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crackerman
01-09-2007, 07:08 AM
I am just still amazed the day after. Im not the biggest Buckeye fan in the world but wow. 3 critical things that decided the outcome.
1) Tressel never established the running game
2) Blitzed maybe once the whole game, rushed only 3.
3) Your defense finally makes a stop and with 5 minutes left in the 2nd,
your down 10 and you go for it at your own 29. You just told your
team you have no chance at winning.

Everyone laughed when I said that Louisville could put up 38 on OSU, everyone said it couldnt be done and the last 2 games of the year both teams put that many on them. I was very disapointed with the defensive game plan.

Dr Strangemind
01-09-2007, 07:45 AM
There WAS no defensive game plan.

DPdad
01-09-2007, 08:18 AM
The defense played very conservative all night. No pressure on the Florida QBs at all, usually rushing only 3 or 4 linemen. Very surprised by that scheme.

O-line was manhandled by the Florida defensive front. Troy Smith never had a chance. I also thought the Buckeyes gave up too soon on the running game. The series in the 2nd quarter where they threw three straight passes and went three and out was a surprise, because the Buckeyes had just scored on the Gators with the running game.

Tressel was outcoached from start to finish. The injury to Ginn hurt the offense more than I would have expected it to. Huge disappointment. Now, winter really begins.

TigerVic
01-09-2007, 08:22 AM
It looked like they had a nice vacation out there, though.

monte81
01-09-2007, 08:49 AM
Crackerman,
The defensive scheme didn't work because you cannot defend the spread offense especially all the weird formations Florida shows with a soft zone! Where was the blitz schemes and press coverage used against Michigan??? Freeman and Lauranitis(sp) looked like they were the only defensive players that came to play!! Florida was dominating the speed aspect of the game--I keep saying that backside DE or OLB's have to blocked in High School and college(against elite teams) but coaches do not seem to feel it is neccesary--backside rush kills and OSU had tackles blocking tackles on the backside leaving the fastest DE's in the nation unblocked?????? The oline was stinking up the place all night on pass protection!!
Pittman averaged 5.3 yards a carry in the 1st half and I disagreed with the 4th and 1 call on your 29 yard line! Panic set in after Florida went up 21-7!!

OSU looked like the tiger offense without Gamble this year when Ginn went out! OSU showed us that Ginn might be the best player thay have(had??) because the field was shut down vertically and Florida just played man to man on the rest of the team. Smith was definitely lost and out of sync without the protection or ginn's vertical explosion.
I think he was hurt on the celebration when his teammates tackled him--limped off after the TD.

Never under estimate your opponent and Florida played with a chip because noone gave them a chance!!! I always liked going into a big game as the underdog--makes you more hungry!!!!

MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp
01-09-2007, 09:07 AM
My heart goes out to MTown, longtimefirsttime, Kamd50, Bambo, and anyone else who is an Ohio State fan. No one saw that loss coming...a devastating one at that.

Don't let this one loss take away what they accomplished this year or the last three years for that matter.

TigerDL71
01-09-2007, 10:22 AM
Tressel was WAY too scared of flordia's speed, on defenese they weren't attacking at all and letting everything come to them, heck they were soo scared they kept playing a really soft zone leaving everything down low wide open, i don't understand why OSU just didn't blitz some more and run man, heck they don't have to blitz still rush 3 or 4 and run man with the safteys in a deep zone behind to allow the corners some lee way if they do get burnt, i can kinda understand not blitzing because you are already down but it wasn't a big defcit, Ohio state came out and pretty much got smacked in the mouth and the coaching staff started panicing and got away from their game plan on both sides of the ball,did pittman even make the trip out to glendale? he was looking great and the game was still close and osu still never gave him the ball, troy smith was trying to do way tooo much and that may have been the worst performance by a heisman winner ever, i don't understand why maybe tressel didn't honestly go to zwick at some point, he is a senior and its his last game, whats the worst that could happen he does just as bad as troy smith? also what the heck is up with teddy ginn? okay i really don't know how bad he was hurt but ITS THE LAST GAME OF THE FREAKING SEASON, you have all summer to heal up, if you are playing for your team i wouldn't let no one tell me that i can't play in that game, seems to me he was thinking more about all the money he might be able to make next season in the nfl


also.....all you people who have been saying make troy smith a buckeye i hope the browns draft troy.....after watching this BCS title game and watching brady Quinn against LSU are you still really sure you want to draft either of them?

TigerVic
01-09-2007, 10:27 AM
it is difficult to comprehend that a team like OSU could be routed at all by another college team. It reminds me of the Tigers against Moeller in '06, although it was different football circumstances (our own turnovers) that made that a rout.

OTC TIGER
01-09-2007, 10:49 AM
Both teams lose alot to graduation and or early to the NFL

USC opens 07 @ #1
Michigan @ #2

The Butler
01-09-2007, 12:55 PM
That was just plain brutal to watch last night.

gotigers1
01-09-2007, 12:59 PM
Thank god I am sick, and didn't stay up and watch the whole game!

TigerCoach
01-09-2007, 01:08 PM
I don't know why.....

1) The Buckeyes didn't run the ball all night? (Pittman only had 9 carries for 61 yards)
2) The defense didn't apply more pressure?
3) The LB's and DB's gave so much cushion to the Gator receivers?
4) Coach Tressel elected to go for it on 4th & 1 at their own 29?
5) The Buckeyes even bothered to play last night?

OTC TIGER
01-09-2007, 01:49 PM
Even with sucking up the joint last night..The Ohio State University will still
cash that big fat BCS check..:jestera:

Marie
01-09-2007, 01:56 PM
It looked like the Browns were playing last night. I went to bed at the end of the 3rd quarter hoping for a comeback miracle, but there was none to be had.

Obie Wan
01-09-2007, 02:42 PM
OSU looked like the tiger offense without Gamble this year when Ginn went out!
That is exactly what I was thinking.

Or put another way: Florida ran the offense Stacy wants to run; OSU ran the offense Stacy does run.

TigerBuckeye313
01-09-2007, 03:08 PM
That game was a JOKE!



:wtf:

CarlE
01-09-2007, 03:10 PM
I can't believe the 4th down call and the fact that we didn't try to establish the running game. I turned to the guy next to me after Ginn ran the opening kickoff back and said that was the worst thing that could happen to us. And it was.

OTC TIGER
01-09-2007, 04:11 PM
This may not involve the Game directly but did any one else here the
ridiculous comment about Ted Ginn Sr. being a "lengendary high school football coach in the state of Ohio" :doh:

What does that make Kyle & Reno at Stuebenville or Paul Brown for that
matter :scratchchin:

monte81
01-09-2007, 04:14 PM
That is exactly what I was thinking.

Or put another way: Florida ran the offense Stacy wants to run; OSU ran the offense Stacy does run.

Great anology of the game and our 2006 football season!!!

TigerLoverFromAfar
01-09-2007, 05:07 PM
It looked like they had a nice vacation out there, though.

I hope they got SOMETHING out of their trip out there. Maybe a nice TAN!

austinsm11
01-09-2007, 05:30 PM
I am just still amazed the day after. Im not the biggest Buckeye fan in the world but wow. 3 critical things that decided the outcome.
1) Tressel never established the running game
2) Blitzed maybe once the whole game, rushed only 3.
3) Your defense finally makes a stop and with 5 minutes left in the 2nd,
your down 10 and you go for it at your own 29. You just told your
team you have no chance at winning.

Everyone laughed when I said that Louisville could put up 38 on OSU, everyone said it couldnt be done and the last 2 games of the year both teams put that many on them. I was very disapointed with the defensive game plan.

I thought the exact same thing. I really thought OSU might fix things at halftime and have a chance if it was close. After the 4th down play, I knew it was over.

CATS44
01-09-2007, 07:52 PM
Yep.

It was Tressel that called for those two early 15 yd penalties, the interception, and the fumble.

It was Tressel who set it up so that Florida could start drives at the Bucks 42, 35, 29, and 5 yd lines....and on their own 42.

The defense was designed to force Florida to make long sustained drives without mistakes in order to score. No defense is designed to stop an offense that continually has only a half field in which to go. When Florida had to start well back in their own territory, the OSU defense did quite well.

But it was Tressel who designed an offense completely different than what had got them to the dance....four WR spread to run Pittman out of.

tiger#22
01-09-2007, 08:35 PM
it is difficult to comprehend that a team like OSU could be routed at all by another college team.

Why? Who did they really beat this year?

tiger#22
01-09-2007, 08:40 PM
Yep.

It was Tressel that called for those two early 15 yd penalties, the interception, and the fumble.

It was Tressel who set it up so that Florida could start drives at the Bucks 42, 35, 29, and 5 yd lines....and on their own 42.



No that was the Ohio State Buckeyes who did all of that, Tressel included.

npaflas
01-09-2007, 09:17 PM
If Ginn wouldn't have got hurt that would have been a whole different game for sure.

tiger#22
01-09-2007, 09:36 PM
If Ginn wouldn't have got hurt that would have been a whole different game for sure.

41-21, maybe.

crackerman
01-09-2007, 09:46 PM
Yep.

It was Tressel that called for those two early 15 yd penalties, the interception, and the fumble.

It was Tressel who set it up so that Florida could start drives at the Bucks 42, 35, 29, and 5 yd lines....and on their own 42.

The defense was designed to force Florida to make long sustained drives without mistakes in order to score. No defense is designed to stop an offense that continually has only a half field in which to go. When Florida had to start well back in their own territory, the OSU defense did quite well.

But it was Tressel who designed an offense completely different than what had got them to the dance....four WR spread to run Pittman out of.

*It WAS Tressel who didnt establish a running game which forced several
quick three and outs thus punted deep in their own end.
*It was Tressel who recruited the type of players that he now has who are
undisciplined and get 15 yards (the "all-american juco player Tressel had
to have)
*Dont blame the punter for his penalty cuz he saved a TD

monte81
01-10-2007, 09:25 AM
The defensive scheme was set up to fail!!! You cant sit back in a zone and wait for a team to make mistakes!! press coverage and blitz schemes beat the spread offense but you must be physical!! OSU didnt have the right d gameplan!! The offense really sucked and shut down as soon as ginn could not go!!! Panic set in real fast!! Speed kills everytime!!

OSU and Michigan better go out and recruit some DB's that can actually play man to man coverage in BCS games!!! In the big ten you can get away with zone coverage and a solid front seven that can tackle but in the Pac 10 and SEC and schools like DAville and West Virginia you better be able to run and cover because those WR.s(most have 3 or 4) in those conferences run sub 4.4 40 yard dashes!!

TigerDL71
01-10-2007, 01:02 PM
while speed kills i think that Ohio state could have played some big ten football and ran the ball right at them, speed does kill but one way to beat speed is to just run smash mouth football right at them, we did panic too fast and thought we had to pass everydown to get back into the game

Seeker
01-10-2007, 01:33 PM
while speed kills i think that Ohio state could have played some big ten football and ran the ball right at them, speed does kill but one way to beat speed is to just run smash mouth football right at them, we did panic too fast and thought we had to pass everydown to get back into the game

I think, like the title of the thread says...that's being out-coached.

montana
01-11-2007, 11:56 PM
They believed everthing they read about themselves. Bottom line !!!!!!