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TigerswillbeTigers
09-04-2008, 03:49 PM
I can't help but wonder how the Sarah Palin speech will affect peoples perception of John McCain after his speech tonight, and in the days and weeks to come.
We all know McCain and his advisers have tried everything possible to take the spotlight off of his age, and have resisted efforts by some in the party to convince him to pick Romney, or Pawlenty, or even Jindal and Crist. The biggest reason being that all of them are much younger, and have been called too "Presidential" looking for him to be seen campaigning with.
We also know that the McCain camp has been battling that same exact comparison with regards to Obama.

Now we have a case where Sarah Palin rocked the house last night, and John McCain will speak to the same audience tonight. I for one think no matter what words McCain uses tonight, he'll be old news by tomorrow. I predict Sarah Palins speech will not only be the memorable one coming out of the convention, and will be in the days and weeks to come, but McCain will find out very quickly that she's exactly what he didn't want in the male candidates excluded when he hits the campaign trail.

bs.gunn
09-04-2008, 04:00 PM
I don't think her speech was that great. It played to her base but isn't bringing anyone else new to the party.

Although I agree with your assessment of people thinking McCain is old news. I mean the guy is already boring as hell to listen too. I wonder how many times he's going to say "my friends" I'm going to say at least 8 times.

pnthrfan
09-04-2008, 04:03 PM
I wonder how many times he's going to say "my friends" I'm going to say at least 8 times.

I'll say 25 times.

Indiana95
09-04-2008, 04:12 PM
Even my republican sister, who's in town visiting, thought Palin's speech was OK. She started off good, then the RNC script kicked in and that's when she lost my sister. Even offened her to a degree. Boy were we up late "talking" the election ahead of us. :argue:

We do agree on many issues (especially social ones) and agreed to disagree on a number of other issues. At the end of the night, it became clear that we (none of us in America) are really voting for Obama or McCain, we are basically voting for a party and its principles.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm voting for a different party than the one that's been in charge these past 8 years. Rove, Cheney, Bush et al won't have the titles anymore, but their noses could still be in McCain's business if the GOP stay in power. I'm not willing to take that risk. IMHO

CarlE
09-04-2008, 04:18 PM
Even my republican sister, who's in town visiting, thought Palin's speech was OK. She started off good, then the RNC script kicked in and that's when she lost my sister. Even offened her to a degree. Boy were we up late "talking" the election ahead of us. :argue:

We do agree on many issues (especially social ones) and agreed to disagree on a number of other issues. At the end of the night, it became clear that we (none of us in America) are really voting for Obama or McCain, we are basically voting for a party and its principles.

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm voting for a different party than the one that's been in charge these past 8 years. Rove, Cheney, Bush et al won't have the titles anymore, but their noses could still be in McCain's business if the GOP stay in power. I'm not willing to take that risk. IMHO

Unfortunately that is what Bush (who promised to fix it) and Clinton before him did. They have polarized this country to the extent that people are actually voting party and principles. Principles SHOULD be a part of the equation, as should party. Unfortunately, with the divide now between the right and left the chasm is uncrossable. I just think it's a shame that people will be "crossing the chasm" on the other side just because of the doings of one bozo and the guy really running the country who will go down as one of the biggest crooks in American politics. Of couse I speak of The Dick (remember that TwbT???)

CarlE
09-04-2008, 04:19 PM
I don't think her speech was that great. It played to her base but isn't bringing anyone else new to the party.

Although I agree with your assessment of people thinking McCain is old news. I mean the guy is already boring as hell to listen too. I wonder how many times he's going to say "my friends" I'm going to say at least 8 times.

OK, now that she has spoken, and has accepted the Republican nomination for Vice-President can we STOP the character assassinations and get to the issues? PLEASE???

TigerswillbeTigers
09-04-2008, 04:29 PM
bs.gunn

At this point it's difficult to say whether or not she'll bring mass appeal to the ticket. Interestingly, the reasons she was chosen for this ticket are at completely opposite ends of the scale when it comes to voters.
On one hand she was chosen to "rally" and solidify "the base". After last night you would have to say they accomplished that.
On the other hand she's "supposed" to appeal to the "Hillary" voters, the "Reagan" democrats, and the Independents that reside in the middle in politics. I submit that the second reason for selecting her is going to be a mountainous challenge for the McCain/Palin campaign.
Nothing Palin said last night will attract large numbers of "Hillary" voters because her stance on the policies important to them, and McCains history in voting against "equal pay for equal work", health care, and guns will drive them further away.
The group known as the "Reagan" democrats is going to be tough to appeal to because the large majority of them are voters that are most affected by this weak economy, and they see the ticket as 4 more years of Bush/Cheney.
The large majority of the Independents will resist this ticket because Palin is seen as being waaaaaaay too far to the right, and the fact that Rush Limbaugh has now decided to promote John McCain as John McBrilliant, and this group can't stand him! In other words, the disengenous endorsement of of McCain by Rush just because he picked a staunch conservative as his running mate, will send the "undecided" running the other way. Because they can't stand Rush, and what he stands for!
In the end, Rush Limbaugh might just clinch this election for Obama. His sheep were going to vote for the ticket anyway. Those that despise him won't be tuning in to hear his recommendation.

TigerswillbeTigers
09-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Bruddah, you can't call him that anymore. A certain "decent" poster from NE Ohio takes acception to calling the VP by his first name.

So back off!

CarlE
09-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Really? Dang I missed it. Who is the holier-than-thou poster that says we can't call him The Dick???

bs.gunn
09-04-2008, 04:41 PM
I'm voting Obama not because I am a democrat but because I like the guy and think he's good for our country. I know a lot of people who feel that way. But as they say like and like run together

CarlE
09-04-2008, 04:42 PM
I'm voting Obama not because I am a democrat but because I like the guy and think he's good for our country. I know a lot of people who feel that way. But as they say like and like run together

He's an Affirmative Action elitist and you're a.....a.....a.....well a SOMETHING elitist. THAT'S why you are voting for him!!