense, but come on Keno. Your really keeping track of what the kid did at the freshman and jr. high levels? Kid is has a chance to be great, but let's throw in "career" numbers on a kid who is just a sophmore and those records date back to jr. high.

[monte81]

I suspect you'll get an answer to this very shortly.

Funny LIFT---- I was just a average linebacker that played a little college ball but I did average 20+ in junior high and dressed varsity in bball my soph year but didn't play jr. or sr. year because of that football thing!! I really didnt have much talent in any other sports! My brother played Tennis and Golf in high school---I could never play either!!!!

Keno-- I agree with Cracker that JT has great potential but this is not a thread for him until he puts up those numbers on the varsity level. The players mentioned in this thread have been beasts from midget league to college!! Jerome averaged 3 TD's a game and 25 points a game in bball while at Longfellow and started in EVERY VARSITY game his whole career--both ways as a soph in football playing several positions---RB, FS, Corner, WR, and Flanker--you are to young to remember the famous #1---best athlete I ever suited up with or against in my life and I have played against NFL and NBA players! Top 10 in scoring(bball) and rushing in his career!!!! Putting him in with Spielman and all the other greats right now is real crazy but flattering for a young player!!

Oh-- JT's uncle Darrayl Turner was the Stark County leading scorer 3 years in a row--- best stroke on a jump shot I know. He still can be found at Shriver park in the summer draining threes! He has not surpassed his father or uncle in achievemants in high school yet!!!

[TIGER27]

I was really good at 4 year old soccer

[ChronicTiger]

Oh-- JT's uncle Darrayl Turner was the Stark County leading scorer 3 years in a row--- best stroke on a jump shot I know. He still can be found at Shriver park in the summer draining threes! He has not surpassed his father or uncle in achievemants in high school yet!!!

Turner was one of the best I have seen.

[austinsm11]

I don't really think you can go by number of letters earned to claim who the best athlete or most talented is. I suspect if some players tried other sports instead of concentrating on 1 or 2 that they could have had many more letters.

[monte81]

I don't really think you can go by number of letters earned to claim who the best athlete or most talented is. I suspect if some players tried other sports instead of concentrating on 1 or 2 that they could have had many more letters.


True-- many plyaers that were excellant athletes just played the sport to get them a deal--I was better than average in bball but a 6'2" center doesn't cut it in college at ANY level and stopped running track also after soph year---Coach Stu's workout program was needed to strenghten my bad shoulder.

Chronictiger--- can you critic my bball skills for me please???????

You can vote/nominate/write in anyone you feel worhty of consideration in your opinion!! The best athlete could be a player who only played one sport-- but domination would be the key!!!

[1977Tiger]

I bet nobody will remember these two. If not for their being academically challenged and probably hard to coach, everyone would be mentioning them. Kenny, aka BooBoo, at about 210 lbs, was talked into wrestling for the 1st time at WHS and went to the state heavyweight final 3 years in a row, only to lose to a 300+ pound three-time champion by 1 or two points each time. It was incredible! He was absolutely scary on the football field too as a defensive takle in the one year he was talked into playing. Tommy once hit a baseball over the railroad tracks at the bottoms field when he was 13. He was the only person I ever saw hit a SOFTBALL over the old Agathon fence. If he would have stayed out of trouble, Bill Harmon would have been second-string or blocking for Tommy. I know these two don't exactly meet the criteria of greatest WHS athletes, but they had the greatest potential I ever saw. Brent Offenbecher was a three sport letterman. He probably still holds the pole vault record.

The mid-70's basketball player someone mentioned had to be Michael Swann.

[angelinamarie]

I'll give a shout to fellow classmate Jim Bush. Went to state in wrestling, track, football. Coulda been a very good bball player too.

God rest his soul.

I have to agree with you on this one.
Jim was my brother-in-law...very loved and very missed.

[CarlE]

I bet nobody will remember these two. If not for their being academically challenged and probably hard to coach, everyone would be mentioning them. Kenny, aka BooBoo, at about 210 lbs, was talked into wrestling for the 1st time at WHS and went to the state heavyweight final 3 years in a row, only to lose to a 300+ pound three-time champion by 1 or two points each time. It was incredible! He was absolutely scary on the football field too as a defensive takle in the one year he was talked into playing. Tommy once hit a baseball over the railroad tracks at the bottoms field when he was 13. He was the only person I ever saw hit a SOFTBALL over the old Agathon fence. If he would have stayed out of trouble, Bill Harmon would have been second-string or blocking for Tommy. I know these two don't exactly meet the criteria of greatest WHS athletes, but they had the greatest potential I ever saw. Brent Offenbecher was a three sport letterman. He probably still holds the pole vault record.

The mid-70's basketball player someone mentioned had to be Michael Swann.

You are ABSOLUTELY right. Tommy Cleveland was a freaking STUD. Played baseball with him for years. Dude scared the crap out of me but it was all good because my Mom and Grandma took care of him and drove him to all our games. He was a freaking speciman I'm telling you. Same with Boo-Boo. Dude scared me and I just stayed on his good side. Nice memory there 1977Tiger.

[monte81]

I bet nobody will remember these two. If not for their being academically challenged and probably hard to coach, everyone would be mentioning them. Kenny, aka BooBoo, at about 210 lbs, was talked into wrestling for the 1st time at WHS and went to the state heavyweight final 3 years in a row, only to lose to a 300+ pound three-time champion by 1 or two points each time. It was incredible! He was absolutely scary on the football field too as a defensive takle in the one year he was talked into playing. Tommy once hit a baseball over the railroad tracks at the bottoms field when he was 13. He was the only person I ever saw hit a SOFTBALL over the old Agathon fence. If he would have stayed out of trouble, Bill Harmon would have been second-string or blocking for Tommy. I know these two don't exactly meet the criteria of greatest WHS athletes, but they had the greatest potential I ever saw. Brent Offenbecher was a three sport letterman. He probably still holds the pole vault record.

The mid-70's basketball player someone mentioned had to be Michael Swann.



Charles Swan and Michael were beasts on the basketball court-- I witnessed many pick up games at Shriver park as a kid--- bad @ss ball players in their time!

Charles Swan--- RIP!!!! I remember all the tools given to me and my brother Travis coming up from all the old school legands and appreciate all the help growing up because my mother was busy working and the neigborhood kept her kids well why she provided!! The SE community helped us become men!!!!

[1600TigerFan]

I'll give a nomination for HACK, during my time at WHS he was the possibly the best athlete / competitor we had. Although we did have one other great athlete that never applied himself that probably could have been considered in this conversation, think his name was Maurice......Hack or Cracker can you help me here ?

[ChronicTiger]

I'll give a nomination for HACK, during my time at WHS he was the possibly the best athlete / competitor we had. Although we did have one other great athlete that never applied himself that probably could have been considered in this conversation, think his name was Maurice......Hack or Cracker can you help me here ?

Are talking about Maurice Cunnigham? He was a great baller that I remember as a hard worker.

Tootie Howard was a great baller also.......

[1600TigerFan]

Thats who it was, he could have been a stud at football and track, if he had tried. Just an opinion though.

[TigerCoach]

I was really good at 4 year old soccer

Did you win a trophy?

[ChronicTiger]

Brandon Jackson!!!

Not only was he a good football player but for his size he had a sweet touch from the outside on the basketball court! He had the green light from coach Null to put it up from three at any time. Does anyone remember the couple treys he dropped in from the corner at the civic center against the pups? What a great win that was.......

[ChronicTiger]

Thats who it was, he could have been a stud at football and track, if he had tried. Just an opinion though.

I didnt know he participated in those other sports, did he? He tried at hoops!

[TigerLoverFromAfar]

I would have to throw out there Bones..and even Lonnie Simpson. I mean I don't think Willie is it, but I was thinking like Falando Ashcraft too.

[1600TigerFan]

Willie was more than just better than either bones or lonnie. Willie was in league of his own, trust me on that one. Brandon was also a very good shot put thrower in track - may be the best athlete we have ever had over 300 lbs. Maurice came out for football but quit.

[obie0130]

from our years at WHS i am with 1600, hack and maurice. maurice could have done just about anything he wanted to athletically, if he chose to. we all know how hack turned out.

[1600TigerFan]

Suppose we should give an honorable mention to BJ too, he was a 3 sport guy, never questioned his heart or desire to win to go along w/ talent. He wasnt gonna wow you at the combine, but could show up on the field and hit a baseball, plus i am pretty sure he liked rolling around in tights with other guys and was good at that.......

[TigerLoverFromAfar]

How about Bernard Jefferson?

[91' alum]

Anybody know what happened to Donny Blake? There's a kid back in school that was loaded with talent! Multiple sport athlete and a darn good one!

[monte81]

Thats who it was, he could have been a stud at football and track, if he had tried. Just an opinion though.

Maurice Cunningham is my cousin anf when they moved here from Kentucky I thought he would be a stud in Football but only was interested in bball!! 1993 we finally beat McKinley in bball after almost 10-15 years without a victory led by Maurice and Rufus Williams!

Donny Blake was an athlete that was always better than others around him---to bad he transfered to Timken his senior year--- could you have seen Donny, Travis, and Falando in the backfield!!! He felt that he couldn't get enough reps in the backfield--- was a preety good junior college player as well!!! 1989 Mass/McK---remember the kickoff return he had-started the crowd and team to steam roll the pups at Fawcett!

[browns82]

Matt Swank-1987

[TigerLoverFromAfar]

I remember Maurice now- he ran at LA with me..with Rufus, and I ain't seen Donnie in forever...man, talk about blast from the past.

[TigerCoach]

You can tell the age of some of you posters by the people you are nominating. I'm not nominating anyone because how do you compare an athlete from the 70's & 80's to the kids of the 90's & today? It's just an opinion. Heck, I had 8 varsity letters, was All-Ohio in 2 sports, played 3, scholarship offers in 2 sports, yada yada, yada....but I don't consider myself one of the best athletes. But, interesting conversation in the winter!

[OTC TIGER]

TigerCoach..this just occured to me..How many Varsity Letters are in the Family :help:

[Kamd50]

Now come on TC, don't be modest, LOL ! As per our last convo.....see, "she" was right, you were even successful back in the day:wink:

[TigerCoach]

TigerCoach..this just occured to me..How many Varsity Letters are in the Family :help:

22 by my best count, and that is with the 9th grade being seperate from the high school. I would guess that playing baseball as a freshman would have added 3 more between my brothers & I.

[OTC TIGER]

22 by my best count, and that is with the 9th grade being seperate from the high school. I would guess that playing baseball as a freshman would have added 3 more between my brothers & I.

Not to change the theme of the thread, but I wonder how many are in the
Spicer Family (Mike,Mark, ect.)

[TigerCoach]

That is an intersting topic, most letters by a family? Remember, there are 2 Spicer families. One from the West side, the other from the sissy side! LOL!!

[monte81]

That is an intersting topic, most letters by a family? Remember, there are 2 Spicer families. One from the West side, the other from the sissy side! LOL!!

Just because you were a dragon doesn't mean the Poets are sissies!!!! Some of us had no choice because of the SE split when jones closed and Longfellow dominated all sports in my TC---- McGuires, Myricks, Sigenthaler, D. Blake, Sparkman, Dixon, Pierce, Menches etc,.... my senior year 17 of the 22 starting positions were from Longfellow!!!!!!
LA was more like Puff the Magic Dragon when I was in school---blowing out nothing but hot air(loses)!!!!!!

[TigerCoach]

Just because you were a dragon doesn't mean the Poets are sissies!!!! Some of us had no choice because of the SE split when jones closed and Longfellow dominated all sports in my TC---- McGuires, Myricks, Sigenthaler, D. Blake, Sparkman, Dixon, Pierce, Menches etc,.... my senior year 17 of the 22 starting positions were from Longfellow!!!!!!
LA was more like Puff the Magic Dragon when I was in school---blowing out nothing but hot air(loses)!!!!!!

That's like when Warren Western Reserve merged with Warren Harding, they became a power. When the Jones Cherokees went down in history, most of those guys went to Longfellow because the Green Dragons were so strong. It was their only chance to see the field.

[Kamd50]

LOL, you tell him Monte! And let's not forget "THE beast from the East, Mike Mauger.....or those studly Studer boys:thumbsup:

[browns82]

Monte, I can't believe the listing of Matt Swank could not get a rise out of you.

[monte81]

Monte, I can't believe the listing of Matt Swank could not get a rise out of you.

I was trying to be nice but any players that were called the "toast bunch" CANNOT be listed as one of the best athletes in the last 25 years!!!!!! Just a few of his teammates(upperclassmen) that were better:
Jerome Myricks
John Miller
CJ Harris
Mike Wilson
Bart Lectivits
Andre Horner etc,...

I dont know if he is better known for the TD's he gave up or the locker room fight!!!!!!! They learned not mess with sophmores!!!!!

[monte81]

That's like when Warren Western Reserve merged with Warren Harding, they became a power. When the Jones Cherokees went down in history, most of those guys went to Longfellow because the Green Dragons were so strong. It was their only chance to see the field.

LA needed us those years--they went 5/6 years without winning a city championship at any level!!!!

Kamd50---your husband was undefeated as a coach in the 80's at longfellow!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kamd50]

You got that right Monte:rockin:

[TigerCoach]

Good thing he wasn't there in the late 70's. They would be calling him Coach "Lloyd Carr" R.......!

[Kamd50]

Haha, you're soooo funny TC! However, he was fortunate enough to be at LA for many years prior as well with winning teams in both football and bball when the Ashcrafts and some other posters were on some of his teams. Win, win.

[longtimefirsttime]

I'm surprised Keno hasn't mentioned TP. :help2:

[Hack]

Kam, I know he was at Longfellow for some wins in that rivalry. From what I remember he was a good running backs coach. Those years in Massillon probably had to be my favorite. I would like to coach at the middle school someday.

[monte81]

I'm surprised Keno hasn't mentioned TP. :help2:

HAhahaha you had me laughing on this thread twice now---he couldn't see the field with Ramier Martin, Troy Manion, and Desmond Carpenter at WR's----- thats why he is a sports writer--no athletic talent at all!!

[TigerVic]

Monte- TP is a sports writer? I thought he was at the Canton Fishrep just to rile Tiger fans up- that is called an "instigator".

[Red50Go]

Good thing he wasn't there in the late 70's. They would be calling him Coach "Lloyd Carr" R.......!

You're dreaming. Late 70's were no different. Longfellow rocked. Seriously though I vividly remember some of the runs you and Dave Clemens had. What a great athlete he was also, before his horrible injury.

[UnionTiger]

Those so called "sissy's" from the Spicer Poet side of Massillon turned out pretty well. Mike lead Tigers in tackles his Sr. year went on scholarship to YSU. He was picked as player of the 80's for the program done in 1991. Brian played sparingly in high school football because of a sholder injury, dominated the baseball field and was all over in centerfield. By far was the fastest (beat craig johnson in race before baseball practice once) his senior year,qaulified for state in wrestling and on top of that went to WEST POINT! And was voted MVP of the Army/ Navy game his senior year. Bruce set many records as a WR and went to YSU also to play for Tessel and has a DI AA Championship Ring! Played basketball and baseball also. Kevin played and lettered his jr and sr year in football but was the baseball player of his time. Played in college and then played in the Reds organization for a short time.

But I personally thought that a kid Named John Franke was an ANIMAL! He played D-line in the 82-84 years and was a beast! He also wrestled and was awesome to watch. As a jr. high kid I was amazed at his work ethic and domination.
And for who cares, as a player at Longfellow we never lost a game from 7th to 9th. :gotigers:

[UnionTiger]

One person that I coached and thought was a Great Tiger was Lee Hurst. He played baseball as a frosh and was not in the High school yet cause of the old setup. He was a tough QB and played hoops as well. He just seemed akward at everything, but to coach... he got it done on all "playing surfaces".

[Kamd50]

Kam, I know he was at Longfellow for some wins in that rivalry. From what I remember he was a good running backs coach. Those years in Massillon probably had to be my favorite. I would like to coach at the middle school someday.

On my husband's behalf, thank you Hack. He thinks highly of you, as do all Massillon fans:wink: Who knows, you two may end up coaching together eventually if he stays out there.

There were a lot of good kids who came up through both of the Jr. Highs during those years. The coaching staffs at both were exceptional....a great group of guys(and friends) who truely had the kids' best interests at heart and loved what they did.

[DAWGH8R]

TigerCoach played on that FAMOUS LA Dragon team that went undefeated and unscored upon in 1977 !! :rockin: :ers:

[crackerman]

I can tell you this from my senior year...starters and the jr hi they attended.

Defense first of course:
NG Longfellow sr
DT Longfellow sr
DT LA sr
E Longfellow sr
E Longfellow sr
LB Longfellow sr
LB Longfellow sr
CB Longfellow sr
CB Longfellow sr
SS Longfellow sr
FS Longfellow jr

Offense:
QB LA sr
FB LA sr
TB Longfellow sr
TE Longfellow sr ( i think he went to Long, I know he was a move in)
WR Longfellow sr
WR Longfellow sr
C LA sr
G Longfellow sr
G LA sr
T Longfellow sr
T Longfellow sr

1st off.....21 senior starters is pretty damn good. No one started both ways. 17 of 22 starters were from Longfellow. This was a playoff team as well. and I think it says a lot that 10 out of 11 defensive starters were from Longfellow especially when LA was suppose to be the "tough" school.

[crazysob04]

i believe a former tiger by the name of keith wade hit double digits in varsity letters earned. tremandous athlete for a kid of his size as he excelled at the varsity level in football, swimming and baseball.

[1600TigerFan]

i agree w/ TC on this one, probably need to keep the comparisons to 4-8 yr increments, too hard to compare generations, just like its hard to compare the 70 tigers to the 91 tigers ........... who had the most potential but never tapped into it ? I say Chris Roth from 1990.

[ChronicTiger]

........... who had the most potential but never tapped into it ? I say Chris Roth from 1990.

NOT even close with that one. Sad to say but this is a long and distinguished list. I would even include the ones that had a great career at massillon and didnt take it to the next level (relford, i wish him well) as well as the ones who I thought could have been great but were content to be average.

[OTC TIGER]

I say Chris Roth from 1990.

Chris had one of the best stiff arms I've seen...30 yards to the end zone..1990 McKinley Game :rockin:

[TigerCoach]

Hey Carle, what do you think of the Poets being sissies?

[Kamd50]

Stop already, TC! You can't argue with Cracker's post tough guy:jestera:

[CarlE]

Hey Carle, what do you think of the Poets being sissies?

My friend, they are NOT sissies. They are P***IES!!! Bunch of cake-eating East-Siders!!! Ha Ha. West is, was, and always WILL be best!

[ChronicTiger]

Chris had one of the best stiff arms I've seen...30 yards to the end zone..1990 McKinley Game :rockin:

When I think of Roth that play comes to mind, awesome. Didnt Ramir have a heck of a catch on our sideline going toward the scoreboard in that game also?

Does anyone remember the bball game that year at jackson? REAL NICE.

[OTC TIGER]

[QUOTE=ChronicTiger;34996] Didnt Ramir have a heck of a catch on our sideline going toward the scoreboard in that game also?

QUOTE]

Ramier's Sr. season would have been in 1989..Game was at Fawcett in which
we dominated..the catch you are thinking of came in the South end zone at
Fawcett and indeed was a spectacular catch one in which he out leaped two
defenders and came down in bounds :2thumbsup:

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

You know...I cannot believe just how these guys have gone up in age. Carpenter is 35, Martin is 35, Porter is 35, Silverthorn is 35, (Tom) Menches is 35......YET THEY ALL DON'T LOOK THEIR AGES!!!!!!!

[crackerman]

My friend, they are NOT sissies. They are P***IES!!! Bunch of cake-eating East-Siders!!! Ha Ha. West is, was, and always WILL be best!

Carle, lets be realistic ...you know what this Longfellow P***y would do to you....well then again thats unless TC helped you out by head butting me all the way from Summit County....which by the size of his head, is possible.

[CarlE]

Carle, lets be realistic ...you know what this Longfellow P***y would do to you....well then again thats unless TC helped you out by head butting me all the way from Summit County....which by the size of his head, is possible.

Listen, here PAL. I've been hanging out down here with The Hulkster and I've learned some moves with my steel chair. Now if I have to come up there and show you what I've learned I WILL. Otherwise you Poets are just what I said you were. Now come and get you some, Mister.

P.S. I DID like the head butt comment though. Pretty funny. Get him TC.

[monte81]

Carle, lets be realistic ...you know what this Longfellow P***y would do to you....well then again that's unless TC helped you out by head butting me all the way from Summit County....which by the size of his head, is possible.

Crackerman--- CarlE and TC know full well that Longfellow was by far the better program!!! They are the only 2 people that cannot except that. Look at the overall records since the closing of Jones and Longfellow dominated from 83-89 easy and maybe longer! I was there from 83-86 and we went undefeated and won the city championship all 3 years at all grades--TOTAL DOMINATION!!!!! In a tag team match-- Crackerman-- you and I would destroy them!!!

TC---your head reminds me of wrestler "The Missing Link" and CarlE could be Jimmy "the mouth" Hart with all that smack he talks!!!!!! :jestera: LOL!!!!!

[TigerCoach]

As a true DRAGON WARRIOR, I refuse to respond to such name-calling tactics........by a bunch of P*&&IES!!!:notlistening:

[monte81]

As a true DRAGON WARRIOR, I refuse to respond to such name-calling tactics........by a bunch of P*&&IES!!!:notlistening:

Ask your little brother how many games he won in junior high school in 3 years--- goose egg against the @ussies!!!

[TigerCoach]

My brothers are soft, unlike me!!!!

[monte81]

My brothers are soft, unlike me!!!!

Your little bro had hands and didn't drop nothing my senior year!! However most Wr's do not like alot of contact. Where is he at anyway TC??

[crackerman]

In a easy comparison....of the 2 jr. highs Longfellow was the Massillon....LA was the Mckinley.

[BUCKEYE1]

When I think of Roth that play comes to mind, awesome. Didnt Ramir have a heck of a catch on our sideline going toward the scoreboard in that game also?

Does anyone remember the bball game that year at jackson? REAL NICE.I remember a bball game at Jackson years ago Massillon was down 16 going into the 4th quarter and Lonnie Harper stole the ball and won the game for Massillon.If I remember there was a near riot that night.Is that the game you are referring to?:usflag:

[CarlE]

In a easy comparison....of the 2 jr. highs Longfellow was the Massillon....LA was the Mckinley.

What the H*** are you talking about, Little Man. L.A. IS Massillon. Now about that tag-team match. I am IN, BROTHER.

Can you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell what CarlE is cookin'????

[monte81]

What the H*** are you talking about, Little Man. L.A. IS Massillon. Now about that tag-team match. I am IN, BROTHER.

Can you smeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell what CarlE is cookin'????

Piledriver coming your way CarlE and afterwards I will buy you a corona and Johnny Walker!!!!! Longfellow was the KING of Stark County Football and LA was the patsy or cupcake on the schedule--- the most embarasing thing is we had to whoop on them twice in a season---so hardheaded and stubborn just like you and TC!!!!!!!!