Sarah Palin's teenage daughter is pregnant...

[pnthrfan]

Palin's Teenage Daughter is Pregnant
by Associated Press
Monday, September 1, 2008


Sarah and Todd Palin say their 17-year-old unmarried daughter is pregnant.The couple said in a statement released by John McCain’s presidential campaign that Bristol will keep her baby.

Sarah Palin is McCain’s vice presidential running mate.

The Alaska governor says Bristol intends to marry the father of her child.

She and the campaign also are asking that the media respect the family’s privacy

[Paul Brown]

Well what else is there to do in Alaska? :)
This doesn't sound very conservative to me. We all know it's only the hell bound Democrats that would engage in premarital sex.

[pnthrfan]

Do you think they were trying to hide something? if so...why?

http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/photoessay_4986_images/0901081302_M_090108_palinfamily.jpg

[Obie Wan]

So what?

[TigerswillbeTigers]

So what? Lol
Is that the exact same response you would have if this was Joe Biden or Barack Obamas 17 year old daughter? Not a chance so don't even try!
It's embarrassing to think that John McCain, Cindy McCain, all of the republican strategists, all of the losers on the "fair and balanced" news channel, Rush, Laura, Hannity, and the rest have bragged about how Sarah Palin is Pro-Life and not only made the choice to give berth to a child with Down syndrome, but praised her for deciding to raise the child. Ummm, are these some of the same folks that choreographed the family photo on the stage with Bristol spending the entire time holding a big ass blanket and a baby in front of her? YUP! Why? Why would the party of "honesty", "Integrity", "Judgement", "Morality", CHRISTIAN VALUES" and the rest of the bull spit do this to this poor young woman? What a freaking travesty to treat this 17 year old, soon to be mother with so much disrespect, in the name of POLITICS! This is dispicable!
I bet Bristol and her husband would vote for Obama/Biden if they were old enough! Lol

But, "so what"?
OOPS! These are some of these same people that were crying last week about the democratic party "choreographing" the Obama and Biden families presence on the stage at the convention! ROTFLMAO!
Pots meet kettles!

[pnthrfan]

So what? You would feel that way, because it is your party this is happening to. Now all we are going to hear is " this shows that Sarah Palin and her family are human" This is something the average American can relate to, and has nothing to do with how she can do her job.

Please....if this were a Democrat this happened to, you would be the first one to say how the girl, and her mother and father are all lacking in morals. This would have never happened in a Christian Conservative household. Well, it did....now, not only will Sarah Palin have her own 5 children....(one being a down syndrome baby with special needs) , but she will also have her daughter's baby to have to take care of. All of this while being the Vice President of The United States of America?

[Obie Wan]

No, I'd still say nothing. This pathological obsession with the personal affairs of a teenage girl is reprehensible and disgusting. The heat of your political passion does not excuse you from adhering to standards of responsible discourse. Your intense dislike for Palin's politics does not allow you to disregard your obligation for reasonable conduct.

The black heart that beats within your chest would repulse a man with any moral fiber. That you so freely drag this girl into the gutter with you is a damning indictment of yours.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

pnthrfan stop!
It doesn't do anyone any good to question whether or not this "executive experienced", pro-life, gun toten, moose stew loving, POT smoking (but she didn't enjoy it) woman can balance raising 5 children (one with Down syndrome), continue to help her husband run his commercial fishing business, assist her 17 year old daughter with the raising of her first grandchild, and face the challenge of an abuse of power investigation by her own state, is qualified to be one heart beat away from being the leader of the United States of America!
Stop it, stop it now!
You know good and god darn well that if this was the EXACT same situation in the democratic party not one of these McCain/Palin supporters would be suggesting anything of the sort! Because not only are they smarter then the democrats and independents, but they're nicer!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Those were some BIG, and very impressive words Obie Wan! What's more disgusting and embarrassing then your allegations is the fact that you support the despicable conduct of the McCain campaign and all of the cronies for making this poor child walk around all day with a BIG ASS blanket and a child in front of her stomach.....for pure POLITICAL REASONS!
Deny that and you'll solidify not only my opinion of you, but everyone else's that realizes you're nothing but a fraud!

Your little buddy ought to be along any minute now to help you! Lol

[werperry]

No, I'd still say nothing. This pathological obsession with the personal affairs of a teenage girl is reprehensible and disgusting.

:iagree:

[fellowship]

As the mother of an adopted daughter I have the greatest respect for her decision to have the baby

[pnthrfan]

As the mother of an adopted daughter I have the greatest respect for her decision to have the baby

As do I.

[Paul Brown]

As do I.

As a guy in his twenties, I have respect for her daughter cuz she apparently isn't a prude :)

[pnthrfan]

No, I'd still say nothing.
No, you would say something, and most would need a thesaurus to try to understand your drivel.

The black heart that beats within your chest would repulse a man with any moral fiber. That you so freely drag this girl into the gutter with you is a damning indictment of yours.

Black heart huh? Nah. My heart is of a healthy pink and red hue....thanks though. You say "freely drag this girl into the gutter" Show me where I did that. I merely made a few statements about what will be heard from your counterparts and also the fact that it is going to be hard enough for Sarah Palin to raise her own 5 children , plus a Grandchild while being Vice Presdient of The United States Of America. Do you not agree with that?

Oh yeah.....I have been married for 19 YEARS , with two wonderful children. My husband , kids, and myself are not lacking in morals. We go to Church, and make our boys our top priority. We are very happy.....Thanks for being so concerned with our morality...I appreciate it!!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I'm just trying to remember what position a certain poster on here took with regards to Brian Gambles situation, and how he imposed his thoughts on that young couple! Hmmm!

BTW! I'm just glad that Hillary was blessed with solid christian values and the courage to give berth to Chelsea, rather than act selfishly and abort the pregnancy while climbing the political ladder!

And some of yOW think the republicans are the only ones with christian values and good judgement!

[CarlE]

Bruddah:

Did you REALLY say "moose-stew loving, pot-smoking....." God, it is GREAT to have you back on here posting. That was freaking HILARIOUS.

For the record, I AM for the Republican ticket at this point so don't think I'm validating TwbT's political reflection. It was just dang funny.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Uh huh, I did say that!
Although she was honest enough to admit that she inhaled but didn't like it, it still says something about her judgement. It might have been a sign of desperation and reaching out for attention because of Todds DUI! Just thinking out loud, like several others on here like to do.

BTW! Perhaps someWan can find the birth dates of Bristol Palin and the baby's daddy. Mysteriously Bristols biography shows a (c1991) date of birth everywhere you look on the "internets" (George W. Bush calls it that) and there's no mention of who the proud soon to be poppa and husband is.
The ONLY reason I mention this is because the Alaskan statutory rape laws say that if a person who is at least 18 years old engaged in sexual activity with a person who is 16 years old or younger, he or she will be charged with sexual abuse of a minor in the first degree. This charge is a felony in Alaska.

Now I would hope that someWan or some other "fact" finder could come up with these answers, and put them in simple language for all to read. The reason being, I'm concerned that Mr and Mrs Palin might just be "shotgunning" their daughter into marrying a felon! If true, you would seriously have to question Sarah Palins judgement!

[CATS44]

Spiro Palin's daughter is PG?

Big Whoop.

Now, if it happened while Spiro was on her vacation to Ireland (at taxpayer expense), it might be a bigger deal.

[shortbev]

people are un-freaking- believable!!! how would any one of you like someone saying the things that are being said about this young woman about one of your daughters???...


those who are running for office can take the high road on this matter, as Obama says he is going to do...idiots are going to do the ripping job for him...
for shame!!!


LET ME GIVE Y'ALL A REALITY CHECK HERE!!! KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE SEX IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO...NO MATTER HOW GOOD A KID THEY ARE...NO MATTER HOW GOOD A JOB A PARENT MAY TRY TO DO...unless you handcuff them to you 24/7 (and even then, you have to go to sleep sometime)

my mom's message to me my entire growing up was to wait for marriage... our family was in church every sunday without fail

met my late husband during my senior year...
he was 20 and i was just 17
had his class ring after 10 days,
said yes to marrying him on day 12...
formally got engaged a week before graduation...
the wedding was planned, first for the following june and then moved up to december...
my mom having a cow about how young we were and how fast we were moving in our relationship...she was always around...i could barely sneeze without my mother knowing about it...or turn around without her being there...and i still manage to end up getting pregnant before we got married (not that i am bragging...just trying to make a point here...) he was the first, and only guy i ever slept with. i had always planned to wait...but, what can i say, he blew in my ear and that was it:upside:

I WAS IN LOVE!!! as i look back now, i was in love with the idea of being in love...good thing he caught me when i was so young and dumb...if i knew then, what i know now...it probably wouldn't have happened...but, then again...he was a terrific kisser and hugger, and he had a big heart...

i even was very open with my children about wishing i had waited because of certain doubts in my heart (Satan was good at whispering in my ear that the only reason my husband had married me was because i was pregnant...insecurities of being really young back then)...i was open with them about boys having just as much responsibility for controlling the situations they get themselves into as the girl (why should it be all up to her to say NO)...was even open with them about the temptations i faced as being a single adult after their daddy died...and tried to set a proper example for them...and i still became a grandmother before i was a mother-in-law...

when kids are young and the hormones are what is driving them...it happens...and they always think "i won't get pregnant"...especially if it is just once..."surely, it can't happen to me on the first time"...

where i would feel less about the situation would be if the daughter had had an abortion, and they hid the fact...instead, she has chosen life...and seems to have the love and support of her parents...and the young man involved...

so, i have two things to say to anyone here

"there for the grace of God, goes anyone of us...as parents..."
"those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones"

[warren1st]

I'm really surprised and disappointed by a few of my so-called "friends" on this thread. You should take a lesson from Barack Obama:

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080901/POLITICS01/809010397/-1/rss

Let those who've never sinned cast the first stone. Do you enjoy trying to ruin the life of a 17 year old girl who made a mistake?

Possibly this was a better world before the advent of the internet!

[Indiana95]

So what?

It tells me that this Vice-President can't even influence her own daughter "to abide by her Christian values". How in the heck is she going to influence powerful senators and be effective on the world stage! Sad!

[Indiana95]

:iagree:

Of course you do. One of your own is being attacked. How hypocritcal!

[Indiana95]

people are un-freaking- believable!!! how would any one of you like someone saying the things that are being said about this young woman about one of your daughters???...


those who are running for office can take the high road on this matter, as Obama says he is going to do...idiots are going to do the ripping job for him...
for shame!!!


LET ME GIVE Y'ALL A REALITY CHECK HERE!!! KIDS ARE GOING TO HAVE SEX IF THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO...NO MATTER HOW GOOD A KID THEY ARE...NO MATTER HOW GOOD A JOB A PARENT MAY TRY TO DO...unless you handcuff them to you 24/7 (and even then, you have to go to sleep sometime)

my mom's message to me my entire growing up was to wait for marriage... our family was in church every sunday without fail

met my late husband during my senior year...
he was 20 and i was just 17
had his class ring after 10 days,
said yes to marrying him on day 12...
formally got engaged a week before graduation...
the wedding was planned, first for the following june and then moved up to december...
my mom having a cow about how young we were and how fast we were moving in our relationship...she was always around...i could barely sneeze without my mother knowing about it...or turn around without her being there...and i still manage to end up getting pregnant before we got married (not that i am bragging...just trying to make a point here...) he was the first, and only guy i ever slept with. i had always planned to wait...but, what can i say, he blew in my ear and that was it:upside:

I WAS IN LOVE!!! as i look back now, i was in love with the idea of being in love...good thing he caught me when i was so young and dumb...if i knew then, what i know now...it probably wouldn't have happened...but, then again...he was a terrific kisser and hugger, and he had a big heart...

i even was very open with my children about wishing i had waited because of certain doubts in my heart (Satan was good at whispering in my ear that the only reason my husband had married me was because i was pregnant...insecurities of being really young back then)...i was open with them about boys having just as much responsibility for controlling the situations they get themselves into as the girl (why should it be all up to her to say NO)...was even open with them about the temptations i faced as being a single adult after their daddy died...and tried to set a proper example for them...and i still became a grandmother before i was a mother-in-law...

when kids are young and the hormones are what is driving them...it happens...and they always think "i won't get pregnant"...especially if it is just once..."surely, it can't happen to me on the first time"...

where i would feel less about the situation would be if the daughter had had an abortion, and they hid the fact...instead, she has chosen life...and seems to have the love and support of her parents...and the young man involved...

so, i have two things to say to anyone here

"there for the grace of God, goes anyone of us...as parents..."
"those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones"


Woop Dee Doo! I still blame parents for the bad decisions that children make.....it is a reflection on them.

[shortbev]

Those were some BIG, and very impressive words Obie Wan! What's more disgusting and embarrassing then your allegations is the fact that you support the despicable conduct of the McCain campaign and all of the cronies for making this poor child walk around all day with a BIG ASS blanket and a child in front of her stomach.....for pure POLITICAL REASONS!
Deny that and you'll solidify not only my opinion of you, but everyone else's that realizes you're nothing but a fraud!

Your little buddy ought to be along any minute now to help you! Lol

and how do you know it wasn't an attempt to give the girl her privacy??? having been a teenage girl, i can tell you that i didn't want everyone to know everything about my business...even after getting married...i still wasn't the one who told my mother-in-law that i was pregnant (she basically guessed and asked my mom)...and she was one of the sweetest people on earth...i know i wouldn't go broadcasting it to the entire world my first time in public like that...i know that i had no intention to even tell my own mom, if i could have gotten away with it until after the wedding...(i just happened to pass out and got taken to the hospital where the doctor proceeded to inform her of my pregnancy)...would any teen girl want to be front and center about something so very personal??? don't think so...and if she had, you all would be on here calling her a brazen hussy...

[shortbev]

Woop Dee Doo! I still blame parents for the bad decisions that children make.....it is a reflection on them.

indiana...how old are you, may i ask??? and have you lead a blameless life??? have you ever drank??? smoked?? done drugs??? ran a red light??? had sex with a woman you aren't married to??? if you have done any of these, what does that say about your parents??? that they raised a morally bankrupt child??? or just a person who made some dumb choices??? that they were bad parents??? i think that would be totally unfair to your parents...

every parent tries their very best to raise their children to be thoughtful, loving smart human beings...fact is...sometimes, they just go brain dead when making certain decisions of life

[CarlE]

It tells me that this Vice-President can't even influence her own daughter "to abide by her Christian values". How in the heck is she going to influence powerful senators and be effective on the world stage! Sad!

Of course, because ALL kids this age listen to their parents, right? And this is the first Christian-valued person to have a daughter get pregnant, right? :rolleyes:

How ignorant. By the way, do you have children? Just curious.

[shortbev]

oh, by the way, billy graham's son, franklin was a little hellion back in his teens and early 20s...what does that say about billy graham and his wife???

[pnthrfan]

My question is, why cover her up? Her family seems to be very supportive of the situation.
I feel as though if it would have come out ealier, and they didn't try and "cover" it up, there wouldn't be as much backlash as there has been. It came out that McCain knew about it over a week ago, and supposedly wasn't worried about it, so why not get it out in the open, and deal with it, instead of trying to keep it a secret?

[werperry]

Of course you do. One of your own is being attacked. How hypocritcal!

NO...

ONE of my own ISN'T a teen girl.

[werperry]

It tells me that this Vice-President can't even influence her own daughter "to abide by her Christian values". How in the heck is she going to influence powerful senators and be effective on the world stage! Sad!

I'm sorry if this comes off as an insult... but...

How stupid is that comment?

I don't care if you're Jesus Christ's kid - a teenager will STILL do what he or she pleases. It's part of growing up. You make mistakes... you grow... you learn. All you can do as a parent... is teach the lessons. It's up to the KID to make the correct decisions.

[shortbev]

speaking of Jesus Christ...can you imagine what Mary's parents thought when they were told that Jesus was on his way???

[TigerswillbeTigers]

And if it was Barack Obama or Joe Bidens daughter every single one of you would be attacking them and the democratic party for "CHOREOGRAPHING" the show on stage, and "MAKING" her do the exact same thing with the blankie and the baby!
History proves it!

[howard roark]

Palin's Teenage Daughter is Pregnant
by Associated Press
Monday, September 1, 2008


Sarah and Todd Palin say their 17-year-old unmarried daughter is pregnant.The couple said in a statement released by John McCain’s presidential campaign that Bristol will keep her baby.

Sarah Palin is McCain’s vice presidential running mate.

The Alaska governor says Bristol intends to marry the father of her child.

She and the campaign also are asking that the media respect the family’s privacy

BFD. What impact does this have on the many issues our next president faces? Tell me what affect this baby will have on policy issues regardless of who gets in?

[Obie Wan]

Let's do a little gestational mathematics here:
- Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961. His parents were married on February 2, 1961. That seems to indicate that his mother -- like Bristol Palin -- was pregnant before marriage.
- It gets better: His mother was born on November 29, 1942. She turned 18 on November 29, 1960. 9 months later is the end of August, 1961. Barack Obama was born on August 4. Assuming a normal pregnancy, that seems to indicate that his mother -- like Bristol Palin -- was pregnant at 17.

I look forward to the upcoming excoriation of Obama's mother.

[pnthrfan]

BFD. What impact does this have on the many issues our next president faces? Tell me what affect this baby will have on policy issues regardless of who gets in?

I started this thread because the teenager that is pregnant is the daughter of the candidate for Vice President. I thought it was interesting since we had been discussing Sarah Palin in two other threads.

Did you know that our Govt. will NOT fund sex education in schools. It will fund abstinence- only classes ,which aren't working very well.

The Washington Post reports:

A long-awaited national study has concluded that abstinence-only sex education, a cornerstone of the Bush administration's social agenda, does not keep teenagers from having sex. Neither does it increase or decrease the likelihood that if they do have sex, they will use a condom.

The Feds spend $176 million per year on the failed program. Harry Wilson, a top official in the Department of Health and Human Services, told the Post that $176 million:

"is not that much money when it comes to offering an alternative to the other message."

Not that much money? After all, the money is really just symbolic and needn't actually accomplish anything, just so long as it garners votes from religious conservatives.

So, you see, they know it's not working. If having sex education is schools stops one unwanted teen pregnancy, don't you think it would be worth it?

[pnthrfan]

Let's do a little gestational mathematics here:
- Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961. His parents were married on February 2, 1961. That seems to indicate that his mother -- like Bristol Palin -- was pregnant before marriage.
- It gets better: His mother was born on November 29, 1942. She turned 18 on November 29, 1960. 9 months later is the end of August, 1961. Barack Obama was born on August 4. Assuming a normal pregnancy, that seems to indicate that his mother -- like Bristol Palin -- was pregnant at 17.

I look forward to the upcoming excoriation of Obama's mother.


And......they did the right thing, which is get married. Just like Bristol Palin is going to do. So, what's your point?

[tigergirl]

- Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961. His parents were married on February 2, 1961. That seems to indicate that his mother -- like Bristol Palin -- was pregnant before marriage.

That's no big secret... Obama has stated that he is a product of a teenage mother.

*Im not sure yet who Im voting for so Im just sayin...*

[CarlE]

And......they did the right thing, which is get married. Just like Bristol Palin is going to do. So, what's your point?

The same point of yours by bringing this web-lynching thread up about this girl in the first place. Now, let's all go start the web-lynching of The Virgin Mary, OK? Oh, and B. Hussein Obama's mother too. Geez Louise.

[Paul Brown]

I don't believe Baracks mother was a conservative, right-wing vice presidential candidate who preached about abstinence only education either.... but I could be wrong I guess?

[pnthrfan]

The same point of yours by bringing this web-lynching thread up about this girl in the first place. Now, let's all go start the web-lynching of The Virgin Mary, OK? Oh, and B. Hussein Obama's mother too. Geez Louise.

Geeeesh! Sooooory, I brought this up. I thought it was interesting seeing that the Vice Presidential candidate came out and admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. You can't tell me you wouldn't have posted a thread if it was Obama's teenage daughter or Biden's, that was pregnant. That is the sole reason I posted it. Talk about hypocricy. :notlistening:

[CarlE]

Geeeesh! Sooooory, I brought this up. I thought it was interesting seeing that the Vice Presidential candidate came out and admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. You can't tell me you wouldn't have posted a thread if it was Obama's teenage daughter or Biden's, that was pregnant. That is the sole reason I posted it. Talk about hypocricy. :notlistening:

Actually, I don't think I would have. It has nothing to do with what I think about their politics. By the way, the more that comes out about this the more non-story it becomes. It seems that this crack-jack, liberal-press that you people freaking drool over didn't really do their jobs this time. Apparently this has been pretty well-known by Alaska, oh AND the McCain people for awhile. The fact that didn't release it just pisses everyone off.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

To Baracks credit he's never ran from the fact that his mother was pregnant prior to marrying, and that she was 18 years old when he was born. He's also said this is not an issue. Which I agree with completely!

However, I think it is an ISSUE when the decision is made by SOMEONE OTHER THAN BRISTOL to conceal her bump with a big ass blanket and make her carry around the baby the entire time FOR PURELY POLITICAL REASONS.

That's what's disgusting, not the fact that Bristol is pregnant, un-wed, and only 17! That happens all the time, and in most cases is celebrated after the shock of learning about it fades!

I can assure you this. If I had a 17 year old un-wed daughter that became pregnant, and she was showing (as in Bristols case), and my wife or myself was involved in a photo op for any reason at all, NOBODY could tell my daughter to cover up the bump, and her mother and I would NEVER be so selfish as to ask her to do so! Also, I defy you to find ONE woman in your own family that would allow someone to force your daughter to hide "the family shame"!

Last but not least, Sarah Palin chose to use Hillary's quote regarding 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling attempting to appeal to the woman vote, at the EXACT SAME TIME HER DAUGHTER WAS BEING FORCED TO DO SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE CEASED MANY YEARS AGO! I can tell you that this is the reason every woman I've talked to the past two days is upset about this situation. They say the SHAME is covering it up, not just for political reasons, but for ANY reason, and it's nothing short of dispicable and reminds women all over the country of how things "USED TO BE"!

[CarlE]

I hate to rain on the parade of the unenlightened but the story is coming out this morning and over the weekend that this is apparently no big secret and the people of Alaska have known about it for awhile. Why mainstream media didn't is anybody's guess. Oh yeah I know why. 'Cause the old man hoodwinked them and totally blind-sided all their speculation.

Honestly this is no big deal. The Presidency should not be decided by the fact that his VP has a daughter that is pregnant. Believe me, we have WAY bigger issues than that.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

What the heck are you trying to say :upside:

[Indiana95]

By the way, do you have children? Just curious.

Yes, two.

[CarlE]

Yes, two.

Thank you.

[CarlE]

What the heck are you trying to say :upside:

Um, only that you need to get your conspiratorial mind back to reality. EVERYONE KNEW ABOUT IT. NOBODY WAS HIDING ANYTHING.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

So you're trying to say that NOBODY was trying to hide the BUMP? Are you freakin serious?
Have you ever, in your entire life, seen a girl hold a blanket that looks like it came from the hotels king sized bed, spread out in front of her, and akwardly dangle a baby, that isn't even wrapped in the blanket, like she's affraid the baby will spit up on her pretty dress, because she wants to?
You can't be serious!
You know as well as I do that entire stage scene was CHOREOGRAPHED just like you said the DNC did with regards to the Obama and Biden families in Denver. Shame on you CarlE!

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Now I'll "one up you" Bruddah!

It's also being reported that YES, John McMaverick was aware of Bristols pregnancy prior to the announcement. However, he didn't fully disclose that little nugget to those that he was fighting with during his pissing match over wanting Joe Lieberman on the ticket. So how is it that ALASKA new it, but not everyone "in the know" with the republican party didn't? Sounds like they were with the "liberal" media on vacation instead of vetting a possible VP!

[CarlE]

Now I'll "one up you" Bruddah!

It's also being reported that YES, John McMaverick was aware of Bristols pregnancy prior to the announcement. However, he didn't fully disclose that little nugget to those that he was fighting with during his pissing match over wanting Joe Lieberman on the ticket. So how is it that ALASKA new it, but not everyone "in the know" with the republican party didn't? Sounds like they were with the "liberal" media on vacation instead of vetting a possible VP!

I didn't say he had all geniuses on his staff, my friend. LOL

[Paul Brown]

I didn't say he had all geniuses on his staff, my friend. LOL

A man is known by the company he keeps.

[CarlE]

A man is known by the company he keeps.

WOW. Did you just make that up? Because man oh man I KNOW that is now the number one mantra as I move forward to making my voting decision.:rolleyes:

[pnthrfan]

The poor girl was sweating to death with that big blanket on her. She was uncomfortable the entire time. She might as well have been wearing a coat for God's sake. There was more shame in the apparent cover-up , then shame in the pregnancy. What I want to know is , were they planning on making that blanket part of her wardrobe for the next couple of months until the election was over?

[Paul Brown]

WOW. Did you just make that up? Because man oh man I KNOW that is now the number one mantra as I move forward to making my voting decision.:rolleyes:

I don't know. You'd think you'd want a president who did surround himself with geniuses on his staff.

[howard roark]

To Baracks credit he's never ran from the fact that his mother was pregnant prior to marrying, and that she was 18 years old when he was born. He's also said this is not an issue. Which I agree with completely!

However, I think it is an ISSUE when the decision is made by SOMEONE OTHER THAN BRISTOL to conceal her bump with a big ass blanket and make her carry around the baby the entire time FOR PURELY POLITICAL REASONS.

That's what's disgusting, not the fact that Bristol is pregnant, un-wed, and only 17! That happens all the time, and in most cases is celebrated after the shock of learning about it fades!

I can assure you this. If I had a 17 year old un-wed daughter that became pregnant, and she was showing (as in Bristols case), and my wife or myself was involved in a photo op for any reason at all, NOBODY could tell my daughter to cover up the bump, and her mother and I would NEVER be so selfish as to ask her to do so! Also, I defy you to find ONE woman in your own family that would allow someone to force your daughter to hide "the family shame"!

Last but not least, Sarah Palin chose to use Hillary's quote regarding 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling attempting to appeal to the woman vote, at the EXACT SAME TIME HER DAUGHTER WAS BEING FORCED TO DO SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAVE CEASED MANY YEARS AGO! I can tell you that this is the reason every woman I've talked to the past two days is upset about this situation. They say the SHAME is covering it up, not just for political reasons, but for ANY reason, and it's nothing short of dispicable and reminds women all over the country of how things "USED TO BE"!

On this point, I agree with you that this maybe hypocritical on the Republican side.

Again, I beleive it is a non issue ( the pregnancy) ; If a cover up was fabricated - that is the issue.

[savage4president]

I'll do my best to sum up this entire sorry election season.

Blah blah, blah blah blah blah Blahhh, blah blah blah is a Muslim and will be sworn in on the Koran and not the Bible.

Blah blah, blah blah blah blah Blahh, blah blah blah's daughter is a slut and thus she is a horrible choice as VP.

Blah blah, blah blah blah blah Blahhh, is freaking old

Blah blah, blah blah blah blah Blahhh, is a plagarizer

Blah blah, blah blah, blah, blah, blah blah blah blah blah gas is expensive.

RE-FING-DICULOUS

[warren1st]

I'll say again, "It's really a sad commentary on the American people that we've come to this - trying to destroy the life of a young girl who made a mistake.

I guess the days of talking about issues and policies are finished.

May God help us."

[TigerswillbeTigers]

w1st!
Perhaps you're just not looking hard enough. I see plenty of discussions about issues and policies on here.
I submit that the truly "sad commentary" is that a beautiful young girl wasn't given the benefit of personal freedom on the same stage that her mother was talking about 18 million cracks in a glass ceiling being shattered for "all" women!
Like I said before, it was obvious to all that the hiding of her pregnancy was "choreographed" by others to either "conceal the families shame", or for purely "political" reasons. That sir, is a "sad commentary" in 2008!

[shortbev]

did anyone read my earlier posting about maybe it was her choice because she didn't want strangers passing judgment on her, just as so many on here have done??? may be as simple as that...

God gives us nine months of pregnancy for various reasons...sometimes, i think beyond development time...sometimes, i think it is to give those involved time to adjust and move to looking forward to that little person's birth...babies do have a way of taking people by surprise...they may start out not seeming like a blessing...and given time, one comes to wonder what would you do without them in your life...

a conspiracy behind every bush (or blanket) or word spoken is how politics works today...i guess...

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I agree with you totally Bev, and have said so previously!
However, are you saying that it's not possible that Bristol would have rather stood proudly on the stage without a blanket covering her up, and a baby in her arms? Do you truly believe that NOBODY in the McCain campaign, or Republican party would have suggested this cover-up on the day of her mothers selection?
If you're right, and this was Bristol's choice, due to fears that "strangers" would "pass judgement" on her, what does that tell us about this poor childs mental status?
I mean, nobody introduced her to the completely Republican friendly audience that was bussed into Dayton due to the lack of interest by locals, nobody mentioned that Ms. Palin was about to become a grandmother (a very compelling story on the surface), and there was no mention of this childs father, Bristol's future husband, and the future son-in-law of perhaps the next VP of the USA!
I submit that "if" there was NO attempted cover-up, then the family and the McCain campaign would have embraced the situation and even had the father there with his future wife if for no other reason, to support Bristol!
If that had been done, this entire situation would be completely different. It would have said to all Americans that not only is the Palin family an average American family that faces many of the same challenges of millions of american families, but it also show's that we've embraced our daughter and future son-in-laws miracle by not hiding what history has referred to as "the family shame"!
Just my thoughts Bev!

[dataintsmiff]

So what? Lol
Is that the exact same response you would have if this was Joe Biden or Barack Obamas 17 year old daughter? Not a chance so don't even try!
It's embarrassing to think that John McCain, Cindy McCain, all of the republican strategists, all of the losers on the "fair and balanced" news channel, Rush, Laura, Hannity, and the rest have bragged about how Sarah Palin is Pro-Life and not only made the choice to give berth to a child with Down syndrome, but praised her for deciding to raise the child. Ummm, are these some of the same folks that choreographed the family photo on the stage with Bristol spending the entire time holding a big ass blanket and a baby in front of her? YUP! Why? Why would the party of "honesty", "Integrity", "Judgement", "Morality", CHRISTIAN VALUES" and the rest of the bull spit do this to this poor young woman? What a freaking travesty to treat this 17 year old, soon to be mother with so much disrespect, in the name of POLITICS! This is dispicable!
I bet Bristol and her husband would vote for Obama/Biden if they were old enough! Lol

But, "so what"?
OOPS! These are some of these same people that were crying last week about the democratic party "choreographing" the Obama and Biden families presence on the stage at the convention! ROTFLMAO!
Pots meet kettles!

blah blah blah. Are you related to BS Gunn by any chance?

[warren1st]

w1st!
Perhaps you're just not looking hard enough. I see plenty of discussions about issues and policies on here.
I submit that the truly "sad commentary" is that a beautiful young girl wasn't given the benefit of personal freedom on the same stage that her mother was talking about 18 million cracks in a glass ceiling being shattered for "all" women!
Like I said before, it was obvious to all that the hiding of her pregnancy was "choreographed" by others to either "conceal the families shame", or for purely "political" reasons. That sir, is a "sad commentary" in 2008!


As Peggy Noonan wrote in the WSJ, if birth didn't begin at conception why do they sell condoms? Think about it.

I believe the whole family has "pro-life" beliefs so why don't you lay off?

[TigerswillbeTigers]

dataintstiff! Did my last paragraph touch a nerve with you personally? Are you one of them?
My answer to your question is No!
But since you asked, blah, blah, blah, are you related to Sarah Palin?
I bet you're a huntin, fishin, rootin, tootin cowboy! Ain't ya?

[TigerswillbeTigers]

w1st!
What in the referred to post makes you believe that I implied the whole family doesn't have "pro-life beliefs", and what does that have to do with anything else in the post?

Your question regarding being a lib once again proves how poorly you read and comprehend what people say. Just because I wont sell my soul to the devil and act like the Palin pick is the greatest selection in the history of politics. Lie about how comfortable I am with her ability to step in and be the Commander in Chief, and continue to lie after knowing that McMaverick had met her for all of 15 minutes prior to offering the job, doesn't mean I'm a liberal! It simply means I'm not a "mark" for the Republican party that will say one thing, while believing another!

All good?

[dataintsmiff]

dataintstiff! Did my last paragraph touch a nerve with you personally? Are you one of them?
My answer to your question is No!
But since you asked, blah, blah, blah, are you related to Sarah Palin?
I bet you're a huntin, fishin, rootin, tootin cowboy! Ain't ya?

Never mind, way too easy!:sunny:

[TigerswillbeTigers]

:trophy:

[TigerswillbeTigers]

warren1st!
I believe I've just discovered what you may have been referencing in that post.
If you took my comment about "personal freedom" to mean have an abortion, that definately wasn't my point. It was that at the same time her mother was mentioning 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling, her daughter evidently didn't enjoy the "personal freedom" to stand on the stage without the blanket and the baby!
If she made that choice, so be it. If others made it for her, then shame on them, including her parents for not resisting it if it happened!

[dataintsmiff]

warren1st!
I believe I've just discovered what you may have been referencing in that post.
If you took my comment about "personal freedom" to mean have an abortion, that definately wasn't my point. It was that at the same time her mother was mentioning 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling, her daughter evidently didn't enjoy the "personal freedom" to stand on the stage without the blanket and the baby!
If she made that choice, so be it. If others made it for her, then shame on them, including her parents for not resisting it if it happened!

Well said. You're smarter than you look! LOL!!!:rockon:

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Bristols future husband (Levi Johnston) is now with her, and will be during the convention. I applaud the GOP and Palin family for making this happen, albeit a little too late in my opinion, but I applaud it anyway!
Also, I found Levi's My space bio interesting, prior to it being yanked off the internets (Dubya calls it that, and I love it. And lets give Al Gore credit for inventing it). Levi says, I'm a redneck, I play hockey, I'm in a relationship, I don't want kids, and if you #uck with me I'll jick your @ss! Lol
Got love this guy! :thumbsup:

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Here's the complete quote in his bio.
I'm a f---in redneck who likes to snow-board and ride dirt bikes. But I live to play hockey. I like to go camping and hang out with the boys, do some fishing, shoot some sh-t, and just f---in "chillin" I guess. Ya f--k with me I'll kick you ass. I'm in a relationship, and I don't want kids.

Again, ya gotta love him, and wish he and Bristol the best!

[warren1st]

w1st!
What in the referred to post makes you believe that I implied the whole family doesn't have "pro-life beliefs", and what does that have to do with anything else in the post?

Your question regarding being a lib once again proves how poorly you read and comprehend what people say. Just because I wont sell my soul to the devil and act like the Palin pick is the greatest selection in the history of politics. Lie about how comfortable I am with her ability to step in and be the Commander in Chief, and continue to lie after knowing that McMaverick had met her for all of 15 minutes prior to offering the job, doesn't mean I'm a liberal! It simply means I'm not a "mark" for the Republican party that will say one thing, while believing another!
When did you become such a lib?

BTW! It sounds like you're promoting teen sex rather than abstinence! When did you change your opinion on this?

Hey, if I comprehend and read so poorly, how did I graduate 1st in my class in college??

[Paul Brown]

Hey, if I comprehend and read so poorly, how did I graduate 1st in my class in college??

B/c you went to UM? That's like being the smartest LD kid.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Sometimes you make responding way to easy! Lol
I'll take the high road and completely avoid mentioning the school you're referencing. Good luck with CarlE and the rest of the class clowns! Lol

[TigerswillbeTigers]

LOL! I knew I would be too late!

[Indiana95]

Hey, if I comprehend and read so poorly, how did I graduate 1st in my class in college??

That's true! You can spell genius! :laughing:

[caseybaby]

Ok where is the write in ballots i am writing in my westie...at least he is fix and can not have any puppies

[Indiana95]

Is this Bristol's second pregancy?

Palin claims to be the mother of five children, the youngest of whom was diagnosed with Down Syndrome. Her decision to have the baby was applauded by the pro-life community.

Here’s some new evidence brought forward, showing Sarah Palin is not the mother of four-month-old Trig:

– On March 6th, Sarah announced she’s seven month pregnant. Even close members of her staff were surprised.

– Her water broke one month before Trig was due, but she kept a previous speaking engagement in Texas and then flew 8 hours to Alaska. No one on board noticed that Sarah was going into labor either. The flight lands in Anchorage, Alaska. Instead of visiting a medical facility that can accommodate a premature birth in Alaska’s most equipped city, she drives 45 minutes away to Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, right outside the small village she used to govern as Mayor, Wasilla.

– On April 18, 2008, Trig was born one month premature. Sarah returned to work after three days. (Trig was diagnosed with Down syndrome while still in the womb.)

– Trig is not Sarah’s son, but grandson. It was her 16-year-old daughter Bristol who was carrying. (80% of the cases of Down Syndrome are in mothers under the age of 35.)

– Family had taken Bristol out of Anchorage High School due to contracting “infectious mononucleosis”. Reports say she was absent from school for five to eight months. Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months.

Makes you wonder!

[CarlE]

(Dubya calls it that, and I love it. And lets give Al Gore credit for inventing it). :thumbsup:

I love it as much as I love the geniuses on here (note correct spelling LOL) who call where I live St. Pete's.

[Paul Brown]

I love it as much as I love the geniuses on here (note correct spelling LOL) who call where I live St. Pete's.

It's it called St. PeterSburg or St. Peterburg?

[CarlE]

It's it called St. PeterSburg or St. Peterburg?

It's called St. Petersburg. NOT St. Petesersberg. Make sense?

[Paul Brown]

It's called St. Petersburg. NOT St. Petesersberg. Make sense?

Pete = Peter
Petes = Peters

[werperry]

Geeeesh! Sooooory, I brought this up. I thought it was interesting seeing that the Vice Presidential candidate came out and admitted that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant. You can't tell me you wouldn't have posted a thread if it was Obama's teenage daughter or Biden's, that was pregnant. That is the sole reason I posted it. Talk about hypocricy. :notlistening:

You want to talk about hypocrites. Try the media.

They've been slamming this girl and her mom ever since this came to light. Which...btw...WAS common knowledge in her hometown. Even to R E A C H and suggest that Sarah Palin's down syndrome kid was actually her daughters. Frankly, I wouldn't wish this treatment on my enemies.

What some of you don't realize is this. While you may see the hypocrisy of supporting policies 'teaching' abstinance... kids will make mistakes. You cannot help that. Only those of you who have kids truly understand that.

But, the main point comes after. YOU NEED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS. I believe Palin HAS instilled that in her family. She doesn't just SAY it.... she DOES it.


Side note: I have been scratching my head trying to figure out why the media has launched this vitriol versus Palin....when they SAT on the John Roberts story for 8 months. ...and give me a break on the excuse of "it-was-uncovered-by-the-tabloid-sun-magazine" .....the main stream media is RUNNING with unsubstantiated blog rumors about Palin. THIS IS A COMPLETE DISGRACE.

FWIW... I absolutely APPLAUD Barack Obama for distancing himself from this nonsense.

[werperry]

w1st!
Perhaps you're just not looking hard enough. I see plenty of discussions about issues and policies on here.

Yup you're right... while we are in a war, we're discussing a teenage pregnancy of a VP candidate. I fail to remember the same type of discussion regarding Gore's kids' misteps during the election of 2000.

Hell... I fail to see the further scrutiny of Obama's connection to Tony Resko. BTW... why hasn't Obama highlighted his accomplishments here in Chicago? Oh...because he didn't have any. He voted "PRESENT" about a million times.

Yes, we're talking about the "issues". :rolleyes:

[werperry]

Is this Bristol's second pregancy?

Palin claims to be the mother of five children, the youngest of whom was diagnosed with Down Syndrome. Her decision to have the baby was applauded by the pro-life community.

Here’s some new evidence brought forward, showing Sarah Palin is not the mother of four-month-old Trig:

– On March 6th, Sarah announced she’s seven month pregnant. Even close members of her staff were surprised.

– Her water broke one month before Trig was due, but she kept a previous speaking engagement in Texas and then flew 8 hours to Alaska. No one on board noticed that Sarah was going into labor either. The flight lands in Anchorage, Alaska. Instead of visiting a medical facility that can accommodate a premature birth in Alaska’s most equipped city, she drives 45 minutes away to Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, right outside the small village she used to govern as Mayor, Wasilla.

– On April 18, 2008, Trig was born one month premature. Sarah returned to work after three days. (Trig was diagnosed with Down syndrome while still in the womb.)

– Trig is not Sarah’s son, but grandson. It was her 16-year-old daughter Bristol who was carrying. (80% of the cases of Down Syndrome are in mothers under the age of 35.)

– Family had taken Bristol out of Anchorage High School due to contracting “infectious mononucleosis”. Reports say she was absent from school for five to eight months. Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months.

Makes you wonder!

Makes ME wonder about YOU. ...thanks for spreading trash. Absolutely SHAMEFUL.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/anchorage-tv-station-pali_b_123029.html

[CarlE]

Pete = Peter
Petes = Peters

I give up. Some of you freaking people are hopeless. This non-traveling for two weeks is driving me NUTS.

[pnthrfan]

I fail to remember the same type of discussion regarding Gore's kids' misteps during the election of 2000.

I believe what Al gore's son was arrested for in 2000 was reckless driving. Any other trouble he ran into happened later and his father wasn't running for any office.

[CarlE]

Is this Bristol's second pregancy?

Palin claims to be the mother of five children, the youngest of whom was diagnosed with Down Syndrome. Her decision to have the baby was applauded by the pro-life community.

Here’s some new evidence brought forward, showing Sarah Palin is not the mother of four-month-old Trig:

– On March 6th, Sarah announced she’s seven month pregnant. Even close members of her staff were surprised.

– Her water broke one month before Trig was due, but she kept a previous speaking engagement in Texas and then flew 8 hours to Alaska. No one on board noticed that Sarah was going into labor either. The flight lands in Anchorage, Alaska. Instead of visiting a medical facility that can accommodate a premature birth in Alaska’s most equipped city, she drives 45 minutes away to Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, right outside the small village she used to govern as Mayor, Wasilla.

– On April 18, 2008, Trig was born one month premature. Sarah returned to work after three days. (Trig was diagnosed with Down syndrome while still in the womb.)

– Trig is not Sarah’s son, but grandson. It was her 16-year-old daughter Bristol who was carrying. (80% of the cases of Down Syndrome are in mothers under the age of 35.)

– Family had taken Bristol out of Anchorage High School due to contracting “infectious mononucleosis”. Reports say she was absent from school for five to eight months. Mono can last anywhere from two weeks to three months.

Makes you wonder!


Honest to God, you're nothing short of pathetic now. Running with blogs. The only thing worse than you is the idiotic media that is doing the same thing. You're a real citizen you know that, Sparky?

[werperry]

I believe what Al gore's son was arrested for in 2000 was reckless driving. Any other trouble he ran into happened later and his father wasn't running for any office.

Try - Albert Gore III was speeding at 100 miles per hour and that Xanax, marijuana and other drugs were found in the hybrid vehicle.

At least his carbon footprint was low with that hybrid...

btw... i understand you point on the timing. but, Jesus... seemingly every politician has had some sort of issue with their kids...BUT NEVER was this much MISINFORMATION and OUTRIGHT LIES been spewed. No one individual deserves this... either side. Again... I applaud Obama for distancing himself from this trash.

[Paul Brown]

I give up. Some of you freaking people are hopeless. This non-traveling for two weeks is driving me NUTS.

LOL I just like being an antagonist.

[pnthrfan]

Try - Albert Gore III was speeding at 100 miles per hour and that Xanax, marijuana and other drugs were found in the hybrid vehicle.

At least his carbon footprint was low with that hybrid...

That was in 2007, and again, his Father wasn't running for office.

[werperry]

That was in 2007, and again, his Father wasn't running for office.

You may have been typing as I was editing... please reread my post.

[Indiana95]

Makes ME wonder about YOU. ...thanks for spreading trash. Absolutely SHAMEFUL.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/anchorage-tv-station-pali_b_123029.html

Yeah, because the NEOCONS haven't spread any "trash" about Obama, right? What's shameful is the double standard and hypocrisy.

[Indiana95]

Honest to God, you're nothing short of pathetic now. Running with blogs. The only thing worse than you is the idiotic media that is doing the same thing. You're a real citizen you know that, Sparky?

Sparky? LOL

[werperry]

That was in 2007, and again, his Father wasn't running for office.

OK... then how about this.

While the media scrutinizes the Rep Vice President nominee kid's.... Why doesn't the SAME media focus the SAME type of energy on the Dem PRESIDENCIAL candidate regarding Tony Resko or William Ayers?

[werperry]

Yeah, because the NEOCONS haven't spread any "trash" about Obama, right? What's shameful is the double standard and hypocrisy.

Explain to me. What trash have the spread? The associations with...Rev Wright, William Ayers, Tony Resko... or the FACT that he voted PRESENT 130 times in the Illinois state legislature.

MAN... the CHANGE we need... :thumbsup:

[Indiana95]

Explain to me. What trash have the spread? The associations with...Rev Wright, William Ayers, Tony Resko... or the FACT that he voted PRESENT 130 times in the Illinois state legislature.

MAN... the CHANGE we need... :thumbsup:

YES, we need CHANGE and YES, WE CAN!

The trash? Go see Snopes about the right wing claims my friend (Anti-Christ, Extremist Muslim, etc.). Some of that BS has been posted here, with the posters actually believing this stuff!

[werperry]

YES, we need CHANGE and YES, WE CAN!

The trash? Go see Snopes about the right wing claims my friend (Anti-Christ, Extremist Muslim, etc.). Some of that BS has been posted here, with the posters actually believing this stuff!

:doh:

Ok. Didn't you realize that Obama has 666 tatooed on the back of his head? Seriously... he does.


ARE YOU FREAKIN' SERIOUS? ABSOLUTE GARGABE INDIANA. I'm not saying there isn't wack jobs on the right... but, Jesus Mary and Joseph... why the blue-hell would you be posting wack job opinions in response. Unless you're a wack job yourself. :poke:

[Red50Go]

Explain to me. What trash have the spread? The associations with...Rev Wright, William Ayers, Tony Resko... or the FACT that he voted PRESENT 130 times in the Illinois state legislature.

MAN... the CHANGE we need... :thumbsup:

He is not a legal citizen. Closet Muslim. Racist. Wife hates America. Inexperienced - ha ha ha. I am not saying there are not far left nut jobs too but dont play the innocent victim either. You made terms like "swift boating" and "Willie Hortoned" part of the political vocabularly that is America today.

[bs.gunn]

:doh:

Ok. Didn't you realize that Obama has 666 tatooed on the back of his head? Seriously... he does.


ARE YOU FREAKIN' SERIOUS? ABSOLUTE GARGABE INDIANA. I'm not saying there isn't wack jobs on the right... but, Jesus Mary and Joseph... why the blue-hell would you be posting wack job opinions in response. Unless you're a wack job yourself. :poke:

Werperry.... take a chill pill. you and carle should just take a vaca for the next 3 months and come back after the adults set our country back on track

[CarlE]

Werperry.... take a chill pill. you and carle should just take a vaca for the next 3 months and come back after the adults set our country back on track

You and Indiana'95 I assume you mean? OK, he's pathetic. You're just laughable.