Florida Vs Ohio State !!

[DAWGH8R]

YES !!!!!!!!!!:no1:

[NEW PHILA. TIGER]

GO BUCKEYES BEAT FLORIDA

[MTiger]

Go Bucks!

[Obie Wan]

It would almost be worth it to see OSU lose and Michigan win the Rose Bowl just to expose this rediculous abortion.

I would wager that more votes were cast against a rematch than for Florida. If the voters don't have the balls to see the best two teams play without regard to petty politics, then scrap the whole BCS joke and go back to bowl games and polls.

[warren1st]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2685195

This hits the nail on the head!

[obie7661]

Go Bucks!!! Grind Up Dem Gators!!!

[Tigerstriper]

As i see things,Michigan had their chance at OSU
they didn't get the job done.
Much debate will take place with Florida jumping ahead
of Mich, but once again Mich didn't
win their conference while Florida won the SEC.

[DAWGH8R]

Michigan lost it's Na'l Champ game !!!:no2:

Next up: FLORIDA !!!!:no3:

I LOVE it !!!!

[ReineyKicker15]

Never been so happy to live in Florida in my whole life. I get to walk around for a month with my ohio state gear on around all the gator fools.
Go Buckeyes!!!!

[Obie Wan]

One thing missing from this discussion is OSU fans who will say they think Florida is better than Michigan with a straight face. I do think think there is a huge sense of relief, as well as a bit of cowardly bravado at play here. It's a bit like a small dog yapping behind a screen door. They can make all the noise they want since they don't have to do anything about it.

[TigerDL71]

i believe that a lot of fans are breathing a sigh of relief because i think that USC would have given OSU a better game then florida,i also think that michigan would have given OSU the best game of all three of them i think that the Michigan USC game will be the better game of the two

[marlow]

It would almost be worth it to see OSU lose and Michigan win the Rose Bowl just to expose this rediculous abortion.

I would wager that more votes were cast against a rematch than for Florida. If the voters don't have the balls to see the best two teams play without regard to petty politics, then scrap the whole BCS joke and go back to bowl games and polls.

Lloyd Carr: Is that you?

[TigerDL71]

if OSU looses which i really hope they don't, and Boise State beats Oklahoma, would you have to include Boise State in the discussion for who is the national champion?

[Dr Strangemind]

Well maybe Florida should play Michigan to see who's Number Two. We already know who Number One is.

[DAWGH8R]

Ohio State opens as an 8 point favorite over Florida !!

Michigan opens as a 3 point favorite over USC !!

WOW !!:gogogo:

[chumly]

Congratulations to Ohio State. Not only will they not be playing the No. 2 team in the country who would have made it a great game, they will outnumber the Florida fans who come to AZ probably something like 8 to 1. Thanks to the BCS system sending another Florida school to the Championship.

So, besides seeing a lopsided victory to gloat over instead of watching what would have been another great game, they can bask in the sea of scarlet and grey at the University of Phoenix Stadium on Jan. 8th. "Nah, we don't want half the seats in the stadium - we want 80% like we did against Miami. And, we only want one great band at the game...how did Florida's fight song go (do they have a band)?"

[warren1st]

Great points, Chumly.

Posters need to read this link:http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061204/SPORTS08/612040383/1131/

I don't know how any objective person can say FL deserves a place in the Championship Game.

[chumly]

Tressel's abstention from the vote was a joke - had everyone seen he would have voted for Florida, maybe some eyebrows would have been raised with other voters - "Why doesn't want to play Michigan again?" How would that have affected the outcome?

Ah, but he was very coy. He had already made it clear - he said that a team that won it's conference championship (FL) should get the nod over someone who didn't (UM).

[Al.]

Hail to the Victors......and Losers :2thumbsup:

[monte81]

The game is supposed to be between #1 and #2! The shame is that if UM played a game after the OSU game on the schedule Florida would have never jumped them in the polls!!! The system is flawed!! The 2 best teams are in the big ten and the voters are just spreading the money around!!! A real shame on the system!!!!!

[TigerLoverFromAfar]

again the BCS screws up.
Florida in no way deserves this spot. WE ALL KNOW MICHIGAN IS A BETTER TEAM. Whoever said the SEC was the best in the nation was wrong. The BIG TEN has been bringing it.
This won't even be a good game. I almost wanted to see a Michigan rematch. Just to see a good game.
I saw on espn last night that the only part of the [B]country[B] that voted for Florida was the southern most tip....the red of the country was orange-the whole thing. EXCEPT FLORIDA, nobody thinks they deserve this.
Poll here:http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2614

[chumly]

Ohio State 38 Florida 13

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Ohio State wins their eighth national championship! NOW GRIP THOSE GATORS and give Gators commander Urban Meyer an unforgettable "Urban Legend"!!!!!!

[TigerLily]

As i see things,Michigan had their chance at OSU
they didn't get the job done.


I guess if you look at it this way then in 2005 the Tigers should not have played McKinley again because we already had our shot.

This game should have really been between the true #1 and #2, which is OSU and Michigan. It would have been such a really great game. And, can you imagine the hype? There would have been so much interest in the game it would have been unreal and a lot of fun.

Now it seems almost anti-climatic.

I don’t understand why they don’t get a play-off system in place -- this is not a good way.

But anyway………………….GO BUCKS!!

[SuperBran]

although i think mich is the #2 team in the nation, i'm glad we're playing florida.

we don't know how florida would do against osu, but we do know how mich would do. michigan had their chance and lost. they had their shot at osu and couldn't get it done. i have full faith in the bucks, and therefore would like to see them beat yet another team.

i'm especially excited about playing florida. every year we hear people talk about how great their conference is, and how it's the best conference in the country. i've heard florida fans say they're still better than osu, even with their one loss, since their conference is so good.

now we get the chance to shut them up.

[chumly]

John Junker, who runs the show for the BCS out here, said yesterday in an interview that Plenty of Florida fans will be at the BCS Championship. He was even kind enough to give Florida fans in Gainesville directions: He said to go to I-10 and take a right, then drive (across the U.S.) to the 101 Loop and the will take you to the University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale.

Well, if the Florida fans take a right on the I-10, it will take them eastbound to the Atlantic Ocean.

I told you they wouldn’t be sending very many fans.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Ohio State has been at the Fiesta Bowl on four different occasions. It will nearly be like a home game for them.

GRIP THE GATORS!

[MTown]

My thoughts on all of this (if you care)...

Michigan is the 2nd best team in the country.
Louisville (hey crackerman!) probably deserves the title game appearance more than Florida.
USC would have been a better opponent for Ohio State than Florida (but is not as good as Michigan).

The fact is, once you lose a game your lose control of your destiny. Someone was going to get screwed.

You will not hear me say that Florida is better than Michigan. I wanted no part of UM in a rematch. We already beat Michigan and have no need to prove it again. BUT...Michigan fans are going to cry for the next month, with good reason...but after all of that, don't you dare go out to the Rose Bowl and lose to USC.

Win all of your games, and you don't have to go through this. See you in AZ!

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

MTown,

I promise you: Michigan will not falter against USC. They know what happened in the 2004 Rose Bowl. It will not repeat itself as they will TRASH THE TROJANS!

[MTown]

I hope they do. But they are setting themselves up right now. They are going to whine and complain about getting screwed and then they are going to get to the Rose Bowl and lose. Stuff like that happens all the time.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

MTown,

Michigan just has to put it behind them. They can't change how the BCS turned out. The best they can do is win the Rose Bowl for the first time since 1997...their last national championship.

And what better way than to beat USC. As for your guys...GRIP THE GATORS!

[Dr Strangemind]

Why rag on Tressel & Ohio State? They won all their games!

[chumly]

Michigan will have one more chance to make a statement ex post facto and that will be to open a can of whupass on USC. If they succeed, then they can argue about "why" USC was ever moved ahead of them to #2. Right now, Michigan can whine or make a statement. Frankly, I think it will be the latter and I really feel for JDB, because if he thinks last Saturday against UCLA was rough, “bells” could be ringing in Pasadena courtesy of #2 and Co.

[warren1st]

MTown,

I promise you: Michigan will not falter against USC. They know what happened in the 2004 Rose Bowl. It will not repeat itself as they will TRASH THE TROJANS!
Don't be so sure. They are virtually playing on SC's home turf and will be facing a nasty bunch of Trojans.

[TigerCoach]

For you Michigan fans:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there still a slim chance that Michigan could win the BCS Championship? Say, for example, that OSU and Florida play to a 6-3 yawner, with Florida providing the upset (similar to the ACC Title game). At the same time Michigan just pounds USC 42-7. Wouldn't there be a chance that voters would maybe pick Michigan over Florida as National Champs? I don't think the BCS Championship is absolutely that, we just think it is.

Again, correct me if i'm wrong.

[crackerman]

Hers the bottom line...Michigan had their shot at OSU and lost...let someone else have their chance. Im sick of everyone saying they only lost by 3 on the road. Everyone is forgeting the 2 turnovers OSU gave Michigan inside their own 20 that provided Michigan with 10 points. Everyone is forgetting it was an 11 point game until with 3 minutes left, OSU dropped into prevent which enabled Michigan to score late. If OSU wins that gmae by 11 are people still bitching? I highly doubt it. Also, OSU even with all the turnovers and Michigan playing a near perfect game, OSU still had several chance to make it a 18 point game. If there was a rematch, OSU would of beaten them by at least 24 in my opinion. Michigan fans, you had your chance, you lost...and now you will lose to USC. Michigan can NOT beat teams who can out-athlete them.

[The Butler]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there still a slim chance that Michigan could win the BCS Championship?


The AP poll winner could be Michigan, but in the coaches poll, there is an agreement that the winner of the BCS Championship game is declared National Champs.

[SuperBran]

For you Michigan fans:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there still a slim chance that Michigan could win the BCS Championship? Say, for example, that OSU and Florida play to a 6-3 yawner, with Florida providing the upset (similar to the ACC Title game). At the same time Michigan just pounds USC 42-7. Wouldn't there be a chance that voters would maybe pick Michigan over Florida as National Champs? I don't think the BCS Championship is absolutely that, we just think it is.

Again, correct me if i'm wrong.

as far as i've heard, it doesn't matter what the voters think at the end of the season.....the winner of the florida-osu game will be the national champ without question.

[crackerman]

actually someone else can be voted AP champs other than the winner of the BCS game. If Florida and Michigan both win, expect Michigan to possibly be the AP Poll champs.

[RAPTOR]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=2685195

This hits the nail on the head!

Please tell me how Michigan got jobbed. Your team allready played Ohio State and LOST! It doesnt matter by how many points or weather you think you have the 2nd best team in the nation. The bottom line is you allready played us and lost, there will be no rematch! Deal with it till neat year! O, and good luck in the rose bowl. I hope your team doesnt loose their bowl game again.

[austinsm11]

Well, at least Michigan vs. USC will be a good game.

I am going with easy wins for OSU, Oklahoma, and LSU. Oh, and this should make crackerman happy. I see Louisville with a fairly easy win as well.

[obie7661]

[...Well, if the Florida fans take a right on the I-10, it will take them eastbound to the Atlantic Ocean.

I told you they wouldn’t be sending very many fans.

If they're driving south, the right turn will take them westbound ... to The Game.

[Smitty]

My argument against an OSU-Mich re-match (even though I believe Michigan is "#2"):

... let's say Michigan wins by 3... both teams are then 12-1, with each loss to the other. Do we go for 2-out-of-3 games??

[austinsm11]

... let's say Michigan wins by 3... both teams are then 12-1, with each loss to the other. Do we go for 2-out-of-3 games??
No, its not a 2 out of 3 series. It isn't a series at all. The winner of the game is national champion. Didn't Florida beat Florida State in the rematch in 1996? Florida was the champion. They didn't play 2 out of 3.

Massillon beat McKinley last year and they didn't play the best 2 out of 3. The winner in the post season is the winner. I know that college does not have a playoff, but it is considered the post season.


Plain and simple, IF you believe that Michigan is number 2, then they should be playing again...NO EXCUSES.

[TigerDL71]

heres a scenario....if OSU losses and Boise State knocks of Oklahoma, then how could you not consider Boise State in contention for the title, they will be the only undefeated team in the nation then, just food for thought, this system is totally screwed up, all of the other divisions in college have a playoff system hopefully D1 will be soon to follow

[austinsm11]

Interesting thought, but they wouldn't get it. They are one of two undefeated teams now and aren't even in the title game.

[crackerman]

TigerDL,
I brought that point up before about Boise. Now of course this is an afterthought now with USC losing, but had USC beaten UCLA...and then USC would of beaten OSU, they would of been 12-1 with one loss to Oregon St. If Boise would win the FIesta, Boise would of been 13-0 including a 28 point win over Oregon St.

[crackerman]

my bowl views:

Da Ville 38 Wake 17
Louisville offense is way to much for Wake, Louisville might put up 50 in this game, Wake will think they can play in a shootout but they can not shoot it out with Da Ville. Wake has a good team and had a good year, but they are playing a team who had they not blown a 25-7 lead at Rutgers, would be playing OSU for the National title. Louisville wins to finish 3rd int he final polls.

LSU 31 ND 21
LSU defense might literally kill Brady Quinn. I hope Quinn has an insurance policy because LSU front 7 will destroy ND's o-line. LSU always plays big in bowl games. Quinn will throw 3 td's, one will be a cheap one at the end to make it seem close. LSU will also score a defensive td.

USC 28 Michigan 24
Is USC that good this year?...NO. Do they still have more overall athletes and talent to beat Michigan?..YES. Perfect game for USC, nobody will expect them to win and everyone will expect a big MIchigan win, but it wont happen. Henne throws 3 picks.

Boise State 21- Oklahoma 20
Maybe this is just wishful thinking because I like Boise, they are the Rocky Balboa of college football, overachieving and no respect. Oklahoma's defense is playing great right now, but be careful...Ian Johnson (rb) from Boise is the real deal. He will run for over 130 in the Fiesta versus a stingy Oklahoma run defense, you heard it here first.
and in the big one......

OSU 24 Florida 20
OSU should blow them out, but with Urban's trick plays and Mr. Tebow rushing the ball, the Gators will keep it close. This is also Chris Leaks one chance to erase 4 average years at Florida after being considered a "GOD" coming out of Independence high school in Charlotte, NC. Some say Urban is a crier but he will bring it all out in this game. OSU will see more trick plays from Florida in this one game then they have seen in the past 5 years in the Big 10.

Top 5 after the bowl games
1. OSU
2. LSU
3. Louisville
4. USC (might be 3rd, because voters will give them more for beating
Michigan then they will for Da Ville beating Wake)
5. Boise St.

[warren1st]

Please tell me how Michigan got jobbed. Your team allready played Ohio State and LOST! It doesnt matter by how many points or weather you think you have the 2nd best team in the nation. The bottom line is you allready played us and lost, there will be no rematch! Deal with it till neat year! O, and good luck in the rose bowl. I hope your team doesnt loose their bowl game again.

I gave you an article that explained it quite thoroughly and elementarily.

Btw, thank God for Jim Herbstreit. He said that the BEST two teams should be playing for the NC.

Now, Raptor, if your honest with yourself, you know OSU, who is the best team in the country, will kick the tar out of Florida.

Thanks for cheering us on in our bowl game. It means alot to me.:thanx:

[longtimefirsttime]

again the BCS screws up.
Florida in no way deserves this spot. WE ALL KNOW MICHIGAN IS A BETTER TEAM. Whoever said the SEC was the best in the nation was wrong. The BIG TEN has been bringing it.
This won't even be a good game. I almost wanted to see a Michigan rematch. Just to see a good game.
I saw on espn last night that the only part of the [B]country[B] that voted for Florida was the southern most tip....the red of the country was orange-the whole thing. EXCEPT FLORIDA, nobody thinks they deserve this.
Poll here:http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/polling?event_id=2614

There are over 168-thousand votes and approximately 90% of the respondents want a playoff system. When will the decision makers wake up?

[TigerNick]

OK, MEMO TO ALL MICHIGAN FANS.
It's only common sense. Until a playoff system takes place, You should have to WIN your own Conference and be Conference Champions to have the right to be a NATIONAL Champion. Michigan DID NOT WIN THE BIG TEN CONFERENCE. Florida DID win their Conference. I feel the Voters got it right. Sorry Michigan fans, You had your shot and you BLEW it. Look at the schedules too. Florida had to play the likes of Tennessee, Alabama, LSU South Carolina, Arkansas ETC. Michigan played the likes of Eastern Michigan, Ball State, Vanderbilt ETC. and when they did play somebody in the likes of THE Ohio State Buckeyes, they were down by TWO touchdowns for the majority of the game. The only reason Michigan got back within 3 points was because of 3 Ohio State Turnovers (Which was a gift, AND THEY STILL LOST) And Florida thru that schedule WON their Conference Title. Michigan DID NOT. Ohio State had to play not one, not two, but this will be the THIRD Number two team in the country in the same season. That's the first time anyone had to play 3 Number ONE VS Number two Matchups in the same season. The Difference between Ohio State and Michigan is this. Michigans crying over having to play USC in the Rose Bowl because they know they are in for a thumping against USC, Because USC is going to take out all their frustrations of blowing their chance vs UCLA and put another BEAT DOWN on Michigan. And the Buckeyes were looking forward to playing a team like USC. Until we have a playoff format, the regular season is the playoffs. That makes every game count. Michigans National Championship game was on Nov.18 and they lost. That was Michigans playoff game. When you LOSE your playoff game YOU'RE OUT. Besides, I blieve Michigans Bowl record during the Jim Tressel era is as good as their record against Ohio State 1-5, You call that Championship Caliber? I think Not.
>
>GO BUCKS BEAT FLORIDA.

[TigerNick]

OK, MEMO TO ALL MICHIGAN FANS.
It's only common sense. Until a playoff system takes place, You should have to WIN your own Conference and be Conference Champions to have the right to be a NATIONAL Champion. Michigan DID NOT WIN THE BIG TEN CONFERENCE. Florida DID win their Conference. I feel the Voters got it right. Sorry Michigan fans, You had your shot and you BLEW it. Look at the schedules too. Florida had to play the likes of Tennessee, Alabama, LSU South Carolina, Arkansas ETC. Michigan played the likes of Eastern Michigan, Ball State, Vanderbilt ETC. and when they did play somebody in the likes of THE Ohio State Buckeyes, they were down by TWO touchdowns for the majority of the game. The only reason Michigan got back within 3 points was because of 3 Ohio State Turnovers (Which was a gift, AND THEY STILL LOST) And Florida thru that schedule WON their Conference Title. Michigan DID NOT. Ohio State had to play not one, not two, but this will be the THIRD Number two team in the country in the same season. That's the first time anyone had to play 3 Number ONE VS Number two Matchups in the same season. The Difference between Ohio State and Michigan is this. Michigans crying over having to play USC in the Rose Bowl because they know they are in for a thumping against USC, Because USC is going to take out all their frustrations of blowing their chance vs UCLA and put another BEAT DOWN on Michigan. And the Buckeyes were looking forward to playing a team like USC. Until we have a playoff format, the regular season is the playoffs. That makes every game count. Michigans National Championship game was on Nov.18 and they lost. That was Michigans playoff game. When you LOSE your playoff game YOU'RE OUT. Besides, I blieve Michigans Bowl record during the Jim Tressel era is as good as their record against Ohio State 1-5, You call that Championship Caliber? I think Not.
>
>GO BUCKS BEAT FLORIDA.

[Tigerstriper]

I guess if you look at it this way then in 2005 the Tigers should not have played McKinley again because we already had our shot.

This game should have really been between the true #1 and #2, which is OSU and Michigan. It would have been such a really great game. And, can you imagine the hype? There would have been so much interest in the game it would have been unreal and a lot of fun.

Now it seems almost anti-climatic.

I don’t understand why they don’t get a play-off system in place -- this is not a good way.

But anyway………………….GO BUCKS!!


There was no guaranteed rematch with Mck in 2005
Fortunately we have a system that provided the
means for a rematch, but we had to earn it.

Unfortunately college doesn't have a playoff that
could provide the avenue for a rematch.
Both Mich and OSU knew the winner was guaranteed
a title game, while the loser would play in a BCS
bowl game. Mich had their shot and lost, plus deep
down they knew another chance at the national title
was slim and none.

[CarlE]

I gave you an article that explained it quite thoroughly and elementarily.

Btw, thank God for Jim Herbstreit. He said that the BEST two teams should be playing for the NC.

Now, Raptor, if your honest with yourself, you know OSU, who is the best team in the country, will kick the tar out of Florida.

Thanks for cheering us on in our bowl game. It means alot to me.:thanx:

The article explains that there was no discerning factor for choosing either Florida OR Michigan. The guy is making a case for both teams. The problem is the system is flawed. And KIRK Herstreit would appreciate it if you would get his name right. I don't see anybody calling your QB Chuck Henne!! LOL. Teasing, my friend. Just teasing. Now, go beat the crap out of USC. I too will be rooting for the maize and blue.

[crackerman]

Carle, do you agree with my predictions?

[CarlE]

Carle, do you agree with my predictions?

Some of them. Boise State will NOT beat Oklahoma. OU's defense will smother them. And let's have the wake for Brady Quinn right now. He will NOT survive LSU's defense. Michigan will be so pissed off they WILL take out USC. And I think Florida will keep it close the first half but our horses will wear them down in the end.

[warren1st]

The article explains that there was no discerning factor for choosing either Florida OR Michigan. The guy is making a case for both teams. The problem is the system is flawed. And KIRK Herstreit would appreciate it if you would get his name right. I don't see anybody calling your QB Chuck Henne!! LOL. Teasing, my friend. Just teasing. Now, go beat the crap out of USC. I too will be rooting for the maize and blue.

Now, this is getty scary. I can't remember if the doctor told me I had Alzheimer's or just a cold but I remember like it was yesterday when Jimmy Herbstrit was one fine DB for my, once upon a time, beloved Buckeyes!

Btw, isn't Henne's first name Chuck??

[TigerCoach]

Cracker, I think Louisville will beat Wake Forest by more than 21, I'm thinking at least 28. Wake has a decent defense overall, but their pass defense is terrible. They were lucky that they played Georgia Tech in the ACC Title game. Tech has the best WR in the country, and the worst QB! If Tech had someone like Zwick, they would have only lost 1 game this year (Clemson). They would have beaten Notre Dame in the opener, and the last 2 against Georgia and Wake. Reggie Ball single handily lost both of those.

I also think Boise St. is dreaming of playing with the "big boys" and reality will set in about 4 minutes before halftime, after they shoot their wad and find out that Oklahoma is no Hawaii or Oregon State.

I agree that LSU may physically hurt Brady Quinn. I hope he gets rid of the ball quick and gets down against those gorillas on the LSU defense. I also think USC will beat Michigan as they have more athletes, especially on offense and Michigan can't cover the pass. Plus, USC is pissed about losing to UCLA and will want to redeem themselves.

As for the Buckeyes, your probably right about the trick plays. Urban Meyer is one of the most innovative coaches in the country. Heck, he may even line up in a different offense than anyone has seen all year. But, overall, I see the Buckeyes offensive power and opportunistic defense winning 31-20.

I'm giving you a bonus pick also. Mt. Union will win the Amos Alonzo Stagg Bowl.

[shooter]

Oklahoma should be playing in Az. The got screwed out west, they'll kill Boise State.

[SuperBran]

OK, MEMO TO ALL MICHIGAN FANS.
It's only common sense. Until a playoff system takes place, You should have to WIN your own Conference and be Conference Champions to have the right to be a NATIONAL Champion. Michigan DID NOT WIN THE BIG TEN CONFERENCE. Florida DID win their Conference.

i disagree. it's possible to have the two best teams in the nation in the same conference. why should michigan be punished just b/c the best team in the nation is in their conference.

suppose at the end of the regular season the rankings looked like this:

1. osu 12-0
2. michigan 11-1
3. florida 11-2
4. usc 10-2
everyone else with at least two losses.

would it be fair to say that michigan should be passed over for a two loss team just b/c they were in the same conference as the best team in the nation? that's ridiculous.

you can be certain that if florida was undefeated, osu had one loss, and lsu had one loss (with that loss being a 3 point loss to florida) then the same people arguing against michigan being in the national championship would be arguing that lsu should get in over osu since the sec is the best conference in the nation. no one would care that it would be a rematch.

[austinsm11]

i disagree. it's possible to have the two best teams in the nation in the same conference. why should michigan be punished just b/c the best team in the nation is in their conference.

suppose at the end of the regular season the rankings looked like this:

1. osu 12-0
2. michigan 11-1
3. florida 11-2
4. usc 10-2
everyone else with at least two losses.

would it be fair to say that michigan should be passed over for a two loss team just b/c they were in the same conference as the best team in the nation? that's ridiculous.

you can be certain that if florida was undefeated, osu had one loss, and lsu had one loss (with that loss being a 3 point loss to florida) then the same people arguing against michigan being in the national championship would be arguing that lsu should get in over osu since the sec is the best conference in the nation. no one would care that it would be a rematch.

Well said. I still don't get why the top 2 teams in the country can't come from the same conference. Hasn't this happened in basketball at some point?

[MTown]

Hasn't this happened in basketball at some point?

Happens all the time. Duke/UNC.

[crackerman]

Oklahoma should be playing in Az. The got screwed out west, they'll kill Boise State.

They are playing in AZ....in the fiesta bowl, the fiesta is held in AZ...did you not know that?..and that is the bowl they should be in. Did they get screwed at Oregon?..maybe...their d still had a chance to hold on and didnt hold the lead. But easy my friend...Oklahoma has 2 losses...if they only had one loss, they would probably be in the BCS title game because the voters would of overhtrown the loss at Oregon. NO 2-loss team has a grip about not being in the title game...NONE. They got waxed by Texas by 18...so in your scenario, Texas should be playing in the title game

[austinsm11]

Anyone see the coaches of Texas Tech and Texas A&M throwing a fit because Tressell didn't vote?

[SuperBran]

Anyone see the coaches of Texas Tech and Texas A&M throwing a fit because Tressell didn't vote?

tressel did the right thing. if he voted for florida people would criticize him for ducking michigan and not supporting the big ten. if he voted for michigan then people would call him a homer and bash him for having no respect for florida. either way, it was a no win situation.

suppose his vote would have made a difference. people would then accuse him for picking who he thought he'd match up better against.

[austinsm11]

tressel did the right thing. if he voted for florida people would criticize him for ducking michigan and not supporting the big ten. if he voted for michigan then people would call him a homer and bash him for having no respect for florida. either way, it was a no win situation.

suppose his vote would have made a difference. people would then accuse him for picking who he thought he'd match up better against.

I agree completely. On PTI they were saying that they were surprised that the other coaches didn't demand that he NOT vote since he would basically be choosing who he wants to play.

[crackerman]

my bowl views:

Da Ville 38 Wake 17
Louisville offense is way to much for Wake, Louisville might put up 50 in this game, Wake will think they can play in a shootout but they can not shoot it out with Da Ville. Wake has a good team and had a good year, but they are playing a team who had they not blown a 25-7 lead at Rutgers, would be playing OSU for the National title. Louisville wins to finish 3rd int he final polls.

LSU 31 ND 21
LSU defense might literally kill Brady Quinn. I hope Quinn has an insurance policy because LSU front 7 will destroy ND's o-line. LSU always plays big in bowl games. Quinn will throw 3 td's, one will be a cheap one at the end to make it seem close. LSU will also score a defensive td.

USC 28 Michigan 24
Is USC that good this year?...NO. Do they still have more overall athletes and talent to beat Michigan?..YES. Perfect game for USC, nobody will expect them to win and everyone will expect a big MIchigan win, but it wont happen. Henne throws 3 picks.

Boise State 21- Oklahoma 20
Maybe this is just wishful thinking because I like Boise, they are the Rocky Balboa of college football, overachieving and no respect. Oklahoma's defense is playing great right now, but be careful...Ian Johnson (rb) from Boise is the real deal. He will run for over 130 in the Fiesta versus a stingy Oklahoma run defense, you heard it here first.
and in the big one......

OSU 24 Florida 20
OSU should blow them out, but with Urban's trick plays and Mr. Tebow rushing the ball, the Gators will keep it close. This is also Chris Leaks one chance to erase 4 average years at Florida after being considered a "GOD" coming out of Independence high school in Charlotte, NC. Some say Urban is a crier but he will bring it all out in this game. OSU will see more trick plays from Florida in this one game then they have seen in the past 5 years in the Big 10.

Top 5 after the bowl games
1. OSU
2. LSU
3. Louisville
4. USC (might be 3rd, because voters will give them more for beating
Michigan then they will for Da Ville beating Wake)
5. Boise St.

wow lookie there....now if LSU and Florida can cover the 9 1/2 and 7 1/2...not only will my picks be 5-0 but also 5-0 versus the points. (patting self on back)

[MTown]

Props for picking the 1 point Boise State win.

As for the Rose Bowl...You could feel that Michigan loss coming because of all the crying they did after losing to OSU. But I never expected them to play so badly.

[crackerman]

Michigan can never beat a team that can out-athlete them and that is exactly what happened in their tow losses this year.

[Smitty]

... But I never expected them (Michigan) to play so badly.

That was pathetic, to say the least.

Lloyd Carr is doing a wonderful John Cooper imitation (ie, lose the last regular season game, lose the bowl game)

[crackerman]

make it 4 for 4 with my bcs picks and 4 for 4 versus the points. I should be making Carle a lot of money right now lol

[TigerNick]

Can't wait. The count down is on. In just two more days we will be on our way to Arizona with Buckeye Nation to watch The Ohio State University Buckeyes win their 8th National Championship. It's going to be a 4 Day PARTY. Lets Go Bucks. BEAT THE GATORS

[TigerNick]

Well said. I still don't get why the top 2 teams in the country can't come from the same conference. Hasn't this happened in basketball at some point?

Yes it has. The NCAA Tournament March Madness. But See, That is a playoff system. Until there is a playoff system in place, this is what we have to deal with.

[longtimefirsttime]

Ohio State 28
Florida 20

[MTown]

Yes it has. The NCAA Tournament March Madness. But See, That is a playoff system. Until there is a playoff system in place, this is what we have to deal with.

Duke/Maryland in 2001.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

MTown,

Michigan didn't get off like they wanted to in the second half. You have to credit the Trojans and sixth-year head coach Pete Carroll. They really took away our best asset in Mike Hart and throwing the ball just was asking too much for Chad Henne.

[MTown]

MTown,

Michigan didn't get off like they wanted to in the second half. You have to credit the Trojans and sixth-year head coach Pete Carroll. They really took away our best asset in Mike Hart and throwing the ball just was asking too much for Chad Henne.

I just can't believe the "2nd best team in the nation" couldn't get it done.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

MTown,

Anytime you are getting sacked and put on your butt and then giving up big plays, it doesn't help matters.

There isn't a lot to be said about this debacle and I don't have an answer for it other than Michigan failed badly to defend the field in the second half.

[chumly]

MTown,

Michigan didn't get off like they wanted to in the second half. You have to credit the Trojans and sixth-year head coach Pete Carroll. They really took away our best asset in Mike Hart and throwing the ball just was asking too much for Chad Henne.

It was easy to take away Hart once they realized Michigan only has 2 running plays - zone right and zone left. Oh that's right, it's four running plays. I forgot about inside right and inside left.:doh:

[ChronicTiger]

MTown,
There isn't a lot to be said about this debacle.......

how bout......

bogus, rude, overbearing, sardonic, inconsistent, egotistical, obese, damaging, opposing, nsaty, numskullish, embittered, loathsome.........

:stars:

[longtimefirsttime]

"During the off-season, the Ohio State defensive staff took a junket to Gainesville to share ideas with its Florida counterparts. The coaches shared ideology, terminology, watched film and talked philosophy. This is a common practice among college football programs that don't expect to play each other during the season. Ooops."
-- New York Times

"Ohio State receiver Anthony Gonzalez sleeps in a tent that simulates altitude and that has been a key, he believes, to his all-America caliber season. It's similar to the training method used by athletes like Lance Armstrong. Gonzalez has brought the tent with him to Arizona. He's even angling for Colorado Altitude Training, the company that produces the tent, to hook him up with a room of adjusted altitude when he graduates."
-- New York Times