Any Michigan Football fans going to the Herbie game?

[hexumjunkie]

Since Michigan plays at 330 a few of you might not want to miss the game to tailgate but i got a solution let me know if your heading over.....

[warren1st]

I'm going straight from Warren to Ann Arbor to see the first major coaching change since 1969.

[Al.]

I'm going straight from Warren to Ann Arbor to see the first major coaching change since 1969.


Don't get too excited or you may be in for a major disappointment. :sour:

[DE#53]

I'm going straight from Warren to Ann Arbor to see the first major coaching change since 1969.
It's north till you smell it. West till you step in it.

[sidelinewalker]

From LLLLLLoyd Carr To DDDDDD---Rod !!!!!! Michigan still sucks!!!!!!!!!!

[warren1st]

From LLLLLLoyd Carr To DDDDDD---Rod !!!!!! Michigan still sucks!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, right!

FYI: University of Michigan Wolverines



Most all-time wins - 869

Highest all-time winning percentage - .745

Most winning seasons - 110

Michigan has won or shared 42 Big 10 Conference Championships

Most undefeated seasons - 25

Largest scoring delta in college football history

Highest all-time strength of schedule rating

One of only 3 schools with a winning record against every Div 1-A

Conference

1901 team is the only undefeated, untied, and unscored-upon team

to also win the Rose Bowl without being scored upon

Highest NCAA home attendance every year since 1974 except 1997

Largest NCAA crowd for the UM-OSU 2003 game – 112,118

Longest current streak of over 100,000 in attendance -208

Most televised school in college football history -382

Longest current streak of non-losing seasons – 40 seasons

1968-present

Longest current streak of bowl games – 33 seasons

Longest current streak of Div-1A games since being shutout – 287 games

Nine game winning streak against Penn St.

Best helmet in football by ESPN’s “End of Century” Special

Best uniform in sports – ESPN2 64 Team Bracket Results

“The Victors” is one of a few fight songs in Hall of Fame

The #1 Rivalry in sports – Michigan vs. Ohio State according to ESPN’s

“10 Greatest Sports Rivalries” (Thanks Bucks!!)

[sidelinewalker]

Current records:LOST 6 OUT OF THE LAST SEVEN GAMES TO OHIO STATE!!!!!
(SOON TO BE 7 OUT OF 8)
FIRST RANKED DIV.1 SCHOOL TO BE BEATEN BY A DIV.1AA
SCHOOL SINCE DIV. 1 WAS SPLIT INTO 2 SUBDIVISIONS
IN 1978! Remember: YOU CAN'T SPELL SCUM WITHOUT "UM
GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SternRulz]

Yeah, right!

FYI: University of Michigan Wolverines



Most all-time wins - 869

Highest all-time winning percentage - .745

Most winning seasons - 110

Michigan has won or shared 42 Big 10 Conference Championships

Most undefeated seasons - 25

Largest scoring delta in college football history

Highest all-time strength of schedule rating

One of only 3 schools with a winning record against every Div 1-A

Conference

1901 team is the only undefeated, untied, and unscored-upon team

to also win the Rose Bowl without being scored upon

Highest NCAA home attendance every year since 1974 except 1997

Largest NCAA crowd for the UM-OSU 2003 game – 112,118

Longest current streak of over 100,000 in attendance -208

Most televised school in college football history -382

Longest current streak of non-losing seasons – 40 seasons

1968-present

Longest current streak of bowl games – 33 seasons

Longest current streak of Div-1A games since being shutout – 287 games

Nine game winning streak against Penn St.

Best helmet in football by ESPN’s “End of Century” Special

Best uniform in sports – ESPN2 64 Team Bracket Results

“The Victors” is one of a few fight songs in Hall of Fame

The #1 Rivalry in sports – Michigan vs. Ohio State according to ESPN’s

“10 Greatest Sports Rivalries” (Thanks Bucks!!)

What's your point?


:poke:

[warren1st]

What's your point?


:poke:

Uh....it was mentioned by sidelinewalker that Michigan STILL sucks. You might try reading the entire thread.

[warren1st]

Remember: YOU CAN'T SPELL SCUM WITHOUT "UM
GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Impressive. You might want to read the thread, "Half the nation hates the Buck?" You may fit right in.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

sidelinewalker and SternRulz,

I was at this summer's car show and do you know how many times I heard that song "we don't give a ---- for the whole state of Michigan, we're from Ohio?" Too much I think.

You all just don't get enough, do you? That was SO out of whack just hearing that dog gone song. I swear more than anything (there should have been a Michigan car at the car show)......

[warren1st]

sidelinewalker and SternRulz,


You all just don't get enough, do you?

MUC - I was talking to a good friend last night who is a Michigan Law School grad and he mentioned that people who are normally kind and good-natured just become ugly when it comes to OSU Football. It's a very odd phenomenon. Honestly, I don't understand the hatred toward UM.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Warren1st,

I don't mind being the hated adversary...it makes discussions on here all the more tantalizing.

Whether it be Kamd50 yelling at me, MTown torching me, longtimefirsttime lashing me, or whatever...it makes discussions very lively when it comes to UM/OSU.

You went through it in 2002 as a fan of the #1 Warren Harding High School Raiders and as a fan of the Wolverines. I go through it being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Wolverines.

I will be watching Michigan-Utah Saturday afternoon. GO MAIZE AND BLUE!

P.S. I can tell you this. As much as I have been yelled, torched, or lashed out at, etc., I never have a reason to snap back or yell at my tormentors :love:! And when I do get the above treatment, I take the advice of my mother and "have a good time!"

[Kamd50]

Warren1st,

I don't mind being the hated adversary...it makes discussions on here all the more tantalizing.

Whether it be Kamd50 yelling at me, MTown torching me, longtimefirsttime lashing me, or whatever...it makes discussions very lively when it comes to UM/OSU.

You went through it in 2002 as a fan of the #1 Warren Harding High School Raiders and as a fan of the Wolverines. I go through it being a fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Wolverines.

I will be watching Michigan-Utah Saturday afternoon. GO MAIZE AND BLUE!

P.S. I can tell you this. As much as I have been yelled, torched, or lashed out at, etc., I never have a reason to snap back or yell at my tormentors :love:! And when I do get the above treatment, I take the advice of my mother and "have a good time!"

And that's why I gotta give Keno a tip of the hat:wink:

[CarlE]

And that's why I gotta give Keno a tip of the hat:wink:

I'm going to give him a tip of my shoe. Where the sun doesn't shine!!! Teasing Pittsburg Playboy. Just teasing.

[sidelinewalker]

Keno,You said you have been lashed out at for being a Steelers fan,A Fishigan fan,you didn't even say that you are a Canton Mckinley graduate,and you know what Keno? We still love you! Warren first,If you think Ohio State fans are the only Football fans that hate the Michigan Weasels,you are living in a dream world! Do I really hate Michigan? HELL YES I DO! GO BUCKS-SCREW THE BLUE!
OH YES,AND BY THE WAY.I REALLY DON'T CARE A HELL OF A LOT FOR WARREN EITHER!
GO TIGERS !!!!!!!!!!!

[warren1st]

You just continue to make my point about Buckeye football fans............Let me ask you just one question: Why??? Did you learn this from your friends? Was it was because UM went 10-2-1 before Tressel? Is it because of Michigan's academic superiority? Is there a slight inferiority complex? I'm not trying to be a smart a$$. I'd really like to know.

Warren Harding. Why the dislike for them, too?

[hartville tiger]

I'm going straight from Warren to Ann Arbor to see the first major coaching change since 1969.

I wish I could be in ann arbor with you. Michigan will surprise a lot of people this year If they could take those damm mac teams off of their schedule and play their 1997 schedule where their was only one weak nonconference game baylor.

[warren1st]

I wish I could be in ann arbor with you. Michigan will surprise a lot of people this year If they could take those damm mac teams off of their schedule and play their 1997 schedule where their was only one weak nonconference game baylor.

Totally agree along with ALL B10 teams doing the same!!!

[DE#53]

You just continue to make my point about Buckeye football fans............Let me ask you just one question: Why??? Did you learn this from your friends? Was it was because UM went 10-2-1 before Tressel? Is it because of Michigan's academic superiority? Is there a slight inferiority complex? I'm not trying to be a smart a$$. I'd really like to know.

Warren Harding. Why the dislike for them, too?
You live in OHIO and are on a pro-Ohio website. What kind of responses do you think your going to get? O.K. you want answers why right?

For the same reasons young boys who grow up in Massillon and want to be a Tiger some day. They hate Mck. When we were young and if Massillon lost to McK it was like the world was going to end. I remember leaving the 81' game at the Spigot and crying and telling my dad that when I got my chance to play in "the game" we would never loose. And in 1988 we didn't. There weren't many days that went by between 81' and 88' that I didn't think about that. You actually live for that day. It's part of your life. You hear the stories of all the past games and it builds and builds. Anyway I'm getting off the subject. It's personal I guess. That's how I look at the game of football. That's how I was coached to approach the game. The man over you is trying to BEAT you. 11 players with individual battles every play and the sense of urgency on every snap. That's how you treat your rival. Now with Michigan you multiply that by 1,000! In the movie Patton he says "the very thought of loosing is hateful". That's what the two greatest rivalries are about.

[big earn]

GO UTAH!!!!!!

[warren1st]

You live in OHIO and are on a pro-Ohio website. What kind of responses do you think your going to get? O.K. you want answers why right?

For the same reasons young boys who grow up in Massillon and want to be a Tiger some day. They hate Mck. When we were young and if Massillon lost to McK it was like the world was going to end. I remember leaving the 81' game at the Spigot and crying and telling my dad that when I got my chance to play in "the game" we would never loose. And in 1988 we didn't. There weren't many days that went by between 81' and 88' that I didn't think about that. You actually live for that day. It's part of your life. You hear the stories of all the past games and it builds and builds. Anyway I'm getting off the subject. It's personal I guess. That's how I look at the game of football. That's how I was coached to approach the game. The man over you is trying to BEAT you. 11 players with individual battles every play and the sense of urgency on every snap. That's how you treat your rival. Now with Michigan you multiply that by 1,000! In the movie Patton he says "the very thought of loosing is hateful". That's what the two greatest rivalries are about.

I want to beat my rival as much as anybody does. I want to beat OSU with every fiber of my body; however, I don't hate anybody. I kinda suspect Woody has had a lot to do with this anti-Michigan feeling. Further, If UM didn't kick your butts so many times, you wouldn't have such strong feelings toward them! Right?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Warren1st,

Warren Harding was disliked primarily by one school...Lakewood St. Edward going back to an incident that should have never happened. From then on, the two schools haven't played each other since a playoff game several years ago.

People fail to realize though from a stretch in 2001-2004, Warren Harding had the best fans and team in Northeast Ohio along with the #1 toughest stadium...Mollenkopf Stadium.

[obie7661]

...People fail to realize though from a stretch in 2001-2004, Warren Harding had the best fans and team in Northeast Ohio along with the #1 toughest stadium...Mollenkopf Stadium.

Warren fans were better than Tiger fans?

[DE#53]

I want to beat my rival as much as anybody does. I want to beat OSU with every fiber of my body; however, I don't hate anybody. I kinda suspect Woody has had a lot to do with this anti-Michigan feeling. Further, If UM didn't kick your butts so many times, you wouldn't have such strong feelings toward them! Right?
I don't know about the "so many times" part. The thing that always bothered me was Ohio kids going up north and beating the Bucks. Your right about woody. Ever read his books? Some crazy stories about how felt about "that school up north". Check out the Dead Schembechlers website sometime.

[DE#53]

Warren1st,

Warren Harding was disliked primarily by one school...Lakewood St. Edward going back to an incident that should have never happened. From then on, the two schools haven't played each other since a playoff game several years ago.

People fail to realize though from a stretch in 2001-2004, Warren Harding had the best fans and team in Northeast Ohio along with the #1 toughest stadium...Mollenkopf Stadium.
So the fans are the best only when they are winning? Get ready here comes to band wagon!

A lot of Massillon folks have no love lost for Warren too. I had the misfortune of playing against them in 88' at Mollenkopf and we got robbed by some shady officiating. Phantom pass interference calls on the last drive and they tried a QB sneak from the 1 yrd. line with 50 seconds to go on 4th down. We came up from the pile with the ball the official took the ball out of T.R. Rivera's hands, gave it to their QB then signaled TD. I still remember coach Owen running clear down into the end zone and screaming at the refs. He later said Massillon would never play Warren again as long as he was coaching at Massillon. My parents said after the game Warren fans were coming up to them and saying sorry for the bad officiating. I think we lost 21-19. Crazy place to play a game.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

DE #53,

Do you know how many teams lost at Mollenkopf Stadium from 2001-04? People don't have to care about Warren Harding High School if they don't want to but for three straight years, the Raiders were #1 in Ohio, #1 in the midwest region, possessed superior depth at all positions, and they scored FIRST in every home game but one!

But anyway, I'll be devoted to my TV at 3:30 to see the Rich Rod Rodriguez era begin at the University of Michigan! Hail to the victors!!!!!!

[DE#53]

DE #53,

Do you know how many teams lost at Mollenkopf Stadium from 2001-04? People don't have to care about Warren Harding High School if they don't want to but for three straight years, the Raiders were #1 in Ohio, #1 in the midwest region, possessed superior depth at all positions, and they scored FIRST in every home game but one!

But anyway, I'll be devoted to my TV at 3:30 to see the Rich Rod Rodriguez era begin at the University of Michigan! Hail to the victors!!!!!!
Had to be a disappointing debut.

[DE#53]

[QUOTE=MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp;118099]DE #53,

Do you know how many teams lost at Mollenkopf Stadium from 2001-04? People don't have to care about Warren Harding High School if they don't want to but for three straight years, the Raiders were #1 in Ohio, #1 in the midwest region, possessed superior depth at all positions, and they scored FIRST in every home game but one!

But anyway, I'll be devoted to my TV at 3:30 to see the Rich Rod Rodriguez era begin at the University of Michigan! Hail to the victors!!!!!![/QUOTE

They had a good coach at the time. And Clarett was tough. But being number 1 at the end of the season is what matters.

[warren1st]

[QUOTE=MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp;118099]DE #53,

Do you know how many teams lost at Mollenkopf Stadium from 2001-04? People don't have to care about Warren Harding High School if they don't want to but for three straight years, the Raiders were #1 in Ohio, #1 in the midwest region, possessed superior depth at all positions, and they scored FIRST in every home game but one!

But anyway, I'll be devoted to my TV at 3:30 to see the Rich Rod Rodriguez era begin at the University of Michigan! Hail to the victors!!!!!![/QUOTE

They had a good coach at the time. And Clarett was tough. But being number 1 at the end of the season is what matters.

Can't argue with that. WGH should have had at least one SC in those years.

[CarlE]

I wish I could be in ann arbor with you. Michigan will surprise a lot of people this year If they could take those damm mac teams off of their schedule and play their 1997 schedule where their was only one weak nonconference game baylor.

No surprises so far!!! LOL.

[CarlE]

But anyway, I'll be devoted to my TV at 3:30 to see the Rich Rod Rodriguez era begin at the University of Michigan! Hail to the victors!!!!!!

How did the debut of the Crook's era go for you there, Keno?

[sidelinewalker]

Warren 1st,After reading your answer to my last post,I had to stop and think,"do I really "hate" Michigan? I do know a have a couple really close friends who are Michigan fans.Do I really hate them? No! In fact, I even have a couple friends who played football for the Woverines.Do I Hate them? No? I have even been to a few Ohio State-Michigan games in Ann Arbor and tailgated with a great bunch of Michigan fans. Do I hate them? Hell no, had a great time. Was it because Michigan was 10-2-1 before Tressel? "Hell" no! I don't know about you, but I didn't see my first Ohio State-Michigan game until 1951 with my father,and if you check, the series has been very close since then.In fact if you care to check,I believe the Buckeyes have a 30-26 advantage since I have been watching "The Game". Do I have an inferiority complex? After reading some of your post, I definitely know this can't be the reason.So I guess ,after thinking about this for a while, I have come to this conclusion.I Really don't "hate' Michigan,and I certainly don't hate "all" Michigan fans,just the antagonistic ones who come on a primarily Ohio site and spread their Michigan crap. Oh yes one last thing,do I hate "all" Warren fans,hell no,but remember this is "MASSILLON PROUD" not Warren proud!!!!!!!

[CarlE]

Warren 1st,After reading your answer to my last post,I had to stop and think,"do I really "hate" Michigan? I do know a have a couple really close friends who are Michigan fans.Do I really hate them? No! In fact, I even have a couple friends who played football for the Woverines.Do I Hate them? No? I have even been to a few Ohio State-Michigan games in Ann Arbor and tailgated with a great bunch of Michigan fans. Do I hate them? Hell no, had a great time. Was it because Michigan was 10-2-1 before Tressel? "Hell" no! I don't know about you, but I didn't see my first Ohio State-Michigan game until 1951 with my father,and if you check, the series has been very close since then.In fact if you care to check,I believe the Buckeyes have a 30-26 advantage since I have been watching "The Game". Do I have an inferiority complex? After reading some of your post, I definitely know this can't be the reason.So I guess ,after thinking about this for a while, I have come to this conclusion.I Really don't "hate' Michigan,and I certainly don't hate "all" Michigan fans,just the antagonistic ones who come on a primarily Ohio site and spread their Michigan crap. Oh yes one last thing,do I hate "all" Warren fans,hell no,but remember this is "MASSILLON PROUD" not Warren proud!!!!!!!

One of my best friends here in the complex is a Michigan grad. Do I hate him? DAMN RIGHT I DO. LOL. Teasing. Of course nobody hates somebody just because they are from Michigan or are a Michigan fan. Let's cut the dang dramatics, OK?

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

[QUOTE=MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp;118099]DE #53,

Do you know how many teams lost at Mollenkopf Stadium from 2001-04? People don't have to care about Warren Harding High School if they don't want to but for three straight years, the Raiders were #1 in Ohio, #1 in the midwest region, possessed superior depth at all positions, and they scored FIRST in every home game but one!

But anyway, I'll be devoted to my TV at 3:30 to see the Rich Rod Rodriguez era begin at the University of Michigan! Hail to the victors!!!!!![/QUOTE

They had a good coach at the time. And Clarett was tough. But being number 1 at the end of the season is what matters.

DE#53,

Why don't I tell you that Thom McDaniels was UNDEFEATED whenever he had a lead going into the fourth quarter as Harding's kingpin. He never lost in seven years as the head coach of the Raiders when he led after three quarters.

By the way, you know Raiders fans were the most respected during that run. And I have been around Harding fans and have nothing but praise for them for the way they conduct themselves around each other and fans of other schools.

[MTown]

Of course nobody hates somebody just because they are from Michigan or are a Michigan fan. Let's cut the dang dramatics, OK?

Keno is a McKinley Grad, Michigan fan, and Pittsburgh fan. He really, really, really, really, tests that statement. Even moreso when I hear things like "Mario Manningham ran a 3.9 in the 40 yard dash". Or that Mike Silverthorn (Mck's D coordinator on their '97 team) is a defensive genius.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

MTown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tee, hee, hee! You just had to get that dig in there, didn't you! You'll hear more from me next week...after Pittsburgh destroys Beyonce's hometown and then we'll come for Steve Harvey's hometown.........

[Kamd50]

Keno is a McKinley Grad, Michigan fan, and Pittsburgh fan. He really, really, really, really, tests that statement. Even moreso when I hear things like "Mario Manningham ran a 3.9 in the 40 yard dash". Or that Mike Silverthorn (Mck's D coordinator on their '97 team) is a defensive genius.

Cause for much much aggravation and annoyance? Yes. Cause for hatred? No. Hate should be reserved for the likes of evil, like Osama bin Laden.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

Kamd50,

People can hate me and it wouldn't hurt my heart and soul one bit.

[Kamd50]

Kamd50,

People can hate me and it wouldn't hurt my heart and soul one bit.

I admire your outlook, Keno, even if your choice of favorite teams is beyond comprehension to most of us Ohioans. Wait, you're a Mckinley grad, no further explanation necessary:jestera:

[CarlE]

I hate people smarter than me like TigerswillbeTigers and Indiana95. Well, not hate. I'm just jealous. And how ANYBODY that has ever met Keno "The Pittsburg Playboy" could possibly hate him is beyond comprehension to me. The boy is a freaking CLASSIC.

Keno, I was at the Rays/Yankees game Thursday night when you called. Call back today sometime. I'll be able to talk.

[MUCSteelers5xSuperChamp]

By the way, MICHIGAN defeated Miami of Ohio 16-6! Bring on Notre Dame!