McCain Wins Debate!

[Indiana95]

SIKE! LOL......

Seriously, I thought the debate tonight was pretty good...

This room was supposed to be filled with undecided voters, right? I'm not going to proclaim who won this debate, because I know where that will go. I think the behavior of the audience after the debate showed who they think won. As I sit here typing, why is it that I have yet to see anyone jump out of their seat to get a photo with McCain or become giddy as he approaches them for a handshake? That's the reaction of most towards Obama! It is so apparent that he was able to "reach" many of the town hall participants tonight, and if I was to guess, will reach many more undecided voters who watched.

Don't trust me though. Check out the last electoral map from the most current polls. Obama now has 289...

http://election.princeton.edu/map/

[pnthrfan]

The format of the debate didn't help McCain at all. When he was walking around, while Obama answered, he looked as if he was an 80 year old man , shuffling across the floor. People don't want to see that. Thay want to believe he is a young vibrant 73 year old man, and that's not the way he came across tonight.

I thought Obama won, just as the McCain supporters on here thought McCain won. This election just keeps getting more interesting everyday!!

[DAWGH8R]

I know that most people think that McCain will be GWB II, but in Obama's rebuttals, I think that it is fruitless to always put down the current administration. He's not running against GWB.

I was conversing with a guy before the debate, ( a republican), and his rant that he kept going back to was: If people thought the ethics of gov't were bad now, wait til they put 2 lawyers in office. ( Obama & Biden).

I feel so much safer when McCain talks about foreign policy, terrorism, the security of our troops & country, & loyalty to our country.

I was impressed with his closing statments. Hearing that made me proud to be an American.

As I've said before: No matter who is elected, not much will change in their 4 year term.

If McCain wins, so be it. If Obama wins, let's all hope we don't have to find out how he responds if our Country is attacked !

From an experience standpoint, I like McCain, and I have a long record of voting Democrat.

[pnthrfan]

I think that it is fruitless to always put down the current administration. He's not running against GWB.


He may as well be. McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time. What makes you think if he becomes President, he will do things differently?

[DAWGH8R]

. What makes you think if he becomes President, he will do things differently?


He said so in the debate !!:wink:

[tiger cub 2008]

He may as well be. McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time. What makes you think if he becomes President, he will do things differently?

It's not uncommon for politicians to vote along party lines.
Obama voted in line with fellow Senate Democrats 97 percent of the time in 2007 and 2005, and 96 percent of the time in 2006
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html

[CarlE]

It's not uncommon for politicians to vote along party lines.
Obama voted in line with fellow Senate Democrats 97 percent of the time in 2007 and 2005, and 96 percent of the time in 2006
http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_it_true_john_mccain_voted_with.html

Don't try to talk logic with her. It's useless. She's sooooooooooooooooo politically tainted it's unbelievable. In fact, I'll bet she can't even SPELL Republican!! LOL. Teasing!!

[MSlater]

He may as well be. McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time. What makes you think if he becomes President, he will do things differently?
Different person and not to mention he has crossed party lines to fix a situation.

[SuperBran]

I know that most people think that McCain will be GWB II, but in Obama's rebuttals, I think that it is fruitless to always put down the current administration. He's not running against GWB.

it's not fruitless. mccain hasn't really separated himself from the current administration. his policies on things such as the economy and the war are very similar to bush's policies. obama simply pointing out that if you weren't happy with the past 8 years, you shouldn't vote for mccain b/c you're going to get more of the same.

I was conversing with a guy before the debate, ( a republican), and his rant that he kept going back to was: If people thought the ethics of gov't were bad now, wait til they put 2 lawyers in office. ( Obama & Biden).

sounds like the guy is a complete moron.

If Obama wins, let's all hope we don't have to find out how he responds if our Country is attacked !

yeah, b/c i'm sure you know how obama would respond.

no one knows how mccain would respond as well. just b/c he's a veteran it doesn't mean he'll know how to direct our country in the wake of a terrorist attack. maybe he'll bomb spain.

[SuperBran]

i think they should make the debate into a drinking game. whenever obama says "fundamental" you drink. whenever mccain says "my friends" or "patraeus" you drink.

[CarlE]

i think they should make the debate into a drinking game. whenever obama says "fundamental" you drink. whenever mccain says "my friends" or "patraeus" you drink.

Or when McCain calls himself a "maverick". I LOVE this idea. Damn it, Bran you and I are going to be friends yet!!! We'll meet at The Alibi, get a TV in the upstairs room and have at it.

[Obie Wan]

McCain voted with Bush over 90% of the time.
I did not know that. How long has the President had a vote in the Senate?

What makes you think if he becomes President, he will do things differently?

What makes you think that Bush will still have a vote after he leaves office?

[Indiana95]

I did not know that. How long has the President had a vote in the Senate?



What makes you think that Bush will still have a vote after he leaves office?

HUH? OW, you seem fairly with it. Dispute the point that regradless of who is elected president, we also get their "party". He may have been a maverick at one point, but like Dubya, McCain is now a puppet. The guys with their hands up his arse making him talk are the ones running the country now and will be the same guys running the country if he's elected. Country first my backside!

[DAWGH8R]

it's not fruitless. mccain hasn't really separated himself from the current administration. his policies on things such as the economy and the war are very similar to bush's policies. obama simply pointing out that if you weren't happy with the past 8 years, you shouldn't vote for mccain b/c you're going to get more of the same. .

To use your quote: Who knows what McCain will do.



sounds like the guy is a complete moron. . Could have been a moran. Certainly wasn't confusing him with Aristotle !!



yeah, b/c i'm sure you know how obama would respond.

no one knows how mccain would respond as well. just b/c he's a veteran it doesn't mean he'll know how to direct our country in the wake of a terrorist attack. maybe he'll bomb spain.

SB, with all due respect, McCain is a little beyond a 'veteren'.

I wonder who the troops are supporting? I'd rather get my orders from a guy that's been in the trenches, vs a guy that's organized PTA meetings.

[bs.gunn]

He may have been a maverick at one point

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print

[DAWGH8R]

He may have been a maverick at one point, ..................

Ind95,

From an old proverb book: It's better to have been a Maverick at one time, as to have never been a Maverick !!

[DAWGH8R]

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/23316912/makebelieve_maverick/print

The top of the article says: ADVERTISEMENT !!!

TIM DICKINSON

Posted Oct 16, 2008 12:00 AM

And, it hasn't been written yet !!??

[SuperBran]

To use your quote: Who knows what McCain will do.

i watched the debates. i know what he'll do. sounds a lot like bush.

everyone keeps saying mccain needs to separate himself b/c he's shooting himself in the foot. he still hasn't done it.

I wonder who the troops are supporting?

that probably depends on what party they support. i know troops that support obama. not everyone who serves is just going to blindly vote for mccain just b/c mccain was a soldier.

I'd rather get my orders from a guy that's been in the trenches, vs a guy that's organized PTA meetings.

so i take it, then, that you'd rather get your orders from john kerry than george bush.

[DAWGH8R]

i watched the debates. i know what he'll do. sounds a lot like bush.
.

H or W ??? :heee:

[npaflas]

Didn't Obama win the debate last night. It said it on the new's down here.

[DAWGH8R]

so i take it, then, that you'd rather get your orders from john kerry than george bush.

I voted for Al Gore in 2000, but GWB in 2004. I'm a left leaner, but given the 'right' candidate, have voted for a republican presidential candidate 3 times . This will be my 4th time.

I don't blindly follow a party line. This will be my 6th presidential election that I have voted in.

[SuperBran]

I voted for.........GWB in 2004.

but john kerry was off fighting in the war while dubya was back home partying. by your standards, shouldn't you rather take orders from him?

[DAWGH8R]

but john kerry was off fighting in the war while dubya was back home partying. by your standards, shouldn't you rather take orders from him?

After GWB's first term, I felt more than comfortable with the way he handled the military.

[SuperBran]

After GWB's first term, I felt more than comfortable with the way he handled the military.

you mean sending them off on a whim to fight in a country that had no connections to 9/11 because he "thought" they might have WMD.....all the while ignoring what was going on in the country where alqaeda was hiding and planning.....then arrogantly proclaiming "mission accomplished" and watching as the death toll kept going up and up?

yep, real confidence in that.:usflag:

[DAWGH8R]

At the time of the election, I still had faith in what he was doing. I think most of the negativity came AFTER the election was over.

[Indiana95]

At the time of the election, I still had faith in what he was doing. I think most of the negativity came AFTER the election was over.

Then shame on you and others who didn't see through the crap BEFORE the election. I and millions of other sure did....obviously enough didn't. You gonna make that mistake again? Sounds like it...:scratchchin:

[Indiana95]

I forgot to mention earlier....did anyone notice that McCain was not wearing a flag pin last night? This is the second time....he didn't wear one in the first debate. How unpatriotic!

Now, why isn't anyone making a big deal about this? Especially after all the crap you guys gave Obama for not wearing one. God bless America. :usflag:

[DAWGH8R]

Then shame on you and others who didn't see through the crap BEFORE the election. I and millions of other sure did....obviously enough didn't. You gonna make that mistake again? Sounds like it...:scratchchin:

I can't make the same mistake again. GWB isn't eligible to run. How did Obama vote on the war in Iraq again ????

[Red50Go]

I do think either guy will be an improvement. But if something happens to McCain, and he'll be in his mid-70's, I shudder to think of Palin in charge. You know she would surround herself w/ the same guys pulling the strings now. I simply can not and will not vote for her.

And I have to admit, Obama's tax proposal puts more money in MY pocket so... Sorry I dont sympathise more w/ you guys making over $250k (seriously). You done pretty good the last 8 though, which is cool. But honestly, and correct me if I am wrong, gas could go to $8 and it does not affect you. Middle class is feeling the pinch and if we cant buy anything you cant sell anything.

[DAWGH8R]

No matter what promises either of these guys make, the house will not let them follow through anyways.

Only one more dog & pony show to go !!!:wtf:

[TomcatTiger]

I do think either guy will be an improvement. But if something happens to McCain, and he'll be in his mid-70's, I shudder to think of Palin in charge. You know she would surround herself w/ the same guys pulling the strings now. I simply can not and will not vote for her.

And I have to admit, Obama's tax proposal puts more money in MY pocket so... Sorry I dont sympathise more w/ you guys making over $250k (seriously). You done pretty good the last 8 though, which is cool. But honestly, and correct me if I am wrong, gas could go to $8 and it does not affect you. Middle class is feeling the pinch and if we cant buy anything you cant sell anything.

Thats brilliant! The same criteria by which you "shudder" with respect to Palin, you refuse to apply to Lord Obama.

Of course you dont' sympathise with those terrible top one percenter's, you've had class warfare drilled into your head. Gas going to $8 absolutely affects them. If you take business owners for instance; if they pay more for fuel - you pay more for their product. And if they have nothing to sell because they are out of business; you have nothing to buy.

[Red50Go]

Thats brilliant! The same criteria by which you "shudder" with respect to Palin, you refuse to apply to Lord Obama.

Of course you dont' sympathise with those terrible top one percenter's, you've had class warfare drilled into your head. Gas going to $8 absolutely affects them. If you take business owners for instance; if they pay more for fuel - you pay more for their product. And if they have nothing to sell because they are out of business; you have nothing to buy.

I felt the same about Obama. But its been a couple years, a primary process, several candidates, several debates, and I have a feel for his intelligence level. I also did not know Palin from Adam. Then I heard her speak (when allowed to be spoken too) and its an SNL skit. I am not a straight ticket voter like some people. And my favorite candidate was/is Ron Paul.

[SuperBran]

How did Obama vote on the war in Iraq again ????

well, considering that he was in the illinois senate at the time, and not the u.s. senate, he didn't vote. what's your point?

[TomcatTiger]

I felt the same about Obama. But its been a couple years, a primary process, several candidates, several debates, and I have a feel for his intelligence level. I also did not know Palin from Adam. Then I heard her speak (when allowed to be spoken too) and its an SNL skit. I am not a straight ticket voter like some people. And my favorite candidate was/is Ron Paul.

Well, Ron Paul is about as far away from Barak Obama as you can get so I don't see how you can marry the two ideologies to be comfortable enough to support Obama.

Things I'm sure you already know (which is why I'm just a bit puzzled):

Ron Paul - most Pro-Life candidate in the GOP primary.
Barak Obama - most Pro-Abortion (including Pro-Infanticide) in the Senate.

Ron Paul - a believer in small government.
Barak Obama - if he had his way he would implement the largest increase in government since FDR.

Ron Paul - huge 2nd amendment supporter.
Barak Obama - not so much.

Obviously these are just a few, but it just illustrates how ideologically opposed these guys are.

With regards to Sarah Palin...isn't Palin exactly the type of person we have been asking for in Washington? For years we have all been saying we wish the politics would end and someone would come along who wasn't entrenched in the game. Like her or hate her, she is the only one in recent memory who has an easy time claiming to be not apart of Washington's corrupt fraternities.

[DE#53]

As long as McCain continues to campaign on his views and beliefs he will not win this election. IMO he needs to get more aggressive towards Obama and try to convince the public that he is not experience enough for the job. Also strongly expose his tax hikes on investments and income.

[DragonTigerNemesis]

Here:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=187570&title=the-stupid-vote

It appears that we are well represented in this group.

:blues:

[Red50Go]

Tomcat, I wont disagree. By the same token Paul also has an absolute and utter disdain for John McCain, was totally opposed to Iraq and still is, and obviously the bailout pkg. And he is a republican - whats that tell you? Who increased the deficit and size of government??? These bozos! We can go round and round. Maybe we can agree Paul is the one true maverick.

And I would bet my mortgage (especially now, lol) Ron Paul thinks Palin has positively no business on the ticket.

Btw, abortion and guns are low issues to me, just political traps. I know Paul is pro-life, and I respect that, and happen to agree. But he also says and I agree the federal government should have NO authority on the matter.

[TomcatTiger]

Tomcat, I wont disagree. By the same token Paul also has an absolute and utter disdain for John McCain, was totally opposed to Iraq and still is, and obviously the bailout pkg. And he is a republican - whats that tell you? Who increased the deficit and size of government??? These bozos! We can go round and round. Maybe we can agree Paul is the one true maverick.

And I would bet my mortgage (especially now, lol) Ron Paul thinks Palin has positively no business on the ticket.

Btw, abortion and guns are low issues to me, just political traps. I know Paul is pro-life, and I respect that, and happen to agree. But he also says and I agree the federal government should have NO authority on the matter.

I understand who increased the size of government...I'm not happy about it. My point was, Ron Paul is for smaller government and Lord Obama is for bigger government.

If you support the notion that Federal government should have a small role (Ron Paul does), which I happen to agree with this part, then how can you support Obama when he wants to increase Federal power? I apologize if this seems just like a repeat of what has already been said but I just can't fathom how on earth a Ron Paul supporter can be for Obama. So you hate John McCain...fine. I guess that is reason enough to elect a socialist.

[Red50Go]

So you hate John McCain...fine. I guess that is reason enough to elect a socialist.

Yeah, thats what I said. :doh:

Thats the problem w/ you straight ticket voters. Heaven forbid the notion that Clinton was brighter, and more fiscally responsible than Bush. Just makes your head spin right off dont it? And suddenly on energy & environment Pubs want to take us the next 8 where Dems wanted 8 years ago. Doh! Dont be such a sheep.

I am picking the lesser of 2 numbnuts, sorry if that offends you. And yes, I do "hate" the Palin pick.

[TomcatTiger]

Yeah, thats what I said. :doh:

Thats the problem w/ you straight ticket voters. Heaven forbid the notion that Clinton was brighter, and more fiscally responsible than Bush. Just makes your head spin right off dont it? And suddenly on energy & environment Pubs want to take us the next 8 where Dems wanted 8 years ago. Doh! Dont be such a sheep.

I am picking the lesser of 2 numbnuts, sorry if that offends you. And yes, I do "hate" the Palin pick.

Wow Clinton was brighter?? What the heck does that even have to do with a discussion about McCain/Obama/Paul? I'll go along with you for a second since you mentioned Bill Clinton and energy issues in the same paragraph. Bill Clinton said "oh we don't need new production plants, they won't be online for ten years." Fast forward ten years and we sure could have used them.

But regardless, you somehow changed the subject completely. You call it the lesser of two numbnuts...and for the most part I agree with that statement. But if you think Obama is the lesser of the two then I still dont' understand how you could have ever supported Paul. Which you still failed to rationalize. Oh but wait, Clinton...something something....sheep....tin foil hats and kool-aide...

[TigerswillbeTigers]

After tuesday nights debate it became painfully obvious that the choice is between a socialist and a pseudo socialist that will flip-flop at a moments notice and sell his sole to the devil to win the election.............putting "country first" of course!
Therefore, I'm voting for the socialist!

[npaflas]

Wow Clinton was brighter?? What the heck does that even have to do with a discussion about McCain/Obama/Paul? I'll go along with you for a second since you mentioned Bill Clinton and energy issues in the same paragraph. Bill Clinton said "oh we don't need new production plants, they won't be online for ten years." Fast forward ten years and we sure could have used them.

But regardless, you somehow changed the subject completely. You call it the lesser of two numbnuts...and for the most part I agree with that statement. But if you think Obama is the lesser of the two then I still dont' understand how you could have ever supported Paul. Which you still failed to rationalize. Oh but wait, Clinton...something something....sheep....tin foil hats and kool-aide... At lease Bill Clinton wasn't worried about the other counties. And he wasn't in the shape we are today. The gas prices were under 2.00 dollars. I think Bill did pretty well staying in the USA and keeping us on are feet.

[DAWGH8R]

well, considering that he was in the illinois senate at the time, and not the u.s. senate, he didn't vote. what's your point?


So, your sayin' he has very little experience ??

[TigerswillbeTigers]

"So, your sayin' he has very little experience ??"

I think he's saying he hasn't been poisoned by being in the senate for over 26 years, and yet he has just as much executive experience as McAngry!
I could be wrong, but I think that's it!

[TomcatTiger]

"So, your sayin' he has very little experience ??"

I think he's saying he hasn't been poisoned by being in the senate for over 26 years, and yet he has just as much executive experience as McAngry!
I could be wrong, but I think that's it!

HAHA you're too funny...the majority of your posts decry Palin for having so little experience and you give Obama a pass on it....HAHA oh dear...your argument sir has been rendered ineffective by your own posts on here.

The funny thing is - as long as everyone has been in the Senate...Palin has more executive experience than any of them.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

"The funny thing is - as long as everyone has been in the Senate...Palin has more executive experience than any of them."

I agree! That means that SarahCuda should be at the top of the GOP ticket since "executive" experience became so important after the RNC!
Funny how prior to that event "executive" experience was never mentioned isn't it?

So lets review;
McAngry runs in the primaries as a "moderate" maverick willing to take on his own party and do what's best for the country in serch of the independent vote.
Then, McAngry wins the primary and quickly decides that he needs Rush and the base so he changes his stance on the Bush tax cuts, Immigration, waterboarding, and many other hot button topics.
Then again, McAngry decides that he still hasn't convinced Rush and the christian right that he's a "conservative republican" so he throws all of his "principles" out the window and breaks his best buddy's (Joe Lieberman) heart by refusing to take on his own party and select him as VP, and instead picks a broad he met for 15 minutes prior to "offering" her the job! Lol
He's a maverick alright!
Then again and again, he's running against change, and when it's not working he decides that he is change.
Then again and again and again he's going to offer everyone a gas tax holiday, he's going to suspend his campaign and return to washington UNTIL A DEAL IS DONE (only to never really suspend his campaign at all), says the economy is fundamentally strong, only to change his opinion within hours and say the economy is in crisis, and now he's the socialist candidate reaching out to all of those independents and Reagan democrats by offering to buy up their bad mortgages so they can stay in their homes! Lol
Talk about a freakin flip-flopper! And this guy claims he puts his country first!Is that the ticket you're defending? Lol

You don't really need to answer my question, I think this election is a hoot!

[SuperBran]

So, your sayin' he has very little experience ??

um, no, you asked how he voted on the war and i told you he wasn't in the u.s. senate then. perhaps i should present it a little slower next time.

btw - reagan was a politician "only" for 8 years before he bacame president. he didn't have the experience that carter had when they ran against each other, but seemed to do alright.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

um, no, you asked how he voted on the war and i told you he wasn't in the u.s. senate then. perhaps i should present it a little slower next time.


I should have known better then to answer for you! I really screwed it up :crap:

[SuperBran]

i'm surprised that no one's brought up the fact that obama had more people in his DISTRICT during his time in the IL senate than palin had in her STATE.

[SuperBran]

um, no, you asked how he voted on the war and i told you he wasn't in the u.s. senate then. perhaps i should present it a little slower next time.


I should have known better then to answer for you! I really screwed it up :crap:


my friend (if i may borrow that from america's favorite son, mr. john mcsame), you didn't screw it up at all. i agree with everything you said. you were saying what i was thinking. :usflag:

[TigerswillbeTigers]

i'm surprised that no one's brought up the fact that obama had more people in his DISTRICT during his time in the IL senate than palin had in her STATE.

Yeah but SarahMaverick gave more unqualified classmates high paying positions when she became governor!
Take that Obama fans! Show me 1, just ONE, unqualified classmate of Obamas that has a high paying job under SarahMaverick!

[Indiana95]

HAHA oh dear...

Palin has more executive experience than any of them.

First of all....."Oh dear"? How old are you? Are you McCain's dad?

And second...define "experience". I prefer quality, not quantity. And besides......it's leadership that I want for our country....real leadership and intelligence doesn't hurt either....."my prisoners"...:stars:

[CarlE]

Well, Ron Paul is about as far away from Barak Obama as you can get so I don't see how you can marry the two ideologies to be comfortable enough to support Obama.

Things I'm sure you already know (which is why I'm just a bit puzzled):

Ron Paul - most Pro-Life candidate in the GOP primary.
Barak Obama - most Pro-Abortion (including Pro-Infanticide) in the Senate.

Ron Paul - a believer in small government.
Barak Obama - if he had his way he would implement the largest increase in government since FDR.

Ron Paul - huge 2nd amendment supporter.
Barak Obama - not so much.

Obviously these are just a few, but it just illustrates how ideologically opposed these guys are.

With regards to Sarah Palin...isn't Palin exactly the type of person we have been asking for in Washington? For years we have all been saying we wish the politics would end and someone would come along who wasn't entrenched in the game. Like her or hate her, she is the only one in recent memory who has an easy time claiming to be not apart of Washington's corrupt fraternities.

Yep. TwbT's and my guy. Along with a money guy Mitt Romney as his running mate. That will be who I'm voting for in November.

[DAWGH8R]

i'm surprised that no one's brought up the fact that obama had more people in his DISTRICT during his time in the IL senate than palin had in her STATE.

And what does the population of the district of Buttcrack O-BLAME-A have to do with running the country??

This guy has ZERO experience at anything !

[SuperBran]

And what does the population of the district of Buttcrack O-BLAME-A have to do with running the country??

This guy has ZERO experience at anything !

well, i'm glad you asked. people make such a big deal of palin's executive experience. they forget that it was in ALASKA! she was the mayor of a town with less than 10k, and a govenor (for less than 2 years) of an entire state with less people than the city in which i reside. excuse me for not being overly excited about this super executive experience that some people like to talk so much of. if executive experience is so important, remember that mccain has just as much experience as obama. zero.

zero experience at anything? your words betray your ignorance. you're truly showing that you have absolutely no clue.....so why don't you go back to posting ridiculous e-mails that your intelligent friends pass on. i've got ton of "fail" pics that i'd like to try out.

obama has just as much executive experience as mccain.

[DAWGH8R]

well, i'm glad you asked. people make such a big deal of palin's executive experience. they forget that it was in ALASKA! she was the mayor of a town with less than 10k, and a govenor (for less than 2 years) of an entire state with less people than the city in which i reside.
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Thank goodness that Palin isn't running for the presidency !!

Why do you guys try to compare O-BLAME-A to Palin ???

He's running against McCain !!

[DAWGH8R]

McCain has 26 years experience in politics, and before that , a full military life of 27 years dedicated to the serving of our country. He's 100% USA driven, and came from a family that dedicated their lives to the USA.

In retrospect, McCain's 50 years of service to his country , make O-BLAME-A's resume look empty.

I don't want "that guy" with this resume.

Two years in the U.S. Senate. Seven years in the Illinois Senate. One loss in a primary election for the U.S. House of Representatives

Also, has proven ties to known terrorists, and comes from a Moooozlum heritage.

These are what has decided my vote.

The only REAL candidate was RON PAUL, and he is my first choice.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

"Thank goodness that Palin" WILL never be president!

[DAWGH8R]

"Thank goodness that Palin" WILL never be president!

Never say never TWBT !! This election just might disprove that.

[SuperBran]

Why do you guys try to compare O-BLAME-A to Palin ???

He's running against McCain !!

well, probably b/c republicans keep bringing up her "executive experience" and stating how obama has none. as soon as people criticized palin they started pointing this fact out. they fail to remember that their own candidate has zero executive experience as well.

here's another thing i find amusing. when defending the fact that palin has no experience in washington, some republicans say how refreshing it is b/c, as an outsider, she's not going to be caught up in all the BS. well, if that's their line of thinking, then shouldn't they be supporting obama? afterall, mccain's had much more time in washington....much more time to get caught up in all the political BS and propaganda. as TWBT pointed out, obama's much less likely to be poisoned. to say that it's refreshing that palin has no experience in washington, but then criticize obama for having little experience in washington is pretty hypocritical.



In retrospect, McCain's 50 years of service to his country , make O-BLAME-A's resume look empty.

so we're judging purely on quantity? i work with many people at my company who have been working at the company for many years, but yet are about as worthless as someone can be. i also work with people who have been at the company only a short time, with little experience, who put the veterans to shame.

I don't want "that guy" with this resume.

and by "that guy" you mean the guy who'd run to the hood. i understand perfectly.

One loss in a primary election for the U.S. House of Representatives[QUOTE]

reagan had an unsuccessful presidential bid in 76. what does a loss have to do with anything?

[QUOTE=DAWGH8R;125689]comes from a Moooozlum heritage.

if you've got an idiot in your family, does that make you an idiot? if you have someone who's done time in your family, does that make you a bad person.

if you honestly think he's a muslim, then i give you much more credit that you deserve (and i don't give you that much to begin with).

The only REAL candidate was RON PAUL, and he is my first choice.

yeah, you say that b/c you hear others on here saying that. i'll bet you have no idea where paul stands on the issues.

baaaaaaaaaaaa, says the sheep.

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. when defending the fact that palin has no experience in washington, some republicans say how refreshing it is b/c, as an outsider, she's not going to be caught up in all the BS. well, if that's their line of thinking, then shouldn't they be supporting obama? .

Very hypocritical by both parties.

.afterall, mccain's had much more time in washington....much more time to get caught up in all the political BS and propaganda. as TWBT pointed out, obama's much less likely to be poisoned. to say that it's refreshing that palin has no experience in washington, but then criticize obama for having little experience in washington is pretty hypocritical.

I do think that it's just a little more important for the President to be experienced, vs the VP.

.so we're judging purely on quantity? i work with many people at my company who have been working at the company for many years, but yet are about as worthless as someone can be. i also work with people who have been at the company only a short time, with little experience, who put the veterans to shame. .

People get content when left in a position for too long. Being the President would be a new chapter for McCain, and surely ANYONE who would have that job, would be motivated to do good.

.and by "that guy" you mean the guy who'd run to the hood. i understand perfectly.

"That guy" was the phrase that McCain used in the debate. Weren't you watching ??

.if you've got an idiot in your family, does that make you an idiot? if you have someone who's done time in your family, does that make you a bad person. .

I surely hope not !!

.if you honestly think he's a muslim, then i give you much more credit that you deserve (and i don't give you that much to begin with). .

I believe that his religeous background and ties with terrorists are the BIGGEST questions that I have. If you can HONESTLY say that these 2 issues don't bother you, than I am really afraid. To blindly turn your back on someone's way of life , would be sinister.

.yeah, you say that b/c you hear others on here saying that. i'll bet you have no idea where paul stands on the issues.

baaaaaaaaaaaa, says the sheep.

Ron Paul actually spoke many times in my city & state, and has the support of a LOT of Nevadians. If you search my posts, I supported Ron Paul BEFORE the democrats even had a nominee !!

Everyone wants to talk solely on the issues. Will the house ever let the candidates impliment their plans ??? I doubt it. Sounds good in a debate though.

I'll keep following the sheep that is in front of me, and you guys keep drinkin' the kool-aid !!

Do you think that Obama was the best possible candidate for the dems ??

I would say, "May the best man win", but the best man isn't in the running !!


Good luck to everyone, because no matter who wins, we'll need more than just luck.

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I do think that it's just a little more important for the President to be experienced, vs the VP.

again, how much executive experience does mccain have? i'll answer for you....the same as obama. so if anyone wants to criticize obama for lack of executive experience, they better point their finger at mccain as well.

People get content when left in a position for too long. Being the President would be a new chapter for McCain, and surely ANYONE who would have that job, would be motivated to do good.

pure speculation.

"That guy" was the phrase that McCain used in the debate. Weren't you watching ??

i was playing on your previous comments about him running to the hood. i thought you'd get that, but apparantly not.

I surely hope not !!

obama's father was waised a muslim, but became an atheist before he met obama's mother. he left the family when obama was TWO years old. yet you seem to put so much stock in obama's muslim "heritage." if you want to think he's a muslim simply b/c his father was raised a muslim, then i'm going to consider you an idiot b/c you probably have an idiot in your family. that explains some of your ridiculous threads/posts.

you've shown your ignorance time and time again, and believe the same garbage no matter how much evidence against your "view."

I believe that his religeous background.....are the BIGGEST questions that I have.

then maybe you should do your homework instead of getting your "credible" evidence via e-mail. i bet you're one of those guys who's given money to a prince in africa, in return for a small fortune. wake up peter pan.

If you can HONESTLY say that these 2 issues don't bother you, than I am really afraid. To blindly turn your back on someone's way of life , would be sinister.

yet you turn your back on the major (and concerning) issues in mccain's past? brilliant.