Admirers of new U-M regime get a reality check

[obie7661]

Admirers of new U-M regime get a reality check

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080831/COL22/808310502

[hartville tiger]

First of all coach rod inherited a team that had bare cupboard in other words not a lot of talent you have to give him enough time to delevop his offense with his own players michigan fans be patience this may take 3 years and I'm saying it even though I'm a michigan fan.

[Paul Brown]

First of all coach rod inherited a team that had bare cupboard in other words not a lot of talent you have to give him enough time to delevop his offense with his own players michigan fans be patience this may take 3 years and I'm saying it even though I'm a michigan fan.

Wow. Punctuation is our friend. Let's use it.

[CarlE]

First of all coach rod inherited a team that had bare cupboard in other words not a lot of talent you have to give him enough time to delevop his offense with his own players michigan fans be patience this may take 3 years and I'm saying it even though I'm a michigan fan.

Yeah, Michigan fans. Be patience. That a boy. Grammar, spelling, punctuation. Go look them up.

[Tiger2001]

Great representation.

[warren1st]

You guys really like to pile on, don't you? Fine, I'll start pointing out grammar and punctuation errors in the future.

[MTown]

That article was pretty harsh for a Detroit paper. What did everyone expect? Michigan only had one returning O-Lineman, it's best returning QB transferred and the rest are not suited to run the spread, and they are trying to learn a new system that could not be farther from traditional Michigan football.

I certainly do not like RichRod or Michigan, but this article was unfair.

[CarlE]

You guys really like to pile on, don't you? Fine, I'll start pointing out grammar and punctuation errors in the future.

Please do. If you need any help, let me know. If an OSU fan had printed something like that the piling on would have been brutal. You know, Michigan education this.....Michigan education that.....When you step into the kitchen of an OSU-friendly web-site get ready to have your head handed to you when you make not one, not two, but oh about ten mistakes in one post.

[warren1st]

Please do. If you need any help, let me know. If an OSU fan had printed something like that the piling on would have been brutal. You know, Michigan education this.....Michigan education that.....When you step into the kitchen of an OSU-friendly web-site get ready to have your head handed to you when you make not one, not two, but oh about ten mistakes in one post.

Carl - You're wrong and you know it. There are a lot of very dreadful grammar and punctuation mistakes on this and every board and it was my understanding it was to be ignored. However, I'm sure you'll do what you want.

[warren1st]

That article was pretty harsh for a Detroit paper. What did everyone expect? Michigan only had one returning O-Lineman, it's best returning QB transferred and the rest are not suited to run the spread, and they are trying to learn a new system that could not be farther from traditional Michigan football.

I certainly do not like RichRod or Michigan, but this article was unfair.

I was there and UM STUNK the joint out.

Yes, it was very unfair. I couldn't believe it. Some there still pine for LC!!

For whatever the reason the Free Press is very pro-MSU and the News is pro-Michigan. That said, this guy, I believe, was the sportswriter for the UM student newspaper, "The Michigan Daily." If you see his or any article about UM by Drew Sharp take it with a grain of salt.

[Paul Brown]

You guys really like to pile on, don't you? Fine, I'll start pointing out grammar and punctuation errors in the future.

Everyone here knows I don't discriminate on piss poor grammar. As luck would have it, he just happened to be a UM fan on this occasion.

[npaflas]

You guys really like to pile on, don't you? Fine, I'll start pointing out grammar and punctuation errors in the future.

Hey take it like a man. We did when we lose. And the future is now live with it.

[CarlE]

Hey take it like a man. We did went we lose. And the future is now live with it.


Say WHAT??? :eek2:

See, Warren1st, I don't discriminate.

[npaflas]

i was talking about the game.

[hartville tiger]

I had no idea that moderators on here were graduates from Harvard and Yale journalism school. My God! I just do this for fun. I had no idea that people on here were so picky. I just put my opinion on here , because I enjoy following the tigers.

[warren1st]

I had no idea that moderators on here were graduates from Harvard and Yale journalism school. My God! I just do this for fun. I had no idea that people on here were so picky. I just put my opinion on here , because I enjoy following the tigers.

Hartville - It's only because you're a Michigan fan.

[CarlE]

Hartville - It's only because you're a Michigan fan.

I think I've proven this to be inaccurate. :tounge:

[ReineyKicker15]

Who cares about the grammar. Does it really matter. It's a sports forum page not a research paper. Go Bucks!

[CarlE]

Who cares about the grammar. Does it really matter. It's a sports forum page not a research paper. Go Bucks!

Actually it makes a big difference to me. I don't put much credibility in a post that has numerous grammar, spelling, and/or punctuation errors. It just says a lot about the poster and the validity of their opinions.

[fyrewood]

Who cares about the grammar. Does it really matter. It's a sports forum page not a research paper. Go Bucks!

Makes a difference to me too. For me at least, when I see multiple grammar, punctuation and spelling errors, it immediately calls into question that person's level of education or intelligence. Which also reflects on my opinion of that person's knowledge of the subject they are discussing.

Really, how hard is it to take two extra seconds and use proper spelling and punctuation? People are so freakin' lazy these days.

[DAWGH8R]

I had no idea that moderators on here were graduates from Harvard and Yale journalism school. My God! I just do this for fun. I had no idea that people on here were so picky. I just put my opinion on here , because I enjoy following the tigers.

Believe me, the mods can't even spell IVY league. :heee: It's the fine users on here that are Rhodes scholar's !!:blah:




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[TigerswillbeTigers]

Love him or hate him Rich Rod will recruit speed and talent to UM. That combination along with UM's history of landing outstanding linemen on both sides of the ball, and some pretty darn good recievers, I for think he'll have a perrenial top 10 team for years to come.
That can't possibly be a bad thing for the Big 10, and I think it's a great thing for OSU! It'll present a quality "spread offense" to have to defend at the end of every year, which can only help when OSU meets the likes of UF and LSU in BCS bowls.

BTW! He already has commitments from two HS seniors that can certainly run the offense.
Tate Forcier SD, Ca.
Shavodrick Beaver Wichita, Tx.

[CarlE]

Quit sucking up to Warren1st after you lambast him on political threads!! LOL.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

Sucking up? Never, just pointing out what history tells us, and adding a bit of logic. The Big 10, and OSU in particular is going to benefit greatly from the spread offenses becoming more prevelent in their conference.

[CarlE]

Sucking up? Never, just pointing out what history tells us, and adding a bit of logic. The Big 10, and OSU in particular is going to benefit greatly from the spread offenses becoming more prevelent in their conference.


Agreed. Especially when it comes to playing in national championship games, right?

[TigerswillbeTigers]

You got it!
The teams in the Big 10 will be practicing against the spread and scouting teams that use it several times a year now. It can only help!

[DE#53]

Love him or hate him Rich Rod will recruit speed and talent to UM. That combination along with UM's history of landing outstanding linemen on both sides of the ball, and some pretty darn good recievers, I for think he'll have a perrenial top 10 team for years to come.
That can't possibly be a bad thing for the Big 10, and I think it's a great thing for OSU! It'll present a quality "spread offense" to have to defend at the end of every year, which can only help when OSU meets the likes of UF and LSU in BCS bowls.

BTW! He already has commitments from two HS seniors that can certainly run the offense.
Tate Forcier SD, Ca.
Shavodrick Beaver Wichita, Tx.

Ohio State has a QB that can run the spread too. His name is Pryor. And Tressel has already run some spread offense a few years ago. You remember Troy Smith, Gonzo, Ginn, Hall, Holmes, and company? The big ten will see the spread soon but the team that runs it the best will be O.S.U. with Pryor at the controls in 2009.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

REALLY! No, I've never heard of Troy Smith, Gonzo, Ginn, Hall, Holmes and company! Lol

Wow, I must have been in a time warp!

FYI! They didn't run the "SPREAD", they used variations of it, and I assure you Troy Smith couldn't run the "spread", which is why he was a drop back passer that relied on his scrambling ability at times to get him out of trouble in Tressels offense.

Pryor was recruited by Tressel because of his ability to run the "spread", and was promissed by Tressel that at OSU the offense he would be running would resemble the exact offense Tim Tebow runs at UF! FACT!

But to think that Pryor and OSU are going to be the only team in the Big 10 that can execute it affectively, and win the big games with it, would be naive at best.

The point MADE was that UM runs it exclusively under RR, Illinois and others in the Big 10 have implemented it into their offenses, and it can only be a good thing for the entire Big 10 conference, and more importantly OSU.
Why? Because they'll see it every year in the last game, run by talented teams, and it will help for BCS games when they play teams that also run it!

But thanks for enlightening me about Pryor and the others at OSU! I would have never known :wall:

[MTown]

You are right that Michigan will be a perennial top ten team. But I disagree with you that RichRod will get the top lineman in the country. Top lineman don't go to schools that run the spread because that type of offense does not prepare them for the jump to the NFL.

I also believe that Rodriguez is going to be Michigan's John Cooper. He's going to bring in lots of talent. He's going to win a ton of games. But the program is not going to have the reputation nationally that Michigan supporters are going to want it to have. He doesn't run a squeaky clean program. He already has gotten rid of several traditions and has shown that he really doesn't understand a lot more of them. Cooper never understood what the OSU/Michigan was all about because he never grew up with it...and it killed him. Unlike Bo, Moeller, and Carr....Rodriguez has never been around it and his comments show that he doesn't fully embrace it. He'll learn.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

IF RR doesn't get the top linemen it's his fault! Urban Meyer has been getting them every year and will continue too.
The Pouncey brothers that played at Lakeland HS in Fl. a couple of years ago when they beat X in PB stadium have started for UF last year as true freshman, and this year as sophomores. They were commited to FSU as seniors in HS and changed their minds. Both will play in the NFL if healthy, along with Trautwine, the other tackle.
UF already has landed several other top prospects on the OL and there's absolutely nothing stopping great O linemen from playing in the NFL in the future. Just watch OSU O linemen after they leave Tressels spread.

[CarlE]

DE#53. I suspect you don't want to head down this path with TwbT. He knows just a LITTLE bit about football!! LOL.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

DE53!

I forgot to mention that OSU has the "real deal" proto-type" RB for the spread coming in next year. Jaamal Berry out of Miami, Fl. has commited to OSU, and he is a legit 4.31 40 guy that at 5'11 195 can run thru you, around you, and away from you!
OSU fans are gonna love this kid if he stays healthy!

MTown! I also forgot to mention that UF has Nick Alajajian OG from Naples, Fl. coming in next year. He's the #1 rated OG, as well as #1 rated O-Lineman in the country according to several recruiting sources.
Again, if RR can't recruit some of the best OL to play at UM it's his fault!

[MTown]

I just don't think the top lineman are going to head to Michigan while they are running the spread. OSU grabbed 3 of the best in last years senior class and took away Michigan's best returning lineman. Michigan has been used to putting out dominating O-Lines every year and IMO those days are gone.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

MTown!
You made my point!
All 3 OL that OSU got last year came in with Pryor, knowing full well OSU was going to run the spread!
So again, if RR fails to convince O-Linemen to attend UM it's 100% on him, not the offense he's running.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

First off, let me give Utah credit for a game well executed on their part. They are a great team and I wish them all the best for a productive season.

Now on to the Wolverines, Michigan made too many mistakes and truth be told, they were outplayed by a better team. But I'm not going to weep and wail over one loss.

There is still a lot of football left to be played and anyone who knows me can attest that I will be true to the maize and blue if not anyone else.

Go Blue!

[warren1st]

But the program is not going to have the reputation nationally that Michigan supporters are going to want it to have. He doesn't run a squeaky clean program.

Please explain.


He already has gotten rid of several traditions and has shown that he really doesn't understand a lot more of them.

I'm huge on tradition. That's why I admire Massillon. WHAT has RR done away with other than the TV show "Michigan Replay?"AT has RR done away with other than the TV show "Michigan Replay?"




If he is another Coop, it won't take UM 13 years to get rid of him.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

warren1st,

MTown better worry about the one man who might seriously threaten Chris Wells run to the Heisman......USC quarterback Mark Sanchez. He sent a message with his lethal precision in a 52-7 thrashing of Virginia.

[CarlE]

First off, let me give Utah credit for a game well executed on their part. They are a great team and I wish them all the best for a productive season.

Now on to the Wolverines, Michigan made too many mistakes and truth be told, they were outplayed by a better team. But I'm not going to weep and wail over one loss.

There is still a lot of football left to be played and anyone who knows me can attest that I will be true to the maize and blue if not anyone else.

Go Blue!

Utah is now a GREAT team? Come now, Pittsburg Playboy. That's reaching even for YOU, my friend.

[MTown]

If he is another Coop, it won't take UM 13 years to get rid of him.

I'll explain....

Even though folks disliked Carr, you could not say that he didn't run a clean and respectable program. He was an honest guy, cared about his players, and during his time there, Michigan never had any instance of impropriety.

You cannot say the same with Rodriguez. The guy already leveraged his alma mater with the Alabama job to get more money. Then, just a year later he skipped out on a $4mil buyout to come to Michigan. Are you happy that your school had to help pick up that tab? He also had a player bail on him that was a legacy in the Michigan program. Justin Boren was a good player for you guys and a lot of Michigan fans have been crucifying him for leaving because of "family values". True or untrue, does that make you feel good inside about the guy?

In terms of traditions, he's also changed the policy on the #1 jersey that wasn't reversed until the fans went nuts, and the policy of not naming permanent captains.

Again, the guy is going to bring Michigan back in a big way.....and he's going to win a lot of games....

But is he going to do it in a way that makes alums like you proud?

Part of what made the Cooper years so tough to deal with is that we didn't do it in a way that made Ohio State proud. We won a ton of games, but we couldn't beat Michigan and we had tons of problems with grades and off field incidents. Then came Tressel and this quote...

"I can assure you that you'll be proud of our young people in the classroom, in the community and especially in 310 days in Ann Arbor".

And that is why we love our guy. I just don't see it with RichRod.

[DE#53]

REALLY! No, I've never heard of Troy Smith, Gonzo, Ginn, Hall, Holmes and company! Lol

Wow, I must have been in a time warp!

FYI! They didn't run the "SPREAD", they used variations of it, and I assure you Troy Smith couldn't run the "spread", which is why he was a drop back passer that relied on his scrambling ability at times to get him out of trouble in Tressels offense.

Pryor was recruited by Tressel because of his ability to run the "spread", and was promissed by Tressel that at OSU the offense he would be running would resemble the exact offense Tim Tebow runs at UF! FACT!

But to think that Pryor and OSU are going to be the only team in the Big 10 that can execute it affectively, and win the big games with it, would be naive at best.

The point MADE was that UM runs it exclusively under RR, Illinois and others in the Big 10 have implemented it into their offenses, and it can only be a good thing for the entire Big 10 conference, and more importantly OSU.
Why? Because they'll see it every year in the last game, run by talented teams, and it will help for BCS games when they play teams that also run it!

But thanks for enlightening me about Pryor and the others at OSU! I would have never known :wall:

I never said they would be the only one to run it affectively. I said they would run it the best of the schools in the Big 10. And when Smith first started at O.S.U. he was still developing as a passer and ran a lot of option out of the gun with spread formations. I think it was the 2004 Michigan game Smith was the leading rusher for the Buckeyes in that game.

I think your splitting hairs when your getting smart about running variations of the spread and "the spread". The fact is that Tressel ran a lot of 4 and 5 wide, empty back fields with Smith.This made defenses have to make plays out in open space which is what the spread is designed to do. His play selection was for HIS QB's strengths which is what any good coach will do. Not follow a script of what the spread is.

[DE#53]

MTown!
You made my point!
All 3 OL that OSU got last year came in with Pryor, knowing full well OSU was going to run the spread!
So again, if RR fails to convince O-Linemen to attend UM it's 100% on him, not the offense he's running.
All three of those lineman committed before Pryor gave his verbal. They didn't know for sure if he was going to Columbus. They chose O.S.U. because of Tressel plain and simple.

[DE#53]

DE53!

I forgot to mention that OSU has the "real deal" proto-type" RB for the spread coming in next year. Jaamal Berry out of Miami, Fl. has commited to OSU, and he is a legit 4.31 40 guy that at 5'11 195 can run thru you, around you, and away from you!
OSU fans are gonna love this kid if he stays healthy!

MTown! I also forgot to mention that UF has Nick Alajajian OG from Naples, Fl. coming in next year. He's the #1 rated OG, as well as #1 rated O-Lineman in the country according to several recruiting sources.
Again, if RR can't recruit some of the best OL to play at UM it's his fault!
Yeah I heard about him committing a few days ago. They say he's a short strider and doesn't have break away skills but will lower the boom and can burst for 20-30 yard gains.

[DE#53]

DE#53. I suspect you don't want to head down this path with TwbT. He knows just a LITTLE bit about football!! LOL.

So do I. I've coach in Massillon for 8 years.

[CarlE]

So do I. I've coach in Massillon for 8 years.

GREAT. Kick some behind on Friday night coach!!!

[jheitgerjr]

OSU fans don"t talk about Michigan fans' grammer, there are some people from OSU that can't even pass basket weaving. :rockon:

[TigerswillbeTigers]

DE#53
Not splitting hairs but, the offense T. Smith ran is nothing like the "spread" being run at Oregon, Florida, West Va., Michigan and many others. Putting 4-5 WR's on the field with an empty backfield doesn't have anything to do with the sophisticated nature of the spread these teams run. In many cases there's 2 RB's on the field and deception is the key component! Not only do they rely on their RB's, but the QB is required to use his feet as much and sometines more, then his arm in a game! Even the spread Shepas ran was limited to multiple WR's and a RB mostly running the stretch play. You didn't see Martin carrying the ball 20-25 times a game at the QB position, and it certainly wasn't in the plans for T. Smith do it at OSU either.
I agree that the 3 O-linemen chose OSU prior to Pryor, and mostly because of Tressel, but those 3 linemen were also somewhat responsible for convincing Pryor to attend OSU, and they knew he was being told by Tressel that he was going to run the spread, just like Tebow and UF runs. Pryor had the OSU players in his ear daily during the Army all star game, and to this day RR and UM give them all the credit for getting him to OSU! Lol
To the point MTown was making, those 3 linemen could have De-committed and chose another school if they thought Tressel was serious about running the spread with Pryor, and thought it would limit their chances of playing in the NFL but they didn't.

Regarding Jaamal Berry, I don't know who "they" are, but "They" must be thinking of another Berry. I've had the pleasure of watching him live, and believe me, the folks you're referencing couldn't have. This Berry definately isn't a "short strider", doesn't have a problem "breaking away", and certainly has more than a 20-30 yard "burst"! HE RUNS A LEGIT 4.31 40! As in 40yards, not 20-30!

I've enjoyed discussing all of this with you, and if you're still coaching, good luck with your team :thumbsup:

[CarlE]

OSU fans don"t talk about Michigan fans' grammer, there are some people from OSU that can't even pass basket weaving. :rockon:

Yeah, but they can spell grammar, Sparky. Now, back to our regularly scheduled broadcast. :rolleyes:

[monte81]

TWBT---- I agree that UM will be Natrional power as early as next year. RR always struggles is 1st year as a coach because he has to revamp the whole offense to fit his sceme. Look at the recruits in the 09 class and you see 2 spread 4/5 star QB's and some Nationally ranked olinemen we also run the spread in HS. The recruits(freshman) on the field right now, McDuffie,Shaw, etc,... will only get better.

OSU fans should be worried about next Saturday instead of what UM is doing. USC may just alittle to fast on offense for the bucks IMHO. However, I am routing for OSU

[DE#53]

GREAT. Kick some behind on Friday night coach!!!
Sorry if I misled you. I did coach for 8 seasons at both Longfellow and L.A.(QB's and DE's) I know it's just jr. High but we did run the same formations and plays as the varsity. The biggest challenge as a coach as far as x and o's was scouting for the varsity. Many times we only had 3-4 coaches scouting an upcoming opponent and each coach had a unit to watch i.e. defensive front or offensive line or backfield. One guy would write down what the down and distance, formation, lineup of defensive front, (D-tackle in a 1,3,or 5 technique).We had to do this with each and every play. Then the following morning we had to meet with the varsity staff and present our scout report and answer any questions from the staff. The guy doing the writing never got to see the game! His head was always down writing what these other 3 knuckleheads are yelling at him.

Anyway, I played at Massillon and some college ball and also coached jr. high ball from about '96 to '04. It's a blast working with the kids and watching them learn and excel. I'll never be a head coach anywhere but I think I have a good knowledge of the game and enjoy talking x and o's with people who love the game.

[monte81]

Let's talk offensive scemes for the spread and how to stop it---TWBT, DE#53, Tigercoach, etc,...

The tigers have problems stopping it in HS, OSU, UM, and other top DI BCS programs cant stop consistantly so it works,.....WHY??? And why can't most defensive scemes contain it?

[DE#53]

DE#53
Not splitting hairs but, the offense T. Smith ran is nothing like the "spread" being run at Oregon, Florida, West Va., Michigan and many others. Putting 4-5 WR's on the field with an empty backfield doesn't have anything to do with the sophisticated nature of the spread these teams run. In many cases there's 2 RB's on the field and deception is the key component! Not only do they rely on their RB's, but the QB is required to use his feet as much and sometines more, then his arm in a game! Even the spread Shepas ran was limited to multiple WR's and a RB mostly running the stretch play. You didn't see Martin carrying the ball 20-25 times a game at the QB position, and it certainly wasn't in the plans for T. Smith do it at OSU either.
I agree that the 3 O-linemen chose OSU prior to Pryor, and mostly because of Tressel, but those 3 linemen were also somewhat responsible for convincing Pryor to attend OSU, and they knew he was being told by Tressel that he was going to run the spread, just like Tebow and UF runs. Pryor had the OSU players in his ear daily during the Army all star game, and to this day RR and UM give them all the credit for getting him to OSU! Lol
To the point MTown was making, those 3 linemen could have De-committed and chose another school if they thought Tressel was serious about running the spread with Pryor, and thought it would limit their chances of playing in the NFL but they didn't.

Regarding Jaamal Berry, I don't know who "they" are, but "They" must be thinking of another Berry. I've had the pleasure of watching him live, and believe me, the folks you're referencing couldn't have. This Berry definately isn't a "short strider", doesn't have a problem "breaking away", and certainly has more than a 20-30 yard "burst"! HE RUNS A LEGIT 4.31 40! As in 40yards, not 20-30!

I've enjoyed discussing all of this with you, and if you're still coaching, good luck with your team :thumbsup:

Not so sure about what the 3 o-line prospects were thinking. Brewster was one of the first 3 to commit in this class and I wouldn't think Tressel knew what offense he was running or who was going to be the QB that early in the recruiting season. Anyway that's not that important. I'm just glad he got them.

It does sound crazy that a kid with 4.3 speed wouldn't have break away speed but that's exactly what I read about him on Bucknuts.com just a few days ago. They said he doesn't like to run around people and that he likes to lower his shoulder. Also said he was a short strider but is a nice cut back runner or slasher. Curious, where did you get to see him live?

[DE#53]

Let's talk offensive scemes for the spread and how to stop it---TWBT, DE#53, Tigercoach, etc,...

The tigers have problems stopping it in HS, OSU, UM, and other top DI BCS programs cant stop consistantly so it works,.....WHY??? And why can't most defensive scemes contain it?

The biggest problem I see is that when you have 8 men back to cover 4-5 WR plus any running backs leaking out into the flats or over the middle you can't get pressure on the QB.

It's a very tough decision to make. Either sit back and try to cover or send 5 or 6 after the QB and risk getting toasted. I think if you can get a big push up inside over either A gaps you force the QB to roll out one way or another and this cuts the field in half. That would help the defensive backfield by cutting down the amount of area you have to cover. But you must keep contain and not allow the QB to turn the corner if he wants to run.

Also if you only have 3 down lineman and the QB is in the gun, you problably only have 3 or 4 defenders within 7 yards of the ball. If they run play action off of this ( fake lateral hand off to RB) all defenders with pass coverage responsibilities are back peddling a few yards deeper and now if the QB wants to run there should be plenty of room. Once the 3 D-linemen work up field it will create natural creases for the QB to run thru.

I guess you could try to run a 3-3-5 and make the front 5 or six control lanes and defend their gaps and wait for the runner to commit and let it come to them and make a play. I think a lot of the spread offense takes advantage of overplaying defenses. Kind of like running trap plays vs. Mck! Ha!

[Drbord]

What did the Michigan defense do last year to beat Florida?

[TigerswillbeTigers]

I'll take the bait! NOTHING! They out scored them. Because Lloyd was a lame duck, and the O-coordinator was able to open up the play book! Mario Manningham ran about as many reverses in that game as he did in his entire career, and Henne was allowed to throw the ball all over the field.

[Tiger 1]

I agree with DE 53. Pressure up the middle is a must against the spread. It's especially difficult to defend in high school because the majority of high school defenders are not good at covering and tackling in space. 5 yard hitches turn into 20 yard gains due to poor tackling. At the high school level I would bring pressure on the QB as much as possible. The higher the level of football the better the DB's become. The Tigers were dinked and dunked to death last Sat. due to soft coverage and very little pressure on the QB. While I think our LB's are good players, they are not good blitzers. Too many times on Sat. our LB's blitzed up the middle right into piles of people. You have to have a knack for blitzing. Find the crease and get through it. Sometimes delayed blitzes from LB's are effective against the spread. Anyway, that's my 2 cents from an old lower level coach. I love talking X's and O's.

[TigerswillbeTigers]

DE#53

I had the opportunity to see Jaamal play two games last year. As you may or may not know, he plays for Miami Palmetto Senior, which is in the hot bed of HS football here in south florida. They play the likes of Southridge, last years national champs Northwestern and other perrenial national powers from the area on a pretty regular basis.
I recognized your account of Jaamal as profiled by scouts.com when you first posted it. Although I will absolutely defer to the folks at scout.com in their ability to analyze talent, I honestly didn't see what they saw.
If anything, the "short-strider" analogy must have come from the fact that when Jaamal is in contact with a defender he actually chops his steps, much like Herschel Walker used to do. But when he's running freely and eluding defenders he has a great ability to make people miss, and he lengthens out his stride like the sprinter he is. I assure you he can take it to the house, at any level.

[DE#53]

DE#53

I had the opportunity to see Jaamal play two games last year. As you may or may not know, he plays for Miami Palmetto Senior, which is in the hot bed of HS football here in south florida. They play the likes of Southridge, last years national champs Northwestern and other perrenial national powers from the area on a pretty regular basis.
I recognized your account of Jaamal as profiled by scouts.com when you first posted it. Although I will absolutely defer to the folks at scout.com in their ability to analyze talent, I honestly didn't see what they saw.
If anything, the "short-strider" analogy must have come from the fact that when Jaamal is in contact with a defender he actually chops his steps, much like Herschel Walker used to do. But when he's running freely and eluding defenders he has a great ability to make people miss, and he lengthens out his stride like the sprinter he is. I assure you he can take it to the house, at any level.

Sounds great! Can't wait to see him in Scarlet and Gray. Who would you compare him to? Like what type of runner?