Control Own Destiny

[massillonmaroon]

Those are the only three words that Massillon needs to know. We are sitting at number 8 this morning. Win today, Beat McKinley and it's a new season. This team has the talent to win as many as they want they just need to gain more confidence, play with more desire and play smart football to win a state title.

There's no reason they can't do these three things.

One tonight - one next Saturday.

CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY!

[ChronicTiger]

http://www.joeeitel.com/hsfoot/2006region_2.html

[longtimefirsttime]

One tonight - one next Saturday.

CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY!


Sounds great to me!

[tiger#22]

The way it looks:
1. Massillon has to win the next 2 of course
2. If Brunswick and Perry both win then Massillon will play at Perry
3. If Brunswick loses to Strongsville then Massillon will have a home game
:TIG2:

[sixerfan889]

you mean to tell me that if Massillon wins the last two games they stand a chance of hosting a playoff game at 6-4? This is insane. This team shouldn't even be allowed in the playoffs by losing 4 games in the first place. This system should change. Their will be some teams that has lost only 3 games and they will not get in.

5 years ago, a team from up north was 5-5 and they made the playoffs. totally ridiculous

and if Massillon goes to the playoffs at 6-4, just the same

[TtigerFan]

Regarding Contro Own Destiny...
I agree, win tonight, beat McK, and move on up through the playoffs!

It was a heartbreaker to see Massillon play St Ignatous, and not score intil too late, and also those turnovers... TtigerFan AD (class of '76)

Those are the only three words that Massillon needs to know. We are sitting at number 8 this morning. Win today, Beat McKinley and it's a new season. This team has the talent to win as many as they want they just need to gain more confidence, play with more desire and play smart football to win a state title.

There's no reason they can't do these three things.

One tonight - one next Saturday.

CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY!

[tigermorgan77]

so sixerfan...we shouldnt be rewarded for having one of the toughest schedules in the state???? i guess we should just lay down and join the federal league so we can garauntee a 10-0 or 9-1 season every year and not challange our kids. i for one love playing these tough schedules...and when we make the playoffs at 6-4...this schedule will have gotten our kids ready for the playoffs and will prove it pays off just like last year!!!!!!!!!

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!! BEAT MCKINLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sixerfan889]

but with this school its always we have a tough schedule so we automatically should make the playoffs. stop boasting that you have the toughest schedule in the state. think about the Cincy/Columbus teams down there. I think its good for this school to play against top teams, but when you have a medicore record, don't blame it because of the schedule

federal league you will go 10-1?

not so fast my friend. I honestly believe that Perry, Jackson, Hoover will have something for WHS for years to come. Don't believe for one minute that the federal league is a get over. Look how far Mckinley has advance in the playoffs as same as this school its self

it will be a special day when the Tigers win a state championship on the field and not on paper

and the target isn't on Massillon back consistently, only their fans think that

[tiger#22]

you mean to tell me that if Massillon wins the last two games they stand a chance of hosting a playoff game at 6-4? This is insane. This team shouldn't even be allowed in the playoffs by losing 4 games in the first place. This system should change. Their will be some teams that has lost only 3 games and they will not get in.

5 years ago, a team from up north was 5-5 and they made the playoffs. totally ridiculous

and if Massillon goes to the playoffs at 6-4, just the same

In 2001 St Ignatius went 6-4 and won the title, did they not deserve it in your warped playoff world?

[tigermorgan77]

well put tiger#22!!!!!!!!! in my opinion...when we beat mckinley..we deserve to get in...they are a tough program and 1 of the 5 playoff bound teams we have played this year!!!! so buck up TIGERS and lets roll this thing back to state!!!!!! :gotigers:

[Ron01]

I've been saying it since the Warren game. If...no WHEN- we beat McKinley this team will go far in the playoffs. We won the warren game big time in stats. Herron couldn't do anything against our D- they really stepped up and grew up in that game. Proved it again tonight. All the loses could, and should, of been wins. If not for that crazy Moller first quarter, it would of been a closer game and thus, our guys would of had more confidence. I'm not saying they didn't- they kept pounding and never gave up- but being down that much that soon is just a hole that's hard to get out of. Call me crazy and stupid, but I just have this feeling this team is still going to do amazing things. I've never gave up on my Tigers, and I'm not giving up now. I'm going to find it really hard to do anything this week b/c its the greatest week of the year- MCKINLEY WEEK!! GO TIGERS!!!! T--I--G!!!!

[LLRose]

so sixerfan...we shouldnt be rewarded for having one of the toughest schedules in the state???? i guess we should just lay down and join the federal league so we can garauntee a 10-0 or 9-1 season every year and not challange our kids. i for one love playing these tough schedules...and when we make the playoffs at 6-4...this schedule will have gotten our kids ready for the playoffs and will prove it pays off just like last year!!!!!!!!!

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!! BEAT MCKINLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lay down and join the fed?

Canton has the 3rd highest computer point total for D1 after 9 games, don't let the facts get in the way of your point.

Go Tigers, beat Canton

[ChronicTiger]

but with this school its always we have a tough schedule so we automatically should make the playoffs. stop boasting that you have the toughest schedule in the state. think about the Cincy/Columbus teams down there. I think its good for this school to play against top teams, but when you have a medicore record, don't blame it because of the schedule

federal league you will go 10-1?

not so fast my friend. I honestly believe that Perry, Jackson, Hoover will have something for WHS for years to come. Don't believe for one minute that the federal league is a get over. Look how far Mckinley has advance in the playoffs as same as this school its self

it will be a special day when the Tigers win a state championship on the field and not on paper

and the target isn't on Massillon back consistently, only their fans think that

Hey welcome to the board, I needed a laugh. Stop with the comedy man!
Funny you have to use mck as your example. Your using a 3 year member to make a case for the league as a whole, dont you think that says something about the group your talking about?

For years to come? :eek2:
On the field, no team in the Fed, not even Mck has an edge on the tigers.
I dont think any of the teams you mentioned are going to start beating massillon on a regular basis.

State Championships aside, "on the field" massillon has been better than about everybody........see for yourself...

http://massillontigers.com/series_opp.htm

Hey Tiger86, T-I-G....

:eek:

[Spize]

our control on our destiny got a little better tonight with our win and elyria's loss

Parma Normandy 27, Elyria 21

[ChronicTiger]

Lay down and join the fed?

Canton has the 3rd highest computer point total for D1 after 9 games, don't let the facts get in the way of your point.

Go Tigers, beat Canton

Im curious about the facts your talking about?
High Harbin points doesnt say anything about the quality of schedule, or quality of wins. Its only a measure of quantity of wins. Assuming all DI teams, the only difference from a harbin standpoint between beating a 9-0 Wadsworth team and a 9-0 Iggy team is that its easier to beat Wadsworth and its also smarter to have them on the schedule. But does it make you better?
I just dont know how you can correlate harbin points to how tough or good a team actually is. As much as I dont like Jackson or Hoover, I think they can thump Perrysburg. But take a look, Perrysburg has more Harbins. Look at region 1. Do you really think the brecksville bees can take eds, iggy, gville, or WGH?
I think Mck has played medium level competition throughout the whole season. Sure Massillon played some stinkers, but as a whole the competition has been at a very high level. Massillon is going to be up for this one, so is the crowd. Mck is going to have a tough time. They are def going to need to get some sort of passing game going to beat Massillon, I dont see it happening. Has this QB seen any sort of pressure all year? How many INT's has he thrown?

The forecast is calling for an orange out......

Massillon by 12, if someone decides to give "mike da man" a headset then Im taking massillon by 28...

:lol:

[sixerfan889]

All of a sudden, this team is much better than Mckinley, they will go far in the playoffs because supposedly they gave WH the game

Who in this community or better yet on this board will accept defeat? I see the post on the front page and it reads how "tigers gave WH gifts". Turnovers is part of the game. Doesn't matter who win in the statistical side of the game.

This team has been beaten pretty soundling by some good teams, but I have yet to see a majority of threads on this board that states this. This is what concerns me. Massillon will lose a game and its all about "how we gave it to them".

When will they lose a game outright to you all

or better yet


When will Massillon when a state championship outright? Playoff format with people from this day and age to witness it

and no this is not a Mckinley fan either

[mike_da_man13]

Im curious about the facts your talking about?
High Harbin points doesnt say anything about the quality of schedule, or quality of wins. Its only a measure of quantity of wins. Assuming all DI teams, the only difference from a harbin standpoint between beating a 9-0 Wadsworth team and a 9-0 Iggy team is that its easier to beat Wadsworth and its also smarter to have them on the schedule. But does it make you better?
I just dont know how you can correlate harbin points to how tough or good a team actually is. As much as I dont like Jackson or Hoover, I think they can thump Perrysburg. But take a look, Perrysburg has more Harbins. Look at region 1. Do you really think the brecksville bees can take eds, iggy, gville, or WGH?
I think Mck has played medium level competition throughout the whole season. Sure Massillon played some stinkers, but as a whole the competition has been at a very high level. Massillon is going to be up for this one, so is the crowd. Mck is going to have a tough time. They are def going to need to get some sort of passing game going to beat Massillon, I dont see it happening. Has this QB seen any sort of pressure all year? How many INT's has he thrown?



Massillon by 12, if someone decides to give "mike da man" a headset then Im taking massillon by 28...

:lol:
u know i hear that is in the works

[Spize]

Doesn't matter who win in the statistical side of the game.



Apparently English class didn't matter much either. Either that or it was typing class.

Massillon has lost soundly to one team this year. That team was Moeller. Ignatius beat us too, but not "soundly". They beat us by taking advantage of our miscues, like any good team would/has, and doing what they needed to do on red zone defense. Mentor and WGH we gave away via turnovers and a bad punt late.

Should Massillon be unbeaten? The answer to that is probably not. However, I think the character this team will take into the Mck game has been developed by playing this schedule and by losing games they way we have. We lost 2 games that we could have won, and 2 more that we should have but we didn't. You learn a lot from a loss.

Will we win a title this year? We could, but if we will is all up to the players.

WE ARE in the playoffs, but for us they began tonight.

[sixerfan889]

So you say that Massillon is should have won two games that they lost? What about the teams that they loss those games too? Do you think for one minute that their fans are saying things like, "why did we let them hang around and almost win the game"? Everyone wants to play well on any given night, but the fact is, it doesn't happen like that every game.

When you talk about how the fed league is basically a lower level of talent of what Massillon plays, well what do you think when Mckinley beat this team and loss to this team? Better yet, what is the record of the teams since Mckinley has joined the fed league?

Bottom line is, let the kids play and enjoy the game. When the team win or loses, don't make excuses for the loss. Excuses will not turn a loss into a win. Analyzing each game by turnovers and what should have happen is the wrong thing to look at. If you want to start analyzing something of importance, look at the scoreboard that will tell you all you need to know

Good luck in the playoffs!!!

[CATS44]

If you want to analyze anything, try analyzing the reason the computer rankings are set up the way they are.

They are set up to reward a team that plays a more difficult schedule.

6-4 against a difficult schedule is worth as much as 8-2 against Hostess City.

[longtimefirsttime]

If you want to analyze anything, try analyzing the reason the computer rankings are set up the way they are.

They are set up to reward a team that plays a more difficult schedule.

6-4 against a difficult schedule is worth as much as 8-2 against Hostess City.

Cats, we don't always agree but you're right on the money with that one. Ignatius deserved to be there the year they qualified at 6-4, and they later showed why.

[MTcheer18]

All of a sudden, this team is much better than Mckinley, they will go far in the playoffs because supposedly they gave WH the game

Who in this community or better yet on this board will accept defeat? I see the post on the front page and it reads how "tigers gave WH gifts". Turnovers is part of the game. Doesn't matter who win in the statistical side of the game.

This team has been beaten pretty soundling by some good teams, but I have yet to see a majority of threads on this board that states this. This is what concerns me. Massillon will lose a game and its all about "how we gave it to them".

When will they lose a game outright to you all

or better yet


When will Massillon when a state championship outright? Playoff format with people from this day and age to witness it

and no this is not a Mckinley fan either



so your telling me without ALL them turnovers in the Mentro Iggy and WH game we STILL would have lost?

If this is what you are saying then you are talking without knowledge. Massillon would and could have won all three of those games. I was at all of them and I KNOW they are better then that.

IT IS A LOT ABOUT TURNOVERS and those turnovers do help GIVE the other team the game.

[91' alum]

So you say that Massillon is should have won two games that they lost? What about the teams that they loss those games too? Do you think for one minute that their fans are saying things like, "why did we let them hang around and almost win the game"? Everyone wants to play well on any given night, but the fact is, it doesn't happen like that every game.

When you talk about how the fed league is basically a lower level of talent of what Massillon plays, well what do you think when Mckinley beat this team and loss to this team? Better yet, what is the record of the teams since Mckinley has joined the fed league?

Bottom line is, let the kids play and enjoy the game. When the team win or loses, don't make excuses for the loss. Excuses will not turn a loss into a win. Analyzing each game by turnovers and what should have happen is the wrong thing to look at. If you want to start analyzing something of importance, look at the scoreboard that will tell you all you need to know

Good luck in the playoffs!!!
Analyzing? Look up the board here pal. You started all of this with your misinformed, irrational logic. From the words of OZZIE GUILLEN... PSSSST PLEASE!!!!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

If nothing else the team has proven once again that they can blow out an inferior team at home!
Did the busses go thru town last night after the huge win over this Cinci powerhouse?

Ok so that's a bit sarcastic, but I just don't see any value in a win like that the week before the game that I consider our toughest one of the year. Oh I know, it's McKinley week and these players will always be ready for the Bulldogs and play at their very best in week 10 no matter what happens in week 9!
Oops! I guess we shouldn't be so certain of that anymore. I certainly hope we don't have to experience another Bulldog loss like we did in week 10 last year when Tiger Nation was SHOCKED by our teams performance!

BTW! If the team doesn't want McK "disrespecting" the Obie logo again this year, perhaps they should protect their house! :TIG2:

[jeroe]

sixerfan889,

:lol:

You are completely clueless. First off to state turnovers are a direct result for Massillon’s losses is not an excuse it is FACT! Also Hoover, Jackson, and Perry although slightly above average teams, they are nowhere near the quality of Massillon in the last decade alone. Don't hold it against me if I don't take your word for it, but lets look at some data.

Since 1999 we have to look at playoff statistics since no one in the Fed will schedule the Tigers except McKinley in the regular season. In the last 7 years Massillon as made the playoffs 5 out of 7 times. Over that time they are 9-5 for 64.3 winning percentage. Over that same span they are currently 6-1 against current Fed teams for a 85.7 winning percentage. In addition 2 of their 5 losses were to the State champs with another to the state runner up. No one in the Fed except McKinley can come close to these numbers. Now Perry and Hoover have each made some runs but Hoover is 0-3 against the Tigers and have been blown out and embarrassed in each game. Perry is 1-1 against the Tigers and my hat is off to them, but they are far from a regular playoff team.

As for a federal league schedule if Massillon had any of the Fed schedules this year at worst they would be 8-1 going into the McKinley game with a playoff spot locked up. Next at 6-4 Massillon's team has every right to be in the playoffs over any 8-2 or 7-3 cupcake schedule of anyone in R2!

Now if you have any courage to show up here again you better do so home work.

[ChronicTiger]

They are set up to reward a team that plays a more difficult schedule.
City.

false statement.........

[tiger4life]

:ohno: but with this school its always we have a tough schedule so we automatically should make the playoffs. stop boasting that you have the toughest schedule in the state. think about the Cincy/Columbus teams down there. I think its good for this school to play against top teams, but when you have a medicore record, don't blame it because of the schedule

federal league you will go 10-1?

not so fast my friend. I honestly believe that Perry, Jackson, Hoover will have something for WHS for years to come. Don't believe for one minute that the federal league is a get over. Look how far Mckinley has advance in the playoffs as same as this school its self

it will be a special day when the Tigers win a state championship on the field and not on paper

and the target isn't on Massillon back consistently, only their fans think that

[LLRose]

Im curious about the facts your talking about?
High Harbin points doesnt say anything about the quality of schedule, or quality of wins. Its only a measure of quantity of wins. Assuming all DI teams, the only difference from a harbin standpoint between beating a 9-0 Wadsworth team and a 9-0 Iggy team is that its easier to beat Wadsworth and its also smarter to have them on the schedule. But does it make you better?
I just dont know how you can correlate harbin points to how tough or good a team actually is. As much as I dont like Jackson or Hoover, I think they can thump Perrysburg. But take a look, Perrysburg has more Harbins. Look at region 1. Do you really think the brecksville bees can take eds, iggy, gville, or WGH?
I think Mck has played medium level competition throughout the whole season. Sure Massillon played some stinkers, but as a whole the competition has been at a very high level. Massillon is going to be up for this one, so is the crowd. Mck is going to have a tough time. They are def going to need to get some sort of passing game going to beat Massillon, I dont see it happening. Has this QB seen any sort of pressure all year? How many INT's has he thrown?

The forecast is calling for an orange out......

Massillon by 12, if someone decides to give "mike da man" a headset then Im taking massillon by 28...

:lol:


The original post was about "laying down" and joining the Fed.

I pointed out you can join the Fed, go undefeated in the league and play a Canadian school and a mediocre Toledo City team and earn the 3rd highest point total in D1 going into the 10th game vs. Massillon.

You can bring up Perrysburg, Wadsworth or any other team, it is irrelevant. Some believe playing the most difficult schedule in the state (debatable) is a badge of honor.

We need to qualify for the playoffs to win a state championship, period.

All in all (I don't want this to be a Fed thread), joining the Fed. is not laying down, it offers you a competitive schedule that places our team in position to make the playoffs every year and compete for the state championship.

They don't have a championship for playing a difficult schedule.

[sixerfan889]

If you join the Fed league, you will play against a rooty-poot team from Canada

but if you remain as a Independent, you will consistently play against the Washington DC teams? By the way, those DC teams aren't known for football in the DC area

So you can choose your poison

[sixerfan889]

Turnovers caused Massillon to lose those games?

Last I checked, forcing the other team to have turnovers is part of the game

What football have you been watching

Dude you have know clue


Blaming losses on turnovers, not giving the other team any credit


I think you have some homework to do before you come back to this board

:rockon:

[Obie Wan]

What is your reason for being here? Did you show up just to insult people?

[ChronicTiger]

The original post was about "laying down" and joining the Fed.

I pointed out you can join the Fed, go undefeated in the league and play a Canadian school and a mediocre Toledo City team and earn the 3rd highest point total in D1 going into the 10th game vs. Massillon.

You can bring up Perrysburg, Wadsworth or any other team, it is irrelevant. Some believe playing the most difficult schedule in the state (debatable) is a badge of honor.

We need to qualify for the playoffs to win a state championship, period.

All in all (I don't want this to be a Fed thread), joining the Fed. is not laying down, it offers you a competitive schedule that places our team in position to make the playoffs every year and compete for the state championship.

They don't have a championship for playing a difficult schedule.

I agree with everything you said, although the font and color were more than annoying. I think we have the same points....smart scheduling is the key to getting in the playoffs. Tying to play the most difficult schedule in the state doesnt mean a thing and could be considered stupid, especially if you schedule yourself out of the playoffs.

[sixerfan889]

I admire this community for how they back this high school team. It just caught my eye when I read the threads on how the tigers lost their games. I have seen some threads that say this team just simply lost. Then I read the lead story on the front page on who this team give games away by turnovers. My only question is, looking at the score from some of the defeats that team has had, when will they outright say we lost because we played against a better team?

I can say that after the Moeller game, it did read "Moeller D puts hurt on Massillon"

but after that game, you still had threads on here saying how this team should have one and they gave the game away

to settle the argument, I will leave this board and tell you all

good luck for the rest of the season

[massillonmaroon]

Our schedule now is not necessarily by choice. St. Eds and Ignat only played nine games and almost played eight. There are only a few independents in Division I. Without being in a league, the Tiger schedule is going to be divided among powerhouses and weaker teams - there doesn't seem to be a way around this problem.

I would rather play a moderate schedule, make the playoffs and the worry about playing the private power schools - odds are you're not going to beat them twice anyway. Play them in November!

If the Tigers get in the Federal League they will be a near lock every year to make the playoffs. Until then we will have to make due.

Beat Mck and then take if from there. I am sure the rest of Region II is hoping the Tigers don't get in!

Beat McKinley!

[npaflas]

I remember MASSILLON went 9 and 1 lost to Garfield and did not make the playoffs. 1983

[npaflas]

We proably had the best team in the state that year.

[LLRose]

I remember MASSILLON went 9 and 1 lost to Garfield and did not make the playoffs. 1983

Only 4 teams made it in '83. I agree with your commet about the '83 team.

[LLRose]

I agree with everything you said, although the font and color were more than annoying. I think we have the same points....smart scheduling is the key to getting in the playoffs. Tying to play the most difficult schedule in the state doesnt mean a thing and could be considered stupid, especially if you schedule yourself out of the playoffs.

Sorry about the font and color.

[LLRose]

If you join the Fed league, you will play against a rooty-poot team from Canada

but if you remain as a Independent, you will consistently play against the Washington DC teams? By the way, those DC teams aren't known for football in the DC area

So you can choose your poison

Read my post before you type.

[ChronicTiger]

Sorry about the font and color.

haha...dont worry, we are all on the same side....

Pound the Pups....

[werperry]

I remember MASSILLON went 9 and 1 lost to Garfield and did not make the playoffs. 1983

was this the game the lights 'went out' ?? :Oo:

[monte81]

Only 4 teams made it in '83. I agree with your commet about the '83 team.

that was a shame! We lost the 1st game of the season and ran the table the rest of the way! We were high powered on both sides of the ball! A complete tiger team!!

[CarlE]

Remember Charles Gladman from Garfield. A dang one-man wrecking crew he was. We had Spielman and Craig Johnson and it STILL wasn't enough to win.

[Obie Wan]

Remember Charles Gladman from Garfield. A dang one-man wrecking crew he was. We had Spielman and Craig Johnson and it STILL wasn't enough to win.
We're we missing the QB for that game? Garfield lost the title game that year. Shoulda been us winning both of those games.

[obie7661]

was this the game the lights 'went out' ?? :Oo:

The lights went out for the Steubenville game.

It was in late 60s or early 70s. Steubenville was ranked very high in the state polls and the Tigers beat 'em.

I miss playing Steubenville.

[monte81]

We're we missing the QB for that game? Garfield lost the title game that year. Shoulda been us winning both of those games.

Dewitz played however garfield were solid on defense and didnt allow us to get things rolling on offense and Gladman was a beast for real!

[monte81]

Back to the thread! Iggy won the title in 2002? with a 6-4 record improving on mistakes and issues every week until the playoffs started! Only time will tell if our toughschedule as gotten us ready for the playoffs! We have to win Saturday to asure the playoffs and i think we are up to that task!! Mckinley has relied on the running of Williams of Sheller all season with little passing attack! We must shut down the draw and stretch plays that mckinley relies on to attack teams! Everyone must perform his assignments on defense and we will be fine! Force mckinley to throw the ball more than they would like and we have the advantage!

Play Physical!
Stay in your lanes!
Execute offensive assignments with NO turnovers!
OH-- Did I say PLAY PHYSICAL!
The dogs have not been in any real physical games all season and a good smack in the mouth would do them some good!!

MASH McKinley!!!!

[Al.]

The lights went out for the Steubenville game.
It was in late 60s or early 70s. Steubenville was ranked very high in the state polls and the Tigers beat 'em. I miss playing Steubenville.

In the 1966 Steubenville game, the power at Tiger stadium was out for one hour before the game when a transformer blew. Start of the contest was delayed for 30 minutes but both coaches felt their opponents did not gain any great advantage by the delay. The Tigers won 12-0 over the top-rated and undefeated Steubenville Big Red.

I do believe that the lights went out during the game against Garfield that potentially affected the final score. However, I don't remember the year.

[obie7661]

In the 1966 Steubenville game, the power at Tiger stadium was out for one hour before the game when a transformer blew. Start of the contest was delayed for 30 minutes but both coaches felt their opponents did not gain any great advantage by the delay. The Tigers won 12-0 over the top-rated and undefeated Steubenville Big Red.

I do believe that the lights went out during the game against Garfield that potentially affected the final score. However, I don't remember the year.

Thanks for filling in the holes of my memory. The older I get the foggier my brain gets.

Dominate Dem Dogs !!!

[TigerCarl]

There seems to be an implication afloat that if Massillon joined the Feds, we'd somehow be a better team because we'd win more games. I don't think so. We'd still be the same team, just with a better record this year.

About turnovers, etc.

If a team fumbles, that's called bad football.
If a team throws an interception, that's called bad football.
If a team gets a pentalty, that's called bad football.
If a team blows a tackle, that's called bad football.
If a team get's a punt blocked, or they drop the snap, that's called bad football.
If a player misses his assignment and does the wrong thing, that's called bad football.

Bad football is what a team plays when the lose the game. Good football is what a team plays when they win the game.

If Massillon stops playing bad football, we will win a lot more games.

We appear to be a talented team that is playing bad football. It's not so much the schedule that is causing us to lose. We are playing football like a bad team, and bad teams lose the big games.

This Saturday we have a grand oportunity to play great football and beat our undefeated arch rival. I have total faith that our Tigers will do just that, and I suspect our rugged schedule will pay off.

The Tigers will pounce on those Bulldogs, you mark my words.

[npaflas]

Yes the lights went out of the Garfield game. I was there and remember it real well. Garfield had the ball and they threw a long pass when they went out. Can't remember the year it might have been in 1982.

[werperry]

Yes the lights went out of the Garfield game. I was there and remember it real well. Garfield had the ball and they threw a long pass when they went out. Can't remember the year it might have been in 1982.

i thought so. i was about 7 or 8 yrs old....and was at that game. don't really remember the game, other than everything going dark...

my grandfather (a mckinley fan) took me. i may not of remembered much of the game...but i did learn a lot of colorful words as my grandfather 'discussed' the game with his buddies from sugardale. :laughing:

wasn't massillon #1 in the state at the time?

[CarlE]

It was definitely that game. Thank goodness I had snuck a couple of Miller Lites into the game to keep me company until the lights came back on.

[MassFan3]

but with this school its always we have a tough schedule so we automatically should make the playoffs. stop boasting that you have the toughest schedule in the state. think about the Cincy/Columbus teams down there. I think its good for this school to play against top teams, but when you have a medicore record, don't blame it because of the schedule

federal league you will go 10-1?

not so fast my friend. I honestly believe that Perry, Jackson, Hoover will have something for WHS for years to come. Don't believe for one minute that the federal league is a get over. Look how far Mckinley has advance in the playoffs as same as this school its self

it will be a special day when the Tigers win a state championship on the field and not on paper

and the target isn't on Massillon back consistently, only their fans think that




Hahaha...thanks for giving me my "Laugh for the Week"!! That's funny. Perry scrimmaged our Tigers this year at Paul Brown and we could have NAMED the score that day. It was ridiculous. Unless Perry suddenly has Brady Quinn at QB to throw the ball, Perry MIGHT not get more than a handful of first downs - that's just being honest. Perry, Hoover, and Jackson can't contend with our speed. Call it arrogance, call it confidence, call it the truth. That's why they get mopped by McKinley, even when they're 8-1. The athletes just aren't there to compete like they used to be. We had our way with Hoover in the 1st round last year, and will probably (and hopefully) do the same to Perry the 1st round this year.

Perry, Jackson, and Hoover better start "having something" for the likes of Louisville and Northwest. Those two teams are probably closer in comparison than we are - and NW is DIII.

The fact of the matter is, you're upset that we're going to make it at 6-4. OK. I can see why you might be bitter. Another fact of the matter is, we DID play one of the toughest (if not THE toughest) schedule in the state. Don't blind yourself in sillyness here. Yes, the Cincy teams play each other and it makes for great battles - but they didn't play as many tough opponents as we have. Even the teams from Canada and D.C. continue to win (both are 5-3), and everyone thought they were cupcake games!

Be real with yourself. If you don't like us, then that's your dilemma. This team deserves to be in the playoffs. Every week they played a regional final team. The truth is, our record could be 8-1...heck I'll even go out on a limb and say 9-0. The Moeller game was 24-14 at one point and we were BEAT UP going into that one.

I can't wait to see McKinley and their stunned faces (knock on wood) after we....oh...I'll just let our kids do the talking on the field!!! They haven't seen a team that runs like us. They haven't seen a team with speed like us. They haven't seen a team as athletic as us. They haven't seen a team that can throw the pigskin like us. They haven't seen a team as well coached as us. BRING IT ON!!!

[werperry]

Hahaha...thanks for giving me my "Laugh for the Week"!! That's funny. Perry scrimmaged our Tigers this year at Paul Brown and we could have NAMED the score that day. It was ridiculous. Unless Perry suddenly has Brady Quinn at QB to throw the ball, Perry MIGHT not get more than a handful of first downs - that's just being honest. Perry, Hoover, and Jackson can't contend with our speed. Call it arrogance, call it confidence, call it the truth. That's why they get mopped by McKinley, even when they're 8-1. The athletes just aren't there to compete like they used to be. We had our way with Hoover in the 1st round last year, and will probably (and hopefully) do the same to Perry the 1st round this year.

Perry, Jackson, and Hoover better start "having something" for the likes of Louisville and Northwest. Those two teams are probably closer in comparison than we are - and NW is DIII.

The fact of the matter is, you're upset that we're going to make it at 6-4. OK. I can see why you might be bitter. Another fact of the matter is, we DID play one of the toughest (if not THE toughest) schedule in the state. Don't blind yourself in sillyness here. Yes, the Cincy teams play each other and it makes for great battles - but they didn't play as many tough opponents as we have. Even the teams from Canada and D.C. continue to win (both are 5-3), and everyone thought they were cupcake games!

Be real with yourself. If you don't like us, then that's your dilemma. This team deserves to be in the playoffs. Every week they played a regional final team. The truth is, our record could be 8-1...heck I'll even go out on a limb and say 9-0. The Moeller game was 24-14 at one point and we were BEAT UP going into that one.

I can't wait to see McKinley and their stunned faces (knock on wood) after we....oh...I'll just let our kids do the talking on the field!!! They haven't seen a team that runs like us. They haven't seen a team with speed like us. They haven't seen a team as athletic as us. They haven't seen a team that can throw the pigskin like us. They haven't seen a team as well coached as us. BRING IT ON!!!

geezus...mckinley might as well not even show up. good job drubbing western hills... :suspect:

oh and a lot has happened since the SCRIMMAGE. :doh: perry might not be among the state's elite...but, i wouldn't count them out against massillon. perry's O racked up impressive numbers vs mckinley. problem was ...perry couldn't stop mck and made costly errors. go ahead...under estimate perry.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I pray that Massillon doesn't make the playoffs and have to play Perry! That loss would be the ultimate humiliation for everyone that was "guaranteeing" another trip the finals this year before the season started!
Bottom line is this team has proven that they can run up the score on the weak teams, but that and the band playing Tiger rag before the kickoff will get you nothing against McKinley!

[MassFan3]

geezus...mckinley might as well not even show up. good job drubbing western hills... :suspect:

oh and a lot has happened since the SCRIMMAGE. :doh: perry might not be among the state's elite...but, i wouldn't count them out against massillon. perry's O racked up impressive numbers vs mckinley. problem was ...perry couldn't stop mck and made costly errors. go ahead...under estimate perry.

You're right. We've gotten more mature and we've been battle tested.

[obie0130]

i don't like all of the talk about how we beat perry in the scrimmage. first of all, we have to make the playoffs to even have a shot at playing anymore this year. second, the scrimmage was a LONG time ago. teams tend to improve over the course of a 10-week season. as a team massillon has made modest improvements from week 1, but i am not sure that this team is ready to make a deep run in the post-season. i think they have the capability to however. we are just too up and down as a team.

although i haven't seen perry play, it sounds like they have improved, are playing confident and anytime they play us, they seem to play the game of their lives (probably since they hate us so much). please, we really don't have any reason to be over-confident against anyone at this point.

[CarlE]

Why we are talking about anybody but McKinley right now is beyond my realm of comprehension. Unbelievable. Our arch-rivals, week ten and we have peoplel worrying about playing Perry. Are you freaking KIDDING ME???? And no, I'm not talking to you TwbT my bruddah. You were just responding to someone else's post.

[MTcheer18]

Turnovers caused Massillon to lose those games?

Last I checked, forcing the other team to have turnovers is part of the game

What football have you been watching

Dude you have know clue


Blaming losses on turnovers, not giving the other team any credit


I think you have some homework to do before you come back to this board

:rockon:



NOBODY IN THIS BOARD FORGOT TO GIVE PROPS TO ANY TEAMS PAL.

IN FACT! i have heard many people say Fair loss.. ect.

MASSILLON's sole REASON FOR LOSING IS TURNOVERS. If you don't agree then you havn't been watching the Massillon Tigers I have.

LOOK AT THE STATS!

[longtimefirsttime]

It was definitely that game. Thank goodness I had snuck a couple of Miller Lites into the game to keep me company until the lights came back on.

That was my first ever Tiger game. I don't remember a power outage but I was in such awe over the atmosphere I'm sure that wasn't a major detail.



I will definitely remember a win over McKinley on Saturday though.

[werperry]

You're right. We've gotten more mature and we've been battle tested.

and i guess perry didn't... :rolleyes:

[monte81]

It was definitely that game. Thank goodness I had snuck a couple of Miller Lites into the game to keep me company until the lights came back on.

I knew the lights went out in a game when i was a kid but did not remember what game! I was not born 1n 1966 so i knew it had to another game also!! We still should of won that game!