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DaveDawg

10-18-2008, 05:42 PM

Banks

10-18-2008, 06:21 PM

22times

10-18-2008, 06:31 PM

First step to the Fed.

excatly what i was thinking :doh:,,,,,just did not want to say it,,,,,:wall:

kenhrln

10-18-2008, 07:04 PM

fed is the right fit. good competition and every year at least 2 go to playoffs. this year year hoover, glenoak, mckinley

Banks

10-18-2008, 07:14 PM

fed is the right fit. good competition and every year at least 2 go to playoffs. this year year hoover, glenoak, mckinley

I agree, going into week 10 you have

Hoover in First Place
Glen Oak in Second
McK in 4th

#7 proud parent

10-18-2008, 07:36 PM

fed is the right fit. good competition and every year at least 2 go to playoffs. this year year hoover, glenoak, mckinley

I think playing them is good other than the problem of fitting all our fans in their stadium.Its all about the kids anyway and whats best for them.Not having to travel over an hour for a road game........Priceless!!!!!

MTigers006

10-18-2008, 07:56 PM

BEats playing in the Herbie, or playing a Canada or DC Team. Which I call schedule fillers.

The Butler

10-18-2008, 08:59 PM

You folks thought Perry Stadium was small. Good luck. This is the "home side".

http://i35.tinypic.com/10h2hdf.jpg

Photo by Dave Dawg.

22times

10-18-2008, 09:17 PM

wheres the lights at?!?! lol,,,,,looks nice though,,,,,,:thumbsup:

TIGER27

10-18-2008, 09:59 PM

Hmmm Standing room only no way we ever join fed!

Banks

10-18-2008, 10:26 PM

Hmmm Standing room only no way we ever join fed!

It will happen , but when?

Beat McK ( a Federal League team )

TigerBob75

10-18-2008, 10:37 PM

The only thing I have to say about it is, Tigers, It doesn't matter who you play, Glenoak, or the sisters of the poor, play whoever is on your schedule. And you beat them. If you don't want to play them any more then beat them bad enough and enough times that they would take you off their schedule. I think that playing Glenoak will be a good game.

giajay54

10-18-2008, 10:51 PM

Obie Wan

10-19-2008, 12:07 AM

You guys are happier with Stow and Firestone?

This has the potential to be a great series.

caseybaby

10-19-2008, 12:43 AM

And do not forget there head coach is a former tiger assistant if i remember right now

Tigerslover96

10-19-2008, 09:19 AM

Why wouldn't we play one game at home? Doesn't make sense to go over there both years.

Paul Brown

10-19-2008, 09:25 AM

Why wouldn't we play one game at home? Doesn't make sense to go over there both years.

We would. That's what a home and home is. Each team gets a home game.

tiger embalmer

10-19-2008, 09:54 AM

Get ready Tiger fans for your trip to Bob Commings Field as I have been told that Massillon & GlenOak signed a 2 year deal on Friday (home and home). I sure hope they add more seats as there was too little room for us McKinley fans....
Oh by the way

BEAT MASSILLON! GO BULLDOGS!

This should come as no surprise as Tom Stacy hinted to this game last year. I'm looking forward to playing them. As far as joining the Fed, it would be a good move, and it is what's best for the kids. We have to do what is best for them not what's best for the fans.

ReineyKicker15

10-19-2008, 11:28 AM

22times

10-19-2008, 11:45 AM

Joining the Fed would be a good thing. Fun rivalries, close to home, tough but winnable and high computer point games, and a league championship to go after. Who cares if you would have to stand in standing room only sometimes to watch a game. Who on here really wouldn't be willing to do that? Plus it beats driving 3 hours to the game.

That right there is why its a bad idea! Who cares about some stupid league championship, I want a State Championship. We start focusing on winning the League every year, and then we will lose that focus for the higher goal, a State Championship. And how on Gods green earth is it best for the kids? I belive football is the only sport we dont play Fed. teams every year. I just think if we join, its hurts us more than helps us. Heres an idea, since its really not up to us outsiders, why dont all you that wanna join, go to the boe and mayor, and have them put it on the ballot in Nov. and let the people vote on it. Then, if it passes go for it, but if more people are against it, drop it. Expand it alittle even, let the highschool kids vote on it to, since its all about the kids, and whats best for them. JMO, but the real issue right now should be,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,BEATING MCKINLEY!!!! GO TIGERS!!!!

Banks

10-19-2008, 12:55 PM

Buckeye80

10-19-2008, 12:59 PM

Please explain how "it hurts us more than it helps us"?

Whether some people out there like to admit or not, the teams in the Federal League play good football. Is it the best league in the state, like some Fed people like to say? - probably not... But it would be very good competition week in and week out. And as some people have already pointed out - the Tiger fan base for away games is not nearly what it once was so this whole "not enough tickets" argument would usually not hold up. And even if it did once and a while so what? There didn't seem to be any problems back in the old AAC days when we played at Alliance or Steubenville. Their stadiums weren't any bigger than the Fed stadiums now...

One more thing, how has NOT being in a league worked out?
I don't see any state championship trophies in the trophy case.

Playing teams like Ignatius one week and Brantford the next week just don't make any sense (for different reasons of course...).

Many people voted to play a schedule full of "Harbin cows". That is easy to say but hard to make happen. Just who are these Harbin cows that are magically going to appear and agree to play Massillon on a regular basis?

Believe me, I am as loyal a Tiger supporter as anyone on here - a season ticket holder my whole life (50 years). I would love to see the Tigers hoist the state championship trophy in the air. But the times have changed, even though some people don't like to admit it, and we need to do what is best for the ENTIRE sports program.........

Tigerstriper

10-19-2008, 01:19 PM

I think it's a good move,local team, in the same region and it's a home and home deal.Times have changed as Massillon can no longer expect every team to always play us at home.

giajay54

10-19-2008, 01:24 PM

22 Times,

*** *** ** *** Your post was so stupid. At least explain your reasoning. Winning a league title does not alter the big picture what so ever. Think about it, when you win a league championship it means your going to the playoffs to win the state title. The mind set will not shift to "Oh we won a league title that is enough". They will want more and next on the list would be the playoffs, which is being played for a state title. I agree I would rather see Massillon not join the Fed and lighten the sch. (if it is possible to lighten the sch.), but the is me. It is best for the team as far as getting to the playoffs and winning a state title. But best for the kids, not sure if it is or not. Some kids like playing in bigger games in which all of their family can attend, but some kids like playing local for whatever reason. It is hard to say what is best for the kids, but I truely believe it would be best for the team as far as making it easier to get to the playoffs.

npaflas

10-19-2008, 02:07 PM

You folks thought Perry Stadium was small. Good luck. This is the "home side".

http://i35.tinypic.com/10h2hdf.jpg

Photo by Dave Dawg.
Now thats funny.

CATS44

10-19-2008, 02:15 PM

Anybody know how many fans we took to Parma?

To Warren?

To Mentor?

To Ursuline?

To Findlay?

To Cincinnati the last time?

We would be able to take MORE fans to Fed games than we are taking to the away games we now have.

npaflas

10-19-2008, 03:50 PM

Put the game on tv that would solve it.

Striker300

10-19-2008, 04:03 PM

Joining the Fed. is eventually inevitable. I'm saying this, knowing that I despise this league. But, in truth, joining would put us in a field of Harbin cows. Also they only require 7 league games. Now McK would become a league game, leaving 3 games to be filled with whoever we want. We could still play in the Herbie, and have 2 other opponents of our choice. This is by no means taking a step down from our current schedule, it just keeps alot of the travel time down. Some years the Fed. is a walk, others it can be tough. But the points are there for the taking, and we can still schedule strong in the non-league weeks. But enough on this by me, it is a very mute point until they offer us membership, till then we are wasting our breath. Time to move on, Go Tigers! Pound the Pups!

Mass311

10-19-2008, 04:11 PM

That right there is why its a bad idea! Who cares about some stupid league championship, I want a State Championship. We start focusing on winning the League every year, and then we will lose that focus for the higher goal, a State Championship. And how on Gods green earth is it best for the kids? I belive football is the only sport we dont play Fed. teams every year. I just think if we join, its hurts us more than helps us. Heres an idea, since its really not up to us outsiders, why dont all you that wanna join, go to the boe and mayor, and have them put it on the ballot in Nov. and let the people vote on it. Then, if it passes go for it, but if more people are against it, drop it. Expand it alittle even, let the highschool kids vote on it to, since its all about the kids, and whats best for them.

Let the entire town vote on it, and include the high school kids since "its all about the kids". So according to your idea, we let 25,000 adults vote, and then include 1200ish kid's vote "because its all about the kids". I hope you didn't actually put any thought in that idea.

But how about this, you say you don't want a stupid league championship. You just want these kids to achieve something that only about 15-20% of schools in Ohio has ever done. Something we haven't done in 35+ years. What I say to that is. IT ISN'T ABOUT WHAT YOU FREAKING WANT. IT ISN'T ABOUT WHAT THE FANS WANT, IT IS ABOUT WHAT IS BEST FOR THE KIDS! I'll gladly miss a game here and there by not being able to get tickets, if it allows the players of this town to play local schools, start up fantastic rivalries with them and win some football games in the process.

How about this idea. How about we give the kids something they have a good chance on winning. How you feel our football players are going to enter a year thinking they just want to win a Fed Title and nothing else is beyond me. Anytime you have "22 State Championships", you are going to have kids that want to add a 23rd. If being in the Fed stops that will to win one, then we don't deserve to have it anyways.

People in this town needs to put their own EGO's in check, and think about what is best for the kids and this program in general.

DaveDawg

10-19-2008, 04:14 PM

Different views of Bob Commings Field at GlenOak HS.

I sure hope they will be adding more seats in the future, they brought over the end zones stands from Walsh for the McKinley game...really its a pretty good stadium for being brand new, but when you get there...plan on staying for a while as there are only four roads out.

The Butler

10-19-2008, 04:25 PM

Different views of Bob Commings Field at GlenOak HS.

Hope you don't mind me "borrowing" your photo.

Tigerbeast

10-19-2008, 08:04 PM

Why is Herbie such a bad game? I don't understand why people say that. That game is an excellent game to showcase your football program. Plus you get to see a different team. Besides, that was probably the best game of the year. Stop complaining.I agree the Herbie is fun and a great chance to show off your school against a national power.We are 1-1 in it but I guess since we lost this year people want to whine and not play in it anymore.

mike_da_man13

10-19-2008, 08:15 PM

I agree the Herbie is fun and a great chance to show off your school against a national power.We are 1-1 in it but I guess since we lost this year people want to whine and not play in it anymore.

hahahaha if it's not easy it's not worth doing in this town anymore. or atleast that seems to be the attitude i'm seeing on here. Seems to me that if little Johnny might not win we don't want to do it. Like playing D1 or playing a respectable... Life is full of adversity why not let your kid figure it out on the athletic field after all you can't shield them forever.
That's the new massillon motto btw i hear they are going to put it on a big sign in front of the paul brown museum, "if it's not easy it's not worth doing in this town anymore"

obiecam723

10-19-2008, 08:29 PM

Please do not get the wrong idea with my response on this topic of the Fed. League, because I really at one point didn't like the idea, but if it ever comes up that they ask us to join in the future after weighing the pros and cons, the positive issue on joining is not just Football, we tend to forget we have other sports in this school district that would most likely help them.

This opportunity would probably help our basketball, wrestling, golf, soccer and volleball and tennis, and think what it could do for our girls sports. The possibilities are endless!!!!!!!!! And I can see the positives for our Middle and youth programs, which by the way would then feeder into the high school programs.

This is why, IMO, that when I have asked some of the present football players what they thought about joining the Fed. League. everyone of their comments back to me was we needed to join the FED. because in the long run not only for football, it would help every child in the district. So again IMO, these young football players, probably have more common sense on the issues of some of the topics on these threads, than some of us old fans that cannot forget the past and cannot look at what positives are out there for our children's future.

mike_da_man13

10-19-2008, 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=obiecam723;
This opportunity would probably help our basketball, wrestling, golf, soccer and volleball and tennis, and think what it could do for our girls sports. The possibilities are endless!!!!!!!!! And I can see the positives for our Middle and youth programs, which by the way would then feeder into the high school programs.

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i'm sorry i am not buying this arguement look how it helped boardman, mck and fitch... if anything those sports have gotten worse since joining the fed

obiecam723

10-19-2008, 09:14 PM

i'm sorry i am not buying this arguement look how it helped boardman, mck and fitch... if anything those sports have gotten worse since joining the fed

Well, you could be right with those districts that you have mentioned..but I believe with the right administration, right coaches and parents that would back up the programs involved, it would be a a success!! It does not take the school district to do this, it takes the community that is willing to support it and get involved and bring attention and time into these programs. I honestly believe that the community in Massillon, if they would support this with all their heart and soul they would put Massillon back on the map, but it takes everyone to get involved!! What I mean is, not just voicing opinions, but putting your thoughts and ideas to work and helping it become a sucess. What is so hard about that?

I have seen it happen in some districts so why couldn't it happen here? Isn't the children of our community the Pride and Future of this great community we call Massillon?

Obie Wan

10-19-2008, 10:04 PM

...I believe with the right administration, right coaches and parents that would back up the programs involved, it would be a a success!!
If the administration, coaches, and parents were there now, these programs would be a success now. They aren't, and they aren't.

League membership will not affect that one bit.

obiecam723

10-19-2008, 10:22 PM

If the administration, coaches, and parents were there now, these programs would be a success now. They aren't, and they aren't.

League membership will not affect that one bit.

You said it..so there you have it...what is wrong with change? You just told me that in your opinion, people don't like change. Well than, IMO to make it better you have to accept change and go forward. That is what is wrong with this community and I just don't get it. Everybody wants this and that but does not want to change it and make it better. So let's just leave it the way it is so everybody has the same reasons of complaining all the time. I guess some people thrive on that.

Obie Wan

10-19-2008, 10:34 PM

You said it..so there you have it...what is wrong with change? You just told me that in your opinion, people don't like change.
I said nothing of the kind.

Let me spell it out for you: league membership is certainly change, but it is not in and of itself change that will have a meaningful effect on the majority of our sports teams. Saving a few bucks on gas money doesn't put any points on the scoreboard.

You want better teams? Get better coaches, get better players, get more commitment from the administration, get more involvement from the parents, get more support from the community. League membership fixes none of those problems.

CATS44

10-19-2008, 10:40 PM

Buy this argument.

Mck is NETTING an additional $250,000 per year for the athletic dept since joining the Fed.

And this one.

Our average home attendance for this season is around 6500. Its so bad that after the first two home games, the attendance hasnt been announced.

McK had close to 12,000 for the Hoover game.

CATS44

10-19-2008, 10:42 PM

More money equals the ability to pay for a better AD, better coaches, and better programs.

rwilliam

10-19-2008, 11:04 PM

More money equals the ability to pay for a better AD, better coaches, and better programs.

Maybe for you guys but we have not done that at all over here in Canton. Our non revenue sports get wiped up by the other fed schools.

Seeker

10-19-2008, 11:20 PM

Too much Fed talk.

Most of you know that we discourage it until after the season.

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