2009 Football Schedule

[Tiger Flame]

As I look at the program this year it shows that we open the season on Aug. 24 against Akron Buchtel and then Middletown on Sept. 4 and they will have that great Qb. back that they had when we played them last year and they just beat Cincinati Colerain last week. At booster club tonight coach Hall said we will be playing Stow in the third game. We have Akron Firestone on Sept.18. Akron Garfield on Sept. 25. The six game is with St. Ignatius and will be the last game with them. Week seven is open as of now but there is talk that we might be playing Steubenville. Warren would be on Oct. 16. Mentor on Oct. 23 and McKinley on Oct. 31. Do you think that we should play Steubenville in that slot if we can or try to find someone else ? GO TIGERS

[mike_da_man13]

As I look at the program this year it shows that we open the season on Aug. 24 against Akron Buchtel and then Middletown on Sept. 4 and they will have that great Qb. back that they had when we played them last year and they just beat Cincinati Colerain last week. At booster club tonight coach Hall said we will be playing Stow in the third game. We have Akron Firestone on Sept.18. Akron Garfield on Sept. 25. The six game is with St. Ignatius and will be the last game with them. Week seven is open as of now but there is talk that we might be playing Steubenville. Warren would be on Oct. 16. Mentor on Oct. 23 and McKinley on Oct. 31. Do you think that we should play Steubenville in that slot if we can or try to find someone else ? GO TIGERS

heck no stuebenville may be one of the best teams we would play

[The Butler]

heck no stuebenville may be one of the best teams we would play

Over Mentor, Iggy and McKinley. Are you kidding me? Big Red is a good team but not better than those 3 teams.

[Banks]

As I look at the program this year it shows that we open the season on Aug. 24 against Akron Buchtel and then Middletown on Sept. 4 and they will have that great Qb. back that they had when we played them last year and they just beat Cincinati Colerain last week. At booster club tonight coach Hall said we will be playing Stow in the third game. We have Akron Firestone on Sept.18. Akron Garfield on Sept. 25. The six game is with St. Ignatius and will be the last game with them. Week seven is open as of now but there is talk that we might be playing Steubenville. Warren would be on Oct. 16. Mentor on Oct. 23 and McKinley on Oct. 31. Do you think that we should play Steubenville in that slot if we can or try to find someone else ? GO TIGERS

We are in the Herbie again next year , there is no way we will be playing
Middletown in the Herbie.

[Obie Wan]

Stow, Garfield, Firestone, and Buchtel? Did we just join the Suburban League or something?

We should play Steubenville any weekend that's mutually convenient.

We should also drop Mentor along with Iggy.

And the Herbie as well. Who cares about a game against some school no one has ever heard of? You might be able to make a case if the games are at PBTS and we get some other benefits (rent, parking, concessions, etc.), but as far as the game itself -- NFW.

Warren and McKinley -- we should keep them. :wink:

All in all, though, the main problem from a competitive sense is Mentor in week 9. From a fan perspective, though, we could tear down a lot more bleachers and still hold everyone that wants to see the games. Unless we sign Steubenville, I don't see 10,000 for any of these games.

[Banks]

All in all, though, the main problem from a competitive sense is Mentor in week 9. From a fan perspective, though, we could tear down a lot more bleachers and still hold everyone that wants to see the games. Unless we sign Steubenville, I don't see 10,000 for any of these games.


Attendance is now a major problem for us:
8658 For Iggy
8328 For Akron B.
7809 For Akron G.
7158 For Parma
7??? For Canada

[22times]

Attendance is now a major problem for us:
8658 For Iggy
8328 For Akron B.
7809 For Akron G.
7158 For Parma
7??? For Canada

Ok, I understand we may not have 12,000-15,000 people at every home game. But look at these numbers, all long distance for the other team, and of all these, Iggy brought the most. And they had what 400-500 people there. McKinley and Perry play SATURDAY Night, no other high school game in the area and at Hall of Fame Field, at a stadium that holds 20,000+ and there were only 6800 people there. We still have the Largest Fan base in the area!!!!!

[Tiger Flame]

BANKS --I thought we were also in the Herbie next year but the program says Middletown. GO TIGERS

[giant lugey]

I had heard Lexington wanted to play us, but we turned them down.
Lex will now be playing Hoover in 09 & 10

[Banks]

BANKS --I thought we were also in the Herbie next year but the program says Middletown. GO TIGERS


Middletown has been on the bubble for the last 3 seasons.
We owe them a game , as we were to play them the year of the first Herbie.
I think the year before they asked to postpone it due to the money problems they had.
We were to play them this season but the Herbie people found Middletown a game in Cincy.
They could do it again for next season.

[gotigers3796]

Attendance is now a major problem for us:
8658 For Iggy
8328 For Akron B.
7809 For Akron G.
7158 For Parma
7??? For Canada

wow, giving the Canada game a four digit starting with a 7 is REALLY pushing it. I'm thinking more like 3000 tops for that one. I got hit up by so many "scalpers" walking to that game, I felt like I was in Cleveland. They may have sold 7000 tickets, but there's no way attendance was even close to that.

[gotigers3796]

And HE11 YES we should play BIG RED!!!! :rockon:

[tig62]

I had heard Lexington wanted to play us, but we turned them down.

Have any idea why we would not schedule Lex?

[Tiger Flame]

So you would have no problrm playing Iggy, Big red, Warren, Mentor and McKinley in the last five games? If that happens then we better hope that we don,t have any key injuries as playing healthy would be very tough and it could be the difference in making the playoffs. The first five games depending on who we play in the second week could have us at 5-0 or 4-1 and a easier seventh game could leave us 6-0 or 5-1 and a goood shot at the playoffs. As much as I would love to play the Big red again, I think it would be much wiser to find another opponent and have a better shot at the playoffs. Those five teams in a row is asking alot of any team and leaving no room for error. I hate missing the playoffs as it is the first step if you are going to go all the way and getting more game experence for the returning players,the next year. GO TIGERS

[Banks]

wow, giving the Canada game a four digit starting with a 7 is REALLY pushing it. I'm thinking more like 3000 tops for that one. I got hit up by so many "scalpers" walking to that game, I felt like I was in Cleveland. They may have sold 7000 tickets, but there's no way attendance was even close to that.


I was trying to be nice.

I personally thought around 4,800 , and that is keeping in mind they count the season ticket holders and advance sales in that figure.

So really there is no need for endzone seats in the South end.

[Tiger 1]

So you would have no problrm playing Iggy, Big red, Warren, Mentor and McKinley in the last five games? If that happens then we better hope that we don,t have any key injuries as playing healthy would be very tough and it could be the difference in making the playoffs. The first five games depending on who we play in the second week could have us at 5-0 or 4-1 and a easier seventh game could leave us 6-0 or 5-1 and a goood shot at the playoffs. As much as I would love to play the Big red again, I think it would be much wiser to find another opponent and have a better shot at the playoffs. Those five teams in a row is asking alot of any team and leaving no room for error. I hate missing the playoffs as it is the first step if you are going to go all the way and getting more game experence for the returning players,the next year. GO TIGERS

I agree. The back half of the schedule needs broken up. I would bet the Akron City teams would move around a few slots due to the money they make coming to our stadium. Those last 5 games are a meat grinder.

[RossFan]

Fremont Ross is looking for a week 5 game. 2 year deal preferablly. Week 4 we play Benedictine and they are Ind so I'm betting they could move that game around if need be.

[Obie Wan]

Have any idea why we would not schedule Lex?

Just a guess (if it's true to begin with) -- they wanted a home-and-home and we wanted 2 games here.

[CarlE]

Just a guess (if it's true to begin with) -- they wanted a home-and-home and we wanted 2 games here.

If I were a betting man I would agree.

[gotigers3796]

Forgive me, I don't know much about the politics of divisions, scheduling, etc. But doesn't it seem that scheduling any team we know for a fact we can beat, just so we can get to the playoffs, is kind of cheap? I mean, on one hand, a football team is a football team is a football team. But on the other hand, Massillon is definitely not just any football team. So shouldn’t we only play other schools whose team is not just any football team? I mean it sounds like what some of us are saying is that we should schedule a few no contest teams, to give an unfair boost towards the playoffs. Seems only right to put us up against teams who are as passionate about the sport as we are. Otherwise it’s like Pros vs Joes. If we have what it takes to beat them as equals, then we deserve to be in the playoffs.

[Obie Wan]

This isn't 1950; you don't win a state title in the regular season anymore. In any event, "no contest" teams often don't give you much of a boost, because they don't beat anyone else. Playing a school that finishes 1-9 or 0-10 does you no favors (see 2002).

It's hard (read: impossible) to make the argument that missing the playoffs altogether is actually better for the program -- yet that's the argument that the meatgrinder proponents are making.

Remember, the playoffs are for the top 25% of teams in the state. If you're in that group (and we almost always are), then you deserve to be there. OTOH, sitting home because you muscled up to St. Ed, Moeller, Iggy, etc. while some team like Amherst Steele or Wadsworth skated through a weak schedule seems kind of pointless, doesn't it? Sure, games like Stow, etc. are kind of boring on the one hand, but they beat the crap out of getting drilled by elite teams in October and sitting home in November as a result.

[gotigers3796]

This isn't 1950; you don't win a state title in the regular season anymore. In any event, "no contest" teams often don't give you much of a boost, because they don't beat anyone else. Playing a school that finishes 1-9 or 0-10 does you no favors (see 2002).

It's hard (read: impossible) to make the argument that missing the playoffs altogether is actually better for the program -- yet that's the argument that the meatgrinder proponents are making.

Remember, the playoffs are for the top 25% of teams in the state. If you're in that group (and we almost always are), then you deserve to be there. OTOH, sitting home because you muscled up to St. Ed, Moeller, Iggy, etc. while some team like Amherst Steele or Wadsworth skated through a weak schedule seems kind of pointless, doesn't it? Sure, games like Stow, etc. are kind of boring on the one hand, but they beat the crap out of getting drilled by elite teams in October and sitting home in November as a result.

Ok this is an honest question. Are you saying that if we played 10 "no contest" teams, who each lost all thier season games, and we beat them all, making us 10-0, we'd not make it to the playoffs because they lost all thier games?

And I see no shame in "muscling up" and sitting at home while another team goes to the playoffs, as long as the teams we played are our equals and we lost fair and square. Yes it would make me mad to see a team play who "skated through a weak schedule", but doesn't that put us right in there with them if we ourselves purposely play a partly weak schedule?

[Obie Wan]

Ok this is an honest question. Are you saying that if we played 10 "no contest" teams, who each lost all thier season games, and we beat them all, making us 10-0, we'd not make it to the playoffs because they lost all thier games?
Yes.

And I see no shame in "muscling up" and sitting at home while another team goes to the playoffs, as long as the teams we played are our equals and we lost fair and square. Yes it would make me mad to see a team play who "skated through a weak schedule", but doesn't that put us right in there with them if we ourselves purposely play a partly weak schedule?
No. "Weak" is a matter of perception, but "smart" might be a better word. Keep your eye on the ball here: the ultimate goal is the state championship. For the last 30+ years, the only way to get that has been through the playoffs. In that light, everyone must do their best to do what it takes to get us in a position to win that title -- and that includes the folks who make out the schedule.

[1940Tigers]

To put this in perspective, would Ohio State schedule Oklahoma, USC, Florida, Texas and Michigan over the last five weeks of the season in the BCS playoff era. I think not!

[TigerCook]

WOW....of all the threads i've read on here in last two weeks about scheduling and who would you play and not play and blah, blah.......1940 tigers put it the best. That should put this all in perspective to all the people who want to man up and play the best every week and we struggle to another 6-4 and 5-5 schedule. I love adding Stow and Firestone to the schedule for next year. We beat them and they will win 3-5 games giving you some points. Hey, these are both D-1 schools. I would LOVE to play Stuebenville every year home and away.......but let's try to get it done year after Iggy comes off schedule.

[gotigers3796]

The thing I don't fully understand is the points.

If we play a team that may be "weak" to us, the benefit would be that we easily collect on the points they've accrued by beating other opponents, as opposed to playing a tougher team (to "man up") and chance losing those points, leaving us farther away from the playoffs?

[pyromaniac]

Yes.


No. "Weak" is a matter of perception, but "smart" might be a better word. Keep your eye on the ball here: the ultimate goal is the state championship. For the last 30+ years, the only way to get that has been through the playoffs. In that light, everyone must do their best to do what it takes to get us in a position to win that title -- and that includes the folks who make out the schedule.

Exactly right. The goal every year is a state title. It must be remembered though that the goal can only be attained through steps. First step is make the playoffs. No playoffs = no state title. Muscling up does us no good if we can't win those games. Good coaching should prepare the team to play anyone. If we play some lesser teams during the season, good coaching will make sure that the kids learn fundamentals from those games through execution and repetition so they are prepared to play the couple of really good teams they will have to on the way to the title. Teams like Iggy and X win by outexecuting and playing with sound fundamentals. That is what good coaching gets you.

[pyromaniac]

The thing I don't fully understand is the points.

If we play a team that may be "weak" to us, the benefit would be that we easily collect on the points they've accrued by beating other opponents, as opposed to playing a tougher team (to "man up") and chance losing those points, leaving us farther away from the playoffs?

A weak team that wins most of their games gives us a lot of points when we beat them. Harbin points are based off of the won-lost record of the teams you beat. The more wins they have, the more points we collect. We collect nothing from a team we lose to, regardless of how strong or weak they are. There are no moral victories. The idea is to collect the most points during the season and you do so by winning your games. Playing tough teams you usually do not beat does not benefit you at all from a playoff perspective if you lose.

[gotigers3796]

So basically we mix it up. A few hard ones, a few "easy" ones, and that evens out the schedule giving us a mix of competitive games that are interesting to watch, while keeping a chance at the playoffs? And in the process we sacrifice some of what would be awesome games, to keep ahold of that playoff possibility?

[pyromaniac]

So basically we mix it up. A few hard ones, a few "easy" ones, and that evens out the schedule giving us a mix of competitive games that are interesting to watch, while keeping a chance at the playoffs? And in the process we sacrifice some of what would be awesome games, to keep ahold of that playoff possibility?

Bingo! As Obie Wan stated,you must keep your eye on the ball, in this case the state title. You want to play a strong enough schedule to get into the playoffs, but not so strong that you have nothing left by time you get there or can't win enough games to even get in. The awesome games will come in the playoffs. If you remember 05, there were some great ones. The goal is the state title. You have to get into the playoffs for that to even be a possibility.

[tigerfred]

Exactly right. The goal every year is a state title. It must be remembered though that the goal can only be attained through steps. First step is make the playoffs. No playoffs = no state title. Muscling up does us no good if we can't win those games. Good coaching should prepare the team to play anyone. If we play some lesser teams during the season, good coaching will make sure that the kids learn fundamentals from those games through execution and repetition so they are prepared to play the couple of really good teams they will have to on the way to the title. Teams like Iggy and X win by outexecuting and playing with sound fundamentals. That is what good coaching gets you.

No, that's what excellant talent gets you.

[tigerfred]

Bingo! As Obie Wan stated,you must keep your eye on the ball, in this case the state title. You want to play a strong enough schedule to get into the playoffs, but not so strong that you have nothing left by time you get there or can't win enough games to even get in. The awesome games will come in the playoffs. If you remember 05, there were some great ones. The goal is the state title. You have to get into the playoffs for that to even be a possibility.

I thought the #1 priority in Massillon was to beat McKinley every year.

[tigerfred]

I agree. The back half of the schedule needs broken up. I would bet the Akron City teams would move around a few slots due to the money they make coming to our stadium. Those last 5 games are a meat grinder.

You seem to forget that the Akron City teams are in a league and can't move around, money or no money.

[Obie Wan]

You seem to forget that the Akron City teams are in a league and can't move around, money or no money.
Not true. For example, Buchtel plays Ursuline this week. East played an out-of-league game last week. Ellet plays Central this week. North plays Beaver Local in week 10.

[CatAlum]

I understand, philosophically, what Massillon hopes to do in the future with it's schedule. It makes sense to me. Practically speaking, however, how is this philosophy implimented WITHOUT joining the Fed?

[Tiger Flame]

As of right now,Glen Oak has 6 wins and the teams they beat have 20 wins. Brunswick has 7 wins and the teams they beat have 18 wins and Glen Oak is number one and Brunswick is second. If you beat all ten teams that you played and they all finished 5-5 then you would be in the playoffs every year. That would total 50 wins plus your 10 and equal 60 wins. You could still lose a game or two and still make it. GO TIGERS

[Obie Wan]

At Stow? If we were willing to do a home-and-home, there are a lot of programs that would make for better games than Stow.

[pyromaniac]

I thought the #1 priority in Massillon was to beat McKinley every year.

Depends on who you talk to. For myself, I would want to win state. I consider beating McK a step on the path to winning a title and I would assume if we won, we would have to beat McK at least once on the way there.

[pyromaniac]

No, that's what excellant talent gets you.

Only partially true. Good coaching and excellent talent together is a tough combination to beat. Excellent talent with poor coaching will not win you many games though.

[The Butler]

Practically speaking, however, how is this philosophy implimented WITHOUT joining the Fed?

Quit insisting on 7 or 8 home games every year. This season is at 6 only because Fawcett hosted the Herbie. The vast majority of teams around the state get 5 home games.

[ChronicTiger]

Is this some kind of Joke? 2009 Schedule? It is 2008 people. Honest to FREAKING GOD.

[Coke Guy]

Finally some people are talking sense. The regular season is the playoffs to get in the playoffs. Put yourself in a position to win. I feel that are present schedule keeps us from doing that.

[tigerpride]

Someone mentioned Ohio State and winning championships, tell me again when was the last time the Buckeyes won a national championship, with their wonderful talent, wonderful coach and wonderful schedule?

From what I could find it was 2002, so maybe they should play some more patsies to help them get their so they can lose again!

We all might as well quit with our opinions because the AD and BOE are going to do what they want. As far as I'm concerned, scheduling all of these Akron Schools again is ridiculous. I'm not sure what it is our AD does to earn his money, but I sure find it interesting this is the best he can come up with, but there's always the Fed who will hopefully beg us to be a part of their group and then maybe we could win a Fed title like Ohio State wins the Big Ten. Whopee!

[tig62]

I thought the #1 priority in Massillon was to beat McKinley every year.

A state crown without beating McK. along the way IMHO is sort of like kissing your sister, but as of now I'd take it(desperation).

[freddy g]

At Stow? If we were willing to do a home-and-home, there are a lot of programs that would make for better games than Stow.

Is this Stow, Stow-Monroe Falls?

Why not play them along with Garfield and Firestone. Garfield and Firestone have owned the ACS over the past few years. These are the games that get us points. IMO, the schedule would look good with these teams...

Week 1
Buchtel/Firestone/Garfield - A decent tuner game, local D-1/2 team
Week 2
Brunswick/Wadsworth/Nordonia - A good D-1, preferably in our region
Week 3
Fremont Ross/Lexington/Steubenville - A good game, for the fans and points
Week 4
Buchtel/Firestone/Garfield - Schedule filler D-1/2 local
Week 5
Mentor - Good recent rival/playoff contender
Week 6
Stow/Twinsburg/Cleveland Hts - D-1 schedule filler
Week 7
Benedictine/Ursuline/Ed's - Beatable/Good independent due to league play
Week 8
Warren Harding - Good rival/playoff contender
Week 9
Buchtel/Firestone/Garfield - Whoever's left/schedule filler
Week 10
McKinley

Potential Schedule...
Buchtel
Brunswick
Steubenville
Firestone
Mentor
Stow
Benedictine
WGH
Garfield
McK

That's a pretty tough schedule, still with possibilities of getting good points along the way.

[TIGER27]

Stow, Garfield, Firestone, and Buchtel? Did we just join the Suburban League or something?

We should play Steubenville any weekend that's mutually convenient.

We should also drop Mentor along with Iggy.

And the Herbie as well. Who cares about a game against some school no one has ever heard of? You might be able to make a case if the games are at PBTS and we get some other benefits (rent, parking, concessions, etc.), but as far as the game itself -- NFW.

Warren and McKinley -- we should keep them. :wink:

All in all, though, the main problem from a competitive sense is Mentor in week 9. From a fan perspective, though, we could tear down a lot more bleachers and still hold everyone that wants to see the games. Unless we sign Steubenville, I don't see 10,000 for any of these games.

I donno about that. We've either beaten Mentor or played a very competitive game with them every year.

[Broder]

If I were a betting man I would agree.

Good thing you aren't a betting man. Lex gave Massillon several options to play, including 2 games...both in Massillon. Massillon turned down all options. They just don't want to play Lex and Coach Payne.

I have no idea why, you'll have to ask the Head Coach & AD.

Lex will have a strong team for the next several years and would be a Harbin Cow...if Massillon beats them. I read talk about scheduling Stuebenville, Stow, and some other schools. Lex is Div.II and will give Massillon tons of points in the computer system. Too bad they won't play, it would be a great game.

For those posting on here that think Massillon would just walk on the field and thrash Lex, you haven't seen Lex play. They are no pushover...I don't care what their schedule is. They are improving every year. Maybe that's the problem.

[TigerCook]

HONEST TO GOD, I hated Shepas as Coach, but 1 thing I agree 100% with something he said one night: "Are you people ever happy with anything in this town?" Just let the AD and coach do their jobs and let's relax and watch the games and remember this is for the kids------I know some of you think Massillon football coaches and adminstrators actually make their decisions on what you think and write on here.....hint...they don't.....they have many tough decisions to make and what YOU THINK the schedule should be is not their top priority. Adding Stow and Firestone will be great for next year's team and they will be better next year...this schedule will let them win and get in the playoffs.
Broder: you know why were not scheduling Lex....quit trying to start trouble! You know some people wanted Payne as coach and the adminstration is going to back Hall, so there not going to schedule Lex out of respect to Hall. It's a no-win situation for Hall....if he wins people say oh he should win because Massillon is better than Lexington and if he loses then people start coming out of the woodwork saying-----see, we should have hired Payne instead of Hall. Other than a harbin cow(agreed), it does our program no good opening up those can of worms---we need to support this coach and give him our backing or again--we will fail and doing this all over again in couple of years.

[Broder]

HONEST TO GOD, I hated Shepas as Coach, but 1 thing I agree 100% with something he said one night: "Are you people ever happy with anything in this town?" Just let the AD and coach do their jobs and let's relax and watch the games and remember this is for the kids------I know some of you think Massillon football coaches and adminstrators actually make their decisions on what you think and write on here.....hint...they don't.....they have many tough decisions to make and what YOU THINK the schedule should be is not their top priority. Adding Stow and Firestone will be great for next year's team and they will be better next year...this schedule will let them win and get in the playoffs.
Broder: you know why were not scheduling Lex....quit trying to start trouble! You know some people wanted Payne as coach and the adminstration is going to back Hall, so there not going to schedule Lex out of respect to Hall. It's a no-win situation for Hall....if he wins people say oh he should win because Massillon is better than Lexington and if he loses then people start coming out of the woodwork saying-----see, we should have hired Payne instead of Hall. Other than a harbin cow(agreed), it does our program no good opening up those can of worms---we need to support this coach and give him our backing or again--we will fail and doing this all over again in couple of years.


I am not trying to stir up trouble. I simply answered a couple of posts with facts. If you would have time and want to..go back and check my posts on different threads about Coach Hall. I think he is a great young coaching talent and have said that on several posts.

I agree with what you are saying about respecting the coach, but I still have the right to post the truth on here, to answer posts. If you had posted your reasons earlier on this thread, I wouldn't have had to. Once again...not trying to start trouble, if I was I would have worded my post differently.

Sorry if I upset you or anyone else. But, just for the record...I do not know why Massillon won't schedule Lex (other than what you just said and it makes sense)...I am not privy to that information. :hug:

[Obie Wan]

For those posting on here that think Massillon would just walk on the field and thrash Lex, you haven't seen Lex play.
Well, if you've seen Lex play a lot, then you're missing a lot of Massillon games.

[Broder]

Well, if you've seen Lex play a lot, then you're missing a lot of Massillon games.


No. Your watching Lex play on a Friday night, when Massillon plays a Saturday night game. Then watching Massillon play that Saturday night.

What's your point???

[TigerCook]

OK BRODER, I took a deep breath and feel better now. In my honest opinion, I believe that's the thinking of why, IF Lexington came to us, why we wouldn't schedule them.
If I seemed liked I was ranting, I was!, but basically because there is now couple threads about who we should and shouldn't play........I wish everyone would just let the AD and coach do their jobs and we will be there to support!!!! We all agree on one thing though----GO TIGERS----WE MUST WIN THIS SAT. NIGHT!!

[Fats]

Quit insisting on 7 or 8 home games every year. This season is at 6 only because Fawcett hosted the Herbie. The vast majority of teams around the state get 5 home games.
Most teams do not have Paul Brown Tiger Stadium to play in. With our facility and our fan base, we should expect 6 to 7 games a season.

[Tigerbeast]

We don't need to play one of the toughest schedules every year but stow and firestone come on we can do better than that.

[npaflas]

I thought the #1 priority in Massillon was to beat McKinley every year. And win a state title.

[22times]

Priority 1a- BEAT MCKINLEY!!!!
Priority 1b- Win the Championship Game!!!

:TIG2:

[Al.]

Quit insisting on 7 or 8 home games every year. This season is at 6 only because Fawcett hosted the Herbie. The vast majority of teams around the state get 5 home games.


Welcome to the FED :gasp:

[CATS44]

FYI:

Fitch is playing seven home games this year. McK and Hoover are playing six. The rest are playing five.

Thats with an eight team league. A seven team league would mean six league games (three away league games per year). Four non league games to schedule as we choose. Keep WGH home and home...and we would alternate between six and seven home games per year.

When we played in the AAC and had UA and Altoona on the schedule, we played six home games per year.

[Obie Wan]

A seven team league would mean six league games (three away league games per year).
Which would presumably mean that Fitch and Boardman are gone. Are they?

[#1whitmerfan]

http://www.hometeamsonline.com/teams/?u=WHITMERFOOTBALL&t=c&s=football&p=home

Toledo Whitmer has a couple of open dates to fill next year, it would be a great game I'm sure. Have your AD contact Mr. Tom Snook

[Fats]

Attendance is now a major problem for us:
8658 For Iggy
8328 For Akron B.
7809 For Akron G.
7158 For Parma
7??? For Canada

Just remember 90% plus of that ticket money went to our program. How much if we play in a stadium that we only received 2-3000 tickets. It is pretty nice to have a 4000 plus gate already sold before the season starts.

[Banks]

Just remember 90% plus of that ticket money went to our program. How much if we play in a stadium that we only received 2-3000 tickets. It is pretty nice to have a 4000 plus gate already sold before the season starts.


If we were in a league such as one from the area we would keep 100% when
when we have home games.

[cantoncoyotes08]

If we were in a league such as one from the area we would keep 100% when
when we have home games.

Why? What does being in a league matter? I'm not being smart, I just dont understand, how?

[Fats]

If we were in a league such as one from the area we would keep 100% when
when we have home games.

I do not think we would keep 100%. The other school would sell tickets through their ticket office and keep ticket money. We would give them so many tickets for their fans. That is one of the problems if we join a league, less home games. So, for example, we play glenoak at their house we may only get 1200 tickets. The next problem would be who gets the tickets, we have close to 4000 season ticket holders.

[massillonmarine]

To further the point, I think we have well over a thousand fans that buy tickets to each game that aren't season ticket holders. Some fans don't care where they sit, don't want to pay money up front, but still come to every game.

[tiger#22]

FYI:

Fitch is playing seven home games this year. McK and Hoover are playing six. The rest are playing five.

Thats with an eight team league. A seven team league would mean six league games (three away league games per year). Four non league games to schedule as we choose. Keep WGH home and home...and we would alternate between six and seven home games per year.

When we played in the AAC and had UA and Altoona on the schedule, we played six home games per year.

Since 1950 the Tigers have only had 9 seasons where they played 6 home games.

[cantoncoyotes08]

People always say how Massillon plays to many games at Home. Ursaline, Plays 8 games this year at Home!!!!! Just thought Id through that out there!!!! :upside:

[Banks]

People always say how Massillon plays to many games at Home. Ursaline, Plays 8 games this year at Home!!!!! Just thought Id through that out there!!!! :upside:

Does Ursaline play all their home games at YSU ?
If so that has to cost a bunch, Hey were was all the Tiger fans for that road game? We sold less than 700

[ChronicTiger]

Does Ursaline play all their home games at YSU ?
If so that has to cost a bunch, Hey were was all the Tiger fans for that road game? We sold less than 700

crowd was thin that night. Rainy also.

[Banks]

crowd was thin that night. Rainy also.

What does the rain have to do with our pre sales for that game ?

[ChronicTiger]

What does the rain have to do with our pre sales for that game ?

Huh? He said "Hey were was all the Tiger fans for that road game?", actually should have used 'where' btw. Anyway, I think a crapy day would have something to do with the poor turnout that night. LOL...that was you that said that. Where (or is it were?) did you say anything about pre sales?

:lol:

[Banks]

Huh? He said "Hey were was all the Tiger fans for that road game?", actually should have used 'where' btw. Anyway, I think a crapy day would have something to do with the poor turnout that night. LOL...that was you that said that. Where (or is it were?) did you say anything about pre sales?

:lol:


That number didn't come from me standing there counting the Tiger Fans as they made their way up to the ticket windows at YSU.

Thanks for the spelling lesson, I am sure I will misspell many more, you know how it is when you are having a crapy day or is it crappy ?