Canton McKinley Bulldogs in 4th in Harbins

[DAWGH8R]

The Canton McKinley Bulldogs are in 4th place in Harbin points after 9 weeks, and probably don't need to beat Massillon to enter the playoffs at 6 - 4.

They are currently 6 - 3, after losing their 2 out of conference games to Solon and Indy Cathedral.

So, what this means is: they are 6 - 1 in the federal leage, with their only loss to Hoover. The 5 wins from FED teams are all they probably need to squeak into the playoffs.

If we beat McKinley, and end up with an identical record as them, we most likely are sitting home, while they prepare for a week 11 playoff game.

Someone please explain to me how 'our scheduling mentality' is better than this ??

I know that we haven't even been "invited" to the FED, (yet), but when/if we are, we need to embrace the opportunity.

In region 2, ............. 3 of the top 4 teams are FEDERAL LEAGUE TEAMS.

Our kids have worked VERY HARD all year. I sure think they deserved a shot at playing in week 11. Can you convince our kids that they are not as good as Hoover, GlenOak and McKinley ????

I can't.

Even if these teams get thoroughly WAXED in week 11,........at least they had the opportunity to play in a playoff game.

Our kids DESERVE these opportunities.

:gotigers:

[Mass311]

100% agree.

Twinsburg is 3rd in our region, they have the same number of wins over +.500 teams as we do. We both played Normandy and we won by a greater margin. Twinsburg doesn't even have to worry about the playoffs this weekend, they have already clinched a spot.

Garfield who we beat by 30+ is above us by a few spots in 9th, and very well might get in with a win this weekend.

The fact that both McKinley and Massillon could possibly be 6-4, and we're sitting at home week 11, should open up peoples eyes.

[ChronicTiger]

People are such babbies.....If we dont get in the playoffs it is because we LOST a couple games we SHOULD have won. We had oppoutunities to make the playoffs that we blew, we still have a chance. Can everyone put the tissues away until the season is over? What happened to the no Fed talk anyway?

[mike_da_man13]

About the bulldogs who cares??? they lost to the only slightly above mediocre teams they played. Do you really think they are in position to win state? i think not

[DAWGH8R]

If you poll the kids, no matter the result of the playoff games, I'm sure they'd be pumped to give them a shot.

[mike_da_man13]

If you poll the kids, no matter the result of the playoff games, I'm sure they'd be pumped to give them a shot.

i bet if you polled the kids on who they would rather play hoover, ala or nc hoover... the one higher in pretige would get the nod... i bet if you put up Jackson or iggy the kids would more often then not(only the soft classes would say otherwise) would choose iggy overwhelmingly to jackson.

[Obie Wan]

About the bulldogs who cares??? they lost to the only slightly above mediocre teams they played.
Sounds like us. We just played more of them.

[tiger#22]

People are such babbies.....If we dont get in the playoffs it is because we LOST a couple games we SHOULD have won. We had oppoutunities to make the playoffs that we blew, we still have a chance. Can everyone put the tissues away until the season is over? What happened to the no Fed talk anyway?

I agree Chronic why does Massillon deserve to make the playoffs when they have lost to EVERY good team they played this season. If they would have beat any of those 4 teams they lost to this season they would already be in but they didnt so now they have to hope on Friday night and take care of business on Saturday just for a chance. There is no being invited to the Fed next season or in 2010 or anytime soon so put it to rest, you play the schedule you have and you HAVE to win the games against the good teams or you sit at home it is that simple.

[Seeker]

No more Fed debate until after the season ends, OK?

:wall:

[JakeGiant]

I agree Chronic why does Massillon deserve to make the playoffs when they have lost to EVERY good team they played this season.

What's done is done. Should Massillon make the Playoffs, they have just as much chance as anyone to win Region 2. And if they do this, all bets all off, as typically anything after the Region is a crapshoot, IMHO.

[Mass311]

People are such babbies.....If we dont get in the playoffs it is because we LOST a couple games we SHOULD have won. We had oppoutunities to make the playoffs that we blew, we still have a chance. Can everyone put the tissues away until the season is over? What happened to the no Fed talk anyway?

FYI, I'm not and will not be talking about the Federal League. What I am going to mention is that we scheduled ourselves out of the playoffs this year.

Safe to say that we needed to be 7-3 to make the playoffs, I realize though we have a very slim chance at 6-4. At 7-3, we have a zero chance for failure because we needed to go undefeated on our schedule besides the Big 3 (Iggy, Mentor, Ursuline). We lost to Jordan, and now we aren't in.

Other option is lose just one out of the seven games, and beat one of the Big 3. The 3 schools that have a 92% winning percentage this year, schools like Moeller, St. Xavier, Mooney (twice) and a 8-1 Northmont school who is 2nd behind Colerain right now in region 4, failed to do. Ursuline has a 4 point lead right now on every other Division 5 school in Ohio, State finalist last year and has beat Mooney this year. Mentor the 2 time state finalist, who wins are over schools with 40-23 record, and is 3rd in a tough 1st Region. I don't even have to mention what Iggy has done.

I feel we are better or evenly matched against 6 of the top 8 in our region this year. #3 Twinsburg this year has wins over schools with 29-35 records. #5 Amherst Steele has wins over schools with 29-43 records. #7 Nordonia wins with 25-29, and #8 Freemont Ross wins with 25-38 records. Not even to mention #9 Garfield who we beat by 30+. Yet here we sit at 11th.

Our region is fairly weak this year, and yet we still can not manage to get in. Why? In my opinion the ego's of people in this town who feel the need to schedule tough and then consider a season a failure if you don't win a state championship. But what these people have obviously failed to realize is, that step one of that goal is actually making the freaking playoffs.

These are same people that have the orange blinders on, and still think that we are the dominate high school football program in the state (which obviously does not exist, ex. 4-5 St. Xavier). These are the people that make alot of decisions when it comes to this program. These are the people that in my opinion, is why we haven't won a championship since before I was born. Many ego's that have inflated past our win total lately.

[Obie Wan]

FYI, I'm not and will not be talking about the Federal League. What I am going to mention is that we scheduled ourselves out of the playoffs this year.
I disagree. We played ourselves out of the playoffs.

Do we schedule stupidly? Sure we do. It's counterproductive in this day and age. Nonetheless, this year with this schedule -- it's our fault.

Jordan was a punch in the gut, a bad break, but it wasn't the death knell. Mentor was a failure, pure and simple -- we lost because of our lack of self control and our inability to put the ball in the end zone. That is nobody's fault but ours. If we miss the playoffs this year, perhaps the team can use the downtime to think about the lack of focus and stupid penalties that cost them both a game and trip to the playoffs.

Beat McKinley.

[Mass311]

I disagree. We played ourselves out of the playoffs.

Do we schedule stupidly? Sure we do. It's counterproductive in this day and age. Nonetheless, this year with this schedule -- it's our fault.

Jordan was a punch in the gut, a bad break, but it wasn't the death knell. Mentor was a failure, pure and simple -- we lost because of our lack of self control and our inability to put the ball in the end zone. That is nobody's fault but ours. If we miss the playoffs this year, perhaps the team can use the downtime to think about the lack of focus and stupid penalties that cost them both a game and trip to the playoffs.

Beat McKinley.

That just further proves my point. 5 of the 8 playoff teams this year, have two losses, and they will be playing in week 11.

[ChronicTiger]

That just further proves my point. 5 of the 8 playoff teams this year, have two losses, and they will be playing in week 11.

You have no point. Your upset because we lost some games we should have won.

[JakeGiant]

Mass311, only one "e" in Fremont, please. ;)

As far as the 25-38 record, or whatever it was, at this time, we can't help we're in a poor Conference. That part I won't be afraid to admit. Also, Benedictine is 3-6, and there's a reason why they're 3-6. Not many would do well with their schedule.

[DAWGH8R]

Had Massillon played Hoover, GlenOak or McKinley's schedule, we'd be in the playoffs.

Had these 3 teams played our schedule, they'd be OUT of the playoffs.

Me thinks.:ers:

[Mass311]

You have no point. Your upset because we lost some games we should have won.

Oh come on Chronic, you've read enough of my stuff on Yappi to know that I do not get upset about losing games. Losing football games happen, they happen to everyone. The point of my post is that we are expecting our football team to win every single game they should, and at least upset one other to just simply make it into the playoffs. This is something that other teams do not have to deal with.

If you don't want to be in the discussion that is fine, if you don't have a response to my post that is fine, but grow up a bit from comments like this.

[Mass311]

Mass311, only one "e" in Fremont, please. ;)

As far as the 25-38 record, or whatever it was, at this time, we can't help we're in a poor Conference. That part I won't be afraid to admit. Also, Benedictine is 3-6, and there's a reason why they're 3-6. Not many would do well with their schedule.

heh sorry for the misspelling, was going right off of Joe Eitel's site, and I must of said pronounced it then just spelled it on here. :laughing:

There really was no disrespect meant when I was listing the records. It was more to point out that, that there are several teams in the playoffs that I wouldn't put above Massillon, even with Massillon but not above. It seems the road we take to get there always seems to be tougher then it is needed, tougher then what other teams take and we are doing it to ourselves.

I know I'll get the typical responses that it prepares us better, and I'm soft because I want to back down from competition. These are the same people that will cry when we don't make the playoffs, and demand that we win a state championship or bust. But I don't want to back down from competition, I want to keep playing Iggy. Lately we seems to be scheduling either very easy (low L2's), or very hard (no points for loss) and we are now likely going to be sitting out for the second straight year, in a fairly weak region. To me, that is not acceptable in the least bit.

[hitman]

[QUOTE=DAWGH8R;127915]Had Massillon played Hoover, GlenOak or McKinley's schedule, we'd be in the playoffs.

Had these 3 teams played our schedule, they'd be OUT of the playoffs.

Me thinks.:ers:[/Q

[Bulldog by Osmosis]

[QUOTE=DAWGH8R;127915]Had Massillon played Hoover, GlenOak or McKinley's schedule, we'd be in the playoffs.

Had these 3 teams played our schedule, they'd be OUT of the playoffs.

Me thinks.:ers:[/Q

Had your aunt had a beard she'd be your uncle.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

Had your aunt had a beard she'd be your uncle.


"Balls!", said the Queen, "if I had two then I'd be King!"

[Obie Wan]

Had Massillon played Hoover, GlenOak or McKinley's schedule, we'd be in the playoffs.

Had these 3 teams played our schedule, they'd be OUT of the playoffs.
But they didn't and they aren't. We did and we (probably) are.

There are no moral victory in sitting home while teams that are no better than us play on.

A football program is more than just the team -- it's the coaches, support groups, and administrators as well. Everyone needs to do his part to put the kids in the best position to be successful. Those who would argue that our schedule does not do that are saying that those who made the schedule failed at their primary responsibility.

And they would be right.

[Bulldog by Osmosis]

"Balls!", said the Queen, "if I had two then I'd be King!"

That was good!

[22times]

somebody, on another site(not sure if I'm allowed to say which site), thinks McK. played a tougher schedule than us. Thus, they think McK. will beat us Saturday. Ummmmm, yea ok. Any thoughts on that?

[DragonTigerNemesis]

somebody, on another site(not sure if I'm allowed to say which site), thinks McK. played a tougher schedule than us. Thus, they think McK. will beat us Saturday. Ummmmm, yea ok. Any thoughts on that?

Unreal.

:kungfu:

[obiecam723]

somebody, on another site(not sure if I'm allowed to say which site), thinks McK. played a tougher schedule than us. Thus, they think McK. will beat us Saturday. Ummmmm, yea ok. Any thoughts on that?

Well, IMO, it probably was a Bulldog..and second IMO anybody talking about their own team will tell you that they played a tougher schedule. I just let them believe what they want to believe, I am sure my facial expressions tell all, when all is said and done. :wall: :tig:

[DAWGH8R]

somebody, on another site(not sure if I'm allowed to say which site), thinks McK. played a tougher schedule than us. Thus, they think McK. will beat us Saturday. Ummmmm, yea ok. Any thoughts on that?

My thoughts are: That's why I stay away from other sites.

[Mass311]

But they didn't and they aren't. We did and we (probably) are.

There are no moral victory in sitting home while teams that are no better than us play on.

A football program is more than just the team -- it's the coaches, support groups, and administrators as well. Everyone needs to do his part to put the kids in the best position to be successful. Those who would argue that our schedule does not do that are saying that those who made the schedule failed at their primary responsibility.

And they would be right.

Thank you very much Obie Wan, wise beyond your years. Couldn't of said it better myself.... because I've been trying all thread.

Beat McKinley.